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[Csnd] Paul Hindemith says hello

Date2009-06-22 12:06
FromDave Phillips
Subject[Csnd] Paul Hindemith says hello
Greetings,

Something to start the week. While reading from PH's A Composer's World 
this morning I discovered this passage:

"If there is anything remaining in this world that is on the one side 
basically aristocratic and individualistic and on the other side as 
brutal as the fights of wild animals, it is artistic creation. It is 
aristocratic, because it is the privilege of a very restricted number of 
people. If it could be democratized, it would lose its quality as an 
art, become reduced to a craft, and end as an industry. In many branches 
of our musical life we already have reached this lowest, industrial 
phase, as we let musical democracy have its unbridled way."

Prophetic or just dyspeptic ? Comments welcome...

Best,

dp

Date2009-06-22 12:24
FromRichard Dobson
Subject[Csnd] Re: Paul Hindemith says hello
I suggest it should be a topic for an issue of "Organised Sound". They 
love that sort of thing. The more discussions get limited to subsets of 
Western Art Music (thinking that's all there is) the more fun they can have!


But I will note we do seem already to have reduced everything to the 
question of its "economic value", as the primary determinant of 
government policy. And that in the UK we don't even have a Minister for 
the Arts any more. What we do have talks mostly about the Olympics, and 
the BBC charter.

Richard Dobson

Dave Phillips wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> Something to start the week. While reading from PH's A Composer's World 
> this morning I discovered this passage:
> 
> "If there is anything remaining in this world that is on the one side 
> basically aristocratic and individualistic and on the other side as 
> brutal as the fights of wild animals, it is artistic creation. It is 
> aristocratic, because it is the privilege of a very restricted number of 
> people. If it could be democratized, it would lose its quality as an 
> art, become reduced to a craft, and end as an industry. In many branches 
> of our musical life we already have reached this lowest, industrial 
> phase, as we let musical democracy have its unbridled way."
> 
> Prophetic or just dyspeptic ? Comments welcome...
> 
> Best,
> 
> dp
> 
> 
> 
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Date2009-06-22 12:33
FromSuper Pija
Subject[Csnd] Re: Paul Hindemith says hello<---must [OT] in the subject!!!!!
that email below must have [OT] in the subject!!!



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Subject: [Csnd] Paul Hindemith says hello

Greetings,

Something to start the week. While reading from PH's A Composer's World this morning I discovered this passage:

"If there is anything remaining in this world that is on the one side basically aristocratic and individualistic and on the other side as brutal as the fights of wild animals, it is artistic creation. It is aristocratic, because it is the privilege of a very restricted number of people. If it could be democratized, it would lose its quality as an art, become reduced to a craft, and end as an industry. In many branches of our musical life we already have reached this lowest, industrial phase, as we let musical democracy have its unbridled way."

Prophetic or just dyspeptic ? Comments welcome...

Best,

dp



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Date2009-06-22 12:51
FromDave Phillips
Subject[Csnd] [OT] Re: Re: Paul Hindemith says hello<---must [OT] in the subject!!!!!
Super Pija wrote:
> that email below must have [OT] in the subject!!!
>
>
>
>   

Ah, busted by the topic patrol. Sorry about the disruption, I promise 
nothing like that will ever happen again.

Best,

dp


Date2009-06-22 12:53
FromRory Walsh
Subject[Csnd] Re: [OT] Re: Re: Paul Hindemith says hello<---must [OT] in the subject!!!!!
What were you thinking!!

> Ah, busted by the topic patrol. Sorry about the disruption, I promise
> nothing like that will ever happen again.
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
>
>
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Date2009-06-22 15:03
Fromjohn saylor
Subject[Csnd] Re: Paul Hindemith says hello
guten tag

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Dave Phillips wrote:
> "If there is anything remaining in this world that is on the one side
> basically aristocratic and individualistic and on the other side as brutal
> as the fights of wild animals, it is artistic creation. It is aristocratic,
> because it is the privilege of a very restricted number of people. If it
> could be democratized, it would lose its quality as an art, become reduced
> to a craft, and end as an industry. In many branches of our musical life we
> already have reached this lowest, industrial phase, as we let musical
> democracy have its unbridled way."

i think he's right that artistic creation does not scale. [isn't that
what warhol's factory was about?]

i tend to think of more in terms of economics and serendipity instead
of politics. if economics [making money] is your goal, then your work
will suffer aesthetically [pop music]. even if you work for the art of
it, you still need inspiration of some sort [serendipity].

an evocative quote- thx.

-- 
\js  [  - . .  .   ]

Date2009-06-22 15:10
Frompeiman khosravi
Subject[Csnd] Re: Paul Hindemith says hello
I would take this more seriously if his own music was more interesting!

Thanks
Peiman

2009/6/22 Dave Phillips <dlphillips@woh.rr.com>
Greetings,

Something to start the week. While reading from PH's A Composer's World this morning I discovered this passage:

"If there is anything remaining in this world that is on the one side basically aristocratic and individualistic and on the other side as brutal as the fights of wild animals, it is artistic creation. It is aristocratic, because it is the privilege of a very restricted number of people. If it could be democratized, it would lose its quality as an art, become reduced to a craft, and end as an industry. In many branches of our musical life we already have reached this lowest, industrial phase, as we let musical democracy have its unbridled way."

Prophetic or just dyspeptic ? Comments welcome...

Best,

dp



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