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[Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7

Date2014-08-14 17:11
FromSteven Yi
Subject[Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
Hi All,

Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for Csound6 is
not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.  (It's
been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).  We're
sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is that
Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are using Windows
8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.

Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?  It would
require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
(http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for Windows
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
(http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After installing, copy
the examples from the %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then open Max
Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder containing
the csound~.mxe.

Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the csound~
object, while I have not had problems.

Help testing would be appreciated.

Thanks,
steven

Date2014-08-14 17:59
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread dll into
the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127. What
version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of Windows
7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route of quite
a few problems on Windows.

On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for Csound6 is
> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.  (It's
> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).  We're
> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is that
> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are using Windows
> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>
> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?  It would
> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for Windows
> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After installing, copy
> the examples from the %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then open Max
> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder containing
> the csound~.mxe.
>
> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the csound~
> object, while I have not had problems.
>
> Help testing would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> steven
>
>
> Send bugs reports to
>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>
>
>

Date2014-08-14 18:14
FromSteven Yi
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
Hi Rory,

Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it narrows the
scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then of some
conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)

We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket, but I forgot
to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~ both used
pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that. In Csound 6
the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the name), so I'll
have to update the csound~ installer to include the pthreadsGC2.dll.
(I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365 to keep
track of that).

What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?

Thanks!
steven

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread dll into
> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127. What
> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
> currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of Windows
> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route of quite
> a few problems on Windows.
>
> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for Csound6 is
>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.  (It's
>> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).  We're
>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is that
>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are using Windows
>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>>
>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?  It would
>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for Windows
>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After installing, copy
>> the examples from the %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then open Max
>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder containing
>> the csound~.mxe.
>>
>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the csound~
>> object, while I have not had problems.
>>
>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> steven
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to
>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to
>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>
>
>

Date2014-08-14 18:52
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
Live, when registered will not see any Cabbage plugins, but they work
fine UNTIL Live is registered. This is only on Win7 Enterprise. No
such problems on any other version of Windows. Really odd. We're still
looking into it.

On 14 August 2014 19:14, Steven Yi  wrote:
> Hi Rory,
>
> Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it narrows the
> scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then of some
> conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>
> We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket, but I forgot
> to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~ both used
> pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that. In Csound 6
> the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the name), so I'll
> have to update the csound~ installer to include the pthreadsGC2.dll.
> (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365 to keep
> track of that).
>
> What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>
> Thanks!
> steven
>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread dll into
>> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127. What
>> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
>> currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of Windows
>> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route of quite
>> a few problems on Windows.
>>
>> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for Csound6 is
>>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.  (It's
>>> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).  We're
>>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is that
>>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are using Windows
>>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>>>
>>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?  It would
>>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for Windows
>>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After installing, copy
>>> the examples from the %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then open Max
>>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder containing
>>> the csound~.mxe.
>>>
>>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the csound~
>>> object, while I have not had problems.
>>>
>>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> steven
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to
>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to
>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>
>
>

Date2014-08-14 18:56
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue (copied into
Csound/bin and it is ok)

Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage VSTs under
Ableton Live.
The current situation is that they work *until I authorize Live*, then
2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the plugin
"because it can not be found". Tested numerous different versions of
Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling UAC. Must run
Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be found in the
first place. The process is very repeatable and consistent....
authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any more. Live
can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and also using
JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show any such
problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so far has not
been successful.



2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi :
> Hi Rory,
>
> Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it narrows the
> scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then of some
> conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>
> We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket, but I forgot
> to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~ both used
> pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that. In Csound 6
> the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the name), so I'll
> have to update the csound~ installer to include the pthreadsGC2.dll.
> (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365 to keep
> track of that).
>
> What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>
> Thanks!
> steven
>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread dll into
>> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127. What
>> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
>> currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of Windows
>> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route of quite
>> a few problems on Windows.
>>
>> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for Csound6 is
>>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.  (It's
>>> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).  We're
>>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is that
>>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are using Windows
>>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>>>
>>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?  It would
>>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for Windows
>>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After installing, copy
>>> the examples from the %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then open Max
>>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder containing
>>> the csound~.mxe.
>>>
>>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the csound~
>>> object, while I have not had problems.
>>>
>>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> steven
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to
>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to
>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>
>
>



-- 

Oeyvind Brandtsegg
Professor of Music Technology
NTNU
7491 Trondheim
Norway
Cell: +47 92 203 205

http://flyndresang.no/
http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
http://soundcloud.com/t-emp

Date2014-08-15 12:42
Fromalfonso santimone
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
i guess i have UAC disabled.
should i try to enable it?
i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do with admin priviledges.
and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max 6.1.8 everything works fine
on my system.
so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this regards?
a

Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha scritto:
I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue (copied into
Csound/bin and it is ok)

Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage VSTs under
Ableton Live.
The current situation is that they work *until I authorize Live*, then
2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the plugin
"because it can not be found". Tested numerous different versions of
Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling UAC. Must run
Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be found in the
first place. The process is very repeatable and consistent....
authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any more. Live
can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and also using
JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show any such
problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so far has not
been successful.



2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>:
> Hi Rory,
>
> Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it narrows the
> scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then of some
> conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>
> We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket, but I forgot
> to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~ both used
> pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that. In Csound 6
> the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the name), so I'll
> have to update the csound~ installer to include the pthreadsGC2.dll.
> (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365 to keep
> track of that).
>
> What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>
> Thanks!
> steven
>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread dll into
>> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127. What
>> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
>> currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of Windows
>> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route of quite
>> a few problems on Windows.
>>
>> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for Csound6 is
>>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.  (It's
>>> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).  We're
>>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is that
>>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are using Windows
>>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>>>
>>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?  It would
>>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for Windows
>>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After installing, copy
>>> the examples from the %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then open Max
>>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder containing
>>> the csound~.mxe.
>>>
>>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the csound~
>>> object, while I have not had problems.
>>>
>>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> steven
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to
>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to
>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>
>
>



--

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Professor of Music Technology
NTNU
7491 Trondheim
Norway
Cell: +47 92 203 205

http://flyndresang.no/
http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
http://soundcloud.com/t-emp


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Date2014-08-15 13:12
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think it will
not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be worth a try.
It seems the problems on my system are also related to access
permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or compatibility
between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting compatibility
mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark, but it
matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set the
compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll find a number
of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode. In this
dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which might grant
the application more privileges.
There are also a registry edit suggested here that might (or might not) help:
http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
(permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)

2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone :
> i guess i have UAC disabled.
> should i try to enable it?
> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do with admin
> priviledges.
> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max 6.1.8 everything
> works fine
> on my system.
> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this regards?
> a
>
> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  ha
> scritto:
>
>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue (copied into
>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>>
>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage VSTs under
>> Ableton Live.
>> The current situation is that they work *until I authorize Live*, then
>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the plugin
>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different versions of
>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling UAC. Must run
>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be found in the
>> first place. The process is very repeatable and consistent....
>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any more. Live
>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and also using
>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show any such
>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so far has not
>> been successful.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi :
>> > Hi Rory,
>> >
>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it narrows the
>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then of some
>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>> >
>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket, but I forgot
>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~ both used
>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that. In Csound 6
>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the name), so I'll
>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the pthreadsGC2.dll.
>> > (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365 to keep
>> > track of that).
>> >
>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > steven
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread dll into
>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127. What
>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of Windows
>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route of quite
>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>> >>
>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> >>> Hi All,
>> >>>
>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for Csound6 is
>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.  (It's
>> >>> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).  We're
>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is that
>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are using Windows
>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>> >>>
>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?  It would
>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for Windows
>> >>>
>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After installing, copy
>> >>> the examples from the %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then open Max
>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder containing
>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>> >>>
>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the csound~
>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>> >>>
>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> steven
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Send bugs reports to
>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Send bugs reports to
>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> > csound"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> Professor of Music Technology
>> NTNU
>> 7491 Trondheim
>> Norway
>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>
>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to
>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>



-- 

Oeyvind Brandtsegg
Professor of Music Technology
NTNU
7491 Trondheim
Norway
Cell: +47 92 203 205

http://flyndresang.no/
http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
http://soundcloud.com/t-emp


Date2014-08-15 13:21
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
You could try Mike's latest installer:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
He is now using slightly different build options which helped
addressed some comparability issues users were having between
different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.

On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think it will
> not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be worth a try.
> It seems the problems on my system are also related to access
> permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or compatibility
> between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting compatibility
> mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark, but it
> matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set the
> compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll find a number
> of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode. In this
> dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which might grant
> the application more privileges.
> There are also a registry edit suggested here that might (or might not) help:
> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
> (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
> These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>
> 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone :
>> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> should i try to enable it?
>> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do with admin
>> priviledges.
>> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max 6.1.8 everything
>> works fine
>> on my system.
>> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this regards?
>> a
>>
>> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  ha
>> scritto:
>>
>>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue (copied into
>>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>>>
>>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage VSTs under
>>> Ableton Live.
>>> The current situation is that they work *until I authorize Live*, then
>>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the plugin
>>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different versions of
>>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling UAC. Must run
>>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be found in the
>>> first place. The process is very repeatable and consistent....
>>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any more. Live
>>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and also using
>>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show any such
>>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so far has not
>>> been successful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi :
>>> > Hi Rory,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it narrows the
>>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then of some
>>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>>> >
>>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket, but I forgot
>>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~ both used
>>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that. In Csound 6
>>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the name), so I'll
>>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the pthreadsGC2.dll.
>>> > (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365 to keep
>>> > track of that).
>>> >
>>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> > steven
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread dll into
>>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127. What
>>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
>>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of Windows
>>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route of quite
>>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> >>> Hi All,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for Csound6 is
>>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.  (It's
>>> >>> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).  We're
>>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is that
>>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are using Windows
>>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?  It would
>>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for Windows
>>> >>>
>>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After installing, copy
>>> >>> the examples from the %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then open Max
>>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder containing
>>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the csound~
>>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> steven
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Send bugs reports to
>>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Send bugs reports to
>>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> > csound"
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>> NTNU
>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>> Norway
>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>
>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
> Professor of Music Technology
> NTNU
> 7491 Trondheim
> Norway
> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>
> http://flyndresang.no/
> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>
>
> Send bugs reports to
>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>
>
>


Date2014-08-15 17:03
Fromalfonso santimone
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~

strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just work.

i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.

i'm on Win 7 Professional



On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
You could try Mike's latest installer:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
He is now using slightly different build options which helped
addressed some comparability issues users were having between
different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.

On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> wrote:
> I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think it will
> not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be worth a try.
> It seems the problems on my system are also related to access
> permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or compatibility
> between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting compatibility
> mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark, but it
> matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set the
> compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll find a number
> of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode. In this
> dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which might grant
> the application more privileges.
> There are also a registry edit suggested here that might (or might not) help:
> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
> (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
> These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>
> 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> should i try to enable it?
>> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do with admin
>> priviledges.
>> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max 6.1.8 everything
>> works fine
>> on my system.
>> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this regards?
>> a
>>
>> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha
>> scritto:
>>
>>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue (copied into
>>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>>>
>>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage VSTs under
>>> Ableton Live.
>>> The current situation is that they work *until I authorize Live*, then
>>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the plugin
>>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different versions of
>>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling UAC. Must run
>>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be found in the
>>> first place. The process is very repeatable and consistent....
>>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any more. Live
>>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and also using
>>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show any such
>>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so far has not
>>> been successful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>:
>>> > Hi Rory,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it narrows the
>>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then of some
>>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>>> >
>>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket, but I forgot
>>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~ both used
>>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that. In Csound 6
>>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the name), so I'll
>>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the pthreadsGC2.dll.
>>> > (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365 to keep
>>> > track of that).
>>> >
>>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> > steven
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread dll into
>>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127. What
>>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
>>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of Windows
>>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route of quite
>>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> Hi All,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for Csound6 is
>>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.  (It's
>>> >>> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).  We're
>>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is that
>>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are using Windows
>>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?  It would
>>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for Windows
>>> >>>
>>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After installing, copy
>>> >>> the examples from the %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then open Max
>>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder containing
>>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the csound~
>>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> steven
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Send bugs reports to
>>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Send bugs reports to
>>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> > csound"
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>> NTNU
>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>> Norway
>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>
>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
> Professor of Music Technology
> NTNU
> 7491 Trondheim
> Norway
> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>
> http://flyndresang.no/
> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>
>
> Send bugs reports to
>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>
>
>


Send bugs reports to
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Date2014-08-15 17:06
Fromalfonso santimone
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se but how csound~ 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)



On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~

strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just work.

i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.

i'm on Win 7 Professional



On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
You could try Mike's latest installer:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
He is now using slightly different build options which helped
addressed some comparability issues users were having between
different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.

On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> wrote:
> I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think it will
> not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be worth a try.
> It seems the problems on my system are also related to access
> permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or compatibility
> between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting compatibility
> mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark, but it
> matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set the
> compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll find a number
> of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode. In this
> dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which might grant
> the application more privileges.
> There are also a registry edit suggested here that might (or might not) help:
> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
> (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
> These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>
> 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> should i try to enable it?
>> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do with admin
>> priviledges.
>> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max 6.1.8 everything
>> works fine
>> on my system.
>> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this regards?
>> a
>>
>> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha
>> scritto:
>>
>>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue (copied into
>>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>>>
>>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage VSTs under
>>> Ableton Live.
>>> The current situation is that they work *until I authorize Live*, then
>>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the plugin
>>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different versions of
>>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling UAC. Must run
>>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be found in the
>>> first place. The process is very repeatable and consistent....
>>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any more. Live
>>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and also using
>>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show any such
>>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so far has not
>>> been successful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>:
>>> > Hi Rory,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it narrows the
>>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then of some
>>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>>> >
>>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket, but I forgot
>>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~ both used
>>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that. In Csound 6
>>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the name), so I'll
>>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the pthreadsGC2.dll.
>>> > (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365 to keep
>>> > track of that).
>>> >
>>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> > steven
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread dll into
>>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127. What
>>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
>>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of Windows
>>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route of quite
>>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> Hi All,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for Csound6 is
>>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.  (It's
>>> >>> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).  We're
>>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is that
>>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are using Windows
>>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?  It would
>>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for Windows
>>> >>>
>>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After installing, copy
>>> >>> the examples from the %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then open Max
>>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder containing
>>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the csound~
>>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> steven
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Send bugs reports to
>>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Send bugs reports to
>>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> > csound"
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>> NTNU
>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>> Norway
>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>
>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
> Professor of Music Technology
> NTNU
> 7491 Trondheim
> Norway
> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>
> http://flyndresang.no/
> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>
>
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Date2014-08-15 17:34
Fromalfonso santimone
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the (experimental) Cabbage 64 and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
VST works perfectly
then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and load it in Ableton 32 bit.
Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
..mhh...



On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se but how csound~ 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)



On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~

strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just work.

i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.

i'm on Win 7 Professional



On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
You could try Mike's latest installer:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
He is now using slightly different build options which helped
addressed some comparability issues users were having between
different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.

On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> wrote:
> I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think it will
> not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be worth a try.
> It seems the problems on my system are also related to access
> permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or compatibility
> between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting compatibility
> mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark, but it
> matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set the
> compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll find a number
> of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode. In this
> dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which might grant
> the application more privileges.
> There are also a registry edit suggested here that might (or might not) help:
> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
> (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
> These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>
> 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> should i try to enable it?
>> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do with admin
>> priviledges.
>> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max 6.1.8 everything
>> works fine
>> on my system.
>> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this regards?
>> a
>>
>> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha
>> scritto:
>>
>>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue (copied into
>>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>>>
>>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage VSTs under
>>> Ableton Live.
>>> The current situation is that they work *until I authorize Live*, then
>>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the plugin
>>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different versions of
>>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling UAC. Must run
>>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be found in the
>>> first place. The process is very repeatable and consistent....
>>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any more. Live
>>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and also using
>>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show any such
>>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so far has not
>>> been successful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>:
>>> > Hi Rory,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it narrows the
>>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then of some
>>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>>> >
>>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket, but I forgot
>>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~ both used
>>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that. In Csound 6
>>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the name), so I'll
>>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the pthreadsGC2.dll.
>>> > (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365 to keep
>>> > track of that).
>>> >
>>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> > steven
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread dll into
>>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127. What
>>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
>>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of Windows
>>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route of quite
>>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> Hi All,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for Csound6 is
>>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.  (It's
>>> >>> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).  We're
>>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is that
>>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are using Windows
>>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?  It would
>>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for Windows
>>> >>>
>>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After installing, copy
>>> >>> the examples from the %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then open Max
>>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder containing
>>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the csound~
>>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> steven
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Send bugs reports to
>>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Send bugs reports to
>>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> > csound"
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>> NTNU
>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>> Norway
>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>
>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
> Professor of Music Technology
> NTNU
> 7491 Trondheim
> Norway
> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>
> http://flyndresang.no/
> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>
>
> Send bugs reports to
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Date2014-08-15 17:47
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by side or how does
this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?

On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone  wrote:
> Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
> strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the (experimental) Cabbage 64
> and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
> VST works perfectly
> then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and load it in Ableton 32
> bit.
> Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
> ..mhh...
>
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>  wrote:
>>
>> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se but how csound~
>> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>>
>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>>>
>>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just work.
>>>
>>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>>>
>>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>>>
>>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>>>> He is now using slightly different build options which helped
>>>> addressed some comparability issues users were having between
>>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.
>>>>
>>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think it will
>>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be worth a try.
>>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also related to access
>>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or compatibility
>>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting compatibility
>>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark, but it
>>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set the
>>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll find a number
>>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode. In this
>>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which might grant
>>>> > the application more privileges.
>>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here that might (or might
>>>> > not) help:
>>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>>>> > (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>>>> >
>>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>>>> > :
>>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do with admin
>>>> >> priviledges.
>>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max 6.1.8
>>>> >> everything
>>>> >> works fine
>>>> >> on my system.
>>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this regards?
>>>> >> a
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> >>  ha
>>>> >> scritto:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue (copied into
>>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage VSTs under
>>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until I authorize Live*,
>>>> >>> then
>>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the plugin
>>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different versions of
>>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling UAC. Must
>>>> >>> run
>>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be found in the
>>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and consistent....
>>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any more. Live
>>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and also using
>>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show any such
>>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so far has not
>>>> >>> been successful.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi :
>>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it narrows
>>>> >>> > the
>>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then of some
>>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket, but I
>>>> >>> > forgot
>>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~ both
>>>> >>> > used
>>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that. In
>>>> >>> > Csound 6
>>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the name), so
>>>> >>> > I'll
>>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the
>>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>>>> >>> > (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365 to keep
>>>> >>> > track of that).
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Thanks!
>>>> >>> > steven
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh 
>>>> >>> > wrote:
>>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread dll
>>>> >>> >> into
>>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127.
>>>> >>> >> What
>>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
>>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of
>>>> >>> >> Windows
>>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route of
>>>> >>> >> quite
>>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for
>>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.
>>>> >>> >>> (It's
>>>> >>> >>> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>>>> >>> >>> We're
>>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is that
>>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are using
>>>> >>> >>> Windows
>>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?  It
>>>> >>> >>> would
>>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for
>>>> >>> >>> Windows
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After
>>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then open
>>>> >>> >>> Max
>>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder
>>>> >>> >>> containing
>>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the
>>>> >>> >>> csound~
>>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>>>> >>> >>> steven
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>>>> >>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> >>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> >>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> Send bugs reports to
>>>> >>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> >>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> >>> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Send bugs reports to
>>>> >>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> >>> > "unsubscribe
>>>> >>> > csound"
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>> >>> NTNU
>>>> >>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>> >>> Norway
>>>> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>> >>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>>>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> >>> "unsubscribe
>>>> >>> csound"
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> > Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> > Professor of Music Technology
>>>> > NTNU
>>>> > 7491 Trondheim
>>>> > Norway
>>>> > Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>> >
>>>> > http://flyndresang.no/
>>>> > http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>> > http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>> > http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Send bugs reports to
>>>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> > "unsubscribe csound"
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


Date2014-08-15 18:08
Fromalfonso santimone
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
They work just fine.
Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST ( other 32 bit VST are correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )



On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by side or how does
this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?

On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
> strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the (experimental) Cabbage 64
> and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
> VST works perfectly
> then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and load it in Ableton 32
> bit.
> Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
> ..mhh...
>
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se but how csound~
>> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>>
>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>>>
>>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just work.
>>>
>>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>>>
>>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>>>
>>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>>>> He is now using slightly different build options which helped
>>>> addressed some comparability issues users were having between
>>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.
>>>>
>>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think it will
>>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be worth a try.
>>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also related to access
>>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or compatibility
>>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting compatibility
>>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark, but it
>>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set the
>>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll find a number
>>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode. In this
>>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which might grant
>>>> > the application more privileges.
>>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here that might (or might
>>>> > not) help:
>>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>>>> > (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>>>> >
>>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>>>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do with admin
>>>> >> priviledges.
>>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max 6.1.8
>>>> >> everything
>>>> >> works fine
>>>> >> on my system.
>>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this regards?
>>>> >> a
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> >> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha
>>>> >> scritto:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue (copied into
>>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage VSTs under
>>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until I authorize Live*,
>>>> >>> then
>>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the plugin
>>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different versions of
>>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling UAC. Must
>>>> >>> run
>>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be found in the
>>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and consistent....
>>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any more. Live
>>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and also using
>>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show any such
>>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so far has not
>>>> >>> been successful.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>:
>>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it narrows
>>>> >>> > the
>>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then of some
>>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket, but I
>>>> >>> > forgot
>>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~ both
>>>> >>> > used
>>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that. In
>>>> >>> > Csound 6
>>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the name), so
>>>> >>> > I'll
>>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the
>>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>>>> >>> > (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365 to keep
>>>> >>> > track of that).
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Thanks!
>>>> >>> > steven
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>>>> >>> > wrote:
>>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread dll
>>>> >>> >> into
>>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127.
>>>> >>> >> What
>>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
>>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of
>>>> >>> >> Windows
>>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route of
>>>> >>> >> quite
>>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for
>>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.
>>>> >>> >>> (It's
>>>> >>> >>> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>>>> >>> >>> We're
>>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is that
>>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are using
>>>> >>> >>> Windows
>>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?  It
>>>> >>> >>> would
>>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for
>>>> >>> >>> Windows
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After
>>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then open
>>>> >>> >>> Max
>>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder
>>>> >>> >>> containing
>>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the
>>>> >>> >>> csound~
>>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>>>> >>> >>> steven
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>>>> >>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> >>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> >>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> Send bugs reports to
>>>> >>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> >>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> >>> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Send bugs reports to
>>>> >>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> >>> > "unsubscribe
>>>> >>> > csound"
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>> >>> NTNU
>>>> >>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>> >>> Norway
>>>> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>> >>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>>>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> >>> "unsubscribe
>>>> >>> csound"
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> > Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> > Professor of Music Technology
>>>> > NTNU
>>>> > 7491 Trondheim
>>>> > Norway
>>>> > Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>> >
>>>> > http://flyndresang.no/
>>>> > http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>> > http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>> > http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Send bugs reports to
>>>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> > "unsubscribe csound"
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


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Date2014-08-15 19:02
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the 32 Cabbage
plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up of Windows at
this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I constantly
encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to destroy my main
user profile. And the "solution" recommended by Microsoft is to create
a new user profile and start copying things manually from one account
to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And their
official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might not read your
user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I understand that
for most people everything works fine :)

On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone  wrote:
> I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
> They work just fine.
> Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST ( other 32 bit VST are
> correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )
>
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>
>> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by side or how does
>> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>>
>> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone 
>> wrote:
>> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the (experimental) Cabbage
>> > 64
>> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>> > VST works perfectly
>> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and load it in
>> > Ableton 32
>> > bit.
>> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>> > ..mhh...
>> >
>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se but how csound~
>> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>> >>
>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>> >>>
>> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just work.
>> >>>
>> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>> >>>
>> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>> >>>
>> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options which helped
>> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were having between
>> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think it will
>> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be worth a try.
>> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also related to access
>> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or compatibility
>> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting
>> >>>> > compatibility
>> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark, but it
>> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set the
>> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll find a
>> >>>> > number
>> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode. In this
>> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which might
>> >>>> > grant
>> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here that might (or might
>> >>>> > not) help:
>> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>> >>>> > (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >>>> > :
>> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do with admin
>> >>>> >> priviledges.
>> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max 6.1.8
>> >>>> >> everything
>> >>>> >> works fine
>> >>>> >> on my system.
>> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this regards?
>> >>>> >> a
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> >>  ha
>> >>>> >> scritto:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue (copied into
>> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage VSTs
>> >>>> >>> under
>> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until I authorize Live*,
>> >>>> >>> then
>> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the plugin
>> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different versions
>> >>>> >>> of
>> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling UAC. Must
>> >>>> >>> run
>> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be found in
>> >>>> >>> the
>> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and consistent....
>> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any more.
>> >>>> >>> Live
>> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and also
>> >>>> >>> using
>> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show any such
>> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so far has
>> >>>> >>> not
>> >>>> >>> been successful.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi :
>> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it
>> >>>> >>> > narrows
>> >>>> >>> > the
>> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then of
>> >>>> >>> > some
>> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket, but I
>> >>>> >>> > forgot
>> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~ both
>> >>>> >>> > used
>> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that. In
>> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the name), so
>> >>>> >>> > I'll
>> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the
>> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>> >>>> >>> > (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365 to
>> >>>> >>> > keep
>> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>> >>>> >>> > steven
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh 
>> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread
>> >>>> >>> >> dll
>> >>>> >>> >> into
>> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127.
>> >>>> >>> >> What
>> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
>> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of
>> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route
>> >>>> >>> >> of
>> >>>> >>> >> quite
>> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for
>> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.
>> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is
>> >>>> >>> >>> that
>> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are
>> >>>> >>> >>> using
>> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?
>> >>>> >>> >>> It
>> >>>> >>> >>> would
>> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for
>> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After
>> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then
>> >>>> >>> >>> open
>> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder
>> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the
>> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> >>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> >>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >> Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> >>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> >>> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> >>> > "unsubscribe
>> >>>> >>> > csound"
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> --
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>> >>>> >>> NTNU
>> >>>> >>> 7491 Trondheim
>> >>>> >>> Norway
>> >>>> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> >>>> >>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> >>> "unsubscribe
>> >>>> >>> csound"
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> --
>> >>>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > --
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> > Professor of Music Technology
>> >>>> > NTNU
>> >>>> > 7491 Trondheim
>> >>>> > Norway
>> >>>> > Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > http://flyndresang.no/
>> >>>> > http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> > "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> "unsubscribe
>> >>>> csound"
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to
>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>>
>>
>>
>


Date2014-08-15 19:08
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The only reason I have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the maintainer of the Windows installer for Csound.

Regards,
Mike


-----------------------------------------------------
Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the 32 Cabbage
plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up of Windows at
this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I constantly
encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to destroy my main
user profile. And the "solution" recommended by Microsoft is to create
a new user profile and start copying things manually from one account
to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And their
official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might not read your
user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I understand that
for most people everything works fine :)

On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
> They work just fine.
> Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST ( other 32 bit VST are
> correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )
>
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>
>> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by side or how does
>> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>>
>> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the (experimental) Cabbage
>> > 64
>> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>> > VST works perfectly
>> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and load it in
>> > Ableton 32
>> > bit.
>> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>> > ..mhh...
>> >
>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se but how csound~
>> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>> >>
>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>> >>>
>> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just work.
>> >>>
>> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>> >>>
>> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>> >>>
>> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options which helped
>> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were having between
>> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think it will
>> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be worth a try.
>> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also related to access
>> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or compatibility
>> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting
>> >>>> > compatibility
>> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark, but it
>> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set the
>> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll find a
>> >>>> > number
>> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode. In this
>> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which might
>> >>>> > grant
>> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here that might (or might
>> >>>> > not) help:
>> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>> >>>> > (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >>>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do with admin
>> >>>> >> priviledges.
>> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max 6.1.8
>> >>>> >> everything
>> >>>> >> works fine
>> >>>> >> on my system.
>> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this regards?
>> >>>> >> a
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> >> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha
>> >>>> >> scritto:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue (copied into
>> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage VSTs
>> >>>> >>> under
>> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until I authorize Live*,
>> >>>> >>> then
>> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the plugin
>> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different versions
>> >>>> >>> of
>> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling UAC. Must
>> >>>> >>> run
>> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be found in
>> >>>> >>> the
>> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and consistent....
>> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any more.
>> >>>> >>> Live
>> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and also
>> >>>> >>> using
>> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show any such
>> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so far has
>> >>>> >>> not
>> >>>> >>> been successful.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>:
>> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it
>> >>>> >>> > narrows
>> >>>> >>> > the
>> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then of
>> >>>> >>> > some
>> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket, but I
>> >>>> >>> > forgot
>> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~ both
>> >>>> >>> > used
>> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that. In
>> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the name), so
>> >>>> >>> > I'll
>> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the
>> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>> >>>> >>> > (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365 to
>> >>>> >>> > keep
>> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>> >>>> >>> > steven
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread
>> >>>> >>> >> dll
>> >>>> >>> >> into
>> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127.
>> >>>> >>> >> What
>> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
>> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of
>> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route
>> >>>> >>> >> of
>> >>>> >>> >> quite
>> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for
>> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.
>> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is
>> >>>> >>> >>> that
>> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are
>> >>>> >>> >>> using
>> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?
>> >>>> >>> >>> It
>> >>>> >>> >>> would
>> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for
>> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After
>> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then
>> >>>> >>> >>> open
>> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder
>> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the
>> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> >>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> >>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >> Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> >>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> >>> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> >>> > "unsubscribe
>> >>>> >>> > csound"
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> --
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>> >>>> >>> NTNU
>> >>>> >>> 7491 Trondheim
>> >>>> >>> Norway
>> >>>> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> >>>> >>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> >>> "unsubscribe
>> >>>> >>> csound"
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> --
>> >>>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > --
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> > Professor of Music Technology
>> >>>> > NTNU
>> >>>> > 7491 Trondheim
>> >>>> > Norway
>> >>>> > Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > http://flyndresang.no/
>> >>>> > http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> > "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> "unsubscribe
>> >>>> csound"
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
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Date2014-08-15 19:15
Fromalfonso santimone
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
basically i'm on windows because i can have more powerful machine at lower cost.
i admit that i've got very few problems.
this thing about csound is one of them.
but given csound is such a complex project it's normal that some system have some weak point.
Rory are you using latest Mike csound installer as i do now?
or the "regular" 6.03.2 ?

thanks



On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The only reason I have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the maintainer of the Windows installer for Csound.

Regards,
Mike


-----------------------------------------------------
Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the 32 Cabbage
plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up of Windows at
this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I constantly
encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to destroy my main
user profile. And the "solution" recommended by Microsoft is to create
a new user profile and start copying things manually from one account
to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And their
official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might not read your
user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I understand that
for most people everything works fine :)

On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
> They work just fine.
> Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST ( other 32 bit VST are
> correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )
>
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>
>> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by side or how does
>> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>>
>> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the (experimental) Cabbage
>> > 64
>> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>> > VST works perfectly
>> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and load it in
>> > Ableton 32
>> > bit.
>> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>> > ..mhh...
>> >
>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se but how csound~
>> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>> >>
>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>> >>>
>> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just work.
>> >>>
>> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>> >>>
>> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>> >>>
>> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options which helped
>> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were having between
>> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think it will
>> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be worth a try.
>> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also related to access
>> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or compatibility
>> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting
>> >>>> > compatibility
>> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark, but it
>> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set the
>> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll find a
>> >>>> > number
>> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode. In this
>> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which might
>> >>>> > grant
>> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here that might (or might
>> >>>> > not) help:
>> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>> >>>> > (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >>>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do with admin
>> >>>> >> priviledges.
>> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max 6.1.8
>> >>>> >> everything
>> >>>> >> works fine
>> >>>> >> on my system.
>> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this regards?
>> >>>> >> a
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> >> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha
>> >>>> >> scritto:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue (copied into
>> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage VSTs
>> >>>> >>> under
>> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until I authorize Live*,
>> >>>> >>> then
>> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the plugin
>> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different versions
>> >>>> >>> of
>> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling UAC. Must
>> >>>> >>> run
>> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be found in
>> >>>> >>> the
>> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and consistent....
>> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any more.
>> >>>> >>> Live
>> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and also
>> >>>> >>> using
>> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show any such
>> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so far has
>> >>>> >>> not
>> >>>> >>> been successful.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>:
>> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it
>> >>>> >>> > narrows
>> >>>> >>> > the
>> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then of
>> >>>> >>> > some
>> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket, but I
>> >>>> >>> > forgot
>> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~ both
>> >>>> >>> > used
>> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that. In
>> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the name), so
>> >>>> >>> > I'll
>> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the
>> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>> >>>> >>> > (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365 to
>> >>>> >>> > keep
>> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>> >>>> >>> > steven
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread
>> >>>> >>> >> dll
>> >>>> >>> >> into
>> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127.
>> >>>> >>> >> What
>> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
>> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of
>> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route
>> >>>> >>> >> of
>> >>>> >>> >> quite
>> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for
>> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.
>> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is
>> >>>> >>> >>> that
>> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are
>> >>>> >>> >>> using
>> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?
>> >>>> >>> >>> It
>> >>>> >>> >>> would
>> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for
>> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After
>> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then
>> >>>> >>> >>> open
>> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder
>> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the
>> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> >>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> >>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >> Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> >>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> >>> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> >>> > "unsubscribe
>> >>>> >>> > csound"
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> --
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>> >>>> >>> NTNU
>> >>>> >>> 7491 Trondheim
>> >>>> >>> Norway
>> >>>> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> >>>> >>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> >>> "unsubscribe
>> >>>> >>> csound"
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> --
>> >>>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > --
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> > Professor of Music Technology
>> >>>> > NTNU
>> >>>> > 7491 Trondheim
>> >>>> > Norway
>> >>>> > Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > http://flyndresang.no/
>> >>>> > http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Send bugs reports to
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Date2014-08-15 19:20
Fromalfonso santimone
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
ops..sorry Reaper sees the 32 bit VST ( i've put it in the wrong folder )
Ableton 32 bit still does not see it.
I wonder if the reasons why are similar to those that give me the problem about csound~.
Still i want to report that i have no problems with csound~ 1.1.0 ( using csound 5 ).
What's changed that can give problems?



On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
basically i'm on windows because i can have more powerful machine at lower cost.
i admit that i've got very few problems.
this thing about csound is one of them.
but given csound is such a complex project it's normal that some system have some weak point.
Rory are you using latest Mike csound installer as i do now?
or the "regular" 6.03.2 ?

thanks



On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The only reason I have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the maintainer of the Windows installer for Csound.

Regards,
Mike


-----------------------------------------------------
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Irreducible Productions
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Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the 32 Cabbage
plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up of Windows at
this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I constantly
encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to destroy my main
user profile. And the "solution" recommended by Microsoft is to create
a new user profile and start copying things manually from one account
to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And their
official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might not read your
user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I understand that
for most people everything works fine :)

On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
> They work just fine.
> Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST ( other 32 bit VST are
> correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )
>
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>
>> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by side or how does
>> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>>
>> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the (experimental) Cabbage
>> > 64
>> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>> > VST works perfectly
>> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and load it in
>> > Ableton 32
>> > bit.
>> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>> > ..mhh...
>> >
>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se but how csound~
>> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>> >>
>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>> >>>
>> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just work.
>> >>>
>> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>> >>>
>> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>> >>>
>> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options which helped
>> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were having between
>> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think it will
>> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be worth a try.
>> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also related to access
>> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or compatibility
>> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting
>> >>>> > compatibility
>> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark, but it
>> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set the
>> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll find a
>> >>>> > number
>> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode. In this
>> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which might
>> >>>> > grant
>> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here that might (or might
>> >>>> > not) help:
>> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>> >>>> > (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >>>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do with admin
>> >>>> >> priviledges.
>> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max 6.1.8
>> >>>> >> everything
>> >>>> >> works fine
>> >>>> >> on my system.
>> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this regards?
>> >>>> >> a
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> >> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha
>> >>>> >> scritto:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue (copied into
>> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage VSTs
>> >>>> >>> under
>> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until I authorize Live*,
>> >>>> >>> then
>> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the plugin
>> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different versions
>> >>>> >>> of
>> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling UAC. Must
>> >>>> >>> run
>> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be found in
>> >>>> >>> the
>> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and consistent....
>> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any more.
>> >>>> >>> Live
>> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and also
>> >>>> >>> using
>> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show any such
>> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so far has
>> >>>> >>> not
>> >>>> >>> been successful.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>:
>> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it
>> >>>> >>> > narrows
>> >>>> >>> > the
>> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then of
>> >>>> >>> > some
>> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket, but I
>> >>>> >>> > forgot
>> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~ both
>> >>>> >>> > used
>> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that. In
>> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the name), so
>> >>>> >>> > I'll
>> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the
>> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>> >>>> >>> > (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365 to
>> >>>> >>> > keep
>> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>> >>>> >>> > steven
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a pthread
>> >>>> >>> >> dll
>> >>>> >>> >> into
>> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error 127.
>> >>>> >>> >> What
>> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and Oeyvind are
>> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise version of
>> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the route
>> >>>> >>> >> of
>> >>>> >>> >> quite
>> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~ for
>> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my own.
>> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable is
>> >>>> >>> >>> that
>> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are
>> >>>> >>> >>> using
>> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose this?
>> >>>> >>> >>> It
>> >>>> >>> >>> would
>> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2 for
>> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After
>> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is, then
>> >>>> >>> >>> open
>> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the folder
>> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to load the
>> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to
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>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >> Send bugs reports to
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>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >
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>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> --
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>> >>>> >>> NTNU
>> >>>> >>> 7491 Trondheim
>> >>>> >>> Norway
>> >>>> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> >>>> >>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
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>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> --
>> >>>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > --
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> > Professor of Music Technology
>> >>>> > NTNU
>> >>>> > 7491 Trondheim
>> >>>> > Norway
>> >>>> > Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > http://flyndresang.no/
>> >>>> > http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
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Date2014-08-15 20:26
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
I am using my own build of Csound, but yesterday I tried csound~ with
Mike's package both old and new and it worked fine. Btw, I now have a
version of Live 32bit and it sees my Cabbage32 plugins without a
problem. This is odd, because I think we are both using the exact same
operating systems!

On 15 August 2014 20:20, alfonso santimone  wrote:
> ops..sorry Reaper sees the 32 bit VST ( i've put it in the wrong folder )
> Ableton 32 bit still does not see it.
> I wonder if the reasons why are similar to those that give me the problem
> about csound~.
> Still i want to report that i have no problems with csound~ 1.1.0 ( using
> csound 5 ).
> What's changed that can give problems?
>
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM, alfonso santimone
>  wrote:
>>
>> basically i'm on windows because i can have more powerful machine at lower
>> cost.
>> i admit that i've got very few problems.
>> this thing about csound is one of them.
>> but given csound is such a complex project it's normal that some system
>> have some weak point.
>> Rory are you using latest Mike csound installer as i do now?
>> or the "regular" 6.03.2 ?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Michael Gogins 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The only reason I
>>> have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the maintainer of the
>>> Windows installer for Csound.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>> Michael Gogins
>>> Irreducible Productions
>>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the 32 Cabbage
>>>> plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up of Windows at
>>>> this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I constantly
>>>> encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to destroy my main
>>>> user profile. And the "solution" recommended by Microsoft is to create
>>>> a new user profile and start copying things manually from one account
>>>> to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And their
>>>> official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might not read your
>>>> user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I understand that
>>>> for most people everything works fine :)
>>>>
>>>> On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
>>>> > They work just fine.
>>>> > Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST ( other 32 bit
>>>> > VST are
>>>> > correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )
>>>> >
>>>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by side or how does
>>>> >> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>>>> >> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the (experimental)
>>>> >> > Cabbage
>>>> >> > 64
>>>> >> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>>>> >> > VST works perfectly
>>>> >> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and load it in
>>>> >> > Ableton 32
>>>> >> > bit.
>>>> >> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>>>> >> > ..mhh...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>>>> >> >  wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>>>> >> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se but how
>>>> >> >> csound~
>>>> >> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>>>> >> >>  wrote:
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>>>> >> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just work.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>>> >> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh 
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>>>> >> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options which helped
>>>> >> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were having between
>>>> >> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> >> >>>> 
>>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think it
>>>> >> >>>> > will
>>>> >> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be worth a
>>>> >> >>>> > try.
>>>> >> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also related to access
>>>> >> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or
>>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>>>> >> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting
>>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>>>> >> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark, but
>>>> >> >>>> > it
>>>> >> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set the
>>>> >> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll find
>>>> >> >>>> > a
>>>> >> >>>> > number
>>>> >> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode. In
>>>> >> >>>> > this
>>>> >> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which
>>>> >> >>>> > might
>>>> >> >>>> > grant
>>>> >> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>>>> >> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here that might (or
>>>> >> >>>> > might
>>>> >> >>>> > not) help:
>>>> >> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>>>> >> >>>> > (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>>>> >> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>>>> >> >>>> >
>>>> >> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>>>> >> >>>> > :
>>>> >> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>>>> >> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>>>> >> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do with
>>>> >> >>>> >> admin
>>>> >> >>>> >> priviledges.
>>>> >> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max
>>>> >> >>>> >> 6.1.8
>>>> >> >>>> >> everything
>>>> >> >>>> >> works fine
>>>> >> >>>> >> on my system.
>>>> >> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this
>>>> >> >>>> >> regards?
>>>> >> >>>> >> a
>>>> >> >>>> >>
>>>> >> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> >> >>>> >>  ha
>>>> >> >>>> >> scritto:
>>>> >> >>>> >>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>>>> >> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue (copied
>>>> >> >>>> >>> into
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage
>>>> >> >>>> >>> VSTs
>>>> >> >>>> >>> under
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until I authorize
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Live*,
>>>> >> >>>> >>> then
>>>> >> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> plugin
>>>> >> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different
>>>> >> >>>> >>> versions
>>>> >> >>>> >>> of
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling UAC.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Must
>>>> >> >>>> >>> run
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be
>>>> >> >>>> >>> found in
>>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and
>>>> >> >>>> >>> consistent....
>>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any
>>>> >> >>>> >>> more.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Live
>>>> >> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and also
>>>> >> >>>> >>> using
>>>> >> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show any
>>>> >> >>>> >>> such
>>>> >> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so far
>>>> >> >>>> >>> has
>>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>>>> >> >>>> >>> been successful.
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi :
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > narrows
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > of
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > some
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket,
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > but I
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > forgot
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > both
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > used
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > In
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > name), so
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > I'll
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > to
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > keep
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > steven
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > 
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> pthread
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> dll
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> into
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 127.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> What
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Oeyvind are
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> route
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> of
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> quite
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi 
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> own.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> that
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> using
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> this?
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> It
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> would
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is,
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> then
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> open
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> load the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> body
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Send bugs reports to
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> body
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > Send bugs reports to
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > body
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > "unsubscribe
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > csound"
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> --
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>> >> >>>> >>> NTNU
>>>> >> >>>> >>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Norway
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>> >> >>>> >>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>> >> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>> >> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>>>> >> >>>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >> >>>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> >> >>>> >>> "unsubscribe
>>>> >> >>>> >>> csound"
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>
>>>> >> >>>> >>
>>>> >> >>>> >> --
>>>> >> >>>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>>> >> >>>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> >>>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> >>>> >>
>>>> >> >>>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >
>>>> >> >>>> > --
>>>> >> >>>> >
>>>> >> >>>> > Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> >> >>>> > Professor of Music Technology
>>>> >> >>>> > NTNU
>>>> >> >>>> > 7491 Trondheim
>>>> >> >>>> > Norway
>>>> >> >>>> > Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>> >> >>>> >
>>>> >> >>>> > http://flyndresang.no/
>>>> >> >>>> > http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>> >> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>> >> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>> >> >>>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >
>>>> >> >>>> > Send bugs reports to
>>>> >> >>>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> >> >>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >> >>>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> >> >>>> > "unsubscribe csound"
>>>> >> >>>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>> >> >>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> >> >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >> >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> >> >>>> "unsubscribe
>>>> >> >>>> csound"
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Send bugs reports to
>>>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> >> "unsubscribe
>>>> >> csound"
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


Date2014-08-15 20:43
Fromalfonso santimone
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
i'm really confused!
don't understand what does not work on my side



On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
I am using my own build of Csound, but yesterday I tried csound~ with
Mike's package both old and new and it worked fine. Btw, I now have a
version of Live 32bit and it sees my Cabbage32 plugins without a
problem. This is odd, because I think we are both using the exact same
operating systems!

On 15 August 2014 20:20, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
> ops..sorry Reaper sees the 32 bit VST ( i've put it in the wrong folder )
> Ableton 32 bit still does not see it.
> I wonder if the reasons why are similar to those that give me the problem
> about csound~.
> Still i want to report that i have no problems with csound~ 1.1.0 ( using
> csound 5 ).
> What's changed that can give problems?
>
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM, alfonso santimone
> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> basically i'm on windows because i can have more powerful machine at lower
>> cost.
>> i admit that i've got very few problems.
>> this thing about csound is one of them.
>> but given csound is such a complex project it's normal that some system
>> have some weak point.
>> Rory are you using latest Mike csound installer as i do now?
>> or the "regular" 6.03.2 ?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The only reason I
>>> have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the maintainer of the
>>> Windows installer for Csound.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>> Michael Gogins
>>> Irreducible Productions
>>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the 32 Cabbage
>>>> plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up of Windows at
>>>> this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I constantly
>>>> encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to destroy my main
>>>> user profile. And the "solution" recommended by Microsoft is to create
>>>> a new user profile and start copying things manually from one account
>>>> to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And their
>>>> official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might not read your
>>>> user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I understand that
>>>> for most people everything works fine :)
>>>>
>>>> On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
>>>> > They work just fine.
>>>> > Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST ( other 32 bit
>>>> > VST are
>>>> > correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )
>>>> >
>>>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by side or how does
>>>> >> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone
>>>> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>>>> >> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the (experimental)
>>>> >> > Cabbage
>>>> >> > 64
>>>> >> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>>>> >> > VST works perfectly
>>>> >> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and load it in
>>>> >> > Ableton 32
>>>> >> > bit.
>>>> >> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>>>> >> > ..mhh...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>>>> >> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>>>> >> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se but how
>>>> >> >> csound~
>>>> >> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>>>> >> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>>>> >> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just work.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>>> >> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>>>> >> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options which helped
>>>> >> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were having between
>>>> >> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> >> >>>> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no>
>>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think it
>>>> >> >>>> > will
>>>> >> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be worth a
>>>> >> >>>> > try.
>>>> >> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also related to access
>>>> >> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or
>>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>>>> >> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting
>>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>>>> >> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark, but
>>>> >> >>>> > it
>>>> >> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set the
>>>> >> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll find
>>>> >> >>>> > a
>>>> >> >>>> > number
>>>> >> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode. In
>>>> >> >>>> > this
>>>> >> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which
>>>> >> >>>> > might
>>>> >> >>>> > grant
>>>> >> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>>>> >> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here that might (or
>>>> >> >>>> > might
>>>> >> >>>> > not) help:
>>>> >> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>>>> >> >>>> > (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>>>> >> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>>>> >> >>>> >
>>>> >> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>>>> >> >>>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>>>> >> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>>>> >> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>>>> >> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do with
>>>> >> >>>> >> admin
>>>> >> >>>> >> priviledges.
>>>> >> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max
>>>> >> >>>> >> 6.1.8
>>>> >> >>>> >> everything
>>>> >> >>>> >> works fine
>>>> >> >>>> >> on my system.
>>>> >> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this
>>>> >> >>>> >> regards?
>>>> >> >>>> >> a
>>>> >> >>>> >>
>>>> >> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> >> >>>> >> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha
>>>> >> >>>> >> scritto:
>>>> >> >>>> >>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>>>> >> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue (copied
>>>> >> >>>> >>> into
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage
>>>> >> >>>> >>> VSTs
>>>> >> >>>> >>> under
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until I authorize
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Live*,
>>>> >> >>>> >>> then
>>>> >> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> plugin
>>>> >> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different
>>>> >> >>>> >>> versions
>>>> >> >>>> >>> of
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling UAC.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Must
>>>> >> >>>> >>> run
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be
>>>> >> >>>> >>> found in
>>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and
>>>> >> >>>> >>> consistent....
>>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any
>>>> >> >>>> >>> more.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> Live
>>>> >> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and also
>>>> >> >>>> >>> using
>>>> >> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show any
>>>> >> >>>> >>> such
>>>> >> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so far
>>>> >> >>>> >>> has
>>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>>>> >> >>>> >>> been successful.
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>:
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there, it
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > narrows
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue then
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > of
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > some
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the ticket,
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > but I
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > forgot
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and csound~
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > both
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > used
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute that.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > In
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > name), so
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > I'll
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > (I just added https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > to
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > keep
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > steven
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> pthread
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> dll
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> into
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an error
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 127.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> What
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Oeyvind are
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> route
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> of
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> quite
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why csound~
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on my
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> own.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One variable
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> that
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I are
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> using
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us diagnose
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> this?
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> It
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> would
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows 32-bit
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound 6.03.2
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is,
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> then
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> open
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> load the
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to
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Date2014-08-19 08:11
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
Hi Alfonso,
Could you try this to make Live 32 bit see the VST plugins:

1.  Find the exe, (in C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9 Suite\Program on
my machine),
- right click, select properties
- go to the compatibility tab, check  "run in compatibility mode" and
select "Windows XP Service pack 2" as the mode
- also tick "run as admin while you're on that tab

After this, you should be able to find the plugins.

Another thing to try is a complete uninstall/reinstall of Live, and
testing of it works before authorization of Live (as is the case on my
system).
To do this, take care to clean out all references to Live on the
computer before re-installing.
1. Uninstall
2. Delete the folders:
 - C:\ProgramData\Ableton
- C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Ableton
3. Re-install Live
- do NOT authorize when you start Live
4. try to find and use the plugins
- if it works, try to authorize, ... then wait for a few minutes,
restart Live and try to use the plugins again




2014-08-15 21:43 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone :
> i'm really confused!
> don't understand what does not work on my side
>
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>
>> I am using my own build of Csound, but yesterday I tried csound~ with
>> Mike's package both old and new and it worked fine. Btw, I now have a
>> version of Live 32bit and it sees my Cabbage32 plugins without a
>> problem. This is odd, because I think we are both using the exact same
>> operating systems!
>>
>> On 15 August 2014 20:20, alfonso santimone 
>> wrote:
>> > ops..sorry Reaper sees the 32 bit VST ( i've put it in the wrong folder
>> > )
>> > Ableton 32 bit still does not see it.
>> > I wonder if the reasons why are similar to those that give me the
>> > problem
>> > about csound~.
>> > Still i want to report that i have no problems with csound~ 1.1.0 (
>> > using
>> > csound 5 ).
>> > What's changed that can give problems?
>> >
>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> basically i'm on windows because i can have more powerful machine at
>> >> lower
>> >> cost.
>> >> i admit that i've got very few problems.
>> >> this thing about csound is one of them.
>> >> but given csound is such a complex project it's normal that some system
>> >> have some weak point.
>> >> Rory are you using latest Mike csound installer as i do now?
>> >> or the "regular" 6.03.2 ?
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >>
>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Michael Gogins
>> >> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The only reason I
>> >>> have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the maintainer of
>> >>> the
>> >>> Windows installer for Csound.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Mike
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> >>> Michael Gogins
>> >>> Irreducible Productions
>> >>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>> >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the 32 Cabbage
>> >>>> plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up of Windows at
>> >>>> this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I constantly
>> >>>> encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to destroy my main
>> >>>> user profile. And the "solution" recommended by Microsoft is to
>> >>>> create
>> >>>> a new user profile and start copying things manually from one account
>> >>>> to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And their
>> >>>> official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might not read your
>> >>>> user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I understand
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> for most people everything works fine :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
>> >>>> > They work just fine.
>> >>>> > Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST ( other 32 bit
>> >>>> > VST are
>> >>>> > correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh 
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by side or how
>> >>>> >> does
>> >>>> >> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone
>> >>>> >> 
>> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>> >>>> >> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the (experimental)
>> >>>> >> > Cabbage
>> >>>> >> > 64
>> >>>> >> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>> >>>> >> > VST works perfectly
>> >>>> >> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and load it
>> >>>> >> > in
>> >>>> >> > Ableton 32
>> >>>> >> > bit.
>> >>>> >> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>> >>>> >> > ..mhh...
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >>>> >> >  wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>> >>>> >> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se but how
>> >>>> >> >> csound~
>> >>>> >> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >>>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>> >>>> >> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just work.
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> >> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh 
>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>> >>>> >> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options which helped
>> >>>> >> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were having between
>> >>>> >> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> >> >>>> 
>> >>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think
>> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >>>> >> >>>> > will
>> >>>> >> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be
>> >>>> >> >>>> > worth a
>> >>>> >> >>>> > try.
>> >>>> >> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also related to
>> >>>> >> >>>> > access
>> >>>> >> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or
>> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >>>> >> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting
>> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >>>> >> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark,
>> >>>> >> >>>> > but
>> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >>>> >> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set
>> >>>> >> >>>> > the
>> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll
>> >>>> >> >>>> > find
>> >>>> >> >>>> > a
>> >>>> >> >>>> > number
>> >>>> >> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode.
>> >>>> >> >>>> > In
>> >>>> >> >>>> > this
>> >>>> >> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which
>> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >>>> >> >>>> > grant
>> >>>> >> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>> >>>> >> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here that might
>> >>>> >> >>>> > (or
>> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >>>> >> >>>> > not) help:
>> >>>> >> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>> >>>> >> >>>> > (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>> >>>> >> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >>>> >> >>>> > :
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> with
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> admin
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> priviledges.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> 6.1.8
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> everything
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> works fine
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> on my system.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> regards?
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> a
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>  ha
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> scritto:
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> (copied
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> into
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> VSTs
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> under
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until I
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live*,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> then
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> plugin
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> versions
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> of
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> UAC.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Must
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> run
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found in
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> consistent....
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> more.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> also
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> using
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> such
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> far
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> has
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> been successful.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> :
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > it
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > narrows
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > then
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > of
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > some
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > ticket,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > but I
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > forgot
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > csound~
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > both
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > used
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > In
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > name), so
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > I'll
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > (I just added
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > keep
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > steven
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > 
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> pthread
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> dll
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> into
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> error
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 127.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> What
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Oeyvind are
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> route
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> of
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> quite
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> my
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> own.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> variable
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> that
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> are
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> using
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> diagnose
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> this?
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> It
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> would
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 32-bit
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 6.03.2
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> then
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> open
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> load the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> with
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> body
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
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>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
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>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> NTNU
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>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
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>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
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Date2014-08-20 10:59
Fromalfonso santimone
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
thanks Oeyvind.
i'll try in a few minutes




On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> wrote:
Hi Alfonso,
Could you try this to make Live 32 bit see the VST plugins:

1.  Find the exe, (in C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9 Suite\Program on
my machine),
- right click, select properties
- go to the compatibility tab, check  "run in compatibility mode" and
select "Windows XP Service pack 2" as the mode
- also tick "run as admin while you're on that tab

After this, you should be able to find the plugins.

Another thing to try is a complete uninstall/reinstall of Live, and
testing of it works before authorization of Live (as is the case on my
system).
To do this, take care to clean out all references to Live on the
computer before re-installing.
1. Uninstall
2. Delete the folders:
 - C:\ProgramData\Ableton
- C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Ableton
3. Re-install Live
- do NOT authorize when you start Live
4. try to find and use the plugins
- if it works, try to authorize, ... then wait for a few minutes,
restart Live and try to use the plugins again




2014-08-15 21:43 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
> i'm really confused!
> don't understand what does not work on my side
>
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>
>> I am using my own build of Csound, but yesterday I tried csound~ with
>> Mike's package both old and new and it worked fine. Btw, I now have a
>> version of Live 32bit and it sees my Cabbage32 plugins without a
>> problem. This is odd, because I think we are both using the exact same
>> operating systems!
>>
>> On 15 August 2014 20:20, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > ops..sorry Reaper sees the 32 bit VST ( i've put it in the wrong folder
>> > )
>> > Ableton 32 bit still does not see it.
>> > I wonder if the reasons why are similar to those that give me the
>> > problem
>> > about csound~.
>> > Still i want to report that i have no problems with csound~ 1.1.0 (
>> > using
>> > csound 5 ).
>> > What's changed that can give problems?
>> >
>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM, alfonso santimone
>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> basically i'm on windows because i can have more powerful machine at
>> >> lower
>> >> cost.
>> >> i admit that i've got very few problems.
>> >> this thing about csound is one of them.
>> >> but given csound is such a complex project it's normal that some system
>> >> have some weak point.
>> >> Rory are you using latest Mike csound installer as i do now?
>> >> or the "regular" 6.03.2 ?
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >>
>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Michael Gogins
>> >> <michael.gogins@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The only reason I
>> >>> have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the maintainer of
>> >>> the
>> >>> Windows installer for Csound.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Mike
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> >>> Michael Gogins
>> >>> Irreducible Productions
>> >>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>> >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the 32 Cabbage
>> >>>> plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up of Windows at
>> >>>> this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I constantly
>> >>>> encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to destroy my main
>> >>>> user profile. And the "solution" recommended by Microsoft is to
>> >>>> create
>> >>>> a new user profile and start copying things manually from one account
>> >>>> to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And their
>> >>>> official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might not read your
>> >>>> user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I understand
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> for most people everything works fine :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone
>> >>>> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
>> >>>> > They work just fine.
>> >>>> > Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST ( other 32 bit
>> >>>> > VST are
>> >>>> > correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by side or how
>> >>>> >> does
>> >>>> >> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone
>> >>>> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>> >>>> >> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the (experimental)
>> >>>> >> > Cabbage
>> >>>> >> > 64
>> >>>> >> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>> >>>> >> > VST works perfectly
>> >>>> >> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and load it
>> >>>> >> > in
>> >>>> >> > Ableton 32
>> >>>> >> > bit.
>> >>>> >> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>> >>>> >> > ..mhh...
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >>>> >> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>> >>>> >> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se but how
>> >>>> >> >> csound~
>> >>>> >> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >>>> >> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>> >>>> >> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just work.
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> >> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>> >>>> >> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options which helped
>> >>>> >> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were having between
>> >>>> >> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> >> >>>> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no>
>> >>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think
>> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >>>> >> >>>> > will
>> >>>> >> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be
>> >>>> >> >>>> > worth a
>> >>>> >> >>>> > try.
>> >>>> >> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also related to
>> >>>> >> >>>> > access
>> >>>> >> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or
>> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >>>> >> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting
>> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >>>> >> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark,
>> >>>> >> >>>> > but
>> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >>>> >> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set
>> >>>> >> >>>> > the
>> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll
>> >>>> >> >>>> > find
>> >>>> >> >>>> > a
>> >>>> >> >>>> > number
>> >>>> >> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode.
>> >>>> >> >>>> > In
>> >>>> >> >>>> > this
>> >>>> >> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which
>> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >>>> >> >>>> > grant
>> >>>> >> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>> >>>> >> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here that might
>> >>>> >> >>>> > (or
>> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >>>> >> >>>> > not) help:
>> >>>> >> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>> >>>> >> >>>> > (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>> >>>> >> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >>>> >> >>>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> with
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> admin
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> priviledges.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> 6.1.8
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> everything
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> works fine
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> on my system.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> regards?
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> a
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> scritto:
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> (copied
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> into
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> VSTs
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> under
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until I
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live*,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> then
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> plugin
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> versions
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> of
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> UAC.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Must
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> run
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found in
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> consistent....
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> more.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> also
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> using
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> such
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> far
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> has
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> been successful.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> <stevenyi@gmail.com>:
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > it
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > narrows
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > then
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > of
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > some
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > ticket,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > but I
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > forgot
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > csound~
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > both
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > used
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > In
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > name), so
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > I'll
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > (I just added
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > keep
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > steven
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> pthread
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> dll
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> into
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> error
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 127.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> What
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Oeyvind are
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> route
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> of
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> quite
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> <stevenyi@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> my
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> own.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> variable
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> that
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> are
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> using
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> diagnose
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> this?
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> It
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> would
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 32-bit
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 6.03.2
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> then
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> open
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying to
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> load the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk
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Date2014-08-20 11:39
Fromalfonso santimone
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
it works setting compatibility and administrator mode.

strange thing is that
Max 6.1.8 32 bit and Reaper loads the Cabbage 32bit plugs correclty right away.

This implies that Max 6.1.8 is correcly calling the csound6 api i guess.
So it's strange this does not happens with csound~ 1.1.2
mhh.
i'd definetly try to compile csound~ on my machine and see what happens. as soon as i get some spare time.




On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:59 AM, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
thanks Oeyvind.
i'll try in a few minutes




On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> wrote:
Hi Alfonso,
Could you try this to make Live 32 bit see the VST plugins:

1.  Find the exe, (in C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9 Suite\Program on
my machine),
- right click, select properties
- go to the compatibility tab, check  "run in compatibility mode" and
select "Windows XP Service pack 2" as the mode
- also tick "run as admin while you're on that tab

After this, you should be able to find the plugins.

Another thing to try is a complete uninstall/reinstall of Live, and
testing of it works before authorization of Live (as is the case on my
system).
To do this, take care to clean out all references to Live on the
computer before re-installing.
1. Uninstall
2. Delete the folders:
 - C:\ProgramData\Ableton
- C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Ableton
3. Re-install Live
- do NOT authorize when you start Live
4. try to find and use the plugins
- if it works, try to authorize, ... then wait for a few minutes,
restart Live and try to use the plugins again




2014-08-15 21:43 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
> i'm really confused!
> don't understand what does not work on my side
>
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>
>> I am using my own build of Csound, but yesterday I tried csound~ with
>> Mike's package both old and new and it worked fine. Btw, I now have a
>> version of Live 32bit and it sees my Cabbage32 plugins without a
>> problem. This is odd, because I think we are both using the exact same
>> operating systems!
>>
>> On 15 August 2014 20:20, alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > ops..sorry Reaper sees the 32 bit VST ( i've put it in the wrong folder
>> > )
>> > Ableton 32 bit still does not see it.
>> > I wonder if the reasons why are similar to those that give me the
>> > problem
>> > about csound~.
>> > Still i want to report that i have no problems with csound~ 1.1.0 (
>> > using
>> > csound 5 ).
>> > What's changed that can give problems?
>> >
>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM, alfonso santimone
>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> basically i'm on windows because i can have more powerful machine at
>> >> lower
>> >> cost.
>> >> i admit that i've got very few problems.
>> >> this thing about csound is one of them.
>> >> but given csound is such a complex project it's normal that some system
>> >> have some weak point.
>> >> Rory are you using latest Mike csound installer as i do now?
>> >> or the "regular" 6.03.2 ?
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >>
>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Michael Gogins
>> >> <michael.gogins@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The only reason I
>> >>> have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the maintainer of
>> >>> the
>> >>> Windows installer for Csound.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Mike
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> >>> Michael Gogins
>> >>> Irreducible Productions
>> >>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>> >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the 32 Cabbage
>> >>>> plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up of Windows at
>> >>>> this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I constantly
>> >>>> encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to destroy my main
>> >>>> user profile. And the "solution" recommended by Microsoft is to
>> >>>> create
>> >>>> a new user profile and start copying things manually from one account
>> >>>> to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And their
>> >>>> official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might not read your
>> >>>> user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I understand
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> for most people everything works fine :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone
>> >>>> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
>> >>>> > They work just fine.
>> >>>> > Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST ( other 32 bit
>> >>>> > VST are
>> >>>> > correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by side or how
>> >>>> >> does
>> >>>> >> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone
>> >>>> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>> >>>> >> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the (experimental)
>> >>>> >> > Cabbage
>> >>>> >> > 64
>> >>>> >> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>> >>>> >> > VST works perfectly
>> >>>> >> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and load it
>> >>>> >> > in
>> >>>> >> > Ableton 32
>> >>>> >> > bit.
>> >>>> >> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>> >>>> >> > ..mhh...
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >>>> >> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>> >>>> >> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se but how
>> >>>> >> >> csound~
>> >>>> >> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >>>> >> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>> >>>> >> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just work.
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>>> >> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>> >>>> >> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options which helped
>> >>>> >> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were having between
>> >>>> >> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> >> >>>> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no>
>> >>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I think
>> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >>>> >> >>>> > will
>> >>>> >> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be
>> >>>> >> >>>> > worth a
>> >>>> >> >>>> > try.
>> >>>> >> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also related to
>> >>>> >> >>>> > access
>> >>>> >> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or
>> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >>>> >> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting
>> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >>>> >> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the dark,
>> >>>> >> >>>> > but
>> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >>>> >> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To set
>> >>>> >> >>>> > the
>> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and you'll
>> >>>> >> >>>> > find
>> >>>> >> >>>> > a
>> >>>> >> >>>> > number
>> >>>> >> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2 mode.
>> >>>> >> >>>> > In
>> >>>> >> >>>> > this
>> >>>> >> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe, which
>> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >>>> >> >>>> > grant
>> >>>> >> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>> >>>> >> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here that might
>> >>>> >> >>>> > (or
>> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >>>> >> >>>> > not) help:
>> >>>> >> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>> >>>> >> >>>> > (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>> >>>> >> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >>>> >> >>>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to do
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> with
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> admin
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> priviledges.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and Max
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> 6.1.8
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> everything
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> works fine
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> on my system.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> regards?
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> a
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> scritto:
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> (copied
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> into
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with Cabbage
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> VSTs
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> under
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until I
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live*,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> then
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> plugin
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous different
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> versions
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> of
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested disabling
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> UAC.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Must
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> run
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to be
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found in
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> consistent....
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found any
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> more.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound and
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> also
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> using
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not show
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> such
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but so
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> far
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> has
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> been successful.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> <stevenyi@gmail.com>:
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working there,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > it
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > narrows
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an issue
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > then
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > of
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > some
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > ticket,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > but I
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > forgot
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > csound~
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > both
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > used
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > In
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > name), so
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > I'll
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > (I just added
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > keep
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win 7?
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > steven
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to place a
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> pthread
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> dll
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> into
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting an
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> error
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 127.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> What
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Oeyvind are
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has been
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> route
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> of
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> quite
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> <stevenyi@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine on
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> my
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> own.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> variable
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> that
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael and I
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> are
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> using
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> diagnose
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> this?
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> It
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> would
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 32-bit
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 6.03.2
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed online
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).  After
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe is,
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> then
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> open
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from the
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
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Date2014-08-21 07:52
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
Ok. So all is working well, as long as you run Live in compatibility/admin mode?
Good. Which version of Windows 7 do you use (home/pro/ultimate/enterprise)?
It seems, on my end there is a difference between the professional and
enterprise versions, with less problems on the professional version.

2014-08-20 12:39 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone :
> it works setting compatibility and administrator mode.
>
> strange thing is that
> Max 6.1.8 32 bit and Reaper loads the Cabbage 32bit plugs correclty right
> away.
>
> This implies that Max 6.1.8 is correcly calling the csound6 api i guess.
> So it's strange this does not happens with csound~ 1.1.2
> mhh.
> i'd definetly try to compile csound~ on my machine and see what happens. as
> soon as i get some spare time.
>
>
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:59 AM, alfonso santimone
>  wrote:
>>
>> thanks Oeyvind.
>> i'll try in a few minutes
>>
>>
>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alfonso,
>>> Could you try this to make Live 32 bit see the VST plugins:
>>>
>>> 1.  Find the exe, (in C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9 Suite\Program on
>>> my machine),
>>> - right click, select properties
>>> - go to the compatibility tab, check  "run in compatibility mode" and
>>> select "Windows XP Service pack 2" as the mode
>>> - also tick "run as admin while you're on that tab
>>>
>>> After this, you should be able to find the plugins.
>>>
>>> Another thing to try is a complete uninstall/reinstall of Live, and
>>> testing of it works before authorization of Live (as is the case on my
>>> system).
>>> To do this, take care to clean out all references to Live on the
>>> computer before re-installing.
>>> 1. Uninstall
>>> 2. Delete the folders:
>>>  - C:\ProgramData\Ableton
>>> - C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Ableton
>>> 3. Re-install Live
>>> - do NOT authorize when you start Live
>>> 4. try to find and use the plugins
>>> - if it works, try to authorize, ... then wait for a few minutes,
>>> restart Live and try to use the plugins again
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-08-15 21:43 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>>> :
>>> > i'm really confused!
>>> > don't understand what does not work on my side
>>> >
>>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I am using my own build of Csound, but yesterday I tried csound~ with
>>> >> Mike's package both old and new and it worked fine. Btw, I now have a
>>> >> version of Live 32bit and it sees my Cabbage32 plugins without a
>>> >> problem. This is odd, because I think we are both using the exact same
>>> >> operating systems!
>>> >>
>>> >> On 15 August 2014 20:20, alfonso santimone
>>> >> 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > ops..sorry Reaper sees the 32 bit VST ( i've put it in the wrong
>>> >> > folder
>>> >> > )
>>> >> > Ableton 32 bit still does not see it.
>>> >> > I wonder if the reasons why are similar to those that give me the
>>> >> > problem
>>> >> > about csound~.
>>> >> > Still i want to report that i have no problems with csound~ 1.1.0 (
>>> >> > using
>>> >> > csound 5 ).
>>> >> > What's changed that can give problems?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM, alfonso santimone
>>> >> >  wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> basically i'm on windows because i can have more powerful machine
>>> >> >> at
>>> >> >> lower
>>> >> >> cost.
>>> >> >> i admit that i've got very few problems.
>>> >> >> this thing about csound is one of them.
>>> >> >> but given csound is such a complex project it's normal that some
>>> >> >> system
>>> >> >> have some weak point.
>>> >> >> Rory are you using latest Mike csound installer as i do now?
>>> >> >> or the "regular" 6.03.2 ?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> thanks
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Michael Gogins
>>> >> >> 
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The only
>>> >> >>> reason I
>>> >> >>> have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the maintainer
>>> >> >>> of
>>> >> >>> the
>>> >> >>> Windows installer for Csound.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Regards,
>>> >> >>> Mike
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>> >> >>> Michael Gogins
>>> >> >>> Irreducible Productions
>>> >> >>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>>> >> >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh 
>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the 32 Cabbage
>>> >> >>>> plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up of Windows
>>> >> >>>> at
>>> >> >>>> this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I constantly
>>> >> >>>> encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to destroy my
>>> >> >>>> main
>>> >> >>>> user profile. And the "solution" recommended by Microsoft is to
>>> >> >>>> create
>>> >> >>>> a new user profile and start copying things manually from one
>>> >> >>>> account
>>> >> >>>> to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And their
>>> >> >>>> official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might not read
>>> >> >>>> your
>>> >> >>>> user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I understand
>>> >> >>>> that
>>> >> >>>> for most people everything works fine :)
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone
>>> >> >>>> 
>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> > I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
>>> >> >>>> > They work just fine.
>>> >> >>>> > Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST ( other 32
>>> >> >>>> > bit
>>> >> >>>> > VST are
>>> >> >>>> > correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )
>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> >> >>>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh 
>>> >> >>>> > wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by side or
>>> >> >>>> >> how
>>> >> >>>> >> does
>>> >> >>>> >> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone
>>> >> >>>> >> 
>>> >> >>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>>> >> >>>> >> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the
>>> >> >>>> >> > (experimental)
>>> >> >>>> >> > Cabbage
>>> >> >>>> >> > 64
>>> >> >>>> >> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>>> >> >>>> >> > VST works perfectly
>>> >> >>>> >> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and load
>>> >> >>>> >> > it
>>> >> >>>> >> > in
>>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32
>>> >> >>>> >> > bit.
>>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>>> >> >>>> >> > ..mhh...
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> >> >>>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >  wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>>> >> >>>> >> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se but
>>> >> >>>> >> >> how
>>> >> >>>> >> >> csound~
>>> >> >>>> >> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> >> >>>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >>  wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> work.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> 
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options which
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> helped
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were having
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> between
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> 
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > think
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > will
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > worth a
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > try.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also related to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > access
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dark,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > but
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > set
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > you'll
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > find
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > a
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > number
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > In
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > this
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > which
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > grant
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here that
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (or
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not) help:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > :
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> do
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> with
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> admin
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> priviledges.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Max
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> 6.1.8
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> everything
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> works fine
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> on my system.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> regards?
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> a
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>  ha
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> scritto:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> (copied
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> into
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Cabbage
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> VSTs
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> under
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until I
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live*,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> then
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> plugin
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> different
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> versions
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> of
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> disabling
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> UAC.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Must
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> run
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> be
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found in
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> consistent....
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> more.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> also
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> using
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> show
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> such
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> so
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> far
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> has
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> been successful.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> :
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > there,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > it
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > narrows
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > issue
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > then
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > of
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > some
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > ticket,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > but I
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > forgot
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > csound~
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > both
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > used
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > In
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > name), so
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > I'll
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > (I just added
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > keep
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > 7?
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > steven
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > 
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> place a
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> pthread
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> dll
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> into
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> an
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> error
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 127.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> What
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Oeyvind are
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> been
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> route
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> of
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> quite
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> on
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> my
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> own.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> variable
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> that
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and I
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> are
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> using
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> diagnose
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> this?
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> It
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> would
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 32-bit
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 6.03.2
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> online
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> After
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> then
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> open
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> load the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> here
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> with
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> body
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Send bugs reports to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> here
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> with
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> body
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Send bugs reports to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > with
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > body
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > "unsubscribe
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > csound"
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> --
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> NTNU
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 7491 Trondheim
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Norway
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> with
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> body
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> "unsubscribe
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> csound"
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> --
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > --
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Professor of Music Technology
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > NTNU
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > 7491 Trondheim
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Norway
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://flyndresang.no/
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Send bugs reports to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > body
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > "unsubscribe csound"
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Send bugs reports to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> body
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> "unsubscribe
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> csound"
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> Send bugs reports to
>>> >> >>>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >> >>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >> >>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >> >>>> >> "unsubscribe
>>> >> >>>> >> csound"
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Send bugs reports to
>>> >> >>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >> >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >> >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >> >>>> "unsubscribe
>>> >> >>>> csound"
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Send bugs reports to
>>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >> "unsubscribe
>>> >> csound"
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>> NTNU
>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>> Norway
>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>
>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>



-- 

Oeyvind Brandtsegg
Professor of Music Technology
NTNU
7491 Trondheim
Norway
Cell: +47 92 203 205

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http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
http://soundcloud.com/t-emp


Date2014-08-21 11:37
Fromalfonso santimone
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
i'm on Win 7 Pro 64bit

Il giovedì 21 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha scritto:
Ok. So all is working well, as long as you run Live in compatibility/admin mode?
Good. Which version of Windows 7 do you use (home/pro/ultimate/enterprise)?
It seems, on my end there is a difference between the professional and
enterprise versions, with less problems on the professional version.

2014-08-20 12:39 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
> it works setting compatibility and administrator mode.
>
> strange thing is that
> Max 6.1.8 32 bit and Reaper loads the Cabbage 32bit plugs correclty right
> away.
>
> This implies that Max 6.1.8 is correcly calling the csound6 api i guess.
> So it's strange this does not happens with csound~ 1.1.2
> mhh.
> i'd definetly try to compile csound~ on my machine and see what happens. as
> soon as i get some spare time.
>
>
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:59 AM, alfonso santimone
> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> thanks Oeyvind.
>> i'll try in a few minutes
>>
>>
>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alfonso,
>>> Could you try this to make Live 32 bit see the VST plugins:
>>>
>>> 1.  Find the exe, (in C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9 Suite\Program on
>>> my machine),
>>> - right click, select properties
>>> - go to the compatibility tab, check  "run in compatibility mode" and
>>> select "Windows XP Service pack 2" as the mode
>>> - also tick "run as admin while you're on that tab
>>>
>>> After this, you should be able to find the plugins.
>>>
>>> Another thing to try is a complete uninstall/reinstall of Live, and
>>> testing of it works before authorization of Live (as is the case on my
>>> system).
>>> To do this, take care to clean out all references to Live on the
>>> computer before re-installing.
>>> 1. Uninstall
>>> 2. Delete the folders:
>>>  - C:\ProgramData\Ableton
>>> - C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Ableton
>>> 3. Re-install Live
>>> - do NOT authorize when you start Live
>>> 4. try to find and use the plugins
>>> - if it works, try to authorize, ... then wait for a few minutes,
>>> restart Live and try to use the plugins again
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-08-15 21:43 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>>> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>>> > i'm really confused!
>>> > don't understand what does not work on my side
>>> >
>>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I am using my own build of Csound, but yesterday I tried csound~ with
>>> >> Mike's package both old and new and it worked fine. Btw, I now have a
>>> >> version of Live 32bit and it sees my Cabbage32 plugins without a
>>> >> problem. This is odd, because I think we are both using the exact same
>>> >> operating systems!
>>> >>
>>> >> On 15 August 2014 20:20, alfonso santimone
>>> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > ops..sorry Reaper sees the 32 bit VST ( i've put it in the wrong
>>> >> > folder
>>> >> > )
>>> >> > Ableton 32 bit still does not see it.
>>> >> > I wonder if the reasons why are similar to those that give me the
>>> >> > problem
>>> >> > about csound~.
>>> >> > Still i want to report that i have no problems with csound~ 1.1.0 (
>>> >> > using
>>> >> > csound 5 ).
>>> >> > What's changed that can give problems?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM, alfonso santimone
>>> >> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> basically i'm on windows because i can have more powerful machine
>>> >> >> at
>>> >> >> lower
>>> >> >> cost.
>>> >> >> i admit that i've got very few problems.
>>> >> >> this thing about csound is one of them.
>>> >> >> but given csound is such a complex project it's normal that some
>>> >> >> system
>>> >> >> have some weak point.
>>> >> >> Rory are you using latest Mike csound installer as i do now?
>>> >> >> or the "regular" 6.03.2 ?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> thanks
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Michael Gogins
>>> >> >> <michael.gogins@gmail.com>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The only
>>> >> >>> reason I
>>> >> >>> have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the maintainer
>>> >> >>> of
>>> >> >>> the
>>> >> >>> Windows installer for Csound.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Regards,
>>> >> >>> Mike
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>> >> >>> Michael Gogins
>>> >> >>> Irreducible Productions
>>> >> >>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>>> >> >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the 32 Cabbage
>>> >> >>>> plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up of Windows
>>> >> >>>> at
>>> >> >>>> this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I constantly
>>> >> >>>> encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to destroy my
>>> >> >>>> main
>>> >> >>>> user profile. And the "solution" recommended by Microsoft is to
>>> >> >>>> create
>>> >> >>>> a new user profile and start copying things manually from one
>>> >> >>>> account
>>> >> >>>> to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And their
>>> >> >>>> official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might not read
>>> >> >>>> your
>>> >> >>>> user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I understand
>>> >> >>>> that
>>> >> >>>> for most people everything works fine :)
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone
>>> >> >>>> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> > I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
>>> >> >>>> > They work just fine.
>>> >> >>>> > Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST ( other 32
>>> >> >>>> > bit
>>> >> >>>> > VST are
>>> >> >>>> > correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )
>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> >> >>>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>>> >> >>>> > wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by side or
>>> >> >>>> >> how
>>> >> >>>> >> does
>>> >> >>>> >> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone
>>> >> >>>> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>>> >> >>>> >> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the
>>> >> >>>> >> > (experimental)
>>> >> >>>> >> > Cabbage
>>> >> >>>> >> > 64
>>> >> >>>> >> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>>> >> >>>> >> > VST works perfectly
>>> >> >>>> >> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and load
>>> >> >>>> >> > it
>>> >> >>>> >> > in
>>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32
>>> >> >>>> >> > bit.
>>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>>> >> >>>> >> > ..mhh...
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> >> >>>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>>> >> >>>> >> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>>> >> >>>> >> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se but
>>> >> >>>> >> >> how
>>> >> >>>> >> >> csound~
>>> >> >>>> >> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> >> >>>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> work.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options which
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> helped
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were having
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> between
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says, I
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > think
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > will
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might be
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > worth a
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > try.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also related to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > access
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try setting
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dark,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > but
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my system. To
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > set
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > you'll
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > find
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > a
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > number
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > In
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > this
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > which
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > grant
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here that
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (or
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not) help:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (permissions for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees :-)
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has something to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> do
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> with
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> admin
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> priviledges.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0 and
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Max
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> 6.1.8
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> everything
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> works fine
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> on my system.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in this
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> regards?
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> a
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> scritto:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll issue
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> (copied
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> into
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Cabbage
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> VSTs
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> under
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until I
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live*,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> then
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not load
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> plugin
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> different
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> versions
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> of
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> disabling
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> UAC.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Must
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> run
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> be
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found in
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> consistent....
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be found
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> more.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using Csound
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> also
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> using
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> show
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> such
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help but
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> so
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> far
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> has
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> been successful.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> <stevenyi@gmail.com>:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > there,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > it
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > narrows
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > issue
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > then
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > of
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > some
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > ticket,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > but I
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > forgot
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5 and
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > csound~
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > both
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > used
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to distribute
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > In
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think that's
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > name), so
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > I'll
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > (I just added
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > keep
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise Win
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > 7?
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > steven
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> place a
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> pthread
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> dll
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> into
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was getting
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> an
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> error
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 127.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> What
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself and
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Oeyvind are
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the Enterprise
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> been
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> route
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> of
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> quite
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> <stevenyi@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing why
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs fine
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> on
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> my
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> own.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.  One
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> variable
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> that
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and I
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> are
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> using
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> diagnose
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> this?
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> It
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> would
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for Windows
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 32-bit
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/), Csound
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 6.03.2
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> online
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> After
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the csound~.mxe
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> then
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> open
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat from
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when trying
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> load the
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> here
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>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
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>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> --
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> NTNU
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 7491 Trondheim
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Norway
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Send bugs reports to
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>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
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>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> --
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>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > --
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Professor of Music Technology
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > NTNU
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > 7491 Trondheim
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Norway
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://flyndresang.no/
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Send bugs reports to
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>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
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>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> >> >>>> >>
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>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
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>>> >>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>> NTNU
>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>> Norway
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>>>
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Date2014-08-21 14:05
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
Ok, thanks. Guess it is not as simple as the specific version of
windows then.... back to searching for the cause.

2014-08-21 12:37 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone :
> i'm on Win 7 Pro 64bit
>
> Il giovedì 21 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  ha
> scritto:
>
>> Ok. So all is working well, as long as you run Live in compatibility/admin
>> mode?
>> Good. Which version of Windows 7 do you use
>> (home/pro/ultimate/enterprise)?
>> It seems, on my end there is a difference between the professional and
>> enterprise versions, with less problems on the professional version.
>>
>> 2014-08-20 12:39 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> :
>> > it works setting compatibility and administrator mode.
>> >
>> > strange thing is that
>> > Max 6.1.8 32 bit and Reaper loads the Cabbage 32bit plugs correclty
>> > right
>> > away.
>> >
>> > This implies that Max 6.1.8 is correcly calling the csound6 api i guess.
>> > So it's strange this does not happens with csound~ 1.1.2
>> > mhh.
>> > i'd definetly try to compile csound~ on my machine and see what happens.
>> > as
>> > soon as i get some spare time.
>> >
>> >
>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:59 AM, alfonso santimone
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> thanks Oeyvind.
>> >> i'll try in a few minutes
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Alfonso,
>> >>> Could you try this to make Live 32 bit see the VST plugins:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1.  Find the exe, (in C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9 Suite\Program on
>> >>> my machine),
>> >>> - right click, select properties
>> >>> - go to the compatibility tab, check  "run in compatibility mode" and
>> >>> select "Windows XP Service pack 2" as the mode
>> >>> - also tick "run as admin while you're on that tab
>> >>>
>> >>> After this, you should be able to find the plugins.
>> >>>
>> >>> Another thing to try is a complete uninstall/reinstall of Live, and
>> >>> testing of it works before authorization of Live (as is the case on my
>> >>> system).
>> >>> To do this, take care to clean out all references to Live on the
>> >>> computer before re-installing.
>> >>> 1. Uninstall
>> >>> 2. Delete the folders:
>> >>>  - C:\ProgramData\Ableton
>> >>> - C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Ableton
>> >>> 3. Re-install Live
>> >>> - do NOT authorize when you start Live
>> >>> 4. try to find and use the plugins
>> >>> - if it works, try to authorize, ... then wait for a few minutes,
>> >>> restart Live and try to use the plugins again
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2014-08-15 21:43 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >>> :
>> >>> > i'm really confused!
>> >>> > don't understand what does not work on my side
>> >>> >
>> >>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Rory Walsh 
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I am using my own build of Csound, but yesterday I tried csound~
>> >>> >> with
>> >>> >> Mike's package both old and new and it worked fine. Btw, I now have
>> >>> >> a
>> >>> >> version of Live 32bit and it sees my Cabbage32 plugins without a
>> >>> >> problem. This is odd, because I think we are both using the exact
>> >>> >> same
>> >>> >> operating systems!
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On 15 August 2014 20:20, alfonso santimone
>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> > ops..sorry Reaper sees the 32 bit VST ( i've put it in the wrong
>> >>> >> > folder
>> >>> >> > )
>> >>> >> > Ableton 32 bit still does not see it.
>> >>> >> > I wonder if the reasons why are similar to those that give me the
>> >>> >> > problem
>> >>> >> > about csound~.
>> >>> >> > Still i want to report that i have no problems with csound~ 1.1.0
>> >>> >> > (
>> >>> >> > using
>> >>> >> > csound 5 ).
>> >>> >> > What's changed that can give problems?
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >>> >> >  wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> basically i'm on windows because i can have more powerful
>> >>> >> >> machine
>> >>> >> >> at
>> >>> >> >> lower
>> >>> >> >> cost.
>> >>> >> >> i admit that i've got very few problems.
>> >>> >> >> this thing about csound is one of them.
>> >>> >> >> but given csound is such a complex project it's normal that some
>> >>> >> >> system
>> >>> >> >> have some weak point.
>> >>> >> >> Rory are you using latest Mike csound installer as i do now?
>> >>> >> >> or the "regular" 6.03.2 ?
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> thanks
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Michael Gogins
>> >>> >> >> 
>> >>> >> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The only
>> >>> >> >>> reason I
>> >>> >> >>> have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the
>> >>> >> >>> maintainer
>> >>> >> >>> of
>> >>> >> >>> the
>> >>> >> >>> Windows installer for Csound.
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> Regards,
>> >>> >> >>> Mike
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> >>> >> >>> Michael Gogins
>> >>> >> >>> Irreducible Productions
>> >>> >> >>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>> >>> >> >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh 
>> >>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the 32
>> >>> >> >>>> Cabbage
>> >>> >> >>>> plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up of
>> >>> >> >>>> Windows
>> >>> >> >>>> at
>> >>> >> >>>> this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I
>> >>> >> >>>> constantly
>> >>> >> >>>> encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to destroy
>> >>> >> >>>> my
>> >>> >> >>>> main
>> >>> >> >>>> user profile. And the "solution" recommended by Microsoft is
>> >>> >> >>>> to
>> >>> >> >>>> create
>> >>> >> >>>> a new user profile and start copying things manually from one
>> >>> >> >>>> account
>> >>> >> >>>> to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And their
>> >>> >> >>>> official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might not
>> >>> >> >>>> read
>> >>> >> >>>> your
>> >>> >> >>>> user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I
>> >>> >> >>>> understand
>> >>> >> >>>> that
>> >>> >> >>>> for most people everything works fine :)
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone
>> >>> >> >>>> 
>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> > I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
>> >>> >> >>>> > They work just fine.
>> >>> >> >>>> > Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST ( other
>> >>> >> >>>> > 32
>> >>> >> >>>> > bit
>> >>> >> >>>> > VST are
>> >>> >> >>>> > correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )
>> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> >> >>>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >>> >> >>>> > 
>> >>> >> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by side
>> >>> >> >>>> >> or
>> >>> >> >>>> >> how
>> >>> >> >>>> >> does
>> >>> >> >>>> >> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> 
>> >>> >> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > (experimental)
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > Cabbage
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > 64
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > VST works perfectly
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > load
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > it
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > in
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > bit.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > ..mhh...
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >  wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> but
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> how
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> csound~
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> work.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> 
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options which
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> helped
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were having
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> between
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> 
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > I
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > think
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > will
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > be
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > worth a
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > try.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also related
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > access
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > setting
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dark,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > but
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my system.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > To
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > set
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > you'll
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > find
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > a
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > number
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > In
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > this
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > which
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > grant
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here that
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (or
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not) help:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (permissions for
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > :-)
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > :
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has something
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> do
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> with
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> admin
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> priviledges.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> and
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Max
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> 6.1.8
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> everything
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> works fine
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> on my system.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> this
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> regards?
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> a
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>  ha
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> scritto:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> issue
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> (copied
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> into
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Cabbage
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> VSTs
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> under
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until I
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live*,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> then
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> load
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> plugin
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> different
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> versions
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> of
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> disabling
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> UAC.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Must
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> run
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> be
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found in
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> consistent....
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> more.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> also
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> using
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> show
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> such
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> but
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> so
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> far
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> has
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> been successful.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> :
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > there,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > it
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > narrows
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > issue
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > then
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > of
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > some
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > ticket,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > but I
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > forgot
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > and
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > csound~
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > both
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > used
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > distribute
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > In
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that's
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > name), so
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > I'll
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > (I just added
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > keep
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Win
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > 7?
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > steven
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > 
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> place a
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> pthread
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> dll
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> into
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> getting
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> an
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> error
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 127.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> What
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> and
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Oeyvind are
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Enterprise
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> been
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> route
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> of
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> quite
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> why
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> fine
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> on
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> my
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> own.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> One
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> variable
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> that
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and I
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> are
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> using
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> diagnose
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> this?
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> It
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> would
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 32-bit
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/),
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 6.03.2
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> online
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> After
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~.mxe
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> then
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> open
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> from
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> trying
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> load the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> here
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>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Send bugs reports to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
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>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Send bugs reports to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > csound"
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> --
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> NTNU
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 7491 Trondheim
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Norway
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> csound"
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> --
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > --
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Professor of Music Technology
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > NTNU
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > 7491 Trondheim
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Norway
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://flyndresang.no/
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Send bugs reports to
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>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> body
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> "unsubscribe
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> csound"
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
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Date2014-08-21 14:28
Fromalfonso santimone
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
do you mean the cause for Live not seeing 32 bit Cabbage VST?
could be connected with my problem with csound~ 1.1.2 and Max 6.1.8 32bit?



On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> wrote:
Ok, thanks. Guess it is not as simple as the specific version of
windows then.... back to searching for the cause.

2014-08-21 12:37 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
> i'm on Win 7 Pro 64bit
>
> Il giovedì 21 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha
> scritto:
>
>> Ok. So all is working well, as long as you run Live in compatibility/admin
>> mode?
>> Good. Which version of Windows 7 do you use
>> (home/pro/ultimate/enterprise)?
>> It seems, on my end there is a difference between the professional and
>> enterprise versions, with less problems on the professional version.
>>
>> 2014-08-20 12:39 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>> > it works setting compatibility and administrator mode.
>> >
>> > strange thing is that
>> > Max 6.1.8 32 bit and Reaper loads the Cabbage 32bit plugs correclty
>> > right
>> > away.
>> >
>> > This implies that Max 6.1.8 is correcly calling the csound6 api i guess.
>> > So it's strange this does not happens with csound~ 1.1.2
>> > mhh.
>> > i'd definetly try to compile csound~ on my machine and see what happens.
>> > as
>> > soon as i get some spare time.
>> >
>> >
>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:59 AM, alfonso santimone
>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> thanks Oeyvind.
>> >> i'll try in a few minutes
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Alfonso,
>> >>> Could you try this to make Live 32 bit see the VST plugins:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1.  Find the exe, (in C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9 Suite\Program on
>> >>> my machine),
>> >>> - right click, select properties
>> >>> - go to the compatibility tab, check  "run in compatibility mode" and
>> >>> select "Windows XP Service pack 2" as the mode
>> >>> - also tick "run as admin while you're on that tab
>> >>>
>> >>> After this, you should be able to find the plugins.
>> >>>
>> >>> Another thing to try is a complete uninstall/reinstall of Live, and
>> >>> testing of it works before authorization of Live (as is the case on my
>> >>> system).
>> >>> To do this, take care to clean out all references to Live on the
>> >>> computer before re-installing.
>> >>> 1. Uninstall
>> >>> 2. Delete the folders:
>> >>>  - C:\ProgramData\Ableton
>> >>> - C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Ableton
>> >>> 3. Re-install Live
>> >>> - do NOT authorize when you start Live
>> >>> 4. try to find and use the plugins
>> >>> - if it works, try to authorize, ... then wait for a few minutes,
>> >>> restart Live and try to use the plugins again
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2014-08-15 21:43 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >>> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>> >>> > i'm really confused!
>> >>> > don't understand what does not work on my side
>> >>> >
>> >>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I am using my own build of Csound, but yesterday I tried csound~
>> >>> >> with
>> >>> >> Mike's package both old and new and it worked fine. Btw, I now have
>> >>> >> a
>> >>> >> version of Live 32bit and it sees my Cabbage32 plugins without a
>> >>> >> problem. This is odd, because I think we are both using the exact
>> >>> >> same
>> >>> >> operating systems!
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On 15 August 2014 20:20, alfonso santimone
>> >>> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> > ops..sorry Reaper sees the 32 bit VST ( i've put it in the wrong
>> >>> >> > folder
>> >>> >> > )
>> >>> >> > Ableton 32 bit still does not see it.
>> >>> >> > I wonder if the reasons why are similar to those that give me the
>> >>> >> > problem
>> >>> >> > about csound~.
>> >>> >> > Still i want to report that i have no problems with csound~ 1.1.0
>> >>> >> > (
>> >>> >> > using
>> >>> >> > csound 5 ).
>> >>> >> > What's changed that can give problems?
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >>> >> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> basically i'm on windows because i can have more powerful
>> >>> >> >> machine
>> >>> >> >> at
>> >>> >> >> lower
>> >>> >> >> cost.
>> >>> >> >> i admit that i've got very few problems.
>> >>> >> >> this thing about csound is one of them.
>> >>> >> >> but given csound is such a complex project it's normal that some
>> >>> >> >> system
>> >>> >> >> have some weak point.
>> >>> >> >> Rory are you using latest Mike csound installer as i do now?
>> >>> >> >> or the "regular" 6.03.2 ?
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> thanks
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Michael Gogins
>> >>> >> >> <michael.gogins@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The only
>> >>> >> >>> reason I
>> >>> >> >>> have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the
>> >>> >> >>> maintainer
>> >>> >> >>> of
>> >>> >> >>> the
>> >>> >> >>> Windows installer for Csound.
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> Regards,
>> >>> >> >>> Mike
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> >>> >> >>> Michael Gogins
>> >>> >> >>> Irreducible Productions
>> >>> >> >>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>> >>> >> >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the 32
>> >>> >> >>>> Cabbage
>> >>> >> >>>> plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up of
>> >>> >> >>>> Windows
>> >>> >> >>>> at
>> >>> >> >>>> this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I
>> >>> >> >>>> constantly
>> >>> >> >>>> encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to destroy
>> >>> >> >>>> my
>> >>> >> >>>> main
>> >>> >> >>>> user profile. And the "solution" recommended by Microsoft is
>> >>> >> >>>> to
>> >>> >> >>>> create
>> >>> >> >>>> a new user profile and start copying things manually from one
>> >>> >> >>>> account
>> >>> >> >>>> to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And their
>> >>> >> >>>> official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might not
>> >>> >> >>>> read
>> >>> >> >>>> your
>> >>> >> >>>> user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I
>> >>> >> >>>> understand
>> >>> >> >>>> that
>> >>> >> >>>> for most people everything works fine :)
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone
>> >>> >> >>>> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> > I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
>> >>> >> >>>> > They work just fine.
>> >>> >> >>>> > Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST ( other
>> >>> >> >>>> > 32
>> >>> >> >>>> > bit
>> >>> >> >>>> > VST are
>> >>> >> >>>> > correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )
>> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> >> >>>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >>> >> >>>> > <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >>> >> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by side
>> >>> >> >>>> >> or
>> >>> >> >>>> >> how
>> >>> >> >>>> >> does
>> >>> >> >>>> >> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > (experimental)
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > Cabbage
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > 64
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > VST works perfectly
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > load
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > it
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > in
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > bit.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > ..mhh...
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> but
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> how
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> csound~
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0. just
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> work.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options which
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> helped
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were having
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> between
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a shot.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it says,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > I
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > think
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > will
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it might
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > be
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > worth a
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > try.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also related
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > access
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection, or
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > setting
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dark,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > but
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my system.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > To
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > set
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > you'll
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > find
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > a
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > number
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use XP/SP2
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > In
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > this
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the exe,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > which
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > grant
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here that
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (or
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not) help:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (permissions for
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > :-)
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has something
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> do
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> with
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> admin
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> priviledges.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~ 1.1.0
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> and
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Max
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> 6.1.8
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> everything
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> works fine
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> on my system.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2 in
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> this
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> regards?
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> a
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> scritto:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> issue
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> (copied
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> into
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues with
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Cabbage
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> VSTs
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> under
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until I
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live*,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> then
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> load
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> plugin
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> different
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> versions
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> of
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> disabling
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> UAC.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Must
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> run
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the plugins
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> be
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found in
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> consistent....
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> more.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> also
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> using
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does not
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> show
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> such
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to help
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> but
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> so
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> far
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> has
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> been successful.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> <stevenyi@gmail.com>:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's working
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > there,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > it
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > narrows
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be an
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > issue
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > then
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > of
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > some
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > ticket,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > but I
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > forgot
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > and
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > csound~
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > both
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > used
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > distribute
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > In
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that's
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > name), so
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > I'll
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to include
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > (I just added
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > keep
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding Enterprise
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Win
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > 7?
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > steven
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> place a
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> pthread
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> dll
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> into
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> getting
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> an
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> error
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 127.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> What
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on? Myself
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> and
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Oeyvind are
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Enterprise
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That has
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> been
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> route
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> of
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> quite
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> <stevenyi@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> why
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though runs
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> fine
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> on
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> my
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> own.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> One
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> variable
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> that
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while Michael
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and I
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> are
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> using
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help us
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> diagnose
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> this?
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> It
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> would
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 32-bit
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/),
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 6.03.2
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> online
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> After
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~.mxe
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> then
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> open
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> from
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> trying
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> load the
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> here
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> with
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> body
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Send bugs reports to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Send bugs reports to
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>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > "unsubscribe
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > csound"
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> --
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> NTNU
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 7491 Trondheim
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Norway
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> --
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > --
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Professor of Music Technology
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > NTNU
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > 7491 Trondheim
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Norway
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://flyndresang.no/
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Send bugs reports to
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>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > with
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>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> body
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> "unsubscribe
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> csound"
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >> Send bugs reports to
>> >>> >> >>>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>> >> >>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>> >> >>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>> >> >>>> >> "unsubscribe
>> >>> >> >>>> >> csound"
>> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>> >> >>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>> >> >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>> >> >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>> >> >>>> "unsubscribe
>> >>> >> >>>> csound"
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Send bugs reports to
>> >>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>> >> "unsubscribe
>> >>> >> csound"
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>> >>> NTNU
>> >>> 7491 Trondheim
>> >>> Norway
>> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>>
>> >>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> >>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>> >>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>> "unsubscribe
>> >>> csound"
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> Professor of Music Technology
>> NTNU
>> 7491 Trondheim
>> Norway
>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>
>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to
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>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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>



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Date2014-08-22 10:19
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
I just meant that there were enough similarities in our symptoms that
it could seem to be rooted in the same actual problem.
It has been extremely difficult to track down the cause, and as usual
also difficult to show to others a problem that can not be replicated
on their machine. I thought it had something to do with the exact
version of windows, but since you do not have the same version as me
(and the problems I currently have did not show up on the previous
computer, where I actually had the same OS as you, Win 7 Pro), then it
is probably something else.
Then again, the fact that for both you and me can avoid some of the
problems by running in compatibility mode for windows XP again
suggests there is something fishy OS related.
The problems on my side can be replicated with a "hello world" plugins
that Rory compiled, one that does not load csound or cabbage at all.
It is just a JUCE framework plug compiled with mingw. My current shot
in the dark hunch is that the mingw compiled library somehow is seen
as a suspect for threat/malicious by the OS and is prevented from
running properly. This is why I tried disabling UAC. I also tried
disabling virus software, firewalls, Windows defender, looking at
system logs for things that had been prevented from running. So far
nothing.
Oeyvind

2014-08-21 15:28 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone :
> do you mean the cause for Live not seeing 32 bit Cabbage VST?
> could be connected with my problem with csound~ 1.1.2 and Max 6.1.8 32bit?
>
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>  wrote:
>>
>> Ok, thanks. Guess it is not as simple as the specific version of
>> windows then.... back to searching for the cause.
>>
>> 2014-08-21 12:37 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> :
>> > i'm on Win 7 Pro 64bit
>> >
>> > Il giovedì 21 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >  ha
>> > scritto:
>> >
>> >> Ok. So all is working well, as long as you run Live in
>> >> compatibility/admin
>> >> mode?
>> >> Good. Which version of Windows 7 do you use
>> >> (home/pro/ultimate/enterprise)?
>> >> It seems, on my end there is a difference between the professional and
>> >> enterprise versions, with less problems on the professional version.
>> >>
>> >> 2014-08-20 12:39 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >> :
>> >> > it works setting compatibility and administrator mode.
>> >> >
>> >> > strange thing is that
>> >> > Max 6.1.8 32 bit and Reaper loads the Cabbage 32bit plugs correclty
>> >> > right
>> >> > away.
>> >> >
>> >> > This implies that Max 6.1.8 is correcly calling the csound6 api i
>> >> > guess.
>> >> > So it's strange this does not happens with csound~ 1.1.2
>> >> > mhh.
>> >> > i'd definetly try to compile csound~ on my machine and see what
>> >> > happens.
>> >> > as
>> >> > soon as i get some spare time.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:59 AM, alfonso santimone
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> thanks Oeyvind.
>> >> >> i'll try in a few minutes
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Hi Alfonso,
>> >> >>> Could you try this to make Live 32 bit see the VST plugins:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 1.  Find the exe, (in C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9 Suite\Program
>> >> >>> on
>> >> >>> my machine),
>> >> >>> - right click, select properties
>> >> >>> - go to the compatibility tab, check  "run in compatibility mode"
>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>> select "Windows XP Service pack 2" as the mode
>> >> >>> - also tick "run as admin while you're on that tab
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> After this, you should be able to find the plugins.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Another thing to try is a complete uninstall/reinstall of Live, and
>> >> >>> testing of it works before authorization of Live (as is the case on
>> >> >>> my
>> >> >>> system).
>> >> >>> To do this, take care to clean out all references to Live on the
>> >> >>> computer before re-installing.
>> >> >>> 1. Uninstall
>> >> >>> 2. Delete the folders:
>> >> >>>  - C:\ProgramData\Ableton
>> >> >>> - C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Ableton
>> >> >>> 3. Re-install Live
>> >> >>> - do NOT authorize when you start Live
>> >> >>> 4. try to find and use the plugins
>> >> >>> - if it works, try to authorize, ... then wait for a few minutes,
>> >> >>> restart Live and try to use the plugins again
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 2014-08-15 21:43 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> :
>> >> >>> > i'm really confused!
>> >> >>> > don't understand what does not work on my side
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Rory Walsh 
>> >> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> I am using my own build of Csound, but yesterday I tried csound~
>> >> >>> >> with
>> >> >>> >> Mike's package both old and new and it worked fine. Btw, I now
>> >> >>> >> have
>> >> >>> >> a
>> >> >>> >> version of Live 32bit and it sees my Cabbage32 plugins without a
>> >> >>> >> problem. This is odd, because I think we are both using the
>> >> >>> >> exact
>> >> >>> >> same
>> >> >>> >> operating systems!
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> On 15 August 2014 20:20, alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> >> 
>> >> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> > ops..sorry Reaper sees the 32 bit VST ( i've put it in the
>> >> >>> >> > wrong
>> >> >>> >> > folder
>> >> >>> >> > )
>> >> >>> >> > Ableton 32 bit still does not see it.
>> >> >>> >> > I wonder if the reasons why are similar to those that give me
>> >> >>> >> > the
>> >> >>> >> > problem
>> >> >>> >> > about csound~.
>> >> >>> >> > Still i want to report that i have no problems with csound~
>> >> >>> >> > 1.1.0
>> >> >>> >> > (
>> >> >>> >> > using
>> >> >>> >> > csound 5 ).
>> >> >>> >> > What's changed that can give problems?
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> basically i'm on windows because i can have more powerful
>> >> >>> >> >> machine
>> >> >>> >> >> at
>> >> >>> >> >> lower
>> >> >>> >> >> cost.
>> >> >>> >> >> i admit that i've got very few problems.
>> >> >>> >> >> this thing about csound is one of them.
>> >> >>> >> >> but given csound is such a complex project it's normal that
>> >> >>> >> >> some
>> >> >>> >> >> system
>> >> >>> >> >> have some weak point.
>> >> >>> >> >> Rory are you using latest Mike csound installer as i do now?
>> >> >>> >> >> or the "regular" 6.03.2 ?
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> thanks
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Michael Gogins
>> >> >>> >> >> 
>> >> >>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The
>> >> >>> >> >>> only
>> >> >>> >> >>> reason I
>> >> >>> >> >>> have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the
>> >> >>> >> >>> maintainer
>> >> >>> >> >>> of
>> >> >>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> >> >>> Windows installer for Csound.
>> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> Regards,
>> >> >>> >> >>> Mike
>> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>> >> >>> Michael Gogins
>> >> >>> >> >>> Irreducible Productions
>> >> >>> >> >>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>> >> >>> >> >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >> >>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the 32
>> >> >>> >> >>>> Cabbage
>> >> >>> >> >>>> plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up of
>> >> >>> >> >>>> Windows
>> >> >>> >> >>>> at
>> >> >>> >> >>>> this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I
>> >> >>> >> >>>> constantly
>> >> >>> >> >>>> encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> destroy
>> >> >>> >> >>>> my
>> >> >>> >> >>>> main
>> >> >>> >> >>>> user profile. And the "solution" recommended by Microsoft
>> >> >>> >> >>>> is
>> >> >>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> create
>> >> >>> >> >>>> a new user profile and start copying things manually from
>> >> >>> >> >>>> one
>> >> >>> >> >>>> account
>> >> >>> >> >>>> to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And
>> >> >>> >> >>>> their
>> >> >>> >> >>>> official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might not
>> >> >>> >> >>>> read
>> >> >>> >> >>>> your
>> >> >>> >> >>>> user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I
>> >> >>> >> >>>> understand
>> >> >>> >> >>>> that
>> >> >>> >> >>>> for most people everything works fine :)
>> >> >>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> 
>> >> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > They work just fine.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST (
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > other
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > 32
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > bit
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > VST are
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > 
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> side
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> or
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> how
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> does
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> 
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > (experimental)
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Cabbage
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > 64
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > VST works perfectly
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > load
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > it
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > in
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > bit.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > ..mhh...
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> but
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> how
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> csound~
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> just
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> work.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> which
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> helped
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> having
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> between
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> shot.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> 
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > says,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > I
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > think
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > will
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > be
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > worth a
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > try.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > related
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > access
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > or
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > setting
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dark,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > but
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > system.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > To
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > set
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > you'll
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > find
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > a
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > number
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > XP/SP2
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > In
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > this
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > exe,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > which
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > grant
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > that
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (or
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not) help:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (permissions for
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > :-)
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > :
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> something
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> do
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> with
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> admin
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> priviledges.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> 1.1.0
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Max
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> 6.1.8
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> everything
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> works fine
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> on my system.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> in
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> this
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> regards?
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> a
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>  ha
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> scritto:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> issue
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> (copied
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> into
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> with
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Cabbage
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> VSTs
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> under
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> I
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live*,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> then
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> load
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> plugin
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> different
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> versions
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> of
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> disabling
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> UAC.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Must
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> run
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> plugins
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> be
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found in
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> consistent....
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> more.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> also
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> using
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> show
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> such
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> help
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> but
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> so
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> far
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> has
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> been successful.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> :
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > working
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > there,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > it
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > narrows
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > an
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > issue
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > then
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > of
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > some
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > ticket,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > but I
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > forgot
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > and
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > csound~
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > both
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > used
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > distribute
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > In
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that's
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > name), so
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > I'll
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > include
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > (I just added
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > keep
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Enterprise
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Win
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > 7?
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > steven
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > 
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> place a
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> pthread
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> dll
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> into
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> getting
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> an
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> error
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 127.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> What
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on?
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Myself
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Oeyvind are
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Enterprise
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> has
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> been
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> route
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> of
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> quite
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> why
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> runs
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> fine
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> on
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> my
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> own.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> One
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> variable
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> that
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Michael
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and I
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> are
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> using
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> us
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> diagnose
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> this?
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> It
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> would
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 32-bit
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/),
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 6.03.2
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> online
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> After
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~.mxe
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> then
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> open
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> from
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> trying
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> load the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> posted
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> here
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>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Send bugs reports to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> posted
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> here
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>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Send bugs reports to
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>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> --
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Professor of Music Technology
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>> >> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> Professor of Music Technology
>> >> NTNU
>> >> 7491 Trondheim
>> >> Norway
>> >> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>
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Date2014-08-26 08:34
Fromalfonso santimone
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
hi all,
here's a potentially larger testing base for csound API related stuff (csound~, Cabbage, etc.)
someone report some problems with both.
i think this can an interesting potential.




Il venerdì 22 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha scritto:
I just meant that there were enough similarities in our symptoms that
it could seem to be rooted in the same actual problem.
It has been extremely difficult to track down the cause, and as usual
also difficult to show to others a problem that can not be replicated
on their machine. I thought it had something to do with the exact
version of windows, but since you do not have the same version as me
(and the problems I currently have did not show up on the previous
computer, where I actually had the same OS as you, Win 7 Pro), then it
is probably something else.
Then again, the fact that for both you and me can avoid some of the
problems by running in compatibility mode for windows XP again
suggests there is something fishy OS related.
The problems on my side can be replicated with a "hello world" plugins
that Rory compiled, one that does not load csound or cabbage at all.
It is just a JUCE framework plug compiled with mingw. My current shot
in the dark hunch is that the mingw compiled library somehow is seen
as a suspect for threat/malicious by the OS and is prevented from
running properly. This is why I tried disabling UAC. I also tried
disabling virus software, firewalls, Windows defender, looking at
system logs for things that had been prevented from running. So far
nothing.
Oeyvind

2014-08-21 15:28 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
> do you mean the cause for Live not seeing 32 bit Cabbage VST?
> could be connected with my problem with csound~ 1.1.2 and Max 6.1.8 32bit?
>
> www.elgallorojorecords.com
> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, thanks. Guess it is not as simple as the specific version of
>> windows then.... back to searching for the cause.
>>
>> 2014-08-21 12:37 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>> > i'm on Win 7 Pro 64bit
>> >
>> > Il giovedì 21 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> > <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha
>> > scritto:
>> >
>> >> Ok. So all is working well, as long as you run Live in
>> >> compatibility/admin
>> >> mode?
>> >> Good. Which version of Windows 7 do you use
>> >> (home/pro/ultimate/enterprise)?
>> >> It seems, on my end there is a difference between the professional and
>> >> enterprise versions, with less problems on the professional version.
>> >>
>> >> 2014-08-20 12:39 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>> >> > it works setting compatibility and administrator mode.
>> >> >
>> >> > strange thing is that
>> >> > Max 6.1.8 32 bit and Reaper loads the Cabbage 32bit plugs correclty
>> >> > right
>> >> > away.
>> >> >
>> >> > This implies that Max 6.1.8 is correcly calling the csound6 api i
>> >> > guess.
>> >> > So it's strange this does not happens with csound~ 1.1.2
>> >> > mhh.
>> >> > i'd definetly try to compile csound~ on my machine and see what
>> >> > happens.
>> >> > as
>> >> > soon as i get some spare time.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:59 AM, alfonso santimone
>> >> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> thanks Oeyvind.
>> >> >> i'll try in a few minutes
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Hi Alfonso,
>> >> >>> Could you try this to make Live 32 bit see the VST plugins:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 1.  Find the exe, (in C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9 Suite\Program
>> >> >>> on
>> >> >>> my machine),
>> >> >>> - right click, select properties
>> >> >>> - go to the compatibility tab, check  "run in compatibility mode"
>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>> select "Windows XP Service pack 2" as the mode
>> >> >>> - also tick "run as admin while you're on that tab
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> After this, you should be able to find the plugins.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Another thing to try is a complete uninstall/reinstall of Live, and
>> >> >>> testing of it works before authorization of Live (as is the case on
>> >> >>> my
>> >> >>> system).
>> >> >>> To do this, take care to clean out all references to Live on the
>> >> >>> computer before re-installing.
>> >> >>> 1. Uninstall
>> >> >>> 2. Delete the folders:
>> >> >>>  - C:\ProgramData\Ableton
>> >> >>> - C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Ableton
>> >> >>> 3. Re-install Live
>> >> >>> - do NOT authorize when you start Live
>> >> >>> 4. try to find and use the plugins
>> >> >>> - if it works, try to authorize, ... then wait for a few minutes,
>> >> >>> restart Live and try to use the plugins again
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 2014-08-15 21:43 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>> >> >>> > i'm really confused!
>> >> >>> > don't understand what does not work on my side
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> I am using my own build of Csound, but yesterday I tried csound~
>> >> >>> >> with
>> >> >>> >> Mike's package both old and new and it worked fine. Btw, I now
>> >> >>> >> have
>> >> >>> >> a
>> >> >>> >> version of Live 32bit and it sees my Cabbage32 plugins without a
>> >> >>> >> problem. This is odd, because I think we are both using the
>> >> >>> >> exact
>> >> >>> >> same
>> >> >>> >> operating systems!
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> On 15 August 2014 20:20, alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>> >> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> > ops..sorry Reaper sees the 32 bit VST ( i've put it in the
>> >> >>> >> > wrong
>> >> >>> >> > folder
>> >> >>> >> > )
>> >> >>> >> > Ableton 32 bit still does not see it.
>> >> >>> >> > I wonder if the reasons why are similar to those that give me
>> >> >>> >> > the
>> >> >>> >> > problem
>> >> >>> >> > about csound~.
>> >> >>> >> > Still i want to report that i have no problems with csound~
>> >> >>> >> > 1.1.0
>> >> >>> >> > (
>> >> >>> >> > using
>> >> >>> >> > csound 5 ).
>> >> >>> >> > What's changed that can give problems?
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> >> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> basically i'm on windows because i can have more powerful
>> >> >>> >> >> machine
>> >> >>> >> >> at
>> >> >>> >> >> lower
>> >> >>> >> >> cost.
>> >> >>> >> >> i admit that i've got very few problems.
>> >> >>> >> >> this thing about csound is one of them.
>> >> >>> >> >> but given csound is such a complex project it's normal that
>> >> >>> >> >> some
>> >> >>> >> >> system
>> >> >>> >> >> have some weak point.
>> >> >>> >> >> Rory are you using latest Mike csound installer as i do now?
>> >> >>> >> >> or the "regular" 6.03.2 ?
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> thanks
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Michael Gogins
>> >> >>> >> >> <michael.gogins@gmail.com>
>> >> >>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The
>> >> >>> >> >>> only
>> >> >>> >> >>> reason I
>> >> >>> >> >>> have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the
>> >> >>> >> >>> maintainer
>> >> >>> >> >>> of
>> >> >>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> >> >>> Windows installer for Csound.
>> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> Regards,
>> >> >>> >> >>> Mike
>> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>> >> >>> Michael Gogins
>> >> >>> >> >>> Irreducible Productions
>> >> >>> >> >>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>> >> >>> >> >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >> >>> >> >>> <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >> >>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the 32
>> >> >>> >> >>>> Cabbage
>> >> >>> >> >>>> plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up of
>> >> >>> >> >>>> Windows
>> >> >>> >> >>>> at
>> >> >>> >> >>>> this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I
>> >> >>> >> >>>> constantly
>> >> >>> >> >>>> encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> destroy
>> >> >>> >> >>>> my
>> >> >>> >> >>>> main
>> >> >>> >> >>>> user profile. And the "solution" recommended by Microsoft
>> >> >>> >> >>>> is
>> >> >>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> create
>> >> >>> >> >>>> a new user profile and start copying things manually from
>> >> >>> >> >>>> one
>> >> >>> >> >>>> account
>> >> >>> >> >>>> to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And
>> >> >>> >> >>>> their
>> >> >>> >> >>>> official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might not
>> >> >>> >> >>>> read
>> >> >>> >> >>>> your
>> >> >>> >> >>>> user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I
>> >> >>> >> >>>> understand
>> >> >>> >> >>>> that
>> >> >>> >> >>>> for most people everything works fine :)
>> >> >>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > They work just fine.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST (
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > other
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > 32
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > bit
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > VST are
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge )
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> > wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> side
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> or
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> how
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> does
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > (experimental)
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Cabbage
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > 64
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > VST works perfectly
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32 and
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > load
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > it
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > in
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > bit.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > ..mhh...
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per se
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> but
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> how
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> csound~
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading csound~
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> just
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> work.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> which
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> helped
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> having
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> between
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> shot.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > says,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > I
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > think
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > will
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > be
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > worth a
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > try.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > related
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > access
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware protection,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > or
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could try
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > setting
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot in
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dark,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > but
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > system.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > To
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > set
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click and
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > you'll
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > find
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > a
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > number
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > XP/SP2
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > In
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > this
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > exe,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > which
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > grant
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > that
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (or
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not) help:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (permissions for
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no guarantees
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > :-)
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > <alfonso.santimone@gmail.com>:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> something
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> do
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> with
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> admin
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> priviledges.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> 1.1.0
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Max
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> 6.1.8
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> everything
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> works fine
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> on my system.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~ 1.1.2
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> in
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> this
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> regards?
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> a
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> ha
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> scritto:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the pthreadGC2.dll
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> issue
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> (copied
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> into
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> with
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Cabbage
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> VSTs
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> under
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work *until
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> I
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live*,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> then
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can not
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> load
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> plugin
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested numerous
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> different
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> versions
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> of
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage. Tested
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> disabling
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> UAC.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Must
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> run
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> plugins
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> be
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found in
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable and
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> consistent....
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not be
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> more.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> also
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> using
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper) does
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> show
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> such
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> help
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> but
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> so
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> far
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> has
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> been successful.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> <stevenyi@gmail.com>:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > working
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > there,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > it
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > narrows
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to be
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > an
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > issue
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > then
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > of
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > some
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system then.)
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll in
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > ticket,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > but I
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > forgot
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously, Csound5
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > and
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > csound~
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > both
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > used
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > distribute
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > In
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that's
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > name), so
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > I'll
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > include
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > (I just added
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > keep
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Enterprise
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Win
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > 7?
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > steven
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did have
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> place a
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> pthread
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> dll
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> into
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> getting
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> an
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> error
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 127.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> What
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on?
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Myself
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Oeyvind are
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Enterprise
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC. That
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> has
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> been
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> route
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> of
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> quite
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> <stevenyi@gmail.com>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been diagnosing
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> why
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> runs
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> fine
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> on
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> my
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> own.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one out.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> One
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> variable
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> that
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Michael
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and I
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> are
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> using
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system help
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> us
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> diagnose
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> this?
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> It
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> would
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 32-bit
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/),
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 6.03.2
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've placed
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> online
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> After
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~.mxe
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> then
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> open
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running pluckedsynth.maxpat
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> from
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193 when
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> trying
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> to
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> load the
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
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>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> NTNU
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>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
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>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > --
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Professor of Music Technology
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > NTNU
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > 7491 Trondheim
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>> >> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>>
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>> >> >>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
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>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>> >> >>> NTNU
>> >> >>> 7491 Trondheim
>> >> >>> Norway
>> >> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> >> >>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >> >>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >> >>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Send bugs reports to
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>> >> >>> csound"
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> Professor of Music Technology
>> >> NTNU
>> >> 7491 Trondheim
>> >> Norway
>> >> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>
>> >> http://flyndresang.no/
>> >> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Send bugs reports to
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>> >> csound"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> Professor of Music Technology
>> NTNU
>> 7491 Trondheim
>> Norway
>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>
>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>
>>
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>>
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Date2014-08-27 23:49
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Request for help testing csound~ on Windows 7
Oeyvind and I got a little closer to solving the Live issue yesterday.
We managed to get the bare bones plugin working in live without any
extra messing around. I hope I can use the same compiler settings to
get Cabbage working for you. I'll keep you posted.

On 26 August 2014 09:34, alfonso santimone  wrote:
> hi all,
> here's a potentially larger testing base for csound API related stuff
> (csound~, Cabbage, etc.)
> someone report some problems with both.
> i think this can an interesting potential.
>
> http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5854589
>
>
>
> Il venerdì 22 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  ha
> scritto:
>
>> I just meant that there were enough similarities in our symptoms that
>> it could seem to be rooted in the same actual problem.
>> It has been extremely difficult to track down the cause, and as usual
>> also difficult to show to others a problem that can not be replicated
>> on their machine. I thought it had something to do with the exact
>> version of windows, but since you do not have the same version as me
>> (and the problems I currently have did not show up on the previous
>> computer, where I actually had the same OS as you, Win 7 Pro), then it
>> is probably something else.
>> Then again, the fact that for both you and me can avoid some of the
>> problems by running in compatibility mode for windows XP again
>> suggests there is something fishy OS related.
>> The problems on my side can be replicated with a "hello world" plugins
>> that Rory compiled, one that does not load csound or cabbage at all.
>> It is just a JUCE framework plug compiled with mingw. My current shot
>> in the dark hunch is that the mingw compiled library somehow is seen
>> as a suspect for threat/malicious by the OS and is prevented from
>> running properly. This is why I tried disabling UAC. I also tried
>> disabling virus software, firewalls, Windows defender, looking at
>> system logs for things that had been prevented from running. So far
>> nothing.
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2014-08-21 15:28 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> :
>> > do you mean the cause for Live not seeing 32 bit Cabbage VST?
>> > could be connected with my problem with csound~ 1.1.2 and Max 6.1.8
>> > 32bit?
>> >
>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok, thanks. Guess it is not as simple as the specific version of
>> >> windows then.... back to searching for the cause.
>> >>
>> >> 2014-08-21 12:37 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >> :
>> >> > i'm on Win 7 Pro 64bit
>> >> >
>> >> > Il giovedì 21 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >  ha
>> >> > scritto:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Ok. So all is working well, as long as you run Live in
>> >> >> compatibility/admin
>> >> >> mode?
>> >> >> Good. Which version of Windows 7 do you use
>> >> >> (home/pro/ultimate/enterprise)?
>> >> >> It seems, on my end there is a difference between the professional
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> enterprise versions, with less problems on the professional version.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2014-08-20 12:39 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >> >> :
>> >> >> > it works setting compatibility and administrator mode.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > strange thing is that
>> >> >> > Max 6.1.8 32 bit and Reaper loads the Cabbage 32bit plugs
>> >> >> > correclty
>> >> >> > right
>> >> >> > away.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > This implies that Max 6.1.8 is correcly calling the csound6 api i
>> >> >> > guess.
>> >> >> > So it's strange this does not happens with csound~ 1.1.2
>> >> >> > mhh.
>> >> >> > i'd definetly try to compile csound~ on my machine and see what
>> >> >> > happens.
>> >> >> > as
>> >> >> > soon as i get some spare time.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:59 AM, alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> thanks Oeyvind.
>> >> >> >> i'll try in a few minutes
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Hi Alfonso,
>> >> >> >>> Could you try this to make Live 32 bit see the VST plugins:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> 1.  Find the exe, (in C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9
>> >> >> >>> Suite\Program
>> >> >> >>> on
>> >> >> >>> my machine),
>> >> >> >>> - right click, select properties
>> >> >> >>> - go to the compatibility tab, check  "run in compatibility
>> >> >> >>> mode"
>> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >>> select "Windows XP Service pack 2" as the mode
>> >> >> >>> - also tick "run as admin while you're on that tab
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> After this, you should be able to find the plugins.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Another thing to try is a complete uninstall/reinstall of Live,
>> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >>> testing of it works before authorization of Live (as is the case
>> >> >> >>> on
>> >> >> >>> my
>> >> >> >>> system).
>> >> >> >>> To do this, take care to clean out all references to Live on the
>> >> >> >>> computer before re-installing.
>> >> >> >>> 1. Uninstall
>> >> >> >>> 2. Delete the folders:
>> >> >> >>>  - C:\ProgramData\Ableton
>> >> >> >>> - C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Ableton
>> >> >> >>> 3. Re-install Live
>> >> >> >>> - do NOT authorize when you start Live
>> >> >> >>> 4. try to find and use the plugins
>> >> >> >>> - if it works, try to authorize, ... then wait for a few
>> >> >> >>> minutes,
>> >> >> >>> restart Live and try to use the plugins again
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> 2014-08-15 21:43 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> :
>> >> >> >>> > i'm really confused!
>> >> >> >>> > don't understand what does not work on my side
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Rory Walsh 
>> >> >> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> I am using my own build of Csound, but yesterday I tried
>> >> >> >>> >> csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> with
>> >> >> >>> >> Mike's package both old and new and it worked fine. Btw, I
>> >> >> >>> >> now
>> >> >> >>> >> have
>> >> >> >>> >> a
>> >> >> >>> >> version of Live 32bit and it sees my Cabbage32 plugins
>> >> >> >>> >> without a
>> >> >> >>> >> problem. This is odd, because I think we are both using the
>> >> >> >>> >> exact
>> >> >> >>> >> same
>> >> >> >>> >> operating systems!
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> On 15 August 2014 20:20, alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> >> 
>> >> >> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> > ops..sorry Reaper sees the 32 bit VST ( i've put it in the
>> >> >> >>> >> > wrong
>> >> >> >>> >> > folder
>> >> >> >>> >> > )
>> >> >> >>> >> > Ableton 32 bit still does not see it.
>> >> >> >>> >> > I wonder if the reasons why are similar to those that give
>> >> >> >>> >> > me
>> >> >> >>> >> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> > problem
>> >> >> >>> >> > about csound~.
>> >> >> >>> >> > Still i want to report that i have no problems with csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> > 1.1.0
>> >> >> >>> >> > (
>> >> >> >>> >> > using
>> >> >> >>> >> > csound 5 ).
>> >> >> >>> >> > What's changed that can give problems?
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:15 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> basically i'm on windows because i can have more powerful
>> >> >> >>> >> >> machine
>> >> >> >>> >> >> at
>> >> >> >>> >> >> lower
>> >> >> >>> >> >> cost.
>> >> >> >>> >> >> i admit that i've got very few problems.
>> >> >> >>> >> >> this thing about csound is one of them.
>> >> >> >>> >> >> but given csound is such a complex project it's normal
>> >> >> >>> >> >> that
>> >> >> >>> >> >> some
>> >> >> >>> >> >> system
>> >> >> >>> >> >> have some weak point.
>> >> >> >>> >> >> Rory are you using latest Mike csound installer as i do
>> >> >> >>> >> >> now?
>> >> >> >>> >> >> or the "regular" 6.03.2 ?
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> thanks
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Michael Gogins
>> >> >> >>> >> >> 
>> >> >> >>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> I have experienced the profile problem 4 or 5 times. The
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> only
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> reason I
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> have not left Windows behind is that I am currently the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> maintainer
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> of
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> Windows installer for Csound.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> Regards,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> Mike
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> Michael Gogins
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> Irreducible Productions
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> Hmm, that's odd. My version of Reaper (64bit) sees the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> 32
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> Cabbage
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> plugins without any problems. I'm getting quite fed up
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> of
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> Windows
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> at
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> this stage. I don't use it much but when I have to I
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> constantly
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> encounter problems. Like jut today Windows decided to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> destroy
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> my
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> main
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> user profile. And the "solution" recommended by
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> Microsoft
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> is
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> create
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> a new user profile and start copying things manually
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> from
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> one
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> account
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> to the other. Please. What kind of solution is that? And
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> their
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> official help starts with "Occasionally, Windows might
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> not
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> read
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> your
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> user profile correctly"?! What? Ok sorry, rant over. I
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> understand
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> that
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> for most people everything works fine :)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 19:08, alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> 
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > I have both Live 32 and 64 for testing needs.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > They work just fine.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > Reaper see the 64 bit but not the 32 bit Cabbage VST (
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > other
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > 32
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > bit
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > VST are
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > correcly loaded and bridged by Reaper 32 to 64 bridge
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > )
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > 
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> Do you have 32 bit and 64 bit Live installed side by
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> side
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> or
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> how
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> does
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> this work? And does Reaper see the 32bit plugin?
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> On 15 August 2014 18:34, alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> 
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Just tested latest (0.5.11) Cabbage.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > strangely enough i can export 64bit VST with the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > (experimental)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Cabbage
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > 64
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > and load it with Ableton 64 bit and Reaper 64 bit.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > VST works perfectly
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > then i tried to export a 32bit VST with Cabbage 32
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > and
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > load
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > it
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > in
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > bit.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > Ableton 32bit does not see the VST...
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > ..mhh...
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> and Cabbage works perfectly with Csound6
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> so i guess the thing is not related to Csound6 per
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> se
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> but
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> how
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> 1.1.2 calls it ( well just a guess..)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> hi guys i tried everything you suggested.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i always have error 193 in Max while loading
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> strange thing is that Csound5 and csound~ 1.1.0.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> just
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> work.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm afraid this issue is very difficult to spot.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> i'm on Win 7 Professional
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.elgallorojorecords.com
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> soundcloud.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> www.facebook.com/alfonsosantimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rory Walsh
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> You could try Mike's latest installer:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a22zrzmxkmsnc23/Setup_Csound6_6.03.3p4-vst.exe
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> He is now using slightly different build options
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> which
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> helped
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> addressed some comparability issues users were
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> having
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> between
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> different versions of Windows. Might be worth a
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> shot.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 15 August 2014 14:12, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> 
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > I'm not totally sure, but if UAC does what it
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > says,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > I
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > think
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > will
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not help to enable it. One never knows, so it
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > be
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > worth a
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > try.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > It seems the problems on my system are also
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > related
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > access
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > permissions, (over sensitive) malware
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > protection,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > or
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > between windows versions. Perhaps you could
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > try
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > setting
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode for the Max executable?, ... just a shot
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > in
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dark,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > but
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > it
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > matters for Live to find the plugins on my
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > system.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > To
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > set
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > compatibility mode, find the exe, right click
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > and
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > you'll
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > find
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > a
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > number
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > of compatibility options. Here, I need to use
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > XP/SP2
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > mode.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > In
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > this
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > dialog you can also set "run as admin" for the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > exe,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > which
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > grant
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > the application more privileges.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > There are also a registry edit suggested here
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > that
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (or
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > might
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > not) help:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=43067
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > (permissions for
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Classes)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > These are things that can help, but no
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > guarantees
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > :-)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > 2014-08-15 13:42 GMT+02:00 alfonso santimone
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > :
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i guess i have UAC disabled.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> should i try to enable it?
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> i wonder if this problem on my side has
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> something
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> do
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> with
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> admin
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> priviledges.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> and the thing is that with csound 5, csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> 1.1.0
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> and
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Max
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> 6.1.8
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> everything
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> works fine
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> on my system.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> so what's changed in csound6 and csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> 1.1.2
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> in
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> this
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> regards?
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> a
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Il giovedì 14 agosto 2014, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>  ha
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> scritto:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> I tested on Win7 Enterprise just now,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and it works all ok, except the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> pthreadGC2.dll
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> issue
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> (copied
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> into
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound/bin and it is ok)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Me and Rory investiates some strange issues
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> with
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Cabbage
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> VSTs
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> under
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Ableton Live.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> The current situation is that they work
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> *until
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> I
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live*,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> then
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2 minutes later (not immediately) Live can
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> load
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> plugin
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> "because it can not be found". Tested
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> numerous
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> different
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> versions
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> of
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live and numerous versions of Cabbage.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Tested
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> disabling
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> UAC.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Must
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> run
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live in XP/SP2 compatibility mode for the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> plugins
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> be
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found in
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> first place. The process is very repeatable
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> consistent....
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> authorize Live and the Cabage VST's can not
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> be
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> found
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> more.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Live
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> can load other VSTs (including Hadron, using
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Csound
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> and
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> also
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> using
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> JUCE, like Cabbage). Other hosts (Reaper)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> does
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> show
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> any
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> such
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> problems. Ableton support has been eager to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> help
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> but
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> so
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> far
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> has
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> not
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> been successful.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> 2014-08-14 19:14 GMT+02:00 Steven Yi
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> :
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Hi Rory,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks for testing!  Very glad that it's
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > working
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > there,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > it
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > narrows
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > scope of the problem. (Seems very much to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > be
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > an
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > issue
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > then
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > of
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > some
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > conflicting .dll's on Alfonso's system
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > then.)
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > We came across the missing pthreadGC2.dll
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > in
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > ticket,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > but I
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > forgot
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to mention that.  I think previously,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Csound5
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > and
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > both
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > used
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadGC2.dll so csound~ didn't need to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > distribute
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > In
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Csound 6
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the build is using libwinpthreads (I think
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > that's
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > name), so
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > I'll
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > have to update the csound~ installer to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > include
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > pthreadsGC2.dll.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > (I just added
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/365
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > keep
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > track of that).
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > What issues are you having regarding
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Enterprise
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Win
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > 7?
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Thanks!
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > steven
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Rory
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > Walsh
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > 
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> No such problems here. Although I did
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> have
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> place a
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> pthread
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> dll
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> into
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the Csound bin folder. Before that I was
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> getting
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> an
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> error
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 127.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> What
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of Windows 7 is the problem on?
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Myself
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> and
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Oeyvind are
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> currently having some problems with the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Enterprise
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> version of
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Windows
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 7. I wonder has Alfonso disabled UAC.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> That
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> has
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> been
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> route
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> of
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> quite
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> a few problems on Windows.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> On 14 August 2014 18:11, Steven Yi
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> 
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Hi All,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso, Michael and I have been
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> diagnosing
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> why
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound6 is
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> not loading on Alfonso's system, though
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> runs
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> fine
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> on
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> my
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> own.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (It's
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> been tracked in
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/345).
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> We're
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> sort of struggling to figure this one
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> out.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> One
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> variable
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> that
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso is on a Windows 7 system while
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Michael
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and I
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> are
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> using
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 8 and Windows Server 2012 respectively.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Could someone with a Windows 7 system
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> help
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> us
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> diagnose
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> this?
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> It
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> would
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> require downloading the Max Runtime for
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 32-bit
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime/),
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Csound
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> 6.03.2
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> for
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Windows
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.03/Setup_Csound6_6.03.2.exe/download),
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> and a recent compile of csound~ I've
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> placed
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> online
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> (http://www.kunstmusik.com/csound~_1.1.2.exe).
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> After
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> installing, copy
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the examples from the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> %HOME%/Documents/Max/csound~_v1.1.2/examples
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder up one directory to where the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~.mxe
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> is,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> then
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> open
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Max
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Runtime and try running
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> pluckedsynth.maxpat
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> from
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> folder
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> containing
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> the csound~.mxe.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Alfonso has been getting an Error 193
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> when
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> trying
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> load the
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> csound~
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> object, while I have not had problems.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Help testing would be appreciated.
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> steven
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
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>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> posted
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> here
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>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> with
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> body
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> Send bugs reports to
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> --
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Professor of Music Technology
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>> >> >> >>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >>
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>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >> >>> Professor of Music Technology
>> >> >> >>> NTNU
>> >> >> >>> 7491 Trondheim
>> >> >> >>> Norway
>> >> >> >>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> >> >> >>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
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>> >> >> >>>
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>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> >> Professor of Music Technology
>> >> >> NTNU
>> >> >> 7491 Trondheim
>> >> >> Norway
>> >> >> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://flyndresang.no/
>> >> >> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >> >> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >> >> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
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>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> >> Professor of Music Technology
>> >> NTNU
>> >> 7491 Trondheim
>> >> Norway
>> >> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> >>
>> >> http://flyndresang.no/
>> >> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> >> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> >> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Send bugs reports to
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> Professor of Music Technology
>> NTNU
>> 7491 Trondheim
>> Norway
>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>
>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
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>>
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