Hello
Sorry for the slightly OT, but it's for Csound anyway.

I'm building a new performance setup for a friend of mine, she's
currently using a (sort of) heavy laptop and an RME multiface, this is
used to run Csound for live sampling and improvisation. She's been
touring with it for 6 years and the hardware should be upgraded
anyway. So, would it be possible to find something even lighter?

I've briefly checked the netbooks (Intel Atom cpu's etc), and it seems
they can't really deliver realtime high performance. My daughter's
(kind of new) Asus with an Atom N270 seems to run at about 25% the
performance of my 2 years old Dell laptop (Core 2 Duo).

So I would be interested in tips for high performance lightweight laptops.
Also, tips for a 4 in 4 out audio interface with low latency would be
appreciated. I am not comfortable buying something that has not been
tested in realtime with Csound, as earlier experiences shows there can
be significant differences in latency on otherwise comparable
products.

all best
Oeyvind


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The MacBooks are pretty light and realtime is no problem. The price  
tag is steep, I guess, but its OS is miles better than Windows, IMO.

Victor
On 25 Jan 2010, at 08:14, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:

> Hello
> Sorry for the slightly OT, but it's for Csound anyway.
>
> I'm building a new performance setup for a friend of mine, she's
> currently using a (sort of) heavy laptop and an RME multiface, this is
> used to run Csound for live sampling and improvisation. She's been
> touring with it for 6 years and the hardware should be upgraded
> anyway. So, would it be possible to find something even lighter?
>
> I've briefly checked the netbooks (Intel Atom cpu's etc), and it seems
> they can't really deliver realtime high performance. My daughter's
> (kind of new) Asus with an Atom N270 seems to run at about 25% the
> performance of my 2 years old Dell laptop (Core 2 Duo).
>
> So I would be interested in tips for high performance lightweight  
> laptops.
> Also, tips for a 4 in 4 out audio interface with low latency would be
> appreciated. I am not comfortable buying something that has not been
> tested in realtime with Csound, as earlier experiences shows there can
> be significant differences in latency on otherwise comparable
> products.
>
> all best
> Oeyvind
>
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If its a netbook, Indamixxx is a flavor of Linux that is designed to
run on netbooks, I have an eeepc running it and can do realtime audio
without glitches. It depends upon how much you want to stack up
though, since these netbooks are not dual core.

http://www.indamixx.com/

It doesn't come with csound but you can use the synaptic package
manager to easily add it in, since the os is based upon a souped up
ubuntu.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> Hello
> Sorry for the slightly OT, but it's for Csound anyway.
>
> I'm building a new performance setup for a friend of mine, she's
> currently using a (sort of) heavy laptop and an RME multiface, this is
> used to run Csound for live sampling and improvisation. She's been
> touring with it for 6 years and the hardware should be upgraded
> anyway. So, would it be possible to find something even lighter?
>
> I've briefly checked the netbooks (Intel Atom cpu's etc), and it seems
> they can't really deliver realtime high performance. My daughter's
> (kind of new) Asus with an Atom N270 seems to run at about 25% the
> performance of my 2 years old Dell laptop (Core 2 Duo).
>
> So I would be interested in tips for high performance lightweight laptops.
> Also, tips for a 4 in 4 out audio interface with low latency would be
> appreciated. I am not comfortable buying something that has not been
> tested in realtime with Csound, as earlier experiences shows there can
> be significant differences in latency on otherwise comparable
> products.
>
> all best
> Oeyvind
>
>
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He specifically said a netbook was not powerful enough...

Regards,
Mike

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Brian Redfern  wrote:
> If its a netbook, Indamixxx is a flavor of Linux that is designed to
> run on netbooks, I have an eeepc running it and can do realtime audio
> without glitches. It depends upon how much you want to stack up
> though, since these netbooks are not dual core.
>
> http://www.indamixx.com/
>
> It doesn't come with csound but you can use the synaptic package
> manager to easily add it in, since the os is based upon a souped up
> ubuntu.
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>> Hello
>> Sorry for the slightly OT, but it's for Csound anyway.
>>
>> I'm building a new performance setup for a friend of mine, she's
>> currently using a (sort of) heavy laptop and an RME multiface, this is
>> used to run Csound for live sampling and improvisation. She's been
>> touring with it for 6 years and the hardware should be upgraded
>> anyway. So, would it be possible to find something even lighter?
>>
>> I've briefly checked the netbooks (Intel Atom cpu's etc), and it seems
>> they can't really deliver realtime high performance. My daughter's
>> (kind of new) Asus with an Atom N270 seems to run at about 25% the
>> performance of my 2 years old Dell laptop (Core 2 Duo).
>>
>> So I would be interested in tips for high performance lightweight laptops.
>> Also, tips for a 4 in 4 out audio interface with low latency would be
>> appreciated. I am not comfortable buying something that has not been
>> tested in realtime with Csound, as earlier experiences shows there can
>> be significant differences in latency on otherwise comparable
>> products.
>>
>> all best
>> Oeyvind
>>
>>
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Thanks for all the tips on this.
Oeyvind

2010/1/26 peiman khosravi :
> I would go with a macbook and an Firebox presonus or RME interface (firebox
> being the cheaper option). I've had a firebox for 3 years now and can't be
> happier with it.
>
> Best,
> Peiman
> 2010/1/25 Victor Lazzarini 
>>
>> The MacBooks are pretty light and realtime is no problem. The price tag is
>> steep, I guess, but its OS is miles better than Windows, IMO.
>>
>> Victor
>> On 25 Jan 2010, at 08:14, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:
>>
>>> Hello
>>> Sorry for the slightly OT, but it's for Csound anyway.
>>>
>>> I'm building a new performance setup for a friend of mine, she's
>>> currently using a (sort of) heavy laptop and an RME multiface, this is
>>> used to run Csound for live sampling and improvisation. She's been
>>> touring with it for 6 years and the hardware should be upgraded
>>> anyway. So, would it be possible to find something even lighter?
>>>
>>> I've briefly checked the netbooks (Intel Atom cpu's etc), and it seems
>>> they can't really deliver realtime high performance. My daughter's
>>> (kind of new) Asus with an Atom N270 seems to run at about 25% the
>>> performance of my 2 years old Dell laptop (Core 2 Duo).
>>>
>>> So I would be interested in tips for high performance lightweight
>>> laptops.
>>> Also, tips for a 4 in 4 out audio interface with low latency would be
>>> appreciated. I am not comfortable buying something that has not been
>>> tested in realtime with Csound, as earlier experiences shows there can
>>> be significant differences in latency on otherwise comparable
>>> products.
>>>
>>> all best
>>> Oeyvind
>>>
>>>
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So what did your friend decide to go for in the end, and how did it work out?

On 9 February 2010 13:19, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> Thanks for all the tips on this.
> Oeyvind
>
> 2010/1/26 peiman khosravi :
>> I would go with a macbook and an Firebox presonus or RME interface (firebox
>> being the cheaper option). I've had a firebox for 3 years now and can't be
>> happier with it.
>>
>> Best,
>> Peiman
>> 2010/1/25 Victor Lazzarini 
>>>
>>> The MacBooks are pretty light and realtime is no problem. The price tag is
>>> steep, I guess, but its OS is miles better than Windows, IMO.
>>>
>>> Victor
>>> On 25 Jan 2010, at 08:14, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>> Sorry for the slightly OT, but it's for Csound anyway.
>>>>
>>>> I'm building a new performance setup for a friend of mine, she's
>>>> currently using a (sort of) heavy laptop and an RME multiface, this is
>>>> used to run Csound for live sampling and improvisation. She's been
>>>> touring with it for 6 years and the hardware should be upgraded
>>>> anyway. So, would it be possible to find something even lighter?
>>>>
>>>> I've briefly checked the netbooks (Intel Atom cpu's etc), and it seems
>>>> they can't really deliver realtime high performance. My daughter's
>>>> (kind of new) Asus with an Atom N270 seems to run at about 25% the
>>>> performance of my 2 years old Dell laptop (Core 2 Duo).
>>>>
>>>> So I would be interested in tips for high performance lightweight
>>>> laptops.
>>>> Also, tips for a 4 in 4 out audio interface with low latency would be
>>>> appreciated. I am not comfortable buying something that has not been
>>>> tested in realtime with Csound, as earlier experiences shows there can
>>>> be significant differences in latency on otherwise comparable
>>>> products.
>>>>
>>>> all best
>>>> Oeyvind
>>>>
>>>>
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Until now, she's used a dedicated Dell laptop and an RME Multiface.
Running a live sampler setup I wrote in Csound (MajaSampler). She's
been touring with this for many years and wants to replace even the
audio interface, get a new one for reliability purposes.
She has a MacBookPro that she uses for other tasks, and we'll take the
chance on using the same machine for live audio, with an RME Fireface
400. Since Victor's report on low latency with the internal sound card
on the MacBook, we might even try to do without the RME. Now sure
about the audio quality then, but we'll do some listening tests when
we get around to implementing the setup.

best
Oeyvind

2010/2/9 Rory Walsh :
> So what did your friend decide to go for in the end, and how did it work out?
>
> On 9 February 2010 13:19, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>> Thanks for all the tips on this.
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2010/1/26 peiman khosravi :
>>> I would go with a macbook and an Firebox presonus or RME interface (firebox
>>> being the cheaper option). I've had a firebox for 3 years now and can't be
>>> happier with it.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Peiman
>>> 2010/1/25 Victor Lazzarini 
>>>>
>>>> The MacBooks are pretty light and realtime is no problem. The price tag is
>>>> steep, I guess, but its OS is miles better than Windows, IMO.
>>>>
>>>> Victor
>>>> On 25 Jan 2010, at 08:14, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello
>>>>> Sorry for the slightly OT, but it's for Csound anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm building a new performance setup for a friend of mine, she's
>>>>> currently using a (sort of) heavy laptop and an RME multiface, this is
>>>>> used to run Csound for live sampling and improvisation. She's been
>>>>> touring with it for 6 years and the hardware should be upgraded
>>>>> anyway. So, would it be possible to find something even lighter?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've briefly checked the netbooks (Intel Atom cpu's etc), and it seems
>>>>> they can't really deliver realtime high performance. My daughter's
>>>>> (kind of new) Asus with an Atom N270 seems to run at about 25% the
>>>>> performance of my 2 years old Dell laptop (Core 2 Duo).
>>>>>
>>>>> So I would be interested in tips for high performance lightweight
>>>>> laptops.
>>>>> Also, tips for a 4 in 4 out audio interface with low latency would be
>>>>> appreciated. I am not comfortable buying something that has not been
>>>>> tested in realtime with Csound, as earlier experiences shows there can
>>>>> be significant differences in latency on otherwise comparable
>>>>> products.
>>>>>
>>>>> all best
>>>>> Oeyvind
>>>>>
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Keep us posted!

On 9 February 2010 14:09, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> Until now, she's used a dedicated Dell laptop and an RME Multiface.
> Running a live sampler setup I wrote in Csound (MajaSampler). She's
> been touring with this for many years and wants to replace even the
> audio interface, get a new one for reliability purposes.
> She has a MacBookPro that she uses for other tasks, and we'll take the
> chance on using the same machine for live audio, with an RME Fireface
> 400. Since Victor's report on low latency with the internal sound card
> on the MacBook, we might even try to do without the RME. Now sure
> about the audio quality then, but we'll do some listening tests when
> we get around to implementing the setup.
>
> best
> Oeyvind
>
> 2010/2/9 Rory Walsh :
>> So what did your friend decide to go for in the end, and how did it work out?
>>
>> On 9 February 2010 13:19, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>> Thanks for all the tips on this.
>>> Oeyvind
>>>
>>> 2010/1/26 peiman khosravi :
>>>> I would go with a macbook and an Firebox presonus or RME interface (firebox
>>>> being the cheaper option). I've had a firebox for 3 years now and can't be
>>>> happier with it.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Peiman
>>>> 2010/1/25 Victor Lazzarini 
>>>>>
>>>>> The MacBooks are pretty light and realtime is no problem. The price tag is
>>>>> steep, I guess, but its OS is miles better than Windows, IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor
>>>>> On 25 Jan 2010, at 08:14, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>> Sorry for the slightly OT, but it's for Csound anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm building a new performance setup for a friend of mine, she's
>>>>>> currently using a (sort of) heavy laptop and an RME multiface, this is
>>>>>> used to run Csound for live sampling and improvisation. She's been
>>>>>> touring with it for 6 years and the hardware should be upgraded
>>>>>> anyway. So, would it be possible to find something even lighter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've briefly checked the netbooks (Intel Atom cpu's etc), and it seems
>>>>>> they can't really deliver realtime high performance. My daughter's
>>>>>> (kind of new) Asus with an Atom N270 seems to run at about 25% the
>>>>>> performance of my 2 years old Dell laptop (Core 2 Duo).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I would be interested in tips for high performance lightweight
>>>>>> laptops.
>>>>>> Also, tips for a 4 in 4 out audio interface with low latency would be
>>>>>> appreciated. I am not comfortable buying something that has not been
>>>>>> tested in realtime with Csound, as earlier experiences shows there can
>>>>>> be significant differences in latency on otherwise comparable
>>>>>> products.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> all best
>>>>>> Oeyvind
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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The only issue with that is that you'll get some noise I think when  
the laptop is plugged into the power socket.
best,
P
On 9 Feb 2010, at 16:23, Rory Walsh wrote:

> Keep us posted!
>
> On 9 February 2010 14:09, Oeyvind Brandtsegg   
> wrote:
>> Until now, she's used a dedicated Dell laptop and an RME Multiface.
>> Running a live sampler setup I wrote in Csound (MajaSampler). She's
>> been touring with this for many years and wants to replace even the
>> audio interface, get a new one for reliability purposes.
>> She has a MacBookPro that she uses for other tasks, and we'll take  
>> the
>> chance on using the same machine for live audio, with an RME Fireface
>> 400. Since Victor's report on low latency with the internal sound  
>> card
>> on the MacBook, we might even try to do without the RME. Now sure
>> about the audio quality then, but we'll do some listening tests when
>> we get around to implementing the setup.
>>
>> best
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2010/2/9 Rory Walsh :
>>> So what did your friend decide to go for in the end, and how did  
>>> it work out?
>>>
>>> On 9 February 2010 13:19, Oeyvind Brandtsegg   
>>> wrote:
>>>> Thanks for all the tips on this.
>>>> Oeyvind
>>>>
>>>> 2010/1/26 peiman khosravi :
>>>>> I would go with a macbook and an Firebox presonus or RME  
>>>>> interface (firebox
>>>>> being the cheaper option). I've had a firebox for 3 years now  
>>>>> and can't be
>>>>> happier with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Peiman
>>>>> 2010/1/25 Victor Lazzarini 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The MacBooks are pretty light and realtime is no problem. The  
>>>>>> price tag is
>>>>>> steep, I guess, but its OS is miles better than Windows, IMO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>> On 25 Jan 2010, at 08:14, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>> Sorry for the slightly OT, but it's for Csound anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm building a new performance setup for a friend of mine, she's
>>>>>>> currently using a (sort of) heavy laptop and an RME multiface,  
>>>>>>> this is
>>>>>>> used to run Csound for live sampling and improvisation. She's  
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> touring with it for 6 years and the hardware should be upgraded
>>>>>>> anyway. So, would it be possible to find something even lighter?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've briefly checked the netbooks (Intel Atom cpu's etc), and  
>>>>>>> it seems
>>>>>>> they can't really deliver realtime high performance. My  
>>>>>>> daughter's
>>>>>>> (kind of new) Asus with an Atom N270 seems to run at about 25%  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> performance of my 2 years old Dell laptop (Core 2 Duo).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I would be interested in tips for high performance  
>>>>>>> lightweight
>>>>>>> laptops.
>>>>>>> Also, tips for a 4 in 4 out audio interface with low latency  
>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>> appreciated. I am not comfortable buying something that has  
>>>>>>> not been
>>>>>>> tested in realtime with Csound, as earlier experiences shows  
>>>>>>> there can
>>>>>>> be significant differences in latency on otherwise comparable
>>>>>>> products.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> all best
>>>>>>> Oeyvind
>>>>>>>
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