[Csnd] how to turn off flanger, moogladder echos

[Csnd] how to turn off flanger, moogladder echos

Date	2020-09-20 23:49
From	Forrest Curo
Subject	[Csnd] how to turn off flanger, moogladder echos
	This produces some interesting sounds, but sometimes I would really like them to quiet down awhile: --- asig poscil 1, p4, gicosy af = sqrt((1 + asig)/8) a1 flanger aLeft, af * 0.05, kfb a2 flanger a1/2 + aRight, af * 0.02, kfb ares moogladder a1, kfr, kfb ares2 moogladder a2, 3 * kfr/2 , kfb outs ares2 + aLeft , ares + aRight ---- How to find values of kfr & kfb for damping out the wranging noises? Forrest Curo Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2020-09-21 07:27
From	"Jeanette C."
Subject	Re: [Csnd] how to turn off flanger, moogladder echos
	Sep 21 2020, Forrest Curo has written: > This produces some interesting sounds, > but sometimes I would really like them to quiet down awhile: ... Would it be really silly to suggest a minimal volume fade out? Best wishes, Jeanette -- * Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g * Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c * GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c Do you even know what I like Just what I'm living for, What I adore <3 (Britney Spears) Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2020-09-21 14:33
From	Forrest Curo
Subject	Re: [Csnd] how to turn off flanger, moogladder echos
	That's not at all silly -- but I'm trying to control things with two foot pedals and a midi keyboard. The sound is running and changing on its own in an always-on instrument, long after the signal from the original note has turned off. I like that feature, but not forever... On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:26 PM Jeanette C. <julien@mail.upb.de> wrote: Sep 21 2020, Forrest Curo has written: > This produces some interesting sounds, > but sometimes I would really like them to quiet down awhile: ... Would it be really silly to suggest a minimal volume fade out? Best wishes, Jeanette -- * Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g * Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c * GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c Do you even know what I like Just what I'm living for, What I adore <3 (Britney Spears) Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2020-09-21 15:10
From	"Jeanette C."
Subject	Re: [Csnd] how to turn off flanger, moogladder echos
	Sep 21 2020, Forrest Curo has written: > That's not at all silly -- but I'm trying to control things with two foot > pedals and a midi keyboard. So what is the main problem? That you get abrupt changes of the filter frequency, while the note is still holding or that you get weird effects when the note is somehow muted for a moment? If it's harsh changes, have you tried port/portk. If it is weird effects on muting, you could try some kind of port or control signal lowpass filtering on the overall volume. Best wishes, Jeanette > > The sound is running and changing on its own in an always-on instrument, > long after the signal from the original note has turned off. I like that > feature, but not forever... > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:26 PM Jeanette C. wrote: > >> Sep 21 2020, Forrest Curo has written: >> >>> This produces some interesting sounds, >>> but sometimes I would really like them to quiet down awhile: >> ... >> Would it be really silly to suggest a minimal volume fade out? >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jeanette >> >> -- >> * Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound >> * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g >> * Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c >> * GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c >> >> Do you even know what I like >> Just what I'm living for, >> What I adore <3 >> (Britney Spears) >> >> Csound mailing list >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >> Send bugs reports to >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> > > Csound mailing list > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > -- * Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g * Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c * GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c Baby, take the time to realize I'm not the kind to sacrifice <3 (Britney Spears) Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2020-09-21 15:36
From	Forrest Curo
Subject	Re: [Csnd] how to turn off flanger, moogladder echos
	The intended effect -- and the problem, when it goes on too long -- is continuing weird sounds when the incoming audio (aLeft and aRight) goes to zero. I was hoping that zeroing the feedback in the flangers would cause a shutoff, but feeding some of the first flanger's output into the second may have kept that from mattering... or something in the moogladders (which are doing some lowpass filtering; maybe I haven't set the frequency kfr low enough... ? On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:10 AM Jeanette C. <julien@mail.upb.de> wrote: Sep 21 2020, Forrest Curo has written: > That's not at all silly -- but I'm trying to control things with two foot > pedals and a midi keyboard. So what is the main problem? That you get abrupt changes of the filter frequency, while the note is still holding or that you get weird effects when the note is somehow muted for a moment? If it's harsh changes, have you tried port/portk. If it is weird effects on muting, you could try some kind of port or control signal lowpass filtering on the overall volume. Best wishes, Jeanette > > The sound is running and changing on its own in an always-on instrument, > long after the signal from the original note has turned off. I like that > feature, but not forever... > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:26 PM Jeanette C. <julien@mail.upb.de> wrote: > >> Sep 21 2020, Forrest Curo has written: >> >>> This produces some interesting sounds, >>> but sometimes I would really like them to quiet down awhile: >> ... >> Would it be really silly to suggest a minimal volume fade out? >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jeanette >> >> -- >> * Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound >> * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g >> * Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c >> * GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c >> >> Do you even know what I like >> Just what I'm living for, >> What I adore <3 >> (Britney Spears) >> >> Csound mailing list >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >> Send bugs reports to >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> > > Csound mailing list > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > -- * Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g * Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c * GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c Baby, take the time to realize I'm not the kind to sacrifice <3 (Britney Spears) Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2020-09-26 17:01
From	Forrest Curo
Subject	Re: [Csnd] how to turn off flanger, moogladder echos
	Thanks for efforts to help -- but my mistake; the problem was probably not in the twisted code I posted. aLeft and aRight were coming in from a channel which I wasn't clearing. Csound: A Sound and Music Computing System sayeth: "The bus signal can feed other instruments as required. Once all destinations have read the bus, we need to clear it. This is very important, because as the signals are summed into it, the bus will accumulate and grow each k-cycle, if left uncleared." Oops. On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:36 AM Forrest Curo <treegestalt@gmail.com> wrote: The intended effect -- and the problem, when it goes on too long -- is continuing weird sounds when the incoming audio (aLeft and aRight) goes to zero. I was hoping that zeroing the feedback in the flangers would cause a shutoff, but feeding some of the first flanger's output into the second may have kept that from mattering... or something in the moogladders (which are doing some lowpass filtering; maybe I haven't set the frequency kfr low enough... ? On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:10 AM Jeanette C. <julien@mail.upb.de> wrote: Sep 21 2020, Forrest Curo has written: > That's not at all silly -- but I'm trying to control things with two foot > pedals and a midi keyboard. So what is the main problem? That you get abrupt changes of the filter frequency, while the note is still holding or that you get weird effects when the note is somehow muted for a moment? If it's harsh changes, have you tried port/portk. If it is weird effects on muting, you could try some kind of port or control signal lowpass filtering on the overall volume. Best wishes, Jeanette > > The sound is running and changing on its own in an always-on instrument, > long after the signal from the original note has turned off. I like that > feature, but not forever... > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:26 PM Jeanette C. <julien@mail.upb.de> wrote: > >> Sep 21 2020, Forrest Curo has written: >> >>> This produces some interesting sounds, >>> but sometimes I would really like them to quiet down awhile: >> ... >> Would it be really silly to suggest a minimal volume fade out? >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jeanette >> >> -- >> * Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound >> * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g >> * Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c >> * GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c >> >> Do you even know what I like >> Just what I'm living for, >> What I adore <3 >> (Britney Spears) >> >> Csound mailing list >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >> Send bugs reports to >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> > > Csound mailing list > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > -- * Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g * Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c * GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c Baby, take the time to realize I'm not the kind to sacrifice <3 (Britney Spears) Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2020-09-26 17:54
From	Rory Walsh
Subject	Re: [Csnd] how to turn off flanger, moogladder echos
	Yes, I often forget this step myself https://forum.cabbageaudio.com/t/noob-question-about-instruments-toggling-effects/2135/5 On Sat 26 Sep 2020, 5:01 p.m. Forrest Curo, <treegestalt@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks for efforts to help -- but my mistake; the problem was probably not in the twisted code I posted. aLeft and aRight were coming in from a channel which I wasn't clearing. Csound: A Sound and Music Computing System sayeth: "The bus signal can feed other instruments as required. Once all destinations have read the bus, we need to clear it. This is very important, because as the signals are summed into it, the bus will accumulate and grow each k-cycle, if left uncleared." Oops. On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:36 AM Forrest Curo <treegestalt@gmail.com> wrote: The intended effect -- and the problem, when it goes on too long -- is continuing weird sounds when the incoming audio (aLeft and aRight) goes to zero. I was hoping that zeroing the feedback in the flangers would cause a shutoff, but feeding some of the first flanger's output into the second may have kept that from mattering... or something in the moogladders (which are doing some lowpass filtering; maybe I haven't set the frequency kfr low enough... ? On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:10 AM Jeanette C. <julien@mail.upb.de> wrote: Sep 21 2020, Forrest Curo has written: > That's not at all silly -- but I'm trying to control things with two foot > pedals and a midi keyboard. So what is the main problem? That you get abrupt changes of the filter frequency, while the note is still holding or that you get weird effects when the note is somehow muted for a moment? If it's harsh changes, have you tried port/portk. If it is weird effects on muting, you could try some kind of port or control signal lowpass filtering on the overall volume. Best wishes, Jeanette > > The sound is running and changing on its own in an always-on instrument, > long after the signal from the original note has turned off. I like that > feature, but not forever... > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:26 PM Jeanette C. <julien@mail.upb.de> wrote: > >> Sep 21 2020, Forrest Curo has written: >> >>> This produces some interesting sounds, >>> but sometimes I would really like them to quiet down awhile: >> ... >> Would it be really silly to suggest a minimal volume fade out? >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jeanette >> >> -- >> * Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound >> * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g >> * Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c >> * GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c >> >> Do you even know what I like >> Just what I'm living for, >> What I adore <3 >> (Britney Spears) >> >> Csound mailing list >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >> Send bugs reports to >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> > > Csound mailing list > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > -- * Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g * Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c * GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c Baby, take the time to realize I'm not the kind to sacrifice <3 (Britney Spears) Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2020-09-29 21:23
From	Forrest Curo
Subject	Re: [Csnd] how to turn off flanger, moogladder echos
	Putting the outlettas too early in a previous instrument. They needed to go after these lines (& now the sounds end when they should): ... if lastcycle() == 1 then aenv = 0 ; zeros out "OutL" & "OutR" at the end of notes rerun: itom = i(ktom) reinit rerun ; (Logs this note when we know the length) S_event sprintf "i %d %.2f %.2f %d %d\n", 21, itim, itom, p4, p5 if (itom ==0) goto noprint fprints "score.sco", S_event noprint: endif outleta "OutL", a1 * aenv outleta "OutR", a2 * aenv endin On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 9:55 AM Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote: Yes, I often forget this step myself https://forum.cabbageaudio.com/t/noob-question-about-instruments-toggling-effects/2135/5 On Sat 26 Sep 2020, 5:01 p.m. Forrest Curo, <treegestalt@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks for efforts to help -- but my mistake; the problem was probably not in the twisted code I posted. aLeft and aRight were coming in from a channel which I wasn't clearing. Csound: A Sound and Music Computing System sayeth: "The bus signal can feed other instruments as required. Once all destinations have read the bus, we need to clear it. This is very important, because as the signals are summed into it, the bus will accumulate and grow each k-cycle, if left uncleared." Oops. On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:36 AM Forrest Curo <treegestalt@gmail.com> wrote: The intended effect -- and the problem, when it goes on too long -- is continuing weird sounds when the incoming audio (aLeft and aRight) goes to zero. I was hoping that zeroing the feedback in the flangers would cause a shutoff, but feeding some of the first flanger's output into the second may have kept that from mattering... or something in the moogladders (which are doing some lowpass filtering; maybe I haven't set the frequency kfr low enough... ? On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:10 AM Jeanette C. <julien@mail.upb.de> wrote: Sep 21 2020, Forrest Curo has written: > That's not at all silly -- but I'm trying to control things with two foot > pedals and a midi keyboard. So what is the main problem? That you get abrupt changes of the filter frequency, while the note is still holding or that you get weird effects when the note is somehow muted for a moment? If it's harsh changes, have you tried port/portk. If it is weird effects on muting, you could try some kind of port or control signal lowpass filtering on the overall volume. Best wishes, Jeanette > > The sound is running and changing on its own in an always-on instrument, > long after the signal from the original note has turned off. I like that > feature, but not forever... > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:26 PM Jeanette C. <julien@mail.upb.de> wrote: > >> Sep 21 2020, Forrest Curo has written: >> >>> This produces some interesting sounds, >>> but sometimes I would really like them to quiet down awhile: >> ... >> Would it be really silly to suggest a minimal volume fade out? >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jeanette >> >> -- >> * Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound >> * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g >> * Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c >> * GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c >> >> Do you even know what I like >> Just what I'm living for, >> What I adore <3 >> (Britney Spears) >> >> Csound mailing list >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >> Send bugs reports to >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> > > Csound mailing list > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > -- * Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g * Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c * GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c Baby, take the time to realize I'm not the kind to sacrifice <3 (Britney Spears) Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here