Greetings,

Recently I've been spending my time in the land of SuperCollider3 :

    
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/super-collision-studio-dave-new-world-supercollider3-part-1

    
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/super-collision-studio-dave-new-world-supercollider3-part-2

    
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/super-collision-studio-dave-new-world-supercollider3-part-3

Complete with book review :

    http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/supercollider-book-review

I'm posting this announcement here because of comments I read here 
regarding the difficulties of learning SC3. I'd like to know whether 
this series of articles is enlightening/helpful enough for beginners 
and/or users coming from other domain-related languages, e.g. Csound or 
RTCmix. Comments are welcome, of course, though I warn readers that the 
content and presentation is rather basic (it's meant to be so).

Best,

dp



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Thanks for sharing Dave. They look very nice.

I got the book a while ago and was a little disappointed by the
authors' approach. There is a lot about designing intelligent systems
and the general structure of the language but for instance no chapter
on spectral processing. It seems to follow a clear musical approach
that unfortunately doesn't match mine! In fact if you know of any FFT
tutorials that go beyond the standard spectral ugens then I'd be very
interested to know (I'm thinking bin-by-bin operations).

Best,

Peiman

On 6 September 2011 09:57, Dave Phillips  wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Recently I've been spending my time in the land of SuperCollider3 :
>
>
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/super-collision-studio-dave-new-world-supercollider3-part-1
>
>
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/super-collision-studio-dave-new-world-supercollider3-part-2
>
>
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/super-collision-studio-dave-new-world-supercollider3-part-3
>
> Complete with book review :
>
>   http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/supercollider-book-review
>
> I'm posting this announcement here because of comments I read here regarding
> the difficulties of learning SC3. I'd like to know whether this series of
> articles is enlightening/helpful enough for beginners and/or users coming
> from other domain-related languages, e.g. Csound or RTCmix. Comments are
> welcome, of course, though I warn readers that the content and presentation
> is rather basic (it's meant to be so).
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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> csound"
>
>


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peiman khosravi wrote:
> Thanks for sharing Dave. They look very nice.
>
> I got the book a while ago and was a little disappointed by the
> authors' approach. There is a lot about designing intelligent systems
> and the general structure of the language but for instance no chapter
> on spectral processing. It seems to follow a clear musical approach
> that unfortunately doesn't match mine! In fact if you know of any FFT
> tutorials that go beyond the standard spectral ugens then I'd be very
> interested to know (I'm thinking bin-by-bin operations).
>
>   

Hi Peiman,

Your comment "It seems to follow a clear musical approach that 
unfortunately doesn't match mine!" is probably right on the mark for 
many people, especially those of us coming into SC from another audio 
programming language. However, I've found much in SC3 that appeals to 
some of my musical intentions, and I intend to master more of the 
language over the next year. IMO, it's definitely worth the effort. I 
have a little background in using an OOP system, so it's syntax isn't 
too threatening, and SC's audio quality is outstanding.

Btw, have you seen this tutorial by James Harkins :

    http://www.dewdrop-world.net/sc3/tutorials/index.php?id=8

Sorry, I'm not using SC3 for any heavy DSP yet (Csound is far more 
familiar for me in that direction). It's primary appeal for me is as a 
control system for programs by Hanns Holger Rutz (aka sciss) and as an 
environment for algorithmic composition.

Thanks for the reply, Peiman. I hope all things are going well for you 
these days.

Best,

dp






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Thanks for the link Dave. This looks interesting.

I should clarify that I didn't mean SC itself follows a certain
approach but rather the book. But you are right about SC being much
more efficient for algorithmic composition. And Csound would be too if
used with python but then the integration is not exactly out of the
box. And then there is the question of arrays that are so easily dealt
with in SC.

It would be really great to see a csound ugen at some point, similar
to the pd/max csound~ external.

Best,

Peiman


On 6 September 2011 11:37, Dave Phillips  wrote:
> peiman khosravi wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for sharing Dave. They look very nice.
>>
>> I got the book a while ago and was a little disappointed by the
>> authors' approach. There is a lot about designing intelligent systems
>> and the general structure of the language but for instance no chapter
>> on spectral processing. It seems to follow a clear musical approach
>> that unfortunately doesn't match mine! In fact if you know of any FFT
>> tutorials that go beyond the standard spectral ugens then I'd be very
>> interested to know (I'm thinking bin-by-bin operations).
>>
>>
>
> Hi Peiman,
>
> Your comment "It seems to follow a clear musical approach that unfortunately
> doesn't match mine!" is probably right on the mark for many people,
> especially those of us coming into SC from another audio programming
> language. However, I've found much in SC3 that appeals to some of my musical
> intentions, and I intend to master more of the language over the next year.
> IMO, it's definitely worth the effort. I have a little background in using
> an OOP system, so it's syntax isn't too threatening, and SC's audio quality
> is outstanding.
>
> Btw, have you seen this tutorial by James Harkins :
>
>   http://www.dewdrop-world.net/sc3/tutorials/index.php?id=8
>
> Sorry, I'm not using SC3 for any heavy DSP yet (Csound is far more familiar
> for me in that direction). It's primary appeal for me is as a control system
> for programs by Hanns Holger Rutz (aka sciss) and as an environment for
> algorithmic composition.
>
> Thanks for the reply, Peiman. I hope all things are going well for you these
> days.
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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> csound"
>
>


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> I'm posting this announcement here because of comments I read here regarding
> the difficulties of learning SC3.

My initial difficulties with SuperCollider stem from the fact that I
brought along my own preconceptions and was trying to impose my Csound
experience onto SC. Once I took Yoda's advice, "First you must unlearn
what you have learned," it was mostly smooth sailing.  :)

Jake