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Date2010-05-15 16:41
FromAnthony Palomba
Subject[Csnd] MIDI controlled envelope...
I want to create a MIDI instrument that allows me to control the
attack and release of notes when played by MIDI.

This is my sample instrument...

instr 1
    iCPS cpsmidi
    iAmp veloc 0.01, 1

    a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1   

    ; Apply the amp envelope and velocity.
    a1 = a1 * iAmp

    outs a1, a1
endin


Controlling the envelope attack time is easy. The problem
is how can I tell when the note off occurs so I can
determine the release time?



Thanks,
Anthony


Date2010-05-15 16:51
FromVictor Lazzarini
Subject[Csnd] Re: MIDI controlled envelope...
You can use the 'release' opcode.
On 15 May 2010, at 16:41, Anthony Palomba wrote:

> I want to create a MIDI instrument that allows me to control the
> attack and release of notes when played by MIDI.
>
> This is my sample instrument...
>
> instr 1
>     iCPS cpsmidi
>     iAmp veloc 0.01, 1
>
>     a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>
>     ; Apply the amp envelope and velocity.
>     a1 = a1 * iAmp
>
>     outs a1, a1
> endin
>
>
> Controlling the envelope attack time is easy. The problem
> is how can I tell when the note off occurs so I can
> determine the release time?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>



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Date2010-05-15 17:17
FromAndres Cabrera
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: MIDI controlled envelope...
Or any of the 'r' family of opcodes: madsr, linenr, expsegr, etc.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Victor Lazzarini
 wrote:
> You can use the 'release' opcode.
> On 15 May 2010, at 16:41, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>
>> I want to create a MIDI instrument that allows me to control the
>> attack and release of notes when played by MIDI.
>>
>> This is my sample instrument...
>>
>> instr 1
>>    iCPS cpsmidi
>>    iAmp veloc 0.01, 1
>>
>>    a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>
>>    ; Apply the amp envelope and velocity.
>>    a1 = a1 * iAmp
>>
>>    outs a1, a1
>> endin
>>
>>
>> Controlling the envelope attack time is easy. The problem
>> is how can I tell when the note off occurs so I can
>> determine the release time?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anthony
>>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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> csound"
>
>



-- 


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Date2010-05-15 18:29
FromRory Walsh
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: MIDI controlled envelope...
You may also want to look at using the MIDI/Score Interoperability
opcodes which eliminates the use of midicps and opcodes like that.
Using these opcodes allows you to pass midi data to instruments using
p-fields. This means you don't need to hardcode any midi opcodes
directly into your instruments.

Rory.




On 15 May 2010 17:17, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> Or any of the 'r' family of opcodes: madsr, linenr, expsegr, etc.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>  wrote:
>> You can use the 'release' opcode.
>> On 15 May 2010, at 16:41, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>>
>>> I want to create a MIDI instrument that allows me to control the
>>> attack and release of notes when played by MIDI.
>>>
>>> This is my sample instrument...
>>>
>>> instr 1
>>>    iCPS cpsmidi
>>>    iAmp veloc 0.01, 1
>>>
>>>    a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>>
>>>    ; Apply the amp envelope and velocity.
>>>    a1 = a1 * iAmp
>>>
>>>    outs a1, a1
>>> endin
>>>
>>>
>>> Controlling the envelope attack time is easy. The problem
>>> is how can I tell when the note off occurs so I can
>>> determine the release time?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>> csound"
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Andrés
>
>
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Date2010-05-16 19:07
FromAnthony Palomba
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: MIDI controlled envelope...
Hey guys, thanks for the replies. madsr is what I went with.
This is what I have so far...

; simple sine wave instrument
instr 1

    ; MIDI input
    iCPS cpsmidi
    iVel veloc 0.01, 1

    ; ADSR values
    iattack = 0.15
    idecay = 0
    isustain = 1
    irelease = 0.5
    aenv madsr iattack, idecay, isustain, irelease

    a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1   
    a1 = a1 * aenv     ; Apply the amp envelope
    a1 = a1 * iVel     ; scale for velocity
    outs a1, a1
endin


The problem I have now is that when I play multiple notes,
I tend to get a lot of samples out of range. Is there a way to tell
csound to scale the output of each voice so that I do not get
distortion.



-ap



On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
You may also want to look at using the MIDI/Score Interoperability
opcodes which eliminates the use of midicps and opcodes like that.
Using these opcodes allows you to pass midi data to instruments using
p-fields. This means you don't need to hardcode any midi opcodes
directly into your instruments.

Rory.




On 15 May 2010 17:17, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:
> Or any of the 'r' family of opcodes: madsr, linenr, expsegr, etc.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Victor Lazzarini
> <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
>> You can use the 'release' opcode.
>> On 15 May 2010, at 16:41, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>>
>>> I want to create a MIDI instrument that allows me to control the
>>> attack and release of notes when played by MIDI.
>>>
>>> This is my sample instrument...
>>>
>>> instr 1
>>>    iCPS cpsmidi
>>>    iAmp veloc 0.01, 1
>>>
>>>    a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>>
>>>    ; Apply the amp envelope and velocity.
>>>    a1 = a1 * iAmp
>>>
>>>    outs a1, a1
>>> endin
>>>
>>>
>>> Controlling the envelope attack time is easy. The problem
>>> is how can I tell when the note off occurs so I can
>>> determine the release time?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>> csound"
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Andrés
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>
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Date2010-05-16 19:45
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MIDI controlled envelope...
The most common thing to do is to just scale everything down.
e.g.
a1 = a1 *0.3

The sum output will be significantly higher when you play more notes,
but this is quite natural. If you think of how e.g. an acoustic piano
works, it will also create a louder sound when you play more notes
simultaneously.

best
Oeyvind

2010/5/16 Anthony Palomba :
> Hey guys, thanks for the replies. madsr is what I went with.
> This is what I have so far...
>
> ; simple sine wave instrument
> instr 1
>
>     ; MIDI input
>     iCPS cpsmidi
>     iVel veloc 0.01, 1
>
>     ; ADSR values
>     iattack = 0.15
>     idecay = 0
>     isustain = 1
>     irelease = 0.5
>     aenv madsr iattack, idecay, isustain, irelease
>
>     a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>     a1 = a1 * aenv     ; Apply the amp envelope
>     a1 = a1 * iVel     ; scale for velocity
>     outs a1, a1
> endin
>
>
> The problem I have now is that when I play multiple notes,
> I tend to get a lot of samples out of range. Is there a way to tell
> csound to scale the output of each voice so that I do not get
> distortion.
>
>
>
> -ap
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>
>> You may also want to look at using the MIDI/Score Interoperability
>> opcodes which eliminates the use of midicps and opcodes like that.
>> Using these opcodes allows you to pass midi data to instruments using
>> p-fields. This means you don't need to hardcode any midi opcodes
>> directly into your instruments.
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15 May 2010 17:17, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
>> > Or any of the 'r' family of opcodes: madsr, linenr, expsegr, etc.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Andrés
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>> >  wrote:
>> >> You can use the 'release' opcode.
>> >> On 15 May 2010, at 16:41, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I want to create a MIDI instrument that allows me to control the
>> >>> attack and release of notes when played by MIDI.
>> >>>
>> >>> This is my sample instrument...
>> >>>
>> >>> instr 1
>> >>>    iCPS cpsmidi
>> >>>    iAmp veloc 0.01, 1
>> >>>
>> >>>    a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>> >>>
>> >>>    ; Apply the amp envelope and velocity.
>> >>>    a1 = a1 * iAmp
>> >>>
>> >>>    outs a1, a1
>> >>> endin
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Controlling the envelope attack time is easy. The problem
>> >>> is how can I tell when the note off occurs so I can
>> >>> determine the release time?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Anthony
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >> "unsubscribe
>> >> csound"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> > Andrés
>> >
>> >
>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> > csound"
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>> csound"
>>
>
>


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Date2010-05-16 19:51
FromFelipe Sateler
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MIDI controlled envelope...
But the piano does not have an amplitude proportional to the number of
notes played. Or does it?

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 14:45, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> The most common thing to do is to just scale everything down.
> e.g.
> a1 = a1 *0.3
>
> The sum output will be significantly higher when you play more notes,
> but this is quite natural. If you think of how e.g. an acoustic piano
> works, it will also create a louder sound when you play more notes
> simultaneously.
>
> best
> Oeyvind
>
> 2010/5/16 Anthony Palomba :
>> Hey guys, thanks for the replies. madsr is what I went with.
>> This is what I have so far...
>>
>> ; simple sine wave instrument
>> instr 1
>>
>>     ; MIDI input
>>     iCPS cpsmidi
>>     iVel veloc 0.01, 1
>>
>>     ; ADSR values
>>     iattack = 0.15
>>     idecay = 0
>>     isustain = 1
>>     irelease = 0.5
>>     aenv madsr iattack, idecay, isustain, irelease
>>
>>     a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>     a1 = a1 * aenv     ; Apply the amp envelope
>>     a1 = a1 * iVel     ; scale for velocity
>>     outs a1, a1
>> endin
>>
>>
>> The problem I have now is that when I play multiple notes,
>> I tend to get a lot of samples out of range. Is there a way to tell
>> csound to scale the output of each voice so that I do not get
>> distortion.
>>
>>
>>
>> -ap
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>
>>> You may also want to look at using the MIDI/Score Interoperability
>>> opcodes which eliminates the use of midicps and opcodes like that.
>>> Using these opcodes allows you to pass midi data to instruments using
>>> p-fields. This means you don't need to hardcode any midi opcodes
>>> directly into your instruments.
>>>
>>> Rory.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15 May 2010 17:17, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
>>> > Or any of the 'r' family of opcodes: madsr, linenr, expsegr, etc.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Andrés
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >> You can use the 'release' opcode.
>>> >> On 15 May 2010, at 16:41, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> I want to create a MIDI instrument that allows me to control the
>>> >>> attack and release of notes when played by MIDI.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> This is my sample instrument...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> instr 1
>>> >>>    iCPS cpsmidi
>>> >>>    iAmp veloc 0.01, 1
>>> >>>
>>> >>>    a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>> >>>
>>> >>>    ; Apply the amp envelope and velocity.
>>> >>>    a1 = a1 * iAmp
>>> >>>
>>> >>>    outs a1, a1
>>> >>> endin
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Controlling the envelope attack time is easy. The problem
>>> >>> is how can I tell when the note off occurs so I can
>>> >>> determine the release time?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Anthony
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>> >>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >> "unsubscribe
>>> >> csound"
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Andrés
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>> >            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>> > csound"
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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>>> csound"
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>



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Saludos,
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Date2010-05-16 19:58
FromVictor Lazzarini
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MIDI controlled envelope...
You will need to set a certain headroom instead.
On 16 May 2010, at 19:51, Felipe Sateler wrote:

> But the piano does not have an amplitude proportional to the number of
> notes played. Or does it?
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 14:45, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  
>  wrote:
>> The most common thing to do is to just scale everything down.
>> e.g.
>> a1 = a1 *0.3
>>
>> The sum output will be significantly higher when you play more notes,
>> but this is quite natural. If you think of how e.g. an acoustic piano
>> works, it will also create a louder sound when you play more notes
>> simultaneously.
>>
>> best
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2010/5/16 Anthony Palomba :
>>> Hey guys, thanks for the replies. madsr is what I went with.
>>> This is what I have so far...
>>>
>>> ; simple sine wave instrument
>>> instr 1
>>>
>>>     ; MIDI input
>>>     iCPS cpsmidi
>>>     iVel veloc 0.01, 1
>>>
>>>     ; ADSR values
>>>     iattack = 0.15
>>>     idecay = 0
>>>     isustain = 1
>>>     irelease = 0.5
>>>     aenv madsr iattack, idecay, isustain, irelease
>>>
>>>     a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>>     a1 = a1 * aenv     ; Apply the amp envelope
>>>     a1 = a1 * iVel     ; scale for velocity
>>>     outs a1, a1
>>> endin
>>>
>>>
>>> The problem I have now is that when I play multiple notes,
>>> I tend to get a lot of samples out of range. Is there a way to tell
>>> csound to scale the output of each voice so that I do not get
>>> distortion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -ap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Rory Walsh   
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You may also want to look at using the MIDI/Score Interoperability
>>>> opcodes which eliminates the use of midicps and opcodes like that.
>>>> Using these opcodes allows you to pass midi data to instruments  
>>>> using
>>>> p-fields. This means you don't need to hardcode any midi opcodes
>>>> directly into your instruments.
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15 May 2010 17:17, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
>>>>> Or any of the 'r' family of opcodes: madsr, linenr, expsegr, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> You can use the 'release' opcode.
>>>>>> On 15 May 2010, at 16:41, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want to create a MIDI instrument that allows me to control the
>>>>>>> attack and release of notes when played by MIDI.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is my sample instrument...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> instr 1
>>>>>>>    iCPS cpsmidi
>>>>>>>    iAmp veloc 0.01, 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    ; Apply the amp envelope and velocity.
>>>>>>>    a1 = a1 * iAmp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    outs a1, a1
>>>>>>> endin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Controlling the envelope attack time is easy. The problem
>>>>>>> is how can I tell when the note off occurs so I can
>>>>>>> determine the release time?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Anthony
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
> -- 
>
> Saludos,
> Felipe Sateler
>
>
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Date2010-05-16 19:59
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MIDI controlled envelope...
Well, it is proportional, but not twice as high for two notes as for
one (and so on).
Neither will the Csound instrument do this, unless the added notes
have exactly the same frequency and phase.
best
Oeyvind

2010/5/16 Felipe Sateler :
> But the piano does not have an amplitude proportional to the number of
> notes played. Or does it?
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 14:45, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>> The most common thing to do is to just scale everything down.
>> e.g.
>> a1 = a1 *0.3
>>
>> The sum output will be significantly higher when you play more notes,
>> but this is quite natural. If you think of how e.g. an acoustic piano
>> works, it will also create a louder sound when you play more notes
>> simultaneously.
>>
>> best
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2010/5/16 Anthony Palomba :
>>> Hey guys, thanks for the replies. madsr is what I went with.
>>> This is what I have so far...
>>>
>>> ; simple sine wave instrument
>>> instr 1
>>>
>>>     ; MIDI input
>>>     iCPS cpsmidi
>>>     iVel veloc 0.01, 1
>>>
>>>     ; ADSR values
>>>     iattack = 0.15
>>>     idecay = 0
>>>     isustain = 1
>>>     irelease = 0.5
>>>     aenv madsr iattack, idecay, isustain, irelease
>>>
>>>     a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>>     a1 = a1 * aenv     ; Apply the amp envelope
>>>     a1 = a1 * iVel     ; scale for velocity
>>>     outs a1, a1
>>> endin
>>>
>>>
>>> The problem I have now is that when I play multiple notes,
>>> I tend to get a lot of samples out of range. Is there a way to tell
>>> csound to scale the output of each voice so that I do not get
>>> distortion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -ap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You may also want to look at using the MIDI/Score Interoperability
>>>> opcodes which eliminates the use of midicps and opcodes like that.
>>>> Using these opcodes allows you to pass midi data to instruments using
>>>> p-fields. This means you don't need to hardcode any midi opcodes
>>>> directly into your instruments.
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15 May 2010 17:17, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
>>>> > Or any of the 'r' family of opcodes: madsr, linenr, expsegr, etc.
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers,
>>>> > Andrés
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>> >  wrote:
>>>> >> You can use the 'release' opcode.
>>>> >> On 15 May 2010, at 16:41, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> I want to create a MIDI instrument that allows me to control the
>>>> >>> attack and release of notes when played by MIDI.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> This is my sample instrument...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> instr 1
>>>> >>>    iCPS cpsmidi
>>>> >>>    iAmp veloc 0.01, 1
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>    a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>    ; Apply the amp envelope and velocity.
>>>> >>>    a1 = a1 * iAmp
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>    outs a1, a1
>>>> >>> endin
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Controlling the envelope attack time is easy. The problem
>>>> >>> is how can I tell when the note off occurs so I can
>>>> >>> determine the release time?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Thanks,
>>>> >>> Anthony
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>> >>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> >> "unsubscribe
>>>> >> csound"
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Andrés
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>> >            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>>> > csound"
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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>
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Date2010-05-16 20:37
FromFelipe Sateler
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MIDI controlled envelope...
I know it is not twice as high, because it will depend on the phase
and frequency of the notes played, as you note. However, what I had in
mind is that there is an upper bound to how high an amplitude can a
piano emit, because the amplitude is mostly determined by the
resonance box, not the source vibration in the string.

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 14:59, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> Well, it is proportional, but not twice as high for two notes as for
> one (and so on).
> Neither will the Csound instrument do this, unless the added notes
> have exactly the same frequency and phase.
> best
> Oeyvind
>
> 2010/5/16 Felipe Sateler :
>> But the piano does not have an amplitude proportional to the number of
>> notes played. Or does it?
>>
>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 14:45, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>> The most common thing to do is to just scale everything down.
>>> e.g.
>>> a1 = a1 *0.3
>>>
>>> The sum output will be significantly higher when you play more notes,
>>> but this is quite natural. If you think of how e.g. an acoustic piano
>>> works, it will also create a louder sound when you play more notes
>>> simultaneously.
>>>
>>> best
>>> Oeyvind
>>>
>>> 2010/5/16 Anthony Palomba :
>>>> Hey guys, thanks for the replies. madsr is what I went with.
>>>> This is what I have so far...
>>>>
>>>> ; simple sine wave instrument
>>>> instr 1
>>>>
>>>>     ; MIDI input
>>>>     iCPS cpsmidi
>>>>     iVel veloc 0.01, 1
>>>>
>>>>     ; ADSR values
>>>>     iattack = 0.15
>>>>     idecay = 0
>>>>     isustain = 1
>>>>     irelease = 0.5
>>>>     aenv madsr iattack, idecay, isustain, irelease
>>>>
>>>>     a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>>>     a1 = a1 * aenv     ; Apply the amp envelope
>>>>     a1 = a1 * iVel     ; scale for velocity
>>>>     outs a1, a1
>>>> endin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The problem I have now is that when I play multiple notes,
>>>> I tend to get a lot of samples out of range. Is there a way to tell
>>>> csound to scale the output of each voice so that I do not get
>>>> distortion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -ap
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You may also want to look at using the MIDI/Score Interoperability
>>>>> opcodes which eliminates the use of midicps and opcodes like that.
>>>>> Using these opcodes allows you to pass midi data to instruments using
>>>>> p-fields. This means you don't need to hardcode any midi opcodes
>>>>> directly into your instruments.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15 May 2010 17:17, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
>>>>> > Or any of the 'r' family of opcodes: madsr, linenr, expsegr, etc.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Cheers,
>>>>> > Andrés
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> >  wrote:
>>>>> >> You can use the 'release' opcode.
>>>>> >> On 15 May 2010, at 16:41, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> I want to create a MIDI instrument that allows me to control the
>>>>> >>> attack and release of notes when played by MIDI.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> This is my sample instrument...
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> instr 1
>>>>> >>>    iCPS cpsmidi
>>>>> >>>    iAmp veloc 0.01, 1
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>    a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>    ; Apply the amp envelope and velocity.
>>>>> >>>    a1 = a1 * iAmp
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>    outs a1, a1
>>>>> >>> endin
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Controlling the envelope attack time is easy. The problem
>>>>> >>> is how can I tell when the note off occurs so I can
>>>>> >>> determine the release time?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Thanks,
>>>>> >>> Anthony
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>> >>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>> >> "unsubscribe
>>>>> >> csound"
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Andrés
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>> >            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>>>> > csound"
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Saludos,
>> Felipe Sateler
>>
>>
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Date2010-05-16 20:45
FromAnthony Palomba
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MIDI controlled envelope...
Wow, I would think that by now csound would be able to manage
mixing of polyphony better.

Is there a way I can get the number of voices that are currently playing?



-ap



On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <obrandts@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, it is proportional, but not twice as high for two notes as for
one (and so on).
Neither will the Csound instrument do this, unless the added notes
have exactly the same frequency and phase.
best
Oeyvind

2010/5/16 Felipe Sateler <fsateler@gmail.com>:
> But the piano does not have an amplitude proportional to the number of
> notes played. Or does it?
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 14:45, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <obrandts@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The most common thing to do is to just scale everything down.
>> e.g.
>> a1 = a1 *0.3
>>
>> The sum output will be significantly higher when you play more notes,
>> but this is quite natural. If you think of how e.g. an acoustic piano
>> works, it will also create a louder sound when you play more notes
>> simultaneously.
>>
>> best
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2010/5/16 Anthony Palomba <apalomba@austin.rr.com>:
>>> Hey guys, thanks for the replies. madsr is what I went with.
>>> This is what I have so far...
>>>
>>> ; simple sine wave instrument
>>> instr 1
>>>
>>>     ; MIDI input
>>>     iCPS cpsmidi
>>>     iVel veloc 0.01, 1
>>>
>>>     ; ADSR values
>>>     iattack = 0.15
>>>     idecay = 0
>>>     isustain = 1
>>>     irelease = 0.5
>>>     aenv madsr iattack, idecay, isustain, irelease
>>>
>>>     a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>>     a1 = a1 * aenv     ; Apply the amp envelope
>>>     a1 = a1 * iVel     ; scale for velocity
>>>     outs a1, a1
>>> endin
>>>
>>>
>>> The problem I have now is that when I play multiple notes,
>>> I tend to get a lot of samples out of range. Is there a way to tell
>>> csound to scale the output of each voice so that I do not get
>>> distortion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -ap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You may also want to look at using the MIDI/Score Interoperability
>>>> opcodes which eliminates the use of midicps and opcodes like that.
>>>> Using these opcodes allows you to pass midi data to instruments using
>>>> p-fields. This means you don't need to hardcode any midi opcodes
>>>> directly into your instruments.
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15 May 2010 17:17, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Or any of the 'r' family of opcodes: madsr, linenr, expsegr, etc.
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers,
>>>> > Andrés
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>> > <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
>>>> >> You can use the 'release' opcode.
>>>> >> On 15 May 2010, at 16:41, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> I want to create a MIDI instrument that allows me to control the
>>>> >>> attack and release of notes when played by MIDI.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> This is my sample instrument...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> instr 1
>>>> >>>    iCPS cpsmidi
>>>> >>>    iAmp veloc 0.01, 1
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>    a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>    ; Apply the amp envelope and velocity.
>>>> >>>    a1 = a1 * iAmp
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>    outs a1, a1
>>>> >>> endin
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Controlling the envelope attack time is easy. The problem
>>>> >>> is how can I tell when the note off occurs so I can
>>>> >>> determine the release time?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Thanks,
>>>> >>> Anthony
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>> >>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> >> "unsubscribe
>>>> >> csound"
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Andrés
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>> >            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
> --
>
> Saludos,
> Felipe Sateler
>
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Date2010-05-16 22:03
FromVictor Lazzarini
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MIDI controlled envelope...
What do you mean? No system does that. What your synth box usually do is to have
enough headroom to play max polyphony without clipping.

My old emulator sampler has even a parameter to set extra headroom if you ran out of it.

Regards

Victor


On 16 May 2010, at 20:45, Anthony Palomba wrote:

Wow, I would think that by now csound would be able to manage
mixing of polyphony better.

Is there a way I can get the number of voices that are currently playing?



-ap



On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <obrandts@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, it is proportional, but not twice as high for two notes as for
one (and so on).
Neither will the Csound instrument do this, unless the added notes
have exactly the same frequency and phase.
best
Oeyvind

2010/5/16 Felipe Sateler <fsateler@gmail.com>:
> But the piano does not have an amplitude proportional to the number of
> notes played. Or does it?
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 14:45, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <obrandts@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The most common thing to do is to just scale everything down.
>> e.g.
>> a1 = a1 *0.3
>>
>> The sum output will be significantly higher when you play more notes,
>> but this is quite natural. If you think of how e.g. an acoustic piano
>> works, it will also create a louder sound when you play more notes
>> simultaneously.
>>
>> best
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2010/5/16 Anthony Palomba <apalomba@austin.rr.com>:
>>> Hey guys, thanks for the replies. madsr is what I went with.
>>> This is what I have so far...
>>>
>>> ; simple sine wave instrument
>>> instr 1
>>>
>>>     ; MIDI input
>>>     iCPS cpsmidi
>>>     iVel veloc 0.01, 1
>>>
>>>     ; ADSR values
>>>     iattack = 0.15
>>>     idecay = 0
>>>     isustain = 1
>>>     irelease = 0.5
>>>     aenv madsr iattack, idecay, isustain, irelease
>>>
>>>     a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>>     a1 = a1 * aenv     ; Apply the amp envelope
>>>     a1 = a1 * iVel     ; scale for velocity
>>>     outs a1, a1
>>> endin
>>>
>>>
>>> The problem I have now is that when I play multiple notes,
>>> I tend to get a lot of samples out of range. Is there a way to tell
>>> csound to scale the output of each voice so that I do not get
>>> distortion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -ap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You may also want to look at using the MIDI/Score Interoperability
>>>> opcodes which eliminates the use of midicps and opcodes like that.
>>>> Using these opcodes allows you to pass midi data to instruments using
>>>> p-fields. This means you don't need to hardcode any midi opcodes
>>>> directly into your instruments.
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15 May 2010 17:17, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Or any of the 'r' family of opcodes: madsr, linenr, expsegr, etc.
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers,
>>>> > Andrés
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>> > <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
>>>> >> You can use the 'release' opcode.
>>>> >> On 15 May 2010, at 16:41, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> I want to create a MIDI instrument that allows me to control the
>>>> >>> attack and release of notes when played by MIDI.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> This is my sample instrument...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> instr 1
>>>> >>>    iCPS cpsmidi
>>>> >>>    iAmp veloc 0.01, 1
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>    a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>    ; Apply the amp envelope and velocity.
>>>> >>>    a1 = a1 * iAmp
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>    outs a1, a1
>>>> >>> endin
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Controlling the envelope attack time is easy. The problem
>>>> >>> is how can I tell when the note off occurs so I can
>>>> >>> determine the release time?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Thanks,
>>>> >>> Anthony
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>> >>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> >> "unsubscribe
>>>> >> csound"
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Andrés
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>> >            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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>
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Date2010-05-16 22:38
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MIDI controlled envelope...
agreed, as it would make any previously sounding notes suddenly drop
in amplitude when new notes were added.
Or is there some clever trick you're suggesting that we're unaware of?
all best
Oeyvind

2010/5/16 Victor Lazzarini :
> What do you mean? No system does that. What your synth box usually do is to
> have
> enough headroom to play max polyphony without clipping.
> My old emulator sampler has even a parameter to set extra headroom if you
> ran out of it.
> Regards
> Victor
>
> On 16 May 2010, at 20:45, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>
> Wow, I would think that by now csound would be able to manage
> mixing of polyphony better.
>
> Is there a way I can get the number of voices that are currently playing?
>
>
>
> -ap
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg 
> wrote:
>>
>> Well, it is proportional, but not twice as high for two notes as for
>> one (and so on).
>> Neither will the Csound instrument do this, unless the added notes
>> have exactly the same frequency and phase.
>> best
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2010/5/16 Felipe Sateler :
>> > But the piano does not have an amplitude proportional to the number of
>> > notes played. Or does it?
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 14:45, Oeyvind Brandtsegg 
>> > wrote:
>> >> The most common thing to do is to just scale everything down.
>> >> e.g.
>> >> a1 = a1 *0.3
>> >>
>> >> The sum output will be significantly higher when you play more notes,
>> >> but this is quite natural. If you think of how e.g. an acoustic piano
>> >> works, it will also create a louder sound when you play more notes
>> >> simultaneously.
>> >>
>> >> best
>> >> Oeyvind
>> >>
>> >> 2010/5/16 Anthony Palomba :
>> >>> Hey guys, thanks for the replies. madsr is what I went with.
>> >>> This is what I have so far...
>> >>>
>> >>> ; simple sine wave instrument
>> >>> instr 1
>> >>>
>> >>>     ; MIDI input
>> >>>     iCPS cpsmidi
>> >>>     iVel veloc 0.01, 1
>> >>>
>> >>>     ; ADSR values
>> >>>     iattack = 0.15
>> >>>     idecay = 0
>> >>>     isustain = 1
>> >>>     irelease = 0.5
>> >>>     aenv madsr iattack, idecay, isustain, irelease
>> >>>
>> >>>     a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>> >>>     a1 = a1 * aenv     ; Apply the amp envelope
>> >>>     a1 = a1 * iVel     ; scale for velocity
>> >>>     outs a1, a1
>> >>> endin
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> The problem I have now is that when I play multiple notes,
>> >>> I tend to get a lot of samples out of range. Is there a way to tell
>> >>> csound to scale the output of each voice so that I do not get
>> >>> distortion.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -ap
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You may also want to look at using the MIDI/Score Interoperability
>> >>>> opcodes which eliminates the use of midicps and opcodes like that.
>> >>>> Using these opcodes allows you to pass midi data to instruments using
>> >>>> p-fields. This means you don't need to hardcode any midi opcodes
>> >>>> directly into your instruments.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Rory.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 15 May 2010 17:17, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
>> >>>> > Or any of the 'r' family of opcodes: madsr, linenr, expsegr, etc.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Cheers,
>> >>>> > Andrés
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>> >>>> >  wrote:
>> >>>> >> You can use the 'release' opcode.
>> >>>> >> On 15 May 2010, at 16:41, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>> I want to create a MIDI instrument that allows me to control the
>> >>>> >>> attack and release of notes when played by MIDI.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> This is my sample instrument...
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> instr 1
>> >>>> >>>    iCPS cpsmidi
>> >>>> >>>    iAmp veloc 0.01, 1
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>    a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>    ; Apply the amp envelope and velocity.
>> >>>> >>>    a1 = a1 * iAmp
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>    outs a1, a1
>> >>>> >>> endin
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Controlling the envelope attack time is easy. The problem
>> >>>> >>> is how can I tell when the note off occurs so I can
>> >>>> >>> determine the release time?
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>> >>> Anthony
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> >> "unsubscribe
>> >>>> >> csound"
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > --
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Andrés
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> > "unsubscribe
>> >>>> > csound"
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>> >>>> "unsubscribe
>> >>>> csound"
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Saludos,
>> > Felipe Sateler
>> >
>> >
>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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Date2010-05-16 22:46
FromSteven Yi
Subject[Csnd] Re: MIDI controlled envelope...
I had written an example of how to do voice allocation with
first-in/first-out behavior on this list before. I'm cureently away
from computer en route home, but it should be in the mailing list
archive.

On 5/16/10, Anthony Palomba  wrote:
> Wow, I would think that by now csound would be able to manage
> mixing of polyphony better.
>
> Is there a way I can get the number of voices that are currently playing?
>
>
>
> -ap
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
> wrote:
>
>> Well, it is proportional, but not twice as high for two notes as for
>> one (and so on).
>> Neither will the Csound instrument do this, unless the added notes
>> have exactly the same frequency and phase.
>> best
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2010/5/16 Felipe Sateler :
>> > But the piano does not have an amplitude proportional to the number of
>> > notes played. Or does it?
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 14:45, Oeyvind Brandtsegg 
>> wrote:
>> >> The most common thing to do is to just scale everything down.
>> >> e.g.
>> >> a1 = a1 *0.3
>> >>
>> >> The sum output will be significantly higher when you play more notes,
>> >> but this is quite natural. If you think of how e.g. an acoustic piano
>> >> works, it will also create a louder sound when you play more notes
>> >> simultaneously.
>> >>
>> >> best
>> >> Oeyvind
>> >>
>> >> 2010/5/16 Anthony Palomba :
>> >>> Hey guys, thanks for the replies. madsr is what I went with.
>> >>> This is what I have so far...
>> >>>
>> >>> ; simple sine wave instrument
>> >>> instr 1
>> >>>
>> >>>     ; MIDI input
>> >>>     iCPS cpsmidi
>> >>>     iVel veloc 0.01, 1
>> >>>
>> >>>     ; ADSR values
>> >>>     iattack = 0.15
>> >>>     idecay = 0
>> >>>     isustain = 1
>> >>>     irelease = 0.5
>> >>>     aenv madsr iattack, idecay, isustain, irelease
>> >>>
>> >>>     a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>> >>>     a1 = a1 * aenv     ; Apply the amp envelope
>> >>>     a1 = a1 * iVel     ; scale for velocity
>> >>>     outs a1, a1
>> >>> endin
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> The problem I have now is that when I play multiple notes,
>> >>> I tend to get a lot of samples out of range. Is there a way to tell
>> >>> csound to scale the output of each voice so that I do not get
>> >>> distortion.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -ap
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You may also want to look at using the MIDI/Score Interoperability
>> >>>> opcodes which eliminates the use of midicps and opcodes like that.
>> >>>> Using these opcodes allows you to pass midi data to instruments using
>> >>>> p-fields. This means you don't need to hardcode any midi opcodes
>> >>>> directly into your instruments.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Rory.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 15 May 2010 17:17, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
>> >>>> > Or any of the 'r' family of opcodes: madsr, linenr, expsegr, etc.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Cheers,
>> >>>> > Andrés
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>> >>>> >  wrote:
>> >>>> >> You can use the 'release' opcode.
>> >>>> >> On 15 May 2010, at 16:41, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>> I want to create a MIDI instrument that allows me to control the
>> >>>> >>> attack and release of notes when played by MIDI.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> This is my sample instrument...
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> instr 1
>> >>>> >>>    iCPS cpsmidi
>> >>>> >>>    iAmp veloc 0.01, 1
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>    a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>    ; Apply the amp envelope and velocity.
>> >>>> >>>    a1 = a1 * iAmp
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>    outs a1, a1
>> >>>> >>> endin
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Controlling the envelope attack time is easy. The problem
>> >>>> >>> is how can I tell when the note off occurs so I can
>> >>>> >>> determine the release time?
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>> >>> Anthony
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>>> >>
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>> >> "unsubscribe
>> >>>> >> csound"
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > --
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Andrés
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>>> >
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> "unsubscribe
>> >>>> > csound"
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>> "unsubscribe
>> >>>> csound"
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Saludos,
>> > Felipe Sateler
>> >
>> >
>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>> csound"
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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>>
>
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Date2010-05-19 03:12
FromSteven Yi
Subject[Csnd] Re: MIDI controlled envelope...
Hi Anthony,

Here's a link to an email I wrote that has a voice allocation
mechanism example CSD:

http://old.nabble.com/Re:-Realtime-midi-audio-and-polyphony-p4239007.html

May not be the most efficient, but it works and may be something to
start from in implementing your own voice allocation system.

steven


On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> I had written an example of how to do voice allocation with
> first-in/first-out behavior on this list before. I'm cureently away
> from computer en route home, but it should be in the mailing list
> archive.
>
> On 5/16/10, Anthony Palomba  wrote:
>> Wow, I would think that by now csound would be able to manage
>> mixing of polyphony better.
>>
>> Is there a way I can get the number of voices that are currently playing?
>>
>>
>>
>> -ap
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it is proportional, but not twice as high for two notes as for
>>> one (and so on).
>>> Neither will the Csound instrument do this, unless the added notes
>>> have exactly the same frequency and phase.
>>> best
>>> Oeyvind
>>>
>>> 2010/5/16 Felipe Sateler :
>>> > But the piano does not have an amplitude proportional to the number of
>>> > notes played. Or does it?
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 14:45, Oeyvind Brandtsegg 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> The most common thing to do is to just scale everything down.
>>> >> e.g.
>>> >> a1 = a1 *0.3
>>> >>
>>> >> The sum output will be significantly higher when you play more notes,
>>> >> but this is quite natural. If you think of how e.g. an acoustic piano
>>> >> works, it will also create a louder sound when you play more notes
>>> >> simultaneously.
>>> >>
>>> >> best
>>> >> Oeyvind
>>> >>
>>> >> 2010/5/16 Anthony Palomba :
>>> >>> Hey guys, thanks for the replies. madsr is what I went with.
>>> >>> This is what I have so far...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ; simple sine wave instrument
>>> >>> instr 1
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     ; MIDI input
>>> >>>     iCPS cpsmidi
>>> >>>     iVel veloc 0.01, 1
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     ; ADSR values
>>> >>>     iattack = 0.15
>>> >>>     idecay = 0
>>> >>>     isustain = 1
>>> >>>     irelease = 0.5
>>> >>>     aenv madsr iattack, idecay, isustain, irelease
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>> >>>     a1 = a1 * aenv     ; Apply the amp envelope
>>> >>>     a1 = a1 * iVel     ; scale for velocity
>>> >>>     outs a1, a1
>>> >>> endin
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The problem I have now is that when I play multiple notes,
>>> >>> I tend to get a lot of samples out of range. Is there a way to tell
>>> >>> csound to scale the output of each voice so that I do not get
>>> >>> distortion.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -ap
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> You may also want to look at using the MIDI/Score Interoperability
>>> >>>> opcodes which eliminates the use of midicps and opcodes like that.
>>> >>>> Using these opcodes allows you to pass midi data to instruments using
>>> >>>> p-fields. This means you don't need to hardcode any midi opcodes
>>> >>>> directly into your instruments.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Rory.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 15 May 2010 17:17, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
>>> >>>> > Or any of the 'r' family of opcodes: madsr, linenr, expsegr, etc.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Cheers,
>>> >>>> > Andrés
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>> >>>> >  wrote:
>>> >>>> >> You can use the 'release' opcode.
>>> >>>> >> On 15 May 2010, at 16:41, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >>> I want to create a MIDI instrument that allows me to control the
>>> >>>> >>> attack and release of notes when played by MIDI.
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>> This is my sample instrument...
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>> instr 1
>>> >>>> >>>    iCPS cpsmidi
>>> >>>> >>>    iAmp veloc 0.01, 1
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>    a1     oscili 1, iCPS, 1
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>    ; Apply the amp envelope and velocity.
>>> >>>> >>>    a1 = a1 * iAmp
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>    outs a1, a1
>>> >>>> >>> endin
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>> Controlling the envelope attack time is easy. The problem
>>> >>>> >>> is how can I tell when the note off occurs so I can
>>> >>>> >>> determine the release time?
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>>> >>> Anthony
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>> >>>> >>
>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> >>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >>>> >> "unsubscribe
>>> >>>> >> csound"
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > --
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Andrés
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>> >>>> >
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>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
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>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > Saludos,
>>> > Felipe Sateler
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
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>>>
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