| Oeyvind and I got a little closer to solving the Live issue yesterday.
We managed to get the bare bones plugin working in live without any
extra messing around. I hope I can use the same compiler settings to
get Cabbage working for you. I'll keep you posted.
On 26 August 2014 09:34, alfonso santimone wrote:
> hi all,
> here's a potentially larger testing base for csound API related stuff
> (csound~, Cabbage, etc.)
> someone report some problems with both.
> i think this can an interesting potential.
>
> http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5854589
>
>
>
> Il venerdì 22 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg ha
> scritto:
>
>> I just meant that there were enough similarities in our symptoms that
>> it could seem to be rooted in the same actual problem.
>> It has been extremely difficult to track down the cause, and as usual
>> also difficult to show to others a problem that can not be replicated
>> on their machine. I thought it had something to do with the exact
>> version of windows, but since you do not have the same version as me
>> (and the problems I currently have did not show up on the previous
>> computer, where I actually had the same OS as you, Win 7 Pro), then it
>> is probably something else.
>> Then again, the fact that for both you and me can avoid some of the
>> problems by running in compatibility mode for windows XP again
>> suggests there is something fishy OS related.
>> The problems on my side can be replicated with a "hello world" plugins
>> that Rory compiled, one that does not load csound or cabbage at all.
>> It is just a JUCE framework plug compiled with mingw. My current shot
>> in the dark hunch is that the mingw compiled library somehow is seen
>> as a suspect for threat/malicious by the OS and is prevented from
>> running properly. This is why I tried disabling UAC. I also tried
>> disabling virus software, firewalls, Windows defender, looking at
>> system logs for things that had been prevented from running. So far
>> nothing.
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2014-08-21 15:28 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> :
>> > do you mean the cause for Live not seeing 32 bit Cabbage VST?
>> > could be connected with my problem with csound~ 1.1.2 and Max 6.1.8
>> > 32bit?
>> >
>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok, thanks. Guess it is not as simple as the specific version of
>> >> windows then.... back to searching for the cause.
>> >>
>> >> 2014-08-21 12:37 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >> :
>> >> > i'm on Win 7 Pro 64bit
>> >> >
>> >> > Il giovedì 21 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> > ha
>> >> > scritto:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Ok. So all is working well, as long as you run Live in
>> >> >> compatibility/admin
>> >> >> mode?
>> >> >> Good. Which version of Windows 7 do you use
>> >> >> (home/pro/ultimate/enterprise)?
>> >> >> It seems, on my end there is a difference between the professional
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> enterprise versions, with less problems on the professional version.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2014-08-20 12:39 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >> >> :
>> >> >> > it works setting compatibility and administrator mode.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > strange thing is that
>> >> >> > Max 6.1.8 32 bit and Reaper loads the Cabbage 32bit plugs
>> >> >> > correclty
>> >> >> > right
>> >> >> > away.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > This implies that Max 6.1.8 is correcly calling the csound6 api i
>> >> >> > guess.
>> >> >> > So it's strange this does not happens with csound~ 1.1.2
>> >> >> > mhh.
>> >> >> > i'd definetly try to compile csound~ on my machine and see what
>> >> >> > happens.
>> >> >> > as
>> >> >> > soon as i get some spare time.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:59 AM, alfonso santimone
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> thanks Oeyvind.
>> >> >> >> i'll try in a few minutes
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Hi Alfonso,
>> >> >> >>> Could you try this to make Live 32 bit see the VST plugins:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> 1. Find the exe, (in C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9
>> >> >> >>> Suite\Program
>> >> >> >>> on
>> >> >> >>> my machine),
>> >> >> >>> - right click, select properties
>> >> >> >>> - go to the compatibility tab, check "run in compatibility
>> >> >> >>> mode"
>> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >>> select "Windows XP Service pack 2" as the mode
>> >> >> >>> - also tick "run as admin while you're on that tab
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> After this, you should be able to find the plugins.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Another thing to try is a complete uninstall/reinstall of Live,
>> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >>> testing of it works before authorization of Live (as is the case
>> >> >> >>> on
>> >> >> >>> my
>> >> >> >>> system).
>> >> >> >>> To do this, take care to clean out all references to Live on the
>> >> >> >>> computer before re-installing.
>> >> >> >>> 1. Uninstall
>> >> >> >>> 2. Delete the folders:
>> >> >> >>> - C:\ProgramData\Ableton
>> >> >> >>> - C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Ableton
>> >> >> >>> 3. Re-install Live
>> >> >> >>> - do NOT authorize when you start Live
>> >> >> >>> 4. try to find and use the plugins
>> >> >> >>> - if it works, try to authorize, ... then wait for a few
>> >> >> >>> minutes,
>> >> >> >>> restart Live and try to use the plugins again
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> 2014-08-15 21:43 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> :
>> >> >> >>> > i'm really confused!
>> >> >> >>> > don't understand what does not work on my side
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >> >> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> I am using my own build of Csound, but yesterday I tried
>> >> >> >>> >> csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> with
>> >> >> >>> >> Mike's package both old and new and it worked fine. Btw, I
>> >> >> >>> >> now
>> >> >> >>> >> have
>> >> >> >>> >> a
>> >> >> >>> >> version of Live 32bit and it sees my Cabbage32 plugins
>> >> >> >>> >> without a
>> >> >> >>> >> problem. This is odd, because I think we are both using the
>> >> >> >>> >> exact
>> >> >> >>> >> same
>> >> >> >>> >> operating systems!
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> On 15 August 2014 20:20, alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> > ops..sorry Reaper sees the 32 bit VST ( i've put it in the
>> >> >> >>> >> > wrong
>> >> >> >>> >> > folder
>> >> >> >>> >> > )
>> >> >> >>> >> > Ableton 32 bit still does not see it.
>> >> >> >>> >> > I wonder if the reasons why are similar to those that give
>> >> >> >>> >> > me
>> >> >> >>> >> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> > problem
>> >> >> >>> >> > about csound~.
>> >> >> >>> >> > Still i want to report that i have no problems with csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> > 1.1.0
>> >> >> >>> >> > (
>> >> >> >>> >> > using
>> >> >> >>> >> > csound 5 ).
>> >> >> >>> >> > What's changed that can give problems?
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> basically i'm on windows because i can have more powerful
>> >> >> >>> >> >> machine
>> >> >> >>> >> >> at
>> >> >> >>> >> >> lower
>> >> >> >>> >> >> cost.
>> >> >> >>> >> >> i admit that i've got very few problems.
>> >> >> >>> >> >> this thing about csound is one of them.
>> >> >> >>> >> >> but given csound is such a complex project it's normal
>> >> >> >>> >> >> that
>> >> >> >>> >> >> some
>> >> >> >>> >> >> system
>> >> >> >>> >> >> have some weak point.
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Rory are you using latest Mike csound installer as i do
>> >> >> >>> >> >> now?
>> >> >> >>> >> >> or the "regular" 6.03.2 ?
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> thanks
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Michael Gogins
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> only
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> reason I
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> maintainer
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> of
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> Windows installer for Csound.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> Regards,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> Mike
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> Michael Gogins
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> Irreducible Productions
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> 32
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> Cabbage
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> of
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> Windows
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> at
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> constantly
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> destroy
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> my
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> main
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> user profile. And the "solution" recommended by
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> Microsoft
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> is
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> create
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> a new user profile and start copying things manually
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> from
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> one
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> account
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> their
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> not
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> read
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> your
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> understand
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> that
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> for most people everything works fine :)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > They work just fine.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST (
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > other
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > 32
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > bit
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > VST are
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > )
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> side
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> or
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> how
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> does
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > (experimental)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Cabbage
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > 64
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > VST works perfectly
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > and
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > load
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > it
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > in
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > bit.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > ..mhh...
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> se
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> but
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> how
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> just
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> work.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> which
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> helped
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> having
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> between
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> shot.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > says,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > I
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > think
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > will
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > be
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > worth a
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > try.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > related
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > access
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > protection,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > or
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > try
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > setting
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > in
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dark,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > but
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > system.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > To
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > set
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > and
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > you'll
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > find
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > a
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > number
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > XP/SP2
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > In
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > this
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > exe,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > which
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > grant
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > that
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (or
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not) help:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (permissions for
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > guarantees
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > :-)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > :
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> something
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> do
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> with
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> admin
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> priviledges.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> 1.1.0
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> and
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Max
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> 6.1.8
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> everything
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> works fine
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> on my system.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> 1.1.2
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> in
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> this
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> regards?
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> a
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ha
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> scritto:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> pthreadGC2.dll
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> issue
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> (copied
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> into
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> with
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Cabbage
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> VSTs
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> under
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> *until
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> I
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live*,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> then
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> load
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> plugin
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> numerous
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> different
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> versions
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> of
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Tested
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> disabling
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> UAC.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Must
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> run
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> plugins
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> be
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found in
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> consistent....
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> be
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> more.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> also
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> using
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> does
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> show
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> such
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> help
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> but
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> so
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> far
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> has
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> been successful.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> :
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing! Very glad that it's
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > working
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > there,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > it
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > narrows
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > be
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > an
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > issue
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > then
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > of
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > some
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > then.)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > in
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > ticket,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > but I
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > forgot
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to mention that. I think previously,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Csound5
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > and
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > both
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > used
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > distribute
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > In
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that's
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > name), so
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > I'll
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > include
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > (I just added
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > keep
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Enterprise
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Win
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > 7?
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > steven
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Walsh
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> have
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> place a
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> pthread
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> dll
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> into
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> getting
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> an
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> error
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 127.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> What
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on?
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Myself
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> and
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Oeyvind are
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Enterprise
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> That
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> has
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> been
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> route
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> of
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> quite
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> diagnosing
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> why
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> runs
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> fine
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> on
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> my
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> own.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> out.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> One
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> variable
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> that
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Michael
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and I
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> are
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> using
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> help
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> us
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> diagnose
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> this?
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> It
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> would
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 32-bit
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/),
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 6.03.2
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> placed
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> online
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> After
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~.mxe
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> then
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> open
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> pluckedsynth.maxpat
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> from
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> when
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> trying
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> load the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
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>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> posted
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> here
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>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> with
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> body
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Send bugs reports to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> --
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
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>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > --
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Oeyvind Brandtsegg
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>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
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>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >
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>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >
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>> >> >> >>> >> >>>>
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>> >> >> >>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >>
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>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>> >> >> >>> NTNU
>> >> >> >>> 7491 Trondheim
>> >> >> >>> Norway
>> >> >> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> >> >> >>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >> >> >>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >> >> >>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >> >> >>>
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>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >> Professor of Music Technology
>> >> >> NTNU
>> >> >> 7491 Trondheim
>> >> >> Norway
>> >> >> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://flyndresang.no/
>> >> >> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >> >> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >> >> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> Professor of Music Technology
>> >> NTNU
>> >> 7491 Trondheim
>> >> Norway
>> >> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>
>> >> http://flyndresang.no/
>> >> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Send bugs reports to
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>> >> csound"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> Professor of Music Technology
>> NTNU
>> 7491 Trondheim
>> Norway
>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>
>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>
>>
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