hi,

my amplifiers, speakers and soundcard, nor my recording and 
post-processing skills are of studio level, but. I've recorded many 
years ago from a vinyl LP J.S. Bach's Brandenburg Concerto no. 5 
performed by Trevor Pinnock and The English Concert (1970 recording) and 
then split the continuous recording to tracks and saved as MP3 (320 
kb/s) and FLAC. Normally playing with iTunes on Win7 and shared from Mac 
iTunes, the Win7 iTunes can't play FLAC. I installed the codecs to WMP, 
and found the FLAC-version. Listening to MP3, the violins sound like 
having THD near 90%, but on the FLAC-version they are clean and 
enjoyable, listening to MP3, it's unbearable. I've noticed this also on 
some of the records I've bought directly as MP3s. There are recordings 
more and more  coming as FLAC, and now if it's possible, I won't ever 
buy or record anything as MP3!

It's also possible to listen to OGG, earlier when using Linux only, I 
ripped CD's to OGG and have  quite a lot of music in OGG.

WMP is playing now from Mac's Music/iTunes-folder and also MP3s feel 
like more clean than on iTunes. I don't know how iTunes Home Sharing is 
done. WMP sees Mac as drive Z:, so there's no extra coding/decoding, 
which might be with iTunes. Bad thing is occasional dropouts.

best,

-m

Thanks for some interesting observations,
did you also compare the iTunes AAC coding to the other formats? I
suspect it would be similar to mp3 but it's be interesting to hear
your opinion.
best
Oeyvind

2013/11/29 Matti Koskinen :
> hi,
>
> my amplifiers, speakers and soundcard, nor my recording and post-processing
> skills are of studio level, but. I've recorded many years ago from a vinyl
> LP J.S. Bach's Brandenburg Concerto no. 5 performed by Trevor Pinnock and
> The English Concert (1970 recording) and then split the continuous recording
> to tracks and saved as MP3 (320 kb/s) and FLAC. Normally playing with iTunes
> on Win7 and shared from Mac iTunes, the Win7 iTunes can't play FLAC. I
> installed the codecs to WMP, and found the FLAC-version. Listening to MP3,
> the violins sound like having THD near 90%, but on the FLAC-version they are
> clean and enjoyable, listening to MP3, it's unbearable. I've noticed this
> also on some of the records I've bought directly as MP3s. There are
> recordings more and more  coming as FLAC, and now if it's possible, I won't
> ever buy or record anything as MP3!
>
> It's also possible to listen to OGG, earlier when using Linux only, I ripped
> CD's to OGG and have  quite a lot of music in OGG.
>
> WMP is playing now from Mac's Music/iTunes-folder and also MP3s feel like
> more clean than on iTunes. I don't know how iTunes Home Sharing is done. WMP
> sees Mac as drive Z:, so there's no extra coding/decoding, which might be
> with iTunes. Bad thing is occasional dropouts.
>
> best,
>
> -m
>
>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug trackers
> csound6:
>            https://sourceforge.net/p/csound/tickets/
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> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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> csound"
>
>



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Oeyvind Brandtsegg
Professor of Music Technology
NTNU
7491 Trondheim
Norway
Cell: +47 92 203 205

http://flyndresang.no/
http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
http://soundcloud.com/t-emp

On 29.11.2013 09:38, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:
> Thanks for some interesting observations,
> did you also compare the iTunes AAC coding to the other formats? I
> suspect it would be similar to mp3 but it's be interesting to hear
> your opinion.
> best
> Oeyvind
>
>
  Nope, everything on osx is either mp3, ogg, flac or m4a. BTW the ogg's 
are old computer music from Risset, Jaffe, Schottstead etc., everything 
I found on CD's from the library of Tampere in the 90's. It had quite a 
collection of computer music, also books like Dodge&Jerse and  Moore. I 
showed them the Csound-book, but as it has CD's and music, they said 
they can't acquire it to their collection for some copyright reasons.

best,

-m

Yes, As far as I understand it, m4a is the same audio coding as AAC,
just wrapped up in a different container. So the audio quality
potential should be the same. Now, the difference between the file
formats also probably depends on the quality of the encoder, come to
think of it, so a direct comparision is perhaps not so
straightforward.
best
Oeyvind

2013/11/29 Matti Koskinen :
>
> On 29.11.2013 09:38, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for some interesting observations,
>> did you also compare the iTunes AAC coding to the other formats? I
>> suspect it would be similar to mp3 but it's be interesting to hear
>> your opinion.
>> best
>> Oeyvind
>>
>>
>  Nope, everything on osx is either mp3, ogg, flac or m4a. BTW the ogg's are
> old computer music from Risset, Jaffe, Schottstead etc., everything I found
> on CD's from the library of Tampere in the 90's. It had quite a collection
> of computer music, also books like Dodge&Jerse and  Moore. I showed them the
> Csound-book, but as it has CD's and music, they said they can't acquire it
> to their collection for some copyright reasons.
>
>
> best,
>
> -m
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug trackers
> csound6:
>            https://sourceforge.net/p/csound/tickets/
> csound5:
>            https://sourceforge.net/p/csound/bugs/
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
> csound"
>
>



-- 

Oeyvind Brandtsegg
Professor of Music Technology
NTNU
7491 Trondheim
Norway
Cell: +47 92 203 205

http://flyndresang.no/
http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
http://soundcloud.com/t-emp