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OT Re: [Csnd] Re: csound/max msp

Date2011-12-08 15:57
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectOT Re: [Csnd] Re: csound/max msp
So this means mixing in Csound is a piece of cake.
P




-odac -d




sr     = 96000
ksmps  = 100
nchnls = 6
0dbfs  = 1

instr 1
Sfile = p4
ilen	filelen	 Sfile

iskip = p6
p3 = ilen-iskip

asig1, asig2, asig3, asig4, asig5, asig6	diskin2		Sfile, 1, iskip

iamp = db(p5)

aenv	linen	iamp, .05, p3, .05

	outh	asig1*aenv, asig2*aenv, asig3*aenv, asig4*aenv, asig5*aenv, asig6*aenv

endin	






	;start(sec)												;amp(dB)	;skip(sec)
i1 	0 		1 	"/Volumes/iMacData/verTex/sectionGestures2/stems/sectionGesture2-082CS.aif"
	-3		60
i1 	0 		1 	"/Volumes/iMacData/verTex/sectionGestures2/stems/sectionGesture2-082.aif"
  	-6		60







On 7 December 2011 15:09, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes, i1 is evaluated and then it is put into p3.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Louis Cohen  wrote:
>> Thanks for that extra info, Andres. Just to be clear, Victor's example --
>>
>>
>>>
>>> instr 1
>>>
>>> i1 filelen "myfile.wav"
>>> p3 = i1
>>> a1 diskin2 "myfile.wav",1
>>>
>>> out a1
>>>
>>> endin
>>
>>
>> ---works because the first two lines are executed at i-time? is that
>> correct?
>>
>> -Lou
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2011, at 3:14 AM, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yes, but you have to be careful, because since they are i-time
>>> parameters, if you change them after they have gone into an opcode,
>>> the value in the opcode may or may not change depending on the
>>> internal implementation. But it's generally safe to change them at the
>>> start of the instrument.
>>>
>>> However, I'm not sure how safe changing p1 or p2 is...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Louis Cohen  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This is quite a surprise to me, too.
>>>>
>>>> Does this mean you can overwrite any of the incoming parameters?
>>>>
>>>> -Lou
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 4:09 PM, peiman khosravi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ahh, I didn't know you can overwrite p3 like that. Nice!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the tip.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peiman
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 December 2011 21:04, Victor Lazzarini 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or even
>>>>>>
>>>>>> instr 1
>>>>>> p3 filelen "myfile.wav"
>>>>>> a1 diskin2 "myfile.wav",1
>>>>>> out a1
>>>>>> endin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2011, at 21:01, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you don't need two instruments, this should do the job
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> instr 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i1 filelen "myfile.wav"
>>>>>>> p3 = i1
>>>>>>> a1 diskin2 "myfile.wav",1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> out a1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> endin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2011, at 20:51, peiman khosravi wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also for me it's a hassle  that an instrument running diskin2 or
>>>>>>>> similar opcode doesn't terminate itself once soundfile is over in a
>>>>>>>> non-loop mode. Or is there an easy way of doing this other than
>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>> two instruments? Or is there an opcode to end a note from within the
>>>>>>>> instrument itself?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems that a lot of the time one needs to fight the note-based
>>>>>>>> paradigm in Csound.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> P
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6 December 2011 18:38, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had brought this up before on the dev list or on this list.  I
>>>>>>>>> really do think that there needs to be mode to csound that is meant
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> be always running without a duration at all.  Conceptually it make
>>>>>>>>> sense that an audio engine be like this, with the option to turn of
>>>>>>>>> rendering available. The current Csound way of ending a render when
>>>>>>>>> all notes done would be fine to maintain as a default, but having a
>>>>>>>>> means to not end when there are no notes is something I really do
>>>>>>>>> think needs to get in eventually.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As part of the changes I had planned for Csound 6 is to abstract out
>>>>>>>>> the Notelist as a generic tickable structure and to allow for this
>>>>>>>>> free-running mode.  It would be nice to coordinate to do this all at
>>>>>>>>> one time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> steven
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:22 PM,   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A day would be
>>>>>>>>>> f0 86400
>>>>>>>>>> I can change that immeduately.  To implement Mie's suggestion might
>>>>>>>>>> take a
>>>>>>>>>> little more time -- but it could be
>>>>>>>>>> f0 $INF
>>>>>>>>>> which is about 7 years
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyone have strong feelings?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i think this is a good idea. but i think that
>>>>>>>>>>> a) it should be combined with a warning message like
>>>>>>>>>>>  "no duration has been set in the score. score will run for ...
>>>>>>>>>>> seconds as default."
>>>>>>>>>>> b) one hour is good, but one day is better. if csound runs by
>>>>>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>>>>> for one hour in a rehearsal when you forgot to specify the score
>>>>>>>>>>> duration, it can lead to an uncomfortable situation during the
>>>>>>>>>>> rehearsal. but as men need sleep, one day should be sufficient for
>>>>>>>>>>> all-days situations.
>>>>>>>>>>> what do you think, rory? please do NOT consider neutrinos as
>>>>>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> time back ...
>>>>>>>>>>> =)
>>>>>>>>>>>    joachim
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 06.12.2011 18:41, schrieb jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is no score in a .csd file then a dummy scoer of
>>>>>>>>>>>> f0 3600
>>>>>>>>>>>> is created -- ie 1 hour.  We could discuss whether this is the
>>>>>>>>>>>> corret
>>>>>>>>>>>> value.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Been this way for some time
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What?! First the neutrinos and now this!?! This is totally new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 December 2011 17:23, joachim heintz 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you mean the score section can be left empty?!?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 06.12.2011 14:31, schrieb jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and with no score a "f0 36002 IS GENERATED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kaspar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is info in the manual:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/f.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "An f 0 statement (zero p1, positive p2) may be used to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time with no associated action. Such time markers are useful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> padding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a score section (see s statement) and for letting Csound run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realtime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events only (e.g. using only MIDI input without score
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given is the number of seconds Csound will run. If you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for 10 hours, use:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> f0 36000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greetings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/csound-max-msp-tp5052026p5052054.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>>>>> Dept. of Music
>>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>>>> Dept. of Music
>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Date2011-12-08 16:12
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: OT Re: [Csnd] Re: csound/max msp
yes, it is.
On 8 Dec 2011, at 15:57, peiman khosravi wrote:

> So this means mixing in Csound is a piece of cake.
> P
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -odac -d
> 
> 
> 
> 
> sr     = 96000
> ksmps  = 100
> nchnls = 6
> 0dbfs  = 1
> 
> instr 1
> Sfile = p4
> ilen	filelen	 Sfile
> 
> iskip = p6
> p3 = ilen-iskip
> 
> asig1, asig2, asig3, asig4, asig5, asig6	diskin2		Sfile, 1, iskip
> 
> iamp = db(p5)
> 
> aenv	linen	iamp, .05, p3, .05
> 
> 	outh	asig1*aenv, asig2*aenv, asig3*aenv, asig4*aenv, asig5*aenv, asig6*aenv
> 
> endin	
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 	;start(sec)												;amp(dB)	;skip(sec)
> i1 	0 		1 	"/Volumes/iMacData/verTex/sectionGestures2/stems/sectionGesture2-082CS.aif"
> 	-3		60
> i1 	0 		1 	"/Volumes/iMacData/verTex/sectionGestures2/stems/sectionGesture2-082.aif"
>  	-6		60
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7 December 2011 15:09, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Yes, i1 is evaluated and then it is put into p3.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Andrés
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Louis Cohen  wrote:
>>> Thanks for that extra info, Andres. Just to be clear, Victor's example --
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> instr 1
>>>> 
>>>> i1 filelen "myfile.wav"
>>>> p3 = i1
>>>> a1 diskin2 "myfile.wav",1
>>>> 
>>>> out a1
>>>> 
>>>> endin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---works because the first two lines are executed at i-time? is that
>>> correct?
>>> 
>>> -Lou
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 7, 2011, at 3:14 AM, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, but you have to be careful, because since they are i-time
>>>> parameters, if you change them after they have gone into an opcode,
>>>> the value in the opcode may or may not change depending on the
>>>> internal implementation. But it's generally safe to change them at the
>>>> start of the instrument.
>>>> 
>>>> However, I'm not sure how safe changing p1 or p2 is...
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Andrés
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Louis Cohen  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is quite a surprise to me, too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does this mean you can overwrite any of the incoming parameters?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Lou
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 4:09 PM, peiman khosravi wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ahh, I didn't know you can overwrite p3 like that. Nice!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for the tip.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peiman
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6 December 2011 21:04, Victor Lazzarini 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> or even
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> instr 1
>>>>>>> p3 filelen "myfile.wav"
>>>>>>> a1 diskin2 "myfile.wav",1
>>>>>>> out a1
>>>>>>> endin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2011, at 21:01, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> you don't need two instruments, this should do the job
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> instr 1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> i1 filelen "myfile.wav"
>>>>>>>> p3 = i1
>>>>>>>> a1 diskin2 "myfile.wav",1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> out a1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> endin
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2011, at 20:51, peiman khosravi wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Also for me it's a hassle  that an instrument running diskin2 or
>>>>>>>>> similar opcode doesn't terminate itself once soundfile is over in a
>>>>>>>>> non-loop mode. Or is there an easy way of doing this other than
>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>> two instruments? Or is there an opcode to end a note from within the
>>>>>>>>> instrument itself?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It seems that a lot of the time one needs to fight the note-based
>>>>>>>>> paradigm in Csound.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> P
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 6 December 2011 18:38, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I had brought this up before on the dev list or on this list.  I
>>>>>>>>>> really do think that there needs to be mode to csound that is meant
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> be always running without a duration at all.  Conceptually it make
>>>>>>>>>> sense that an audio engine be like this, with the option to turn of
>>>>>>>>>> rendering available. The current Csound way of ending a render when
>>>>>>>>>> all notes done would be fine to maintain as a default, but having a
>>>>>>>>>> means to not end when there are no notes is something I really do
>>>>>>>>>> think needs to get in eventually.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As part of the changes I had planned for Csound 6 is to abstract out
>>>>>>>>>> the Notelist as a generic tickable structure and to allow for this
>>>>>>>>>> free-running mode.  It would be nice to coordinate to do this all at
>>>>>>>>>> one time.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> steven
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:22 PM,   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> A day would be
>>>>>>>>>>> f0 86400
>>>>>>>>>>> I can change that immeduately.  To implement Mie's suggestion might
>>>>>>>>>>> take a
>>>>>>>>>>> little more time -- but it could be
>>>>>>>>>>> f0 $INF
>>>>>>>>>>> which is about 7 years
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone have strong feelings?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> i think this is a good idea. but i think that
>>>>>>>>>>>> a) it should be combined with a warning message like
>>>>>>>>>>>>  "no duration has been set in the score. score will run for ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds as default."
>>>>>>>>>>>> b) one hour is good, but one day is better. if csound runs by
>>>>>>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>>>>>> for one hour in a rehearsal when you forgot to specify the score
>>>>>>>>>>>> duration, it can lead to an uncomfortable situation during the
>>>>>>>>>>>> rehearsal. but as men need sleep, one day should be sufficient for
>>>>>>>>>>>> all-days situations.
>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you think, rory? please do NOT consider neutrinos as
>>>>>>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> time back ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> =)
>>>>>>>>>>>>    joachim
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 06.12.2011 18:41, schrieb jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is no score in a .csd file then a dummy scoer of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> f0 3600
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is created -- ie 1 hour.  We could discuss whether this is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> corret
>>>>>>>>>>>>> value.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Been this way for some time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What?! First the neutrinos and now this!?! This is totally new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 December 2011 17:23, joachim heintz 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you mean the score section can be left empty?!?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 06.12.2011 14:31, schrieb jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and with no score a "f0 36002 IS GENERATED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kaspar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is info in the manual:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/f.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "An f 0 statement (zero p1, positive p2) may be used to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time with no associated action. Such time markers are useful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> padding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a score section (see s statement) and for letting Csound run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realtime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events only (e.g. using only MIDI input without score
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given is the number of seconds Csound will run. If you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for 10 hours, use:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> f0 36000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greetings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/csound-max-msp-tp5052026p5052054.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>>>>>> Dept. of Music
>>>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>>>>> Dept. of Music
>>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
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