[Csnd] Question about lpanal

[Csnd] Question about lpanal

Date	2011-09-05 19:21
From	Jim Aikin
Subject	[Csnd] Question about lpanal
	I'm attempting to run lpanal on a five-second vocal sample, but the console output keeps telling me "sorry." The output looks like this: analysing 220714 sample frames (5.0 secs) Found only 20 poles...sorry wanted 34 poles I've tried various settings for lowest and highest frequencies, hop size, and so on. If I ask for 20 poles (-p), it turns around and tells me it found only 10 poles. Nothing that I've tried helps. There's an output .lp file, but it's only 1kb in size, which strongly suggests it contains nothing but the header -- and indeed, lpread doesn't seem to be able to use it. Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Thanks! --Jim Aikin -- View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Question-about-lpanal-tp4771412p4771412.html Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-09-05 19:27
From	peiman khosravi
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Question about lpanal
	This may not be the issue but make sure there are no silences in the file as lpanal doesn't like that. P On 5 September 2011 19:21, Jim Aikin wrote: > I'm attempting to run lpanal on a five-second vocal sample, but the console > output keeps telling me "sorry." The output looks like this: > > analysing 220714 sample frames (5.0 secs) > Found only 20 poles...sorry > wanted 34 poles > > I've tried various settings for lowest and highest frequencies, hop size, > and so on. If I ask for 20 poles (-p), it turns around and tells me it found > only 10 poles. Nothing that I've tried helps. There's an output .lp file, > but it's only 1kb in size, which strongly suggests it contains nothing but > the header -- and indeed, lpread doesn't seem to be able to use it. > > Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Thanks! > > --Jim Aikin > > -- > View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Question-about-lpanal-tp4771412p4771412.html > Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-09-05 19:42
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Question about lpanal
	Can you make your file available somewhere so I can test it? On 5 Sep 2011, at 19:21, Jim Aikin wrote: > I'm attempting to run lpanal on a five-second vocal sample, but the > console > output keeps telling me "sorry." The output looks like this: > > analysing 220714 sample frames (5.0 secs) > Found only 20 poles...sorry > wanted 34 poles > > I've tried various settings for lowest and highest frequencies, hop > size, > and so on. If I ask for 20 poles (-p), it turns around and tells me > it found > only 10 poles. Nothing that I've tried helps. There's an output .lp > file, > but it's only 1kb in size, which strongly suggests it contains > nothing but > the header -- and indeed, lpread doesn't seem to be able to use it. > > Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Thanks! > > --Jim Aikin > > -- > View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Question-about-lpanal-tp4771412p4771412.html > Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > "unsubscribe csound" > Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-09-05 19:47
From	Jim Aikin
Subject	[Csnd] Re: Question about lpanal
	> Can you make your file available somewhere so I can test it? Try this link, and let me know if it doesn't work: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18276384/she_didnt.wav. (It's a quote from the beginning of "The Bostonians," by Henry James.) -- View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Question-about-lpanal-tp4771412p4771511.html Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-09-05 19:48
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Question about lpanal
	I believe I fixed this (at least as far as I have tested), so you can have silences OK. On 5 Sep 2011, at 19:27, peiman khosravi wrote: > This may not be the issue but make sure there are no silences in the > file as lpanal doesn't like that. > > P > > On 5 September 2011 19:21, Jim Aikin wrote: >> I'm attempting to run lpanal on a five-second vocal sample, but the >> console >> output keeps telling me "sorry." The output looks like this: >> >> analysing 220714 sample frames (5.0 secs) >> Found only 20 poles...sorry >> wanted 34 poles >> >> I've tried various settings for lowest and highest frequencies, hop >> size, >> and so on. If I ask for 20 poles (-p), it turns around and tells me >> it found >> only 10 poles. Nothing that I've tried helps. There's an output .lp >> file, >> but it's only 1kb in size, which strongly suggests it contains >> nothing but >> the header -- and indeed, lpread doesn't seem to be able to use it. >> >> Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Thanks! >> >> --Jim Aikin >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Question-about-lpanal-tp4771412p4771412.html >> Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/? >> group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >> "unsubscribe csound" >> >> > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > "unsubscribe csound" > Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-09-05 19:57
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Re: Question about lpanal
	Thanks. lpanal appears to analyse it OK. source.wav is the local name for the file in the URL you gave me. coltrane:~ victor$ lpanal source.wav source.lpc PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound util lpanal: Using filter coefficient storage method audio sr = 44100, monaural opening WAV infile source.wav analysing 220714 sample frames (5.0 secs) 1103 lpc frames written to source.lpc This is OSX. What operating system are you trying this on? Victor On 5 Sep 2011, at 19:47, Jim Aikin wrote: >> Can you make your file available somewhere so I can test it? > > Try this link, and let me know if it doesn't work: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18276384/she_didnt.wav. (It's a quote from the > beginning of "The Bostonians," by Henry James.) > > -- > View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Question-about-lpanal-tp4771412p4771511.html > Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > "unsubscribe csound" > Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-09-05 20:23
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Re: Question about lpanal
	This is a lpreson resynthesis of the file. It's crude and low-quality, but at least it shows LPC works. https://rcpt.yousendit.com/1215238001/9c067012a1c7444caf5ac30e3850e067 Victor On 5 Sep 2011, at 19:57, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > Thanks. lpanal appears to analyse it OK. source.wav is the local > name for the file in the URL you gave me. > > coltrane:~ victor$ lpanal source.wav source.lpc > PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound > PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound > virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound > util lpanal: > Using filter coefficient storage method > audio sr = 44100, monaural > opening WAV infile source.wav > analysing 220714 sample frames (5.0 secs) > 1103 lpc frames written to source.lpc > > This is OSX. What operating system are you trying this on? > > Victor > > On 5 Sep 2011, at 19:47, Jim Aikin wrote: > >>> Can you make your file available somewhere so I can test it? >> >> Try this link, and let me know if it doesn't work: >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18276384/she_didnt.wav. (It's a quote from >> the >> beginning of "The Bostonians," by Henry James.) >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Question-about-lpanal-tp4771412p4771511.html >> Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >> "unsubscribe csound" >> > > Dr Victor Lazzarini > Senior Lecturer > Dept. of Music > NUI Maynooth Ireland > tel.: +353 1 708 3545 > Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie > > > > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > "unsubscribe csound" > Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-09-05 20:54
From	Jim Aikin
Subject	[Csnd] Re: Question about lpanal
	I'm in Win7 64-bit, using the Utilities panel in QuteCsound. I'm not sure what to test or change in order to try to track down the source of the problem. --JA -- View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Question-about-lpanal-tp4771412p4771826.html Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-09-05 21:03
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Re: Question about lpanal
	I guess it is a Windows version issue. Maybe Mike Gogins can check this? Victor On 5 Sep 2011, at 20:54, Jim Aikin wrote: > I'm in Win7 64-bit, using the Utilities panel in QuteCsound. I'm not > sure > what to test or change in order to try to track down the source of the > problem. > > --JA > > > -- > View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Question-about-lpanal-tp4771412p4771826.html > Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > "unsubscribe csound" > Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-09-05 21:09
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Re: Question about lpanal
	Ops, I had fixed lpanal in May I think. 5.13 was released in February. So I guess it could be that this is a bug that was there but it's not anymore. February? I never realised it's been so long. We need a 5.14 release! Victor On 5 Sep 2011, at 21:03, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > I guess it is a Windows version issue. Maybe Mike Gogins can check > this? > > Victor > On 5 Sep 2011, at 20:54, Jim Aikin wrote: > >> I'm in Win7 64-bit, using the Utilities panel in QuteCsound. I'm >> not sure >> what to test or change in order to try to track down the source of >> the >> problem. >> >> --JA >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Question-about-lpanal-tp4771412p4771826.html >> Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >> "unsubscribe csound" >> > > Dr Victor Lazzarini > Senior Lecturer > Dept. of Music > NUI Maynooth Ireland > tel.: +353 1 708 3545 > Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie > > > > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > "unsubscribe csound" > Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-09-06 00:02
From	peiman khosravi
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Re: Question about lpanal
	On 5 September 2011 21:09, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > Ops, I had fixed lpanal in May I think. 5.13 was released in February. So I > guess it could be that this is a bug that was there but it's not anymore. > February? I never realised it's been so long. We need a 5.14 release! > yes please!!! > Victor > On 5 Sep 2011, at 21:03, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > >> I guess it is a Windows version issue. Maybe Mike Gogins can check this? >> >> Victor >> On 5 Sep 2011, at 20:54, Jim Aikin wrote: >> >>> I'm in Win7 64-bit, using the Utilities panel in QuteCsound. I'm not sure >>> what to test or change in order to try to track down the source of the >>> problem. >>> >>> --JA >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Question-about-lpanal-tp4771412p4771826.html >>> Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>> csound" >>> >> >> Dr Victor Lazzarini >> Senior Lecturer >> Dept. of Music >> NUI Maynooth Ireland >> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >> >> >> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >> csound" >> > > Dr Victor Lazzarini > Senior Lecturer > Dept. of Music > NUI Maynooth Ireland > tel.: +353 1 708 3545 > Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie > > > > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe > csound" > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-09-06 14:12
From	jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk
Subject	Re: [Csnd] next releast was Question about lpanal
	> On 5 September 2011 21:09, Victor Lazzarini > wrote: >> Ops, I had fixed lpanal in May I think. 5.13 was released in February. >> So I >> guess it could be that this is a bug that was there but it's not >> anymore. >> February? I never realised it's been so long. We need a 5.14 release! >> > > yes please!!! > >> What needs to be done for the relese? I kjnow of one serious bug in the parder. Bugs seem to be getting fixed.... Discussion i develioper list I guess ==John Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-09-06 15:22
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Csnd] next releast was Question about lpanal
	Only a couple of outstanding bugs left I think. We need to finalise issues of 64bit OSX, but that should not delay the release necessarily. On 6 Sep 2011, at 14:12, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote: >> On 5 September 2011 21:09, Victor Lazzarini >> >> wrote: >>> Ops, I had fixed lpanal in May I think. 5.13 was released in >>> February. >>> So I >>> guess it could be that this is a bug that was there but it's not >>> anymore. >>> February? I never realised it's been so long. We need a 5.14 >>> release! >>> >> >> yes please!!! >> >>> > > What needs to be done for the relese? I kjnow of one serious bug in > the > parder. Bugs seem to be getting fixed.... > > Discussion i develioper list I guess > > ==John > > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > "unsubscribe csound" > Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"