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Date2021-05-01 17:21
FromVictor Lazzarini
Subject[Csnd] newish track
So here's something from me. It was recorded in December, but I only did post-production on it a few weeks ago.

It's a live recording, digital piano and synthesizer (Novation Summit), post-produced with Csound, playing with stereo width (the new ms2st opcode) and added convolution reverb.

The audio track in high quality 32bit floats - 


A video recording of the live performance, but with youtube audio quality.

https://youtu.be/Y3EPDMm6jIM

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

Date2021-05-01 17:35
FromAaron Krister Johnson
SubjectRe: [Csnd] newish track
Wonderful!

I will have to play around with ms2st, I did not know about it. How does it work to produce width? How do you reckon it compares to doing such enhancement with "hilbert"?


On Sat, May 1, 2021, 9:21 AM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
So here's something from me. It was recorded in December, but I only did post-production on it a few weeks ago.

It's a live recording, digital piano and synthesizer (Novation Summit), post-produced with Csound, playing with stereo width (the new ms2st opcode) and added convolution reverb.

The audio track in high quality 32bit floats - 


A video recording of the live performance, but with youtube audio quality.

https://youtu.be/Y3EPDMm6jIM

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland
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Date2021-05-01 17:44
FromAaron Krister Johnson
SubjectRe: [Csnd] newish track
Oh, I just read the docs for ms2st...I guess it's for when you already have a mid track and a side track...whereas, I am actually creating those "from scratch" with hilbert (real and imaginary being subtracted to produce a side), and then creating a copy of that difference, inverting, and that would be one channel vs. univerted being the other....both of course having some of the original mono mixed in.

On Sat, May 1, 2021, 9:35 AM Aaron Krister Johnson <akjmicro@gmail.com> wrote:
Wonderful!

I will have to play around with ms2st, I did not know about it. How does it work to produce width? How do you reckon it compares to doing such enhancement with "hilbert"?


On Sat, May 1, 2021, 9:21 AM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
So here's something from me. It was recorded in December, but I only did post-production on it a few weeks ago.

It's a live recording, digital piano and synthesizer (Novation Summit), post-produced with Csound, playing with stereo width (the new ms2st opcode) and added convolution reverb.

The audio track in high quality 32bit floats - 


A video recording of the live performance, but with youtube audio quality.

https://youtu.be/Y3EPDMm6jIM

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland
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Date2021-05-01 17:47
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Csnd] newish track
It's very simple actually. 

The st2ms produces an MS pair from a stereo recording, then the ms2st can  convert back to stereo with adjustable width (0 - 1) where 0.5 is normal
stereo.  Nothing fancy, Menno designed it and I added it.

I tried it with the stereo tracks from the synth (the recording was 4-track with piano and synth separated). It helped to emphasise the side sounds, and then using an envelope I could introduce some changes over time.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

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Wonderful!

I will have to play around with ms2st, I did not know about it. How does it work to produce width? How do you reckon it compares to doing such enhancement with "hilbert"?


On Sat, May 1, 2021, 9:21 AM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
So here's something from me. It was recorded in December, but I only did post-production on it a few weeks ago.

It's a live recording, digital piano and synthesizer (Novation Summit), post-produced with Csound, playing with stereo width (the new ms2st opcode) and added convolution reverb.

The audio track in high quality 32bit floats - 


A video recording of the live performance, but with youtube audio quality.

https://youtu.be/Y3EPDMm6jIM

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland
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Date2021-05-01 17:49
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Csnd] newish track
Yes, but you can create an MS pair from stereo, then recode it with varying width.
That's what I did.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

On May 1, 2021, at 5:45 PM, Aaron Krister Johnson <akjmicro@gmail.com> wrote:



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Oh, I just read the docs for ms2st...I guess it's for when you already have a mid track and a side track...whereas, I am actually creating those "from scratch" with hilbert (real and imaginary being subtracted to produce a side), and then creating a copy of that difference, inverting, and that would be one channel vs. univerted being the other....both of course having some of the original mono mixed in.

On Sat, May 1, 2021, 9:35 AM Aaron Krister Johnson <akjmicro@gmail.com> wrote:
Wonderful!

I will have to play around with ms2st, I did not know about it. How does it work to produce width? How do you reckon it compares to doing such enhancement with "hilbert"?


On Sat, May 1, 2021, 9:21 AM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
So here's something from me. It was recorded in December, but I only did post-production on it a few weeks ago.

It's a live recording, digital piano and synthesizer (Novation Summit), post-produced with Csound, playing with stereo width (the new ms2st opcode) and added convolution reverb.

The audio track in high quality 32bit floats - 


A video recording of the live performance, but with youtube audio quality.

https://youtu.be/Y3EPDMm6jIM

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland
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Date2021-05-02 17:44
From"Jeanette C."
SubjectRe: [Csnd] newish track
Hi Victor!
May 1 2021, Victor Lazzarini has written:

> So here's something from me. It was recorded in December, but I only did post-production on it a few weeks ago.
>
> It's a live recording, digital piano and synthesizer (Novation Summit), post-produced with Csound, playing with stereo width (the new ms2st opcode) and added convolution reverb.
>
> The audio track in high quality 32bit floats -
>
> https://soundcloud.com/victor-lazzarini/stephens-vamp
...
Many thanks for sharing! I enjoyed your track a lot. The piano sits very
well in its space. Sometimes I got that very realistic impression of
almost being able to walk forward and touch it. Also nice to hear the
Summit in this setting.

Thanks also for mentioning the ms2st opcode. That means I can throw out
my little UDO. The less stuff to include and gather before writing
something the better! :)

Best wishes,

Jeanette

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Date2021-05-02 18:09
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd] newish track
Thanks, Jeanette. It was Menno’s idea that we needed MS decoders and that we should split them in two so
that the decoding code be done with varying amounts of width.
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Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 2 May 2021, at 17:44, Jeanette C.  wrote:
> 
> *Warning*
> 
> This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> 
> Hi Victor!
> May 1 2021, Victor Lazzarini has written:
> 
>> So here's something from me. It was recorded in December, but I only did post-production on it a few weeks ago.
>> 
>> It's a live recording, digital piano and synthesizer (Novation Summit), post-produced with Csound, playing with stereo width (the new ms2st opcode) and added convolution reverb.
>> 
>> The audio track in high quality 32bit floats -
>> 
>> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fvictor-lazzarini%2Fstephens-vamp&data=04%7C01%7CVictor.Lazzarini%40mu.ie%7Ce578cc7042134b1fed0e08d90d897dde%7C1454f5ccbb354685bbd98621fd8055c9%7C1%7C0%7C637555706446612422%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=jOVIa4qLU0gVi3H6%2F%2FNbsdrrB4FCyDFPQSQyOwK2GzQ%3D&reserved=0
> ...
> Many thanks for sharing! I enjoyed your track a lot. The piano sits very
> well in its space. Sometimes I got that very realistic impression of
> almost being able to walk forward and touch it. Also nice to hear the
> Summit in this setting.
> 
> Thanks also for mentioning the ms2st opcode. That means I can throw out
> my little UDO. The less stuff to include and gather before writing
> something the better! :)
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jeanette
> 
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