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[Csnd] Arrays from a musical viewpoint.

Date2014-08-06 07:02
Fromorebronerd
Subject[Csnd] Arrays from a musical viewpoint.
I am planning to learn more about arrays this summer. I think I know what
they are from a mathematical standpoint, and I think I know how to use them
technically, at least the basics. I am more lost about what to do with them
in a more musical sense. Does anyone like to share their ideas on how you
use them in composing, or can point to articles etc that discusses this? I
have only found articles that discuss technicalities. A very broad question,
but I can't phrase it more specific. 



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Date2014-08-06 10:54
FromAskwazzup
Subject[Csnd] Re: Arrays from a musical viewpoint.
Well, i haven't yet examined csound arrays all that much and haven't composed
with csound, but from the top of my head i guess you could fill an array
with a limited amount of random (or specific) frequencies, or amplitudes
etc. and then use them on a few instruments instead of having to write them
down every time, or count on a random generator to make satisfying
decisions. 



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Date2014-08-06 11:04
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Arrays from a musical viewpoint.
yes, you can do that with arrays or with function tables.
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On 6 Aug 2014, at 10:54, Askwazzup  wrote:

> Well, i haven't yet examined csound arrays all that much and haven't composed
> with csound, but from the top of my head i guess you could fill an array
> with a limited amount of random (or specific) frequencies, or amplitudes
> etc. and then use them on a few instruments instead of having to write them
> down every time, or count on a random generator to make satisfying
> decisions. 
> 
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Date2014-08-06 11:57
Fromorebronerd
Subject[Csnd] Re: Arrays from a musical viewpoint.
Thank you for your replies. I have done some of that with ftgen 2. In this
piece for example, https://soundcloud.com/fadern/bata  In the second half
you hear som marimba- and kora-like sounds. 
I stored a just intonation scale in a ftgen table, and had a loop that
generated notes and randomly fetched a pitch from the table. I am more
interested in what is new with arrays compared to ftgen 2 for example, and
how to use them to something musically meaningful. I think I know the
technicalities: I can add them, multiply etc, but I get no ideas on how to
use them musically. 



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Date2014-08-06 12:09
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: Arrays from a musical viewpoint.
The main reason I use arrays is to simplify audio routing code. Instead of one variable for each channel of audio that goes to an instrument, I use one variable for all the channels.

Regards,
Mike


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On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:57 AM, orebronerd <martino.flodino@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for your replies. I have done some of that with ftgen 2. In this
piece for example, https://soundcloud.com/fadern/bata  In the second half
you hear som marimba- and kora-like sounds.
I stored a just intonation scale in a ftgen table, and had a loop that
generated notes and randomly fetched a pitch from the table. I am more
interested in what is new with arrays compared to ftgen 2 for example, and
how to use them to something musically meaningful. I think I know the
technicalities: I can add them, multiply etc, but I get no ideas on how to
use them musically.



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Date2014-08-06 12:09
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: Arrays from a musical viewpoint.
hmm just my 2c:
One could say that arrays are just more sophisticated ways of storing
a collection of values. One nice thing is the efficiency of processing
and transformation, giving the opportunity to work with larger
collections of data. Another point is the possibility of creating
multidimensional data, linking different aspects/features/signals. For
the efficiency aspect one could think in terms of signal block
processing (like spectral data, fft frames, but not limited to that),
for the multidimensional aspect one could perhaps think in terms of
the harmonic models of Tymoczko (that also Michael Gogins has touched
on).
I'd say there is not really a definite musical application of arrays,
it is more that it can be practical to use them in cases where the
task otherwise gets too complex or complicated.


2014-08-06 12:57 GMT+02:00 orebronerd :
> Thank you for your replies. I have done some of that with ftgen 2. In this
> piece for example, https://soundcloud.com/fadern/bata  In the second half
> you hear som marimba- and kora-like sounds.
> I stored a just intonation scale in a ftgen table, and had a loop that
> generated notes and randomly fetched a pitch from the table. I am more
> interested in what is new with arrays compared to ftgen 2 for example, and
> how to use them to something musically meaningful. I think I know the
> technicalities: I can add them, multiply etc, but I get no ideas on how to
> use them musically.
>
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Date2014-08-06 19:39
Fromorebronerd
Subject[Csnd] Re: Arrays from a musical viewpoint.
Thank you for the response. Like Yoda I have to meditate on this. :-) I guess
the more you work with it, the more ideas come up, as usual. 



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Date2014-08-06 20:53
Frommenno
Subject[Csnd] Re: Arrays from a musical viewpoint.
there are some nice musical examples in
http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/random/ , created by Joachim Heintz.




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