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Date2012-10-08 20:19
FromEnrico Francioni
Subject[Csnd] 24_bit
hi,

I would like to create an audio file to 24 bit (and 44100 Hz), with
MacCsound;
which setting should I give?

many thanks…
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Date2012-10-08 20:58
Fromjoachim heintz
SubjectRe: [Csnd] 24_bit
hi enrico -
this is the option -3. see
http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/CommandFlagsCategory.html
best -
	joachim

Am 08.10.2012 21:19, schrieb Enrico Francioni:
>
> hi,
>
> I would like to create an audio file to 24 bit (and 44100 Hz), with
> MacCsound;
> which setting should I give?
>
> many thanks…
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Date2012-10-09 14:25
FromEnrico Francioni
Subject[Csnd] Re: 24_bit

this flag also works for other formats (8, 16, 24, 32, etc)?

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Date2012-10-09 14:45
Fromjoachim heintz
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: 24_bit
this was the reason i pointed to this site:
http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/CommandFlagsCategory.html

everything is written there, at the first item "Audio File Ouput". 
please have a look and ask if you have any question.

	j



Am 09.10.2012 15:25, schrieb Enrico Francioni:
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Date2012-10-09 16:26
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: 24_bit
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. Providing no flag = 16 bit output, -3 = 24bit, and -f = float.

Best,
Peiman

On 9 October 2012 14:25, Enrico Francioni <francioni61021@libero.it> wrote:


this flag also works for other formats (8, 16, 24, 32, etc)?

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Date2012-10-09 19:01
FromAdam Puckett
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: 24_bit
-8 = 8bit, -2 (or no flag) = 16bit, -3 = 24bit, -f = 32bit floats (not
to be confused with -F, for MIDI).

On 10/9/12, peiman khosravi  wrote:
> Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. Providing no flag = 16 bit output,
> -3 = 24bit, and -f = float.
>
> Best,
> Peiman
>
> On 9 October 2012 14:25, Enrico Francioni  wrote:
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Date2012-10-09 21:42
FromEnrico Francioni
Subject[Csnd] Re: 24_bit
…with -2 not work

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Date2012-10-10 06:06
Fromjpff@cs.bath.ac.uk
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: 24_bit
who said it would?  never been an option


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Date2012-10-10 09:21
Frommenno
Subject[Csnd] Re: 24_bit
Does csound always work internally with 16 bits? Or does it change when
choosing the flag = 16 bit output, -3 = 24bit, and -f = 32 bitfloat to these
settings when it is rendering?
I know most DAWs work with 32 bit resolution.

curious as ever,
Menno



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Date2012-10-10 09:34
FromEnrico Francioni
Subject[Csnd] Re: 24_bit
Adam write:

-8 = 8bit, *-2 (or no flag) = 16bit,* -3 = 24bit, -f = 32bit floats (not 
to be confused with -F, for MIDI). 


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Date2012-10-10 09:52
FromPINOT Francois
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: 24_bit
Csound works internally with samples of type MYFLT. A MYFLT sample is a 
64 bit floating point value (double) or a 32 bit floating point value 
depending on the way Csound was built (i.e. with usedouble=1 or 
usedouble=0).

The output flags are used to fix the sample format in the output file.

Regards

Francois

Le 10/10/2012 10:21, menno a écrit :
> Does csound always work internally with 16 bits? Or does it change when
> choosing the flag = 16 bit output, -3 = 24bit, and -f = 32 bitfloat to these
> settings when it is rendering?
> I know most DAWs work with 32 bit resolution.
>
> curious as ever,
> Menno
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Date2012-10-10 10:02
Frommenno
Subject[Csnd] Re: 24_bit
yes.
Analog signals have -, + and 0 voltage, corresponding to the movement of a
speaker: when using double precision, is the 0 state (the speaker in rest)
the 2^63 number?
Or is it the soundcard that creates the reference signal of zero volt?





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Date2012-10-10 10:10
FromPINOT Francois
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: 24_bit
On a non-biased signal (i.e. without DC component), the 0 state 
corresponds to the 0 digital value as it is the exact mean between 
negative and positive values, whatever number format is used.

Le 10/10/2012 11:02, menno a écrit :
> yes.
> Analog signals have -, + and 0 voltage, corresponding to the movement of a
> speaker: when using double precision, is the 0 state (the speaker in rest)
> the 2^63 number?
> Or is it the soundcard that creates the reference signal of zero volt?
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Date2012-10-10 10:17
Frommenno
Subject[Csnd] Re: 24_bit
thanks Francois
i have to chew on this one...



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Date2012-10-12 17:54
Frommenno
Subject[Csnd] Re: 24_bit
okay, Francois, i have eaten it. Thanks, tasts great!

How does a digital binary know it is positive or negative?




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Date2012-10-12 18:21
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: 24_bit
Signed integers are represented as binary "twos complement:" If N is a
positive integer, then -N is the integer such that N + (-N) = 0.

If that's so, you can tell if a number is positive or negative by
looking at the most significant bit, which is 0 for positive and 1 for
negative. Positive numbers are obvious, bitwise. To negate a positive
number, you first reverse the bits, then add 1, discarding any carry
past the most significant bit.

Regards,
Mike

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:54 PM, menno  wrote:
> okay, Francois, i have eaten it. Thanks, tasts great!
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