The Csound Blog has moved to a new URL.  New content will begin
arriving later this week.

http://csound.noisepages.com/

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On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Jacob Joaquin  wrote:
> The Csound Blog has moved to a new URL.  New content will begin
> arriving later this week.
>
> http://csound.noisepages.com/

very nice and promising blog, thanks!

btw:
the "Csound Blog RSS Feed" link point to http://csound.noisepages.com/
intead of http://csound.noisepages.com/feed/


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Thanks for catching that.  Noisepages just implemented BuddyPress a
couple weeks back, and I guess there are still a few bugs like this
that exist with the default setup.

Best,
Jake

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:31 AM, becks  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Jacob Joaquin  wrote:
>> The Csound Blog has moved to a new URL.  New content will begin
>> arriving later this week.
>>
>> http://csound.noisepages.com/
>
> very nice and promising blog, thanks!
>
> btw:
> the "Csound Blog RSS Feed" link point to http://csound.noisepages.com/
> intead of http://csound.noisepages.com/feed/
>
>
> --
> cb
>
>
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Csound is both cutting edge and old school.  The capabilities of the
synth engine falls on the former, the syntax and structure of the
language falls on the latter.

Csound is not capable of most modern programming practices.  It is
built on magic numbers, has no encapsulation, you cannot import
instruments, code reusability is far from straight forward, etc.
Programming with Csound isn't too far off from Music V.

While it is not my intention to turn people off from Csound, the tag
line is honest.  Plus, retro is always in style.  There will be plenty
of examples in the future that truly show off its cutting edge nature.

Best,
Jake


On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Anthony Palomba
 wrote:
> Yes, it is great to have this blog. I already joined!
>
> Although I must object to the subtitle "Old School Computer Music".
> Csound is not old school at all, it is still one of the most advanced
> cutting edge synthesis languages out there. Just because
> csound has a lot of history does not mean it is not relevant.
>
> I don't think that subtitle conveys that to new users. And at worst
> might even turn them off! I would suggest you change it to something
> more interesting.
>
>
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:31 PM, becks  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Jacob Joaquin 
>> wrote:
>> > The Csound Blog has moved to a new URL.  New content will begin
>> > arriving later this week.
>> >
>> > http://csound.noisepages.com/
>>
>> very nice and promising blog, thanks!
>>
>> btw:
>> the "Csound Blog RSS Feed" link point to http://csound.noisepages.com/
>> intead of http://csound.noisepages.com/feed/
>>
>>
>> --
>> cb
>>
>>
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Hi,

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Jacob Joaquin  wrote:
>
> Csound is not capable of most modern programming practices.  It is
> built on magic numbers, has no encapsulation, you cannot import
> instruments, code reusability is far from straight forward, etc.
> Programming with Csound isn't too far off from Music V.

This could be a description of Reaktor as well....

Cheers,
Andrés


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Reaktor falls into a different category since it's primarily GUI
based.  Though there are things that Reaktor can do that Csound can't
in terms of some of what I've listed.

Generally speaking, one can insert pre-existing instruments into an
ensemble without having to touch the innards of the instrument.  That
covers importing, reusability and encapsulation.  One  can copy and
paste and Csound instrument into an orc as long as they are mindful of
f-tables, patch busses (which are usually hardwired inside the instr
body) and opcodes when they do so.

To help alleviate some of the issues concerning the term 'old school',
I'll move forward with some cutting edge entries sooner than later.

Best,
Jake



On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Jacob Joaquin  wrote:
>>
>> Csound is not capable of most modern programming practices.  It is
>> built on magic numbers, has no encapsulation, you cannot import
>> instruments, code reusability is far from straight forward, etc.
>> Programming with Csound isn't too far off from Music V.
>
> This could be a description of Reaktor as well....
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
>
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True. For the record, I really like the concept and the look of the
blog. I really liked the side to side with Music V.

Cheers,
Andrés

El mié, 14-10-2009 a las 12:47 -0700, Jacob Joaquin escribió:
> Reaktor falls into a different category since it's primarily GUI
> based.  Though there are things that Reaktor can do that Csound can't
> in terms of some of what I've listed.
> 
> Generally speaking, one can insert pre-existing instruments into an
> ensemble without having to touch the innards of the instrument.  That
> covers importing, reusability and encapsulation.  One  can copy and
> paste and Csound instrument into an orc as long as they are mindful of
> f-tables, patch busses (which are usually hardwired inside the instr
> body) and opcodes when they do so.
> 
> To help alleviate some of the issues concerning the term 'old school',
> I'll move forward with some cutting edge entries sooner than later.
> 
> Best,
> Jake
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Jacob Joaquin  wrote:
> >>
> >> Csound is not capable of most modern programming practices.  It is
> >> built on magic numbers, has no encapsulation, you cannot import
> >> instruments, code reusability is far from straight forward, etc.
> >> Programming with Csound isn't too far off from Music V.
> >
> > This could be a description of Reaktor as well....
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Andrés
> >
> >
> > Send bugs reports to this list.
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What can Reaktor do that Csound can't?

Victor
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Reaktor falls into a different category since it's primarily GUI
based.  Though there are things that Reaktor can do that Csound can't
in terms of some of what I've listed.

Generally speaking, one can insert pre-existing instruments into an
ensemble without having to touch the innards of the instrument.  That
covers importing, reusability and encapsulation.  One  can copy and
paste and Csound instrument into an orc as long as they are mindful of
f-tables, patch busses (which are usually hardwired inside the instr
body) and opcodes when they do so.

To help alleviate some of the issues concerning the term 'old school',
I'll move forward with some cutting edge entries sooner than later.

Best,
Jake



On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Andres Cabrera  
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Jacob Joaquin  
> wrote:
>>
>> Csound is not capable of most modern programming practices. It is
>> built on magic numbers, has no encapsulation, you cannot import
>> instruments, code reusability is far from straight forward, etc.
>> Programming with Csound isn't too far off from Music V.
>
> This could be a description of Reaktor as well....
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
>
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> csound"


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Synth wise, nothing, probably much less.


On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:20 PM, victor  wrote:
> What can Reaktor do that Csound can't?
>
> Victor
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Joaquin" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:47 PM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Csound Blog has moved
>
>
> Reaktor falls into a different category since it's primarily GUI
> based.  Though there are things that Reaktor can do that Csound can't
> in terms of some of what I've listed.
>
> Generally speaking, one can insert pre-existing instruments into an
> ensemble without having to touch the innards of the instrument.  That
> covers importing, reusability and encapsulation.  One  can copy and
> paste and Csound instrument into an orc as long as they are mindful of
> f-tables, patch busses (which are usually hardwired inside the instr
> body) and opcodes when they do so.
>
> To help alleviate some of the issues concerning the term 'old school',
> I'll move forward with some cutting edge entries sooner than later.
>
> Best,
> Jake
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Andres Cabrera 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Jacob Joaquin 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Csound is not capable of most modern programming practices. It is
>>> built on magic numbers, has no encapsulation, you cannot import
>>> instruments, code reusability is far from straight forward, etc.
>>> Programming with Csound isn't too far off from Music V.
>>
>> This could be a description of Reaktor as well....
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrés
>>
>>
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One of the great things about Csound is that it is many things to many
people.  In this particular case, the blog is written from one persons
perspective who considers Csound to have more than a few retro coding
tendencies. There is certainly room for other Csound related blogs
with different points of views.

Best,
Jake


On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Anthony Palomba  wrote:
> Csound was never meant to be a programming language. It is
> a scripting language that controls an advanced
> DSP library. As far as its capabilities, I still think it is superior
> to anything out there. Supercollider might be the only thing
> that might be better, and even then I have not heard a good
> argument as to why I should switch to Supercollider.
>
> "Old school" conveys the impression of an old way of doing
> things. Something that is no longer relevant, but has sentimental value.
> I guess I look at csound differently. I view it as a very relevant
> and powerful tool.
>
> So although your tag line may be honest in a way, it is not a
> fully accurate representation of csound. Again, not a very good
> subtitle for a blog.
>
>
>
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Jacob Joaquin 
> wrote:
>>
>> Csound is both cutting edge and old school.  The capabilities of the
>> synth engine falls on the former, the syntax and structure of the
>> language falls on the latter.
>>
>> Csound is not capable of most modern programming practices.  It is
>> built on magic numbers, has no encapsulation, you cannot import
>> instruments, code reusability is far from straight forward, etc.
>> Programming with Csound isn't too far off from Music V.
>>
>> While it is not my intention to turn people off from Csound, the tag
>> line is honest.  Plus, retro is always in style.  There will be plenty
>> of examples in the future that truly show off its cutting edge nature.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jake
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Anthony Palomba
>>  wrote:
>> > Yes, it is great to have this blog. I already joined!
>> >
>> > Although I must object to the subtitle "Old School Computer Music".
>> > Csound is not old school at all, it is still one of the most advanced
>> > cutting edge synthesis languages out there. Just because
>> > csound has a lot of history does not mean it is not relevant.
>> >
>> > I don't think that subtitle conveys that to new users. And at worst
>> > might even turn them off! I would suggest you change it to something
>> > more interesting.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Anthony
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:31 PM, becks  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Jacob Joaquin 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > The Csound Blog has moved to a new URL.  New content will begin
>> >> > arriving later this week.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://csound.noisepages.com/
>> >>
>> >> very nice and promising blog, thanks!
>> >>
>> >> btw:
>> >> the "Csound Blog RSS Feed" link point to http://csound.noisepages.com/
>> >> intead of http://csound.noisepages.com/feed/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> cb
>> >>
>> >>
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Just to chip in, I think to a lot of people "old school" really has
the connotation of going back to an established quality method, or the
fundamentals.
In that way I definitely think Csound is old school. It's about the
sound and the process, not a trend or a brandname.

On 10/14/09, Jacob Joaquin  wrote:
> One of the great things about Csound is that it is many things to many
> people.  In this particular case, the blog is written from one persons
> perspective who considers Csound to have more than a few retro coding
> tendencies. There is certainly room for other Csound related blogs
> with different points of views.
>
> Best,
> Jake
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Anthony Palomba 
> wrote:
>> Csound was never meant to be a programming language. It is
>> a scripting language that controls an advanced
>> DSP library. As far as its capabilities, I still think it is superior
>> to anything out there. Supercollider might be the only thing
>> that might be better, and even then I have not heard a good
>> argument as to why I should switch to Supercollider.
>>
>> "Old school" conveys the impression of an old way of doing
>> things. Something that is no longer relevant, but has sentimental value.
>> I guess I look at csound differently. I view it as a very relevant
>> and powerful tool.
>>
>> So although your tag line may be honest in a way, it is not a
>> fully accurate representation of csound. Again, not a very good
>> subtitle for a blog.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Jacob Joaquin 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Csound is both cutting edge and old school.  The capabilities of the
>>> synth engine falls on the former, the syntax and structure of the
>>> language falls on the latter.
>>>
>>> Csound is not capable of most modern programming practices.  It is
>>> built on magic numbers, has no encapsulation, you cannot import
>>> instruments, code reusability is far from straight forward, etc.
>>> Programming with Csound isn't too far off from Music V.
>>>
>>> While it is not my intention to turn people off from Csound, the tag
>>> line is honest.  Plus, retro is always in style.  There will be plenty
>>> of examples in the future that truly show off its cutting edge nature.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jake
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Anthony Palomba
>>>  wrote:
>>> > Yes, it is great to have this blog. I already joined!
>>> >
>>> > Although I must object to the subtitle "Old School Computer Music".
>>> > Csound is not old school at all, it is still one of the most advanced
>>> > cutting edge synthesis languages out there. Just because
>>> > csound has a lot of history does not mean it is not relevant.
>>> >
>>> > I don't think that subtitle conveys that to new users. And at worst
>>> > might even turn them off! I would suggest you change it to something
>>> > more interesting.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Anthony
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:31 PM, becks  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Jacob Joaquin
>>> >> 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > The Csound Blog has moved to a new URL.  New content will begin
>>> >> > arriving later this week.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://csound.noisepages.com/
>>> >>
>>> >> very nice and promising blog, thanks!
>>> >>
>>> >> btw:
>>> >> the "Csound Blog RSS Feed" link point to http://csound.noisepages.com/
>>> >> intead of http://csound.noisepages.com/feed/
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> cb
>>> >>
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