It's probaly tied with Mark of the Unicorn's (MOTU) 
Composer/Performer package. I was using rel-2.3.1 back 
in 1987, to do film scores using MIDI sequencing. 
My music partner and I are using MOTU's Digital
Performer-4 (4.52 and 4.6). It's Mac stuff.

Haven't seen Passport and Hybrid Arts in years,
but I think Cakewalk is still around in some form.
Not sure how old Cubase is.


-Partev



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From:  	victor 
Reply-To:  	csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
To:  	csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
Subject:  	[Csnd] longevity of software
Date:  	Tue 05/12/09 02:27 PM

	 
Just a thought: is it possible that Csound is becoming the
longest-living computer music language? Released in 1986 is
now 23 years in service (and long may it live).
MUSIC V possibly was possibly the longest used software
from 1969 (?) to the late eighties, but I think by 1992 it
was probably gone already. Does anyone know?
 
Victor

_____________________________________________________________
Netscape.  Just the Net You Need.

I think Cakewalk was superseded by SONAR.  Wikipedia says 1987 anyway,
and '89 for Cubase.
Wikipedia only says "mid-to-late 1980s" for Logic Pro, and this is
still available.

What about Windows Sound Recorder? ;)
Ah, I see now the original question was about languages.  In that
case, I can't imagine Csound not holding that title.

-Chuckk


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Partev Barr Sarkissian
 wrote:
> It's probaly tied with Mark of the Unicorn's (MOTU)
> Composer/Performer package. I was using rel-2.3.1 back
> in 1987, to do film scores using MIDI sequencing.
> My music partner and I are using MOTU's Digital
> Performer-4 (4.52 and 4.6). It's Mac stuff.
>
> Haven't seen Passport and Hybrid Arts in years,
> but I think Cakewalk is still around in some form.
> Not sure how old Cubase is.
>
>
> -Partev
>
>
>
> ================================================================
>
>
>
> From:   victor 
> Reply-To:       csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> To:     csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Subject:        [Csnd] longevity of software
> Date:   Tue 05/12/09 02:27 PM
>
>
> Just a thought: is it possible that Csound is becoming the
> longest-living computer music language? Released in 1986 is
> now 23 years in service (and long may it live).
> MUSIC V possibly was possibly the longest used software
> from 1969 (?) to the late eighties, but I think by 1992 it
> was probably gone already. Does anyone know?
>
> Victor
>
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Regarding Longevity...

You also might want to consider the fact that  Barry Vercoe's Csound  
was preceded in 1977-1986 with Music11 (100% compatible in opcodes and  
functions - written for his DEC PDP11 computer)  I composed Trapped in  
Convert in the summer of 1979 (completed and premiered 40 years ago  
this August) using Music11 - and it is that same orchestra and score  
that run today in Csound.

Also of interest, while I was visiting and staying with Max Mathews  
last month, he gave me a *new* working copy of Music5
for my MacBook Pro!  (And I have been using it to run some of the  
examples from his 1969 MIT Press TextBook - The Technology of Computer  
Music).  Seems that  Bill Schottstaedt used/uses an i386 Fortran  
emulator to compile and run the original code.  This is all being done  
to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Book and Language at Bourges  
next month.  Max tells me that Jean-Claude Risset is composing a new  
piece (in Music5) for the occasion.

In addition to a special MIDI to Music5 note-list generator that was  
written for him by his associate Daniel Arfib, I was told by
Jean-Claude Risset that he uses Csound too.

Dr. B.


Dr. Richard Boulanger  -  rboulanger@berklee.edu



On May 13, 2009, at 5:18 AM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:

> I think Cakewalk was superseded by SONAR.  Wikipedia says 1987 anyway,
> and '89 for Cubase.
> Wikipedia only says "mid-to-late 1980s" for Logic Pro, and this is
> still available.
>
> What about Windows Sound Recorder? ;)
> Ah, I see now the original question was about languages.  In that
> case, I can't imagine Csound not holding that title.
>
> -Chuckk
>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Partev Barr Sarkissian
>  wrote:
>> It's probaly tied with Mark of the Unicorn's (MOTU)
>> Composer/Performer package. I was using rel-2.3.1 back
>> in 1987, to do film scores using MIDI sequencing.
>> My music partner and I are using MOTU's Digital
>> Performer-4 (4.52 and 4.6). It's Mac stuff.
>>
>> Haven't seen Passport and Hybrid Arts in years,
>> but I think Cakewalk is still around in some form.
>> Not sure how old Cubase is.
>>
>>
>> -Partev
>>
>>
>>
>> ================================================================
>>
>>
>>
>> From:   victor 
>> Reply-To:       csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> To:     csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Subject:        [Csnd] longevity of software
>> Date:   Tue 05/12/09 02:27 PM
>>
>>
>> Just a thought: is it possible that Csound is becoming the
>> longest-living computer music language? Released in 1986 is
>> now 23 years in service (and long may it live).
>> MUSIC V possibly was possibly the longest used software
>> from 1969 (?) to the late eighties, but I think by 1992 it
>> was probably gone already. Does anyone know?
>>
>> Victor
>>
>> _____________________________________________________________
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>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>> "unsubscribe csound"
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>
>
>
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Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote on 5/13/09 6:45 AM:

> Regarding Longevity...
> 
> You also might want to consider the fact that  Barry Vercoe's Csound
> was preceded in 1977-1986 with Music11 (100% compatible in opcodes and
> functions - written for his DEC PDP11 computer)  I composed Trapped in
> Convert in the summer of 1979 (completed and premiered 40 years ago
> this August) using Music11 - and it is that same orchestra and score
> that run today in Csound.

Wow!  Congratulations.  I think the Csound community should celebrate this
in some way. ^_^

> Also of interest, while I was visiting and staying with Max Mathews
> last month, he gave me a *new* working copy of Music5
> for my MacBook Pro!  (And I have been using it to run some of the
> examples from his 1969 MIT Press TextBook - The Technology of Computer
> Music).  Seems that  Bill Schottstaedt used/uses an i386 Fortran
> emulator to compile and run the original code.  This is all being done
> to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Book and Language at Bourges
> next month.  Max tells me that Jean-Claude Risset is composing a new
> piece (in Music5) for the occasion.

Wow!  That's neat.  I would like to hear that piece (and see the code).

Anthony Kozar
mailing-lists-1001 AT anthonykozar DOT net
http://anthonykozar.net/

I will share the code with all - and with Max Mathews blessings too.

It's pretty neat, but missing many of our recent favorite, rezzy, PVS,  
scanned,  and granular opcodes ;-}

Amazing though - for sure - and to see the fortran code is pretty  
cool.  pass1, pass2, pass3 - three individual programs!

-dB

Dr. Richard Boulanger  -  rboulanger@berklee.edu



On May 13, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Anthony Kozar wrote:

> Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote on 5/13/09 6:45 AM:
>
>> Regarding Longevity...
>>
>> You also might want to consider the fact that  Barry Vercoe's Csound
>> was preceded in 1977-1986 with Music11 (100% compatible in opcodes  
>> and
>> functions - written for his DEC PDP11 computer)  I composed Trapped  
>> in
>> Convert in the summer of 1979 (completed and premiered 40 years ago
>> this August) using Music11 - and it is that same orchestra and score
>> that run today in Csound.
>
> Wow!  Congratulations.  I think the Csound community should  
> celebrate this
> in some way. ^_^
>
>> Also of interest, while I was visiting and staying with Max Mathews
>> last month, he gave me a *new* working copy of Music5
>> for my MacBook Pro!  (And I have been using it to run some of the
>> examples from his 1969 MIT Press TextBook - The Technology of  
>> Computer
>> Music).  Seems that  Bill Schottstaedt used/uses an i386 Fortran
>> emulator to compile and run the original code.  This is all being  
>> done
>> to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Book and Language at Bourges
>> next month.  Max tells me that Jean-Claude Risset is composing a new
>> piece (in Music5) for the occasion.
>
> Wow!  That's neat.  I would like to hear that piece (and see the  
> code).
>
> Anthony Kozar
> mailing-lists-1001 AT anthonykozar DOT net
> http://anthonykozar.net/
>
>
>
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