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Date2008-01-03 11:06
FromSuper Pija
Subject[Csnd] python-csound mailing list/forum needed
hello all,
               i think is necessary a forum or mailing list for the languages more used to program scores, that means python and java. And so it would be possible to discuss/ask about algorithmic composition with csound. I'm a very beginner in python and in algorithmic composition and can not take care of a forum/mailing list  like that. Hope someone will set it up.
                                                         Spija

----- Original Message ----
From: Cesare Marilungo 
To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:47:37 AM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Some infos/instructions for the new website.


No it wasn't.  :-) 

I've set the intended behavior now. Blog posts can be about anything 
(related to csounds). In particular, it would be interesting for users 
to document his/her experiences about working with csound. So, they're 
not necessarily news. Those with a 'contributor' profile can post news 
too. But we should decide what qualifies as a news. To me it would make
 
sense to use it almost exclusively for software announcements and mayor
 
events/facts. Please, let's discuss this all together.

Keep in mind that the /blog page has its own feeds that you can 
subscribe too. Or you can subscribe to individual blogs too. Neat,
 isn't it?

I have also added the block with the most recent blog posts to the 
sidebar. There's also one for the most active forum topics, which is
 now 
invisible since there isn't any.

Cheers,

-c.

Jacob Joaquin wrote:
> I just did a test blog at cSounds.com.  Not sure if this was the
 intended
> result, but my blog entry showed up on the front page.  I personally
 only
> expected it to show up at www.csounds.com/blog.  Front page aside,
 this new
> blogging functionality at cSounds may prove to modernize the Csound
> community.
>
> Best,
> Jake
>
> ----
> The Csound Blog
> http://www.thumbuki.com/csound/blog/
>
>
>
>
> Cesare Marilungo wrote:
>   
>> * Blogs: when you make an account on the website you can post on
 forums 
>> and post comments on news (and in a near future also below tutorial 
>> pages and whatnot) but you can also post on your own blog page. Each
 
>> blog has his own page and there's an index page
 www.csounds.com/blog.
>>
>>     
>
>   


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Date2008-01-03 11:11
From"Rory Walsh"
Subject[Csnd] Re: python-csound mailing list/forum needed
Personally I like to have these discussions on this list. I'm always
interested in what others are using Csound for and in looking over some of
the more python specific posts I have often got great ideas for my own
work. If the number of python/java specific posts become too much for the
mailing list to handle then perhaps another should be set up but for now I
think it's ok as is.

Rory.




> hello all,
>                i think is necessary a forum or mailing list for the
> languages more used to program scores, that means python
> and java. And so it would be possible to discuss/ask about
> algorithmic composition with csound. I'm a very beginner in
> python and in algorithmic composition and can not take care
> of a forum/mailing list  like that. Hope someone will set
> it up.
>                                                          Spija
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Cesare Marilungo 
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:47:37 AM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Some infos/instructions for the new website.
>
>
> No it wasn't.  :-)
>
> I've set the intended behavior now. Blog posts can be about anything
> (related to csounds). In particular, it would be interesting for users
> to document his/her experiences about working with csound. So, they're
> not necessarily news. Those with a 'contributor' profile can post news
> too. But we should decide what qualifies as a news. To me it would make
>
> sense to use it almost exclusively for software announcements and mayor
>
> events/facts. Please, let's discuss this all together.
>
> Keep in mind that the /blog page has its own feeds that you can
> subscribe too. Or you can subscribe to individual blogs too. Neat,
>  isn't it?
>
> I have also added the block with the most recent blog posts to the
> sidebar. There's also one for the most active forum topics, which is
>  now
> invisible since there isn't any.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -c.
>
> Jacob Joaquin wrote:
>> I just did a test blog at cSounds.com.  Not sure if this was the
>  intended
>> result, but my blog entry showed up on the front page.  I personally
>  only
>> expected it to show up at www.csounds.com/blog.  Front page aside,
>  this new
>> blogging functionality at cSounds may prove to modernize the Csound
>> community.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jake
>>
>> ----
>> The Csound Blog
>> http://www.thumbuki.com/csound/blog/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cesare Marilungo wrote:
>>
>>> * Blogs: when you make an account on the website you can post on
>  forums
>>> and post comments on news (and in a near future also below tutorial
>>> pages and whatnot) but you can also post on your own blog page. Each
>
>>> blog has his own page and there's an index page
>  www.csounds.com/blog.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> www.cesaremarilungo.com
>
>
>
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Date2008-01-03 11:57
From"Oeyvind Brandtsegg"
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: python-csound mailing list/forum needed
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Date2008-01-03 12:16
FromDavidWorrall
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: python-csound mailing list/forum needed
I agree. I think there is an advantage for beginners in reading stuff  
they don't yet understand: chaotic learning is superior to a mainline  
'feed'.
But what it does mean is that everyone on the list has to endure basic  
sometimes off-csound discussion, such as the recent one between Tim M  
and myself. And that's a case in point. I was prepared for someone to  
ask it to be conducted privately, but have persisted in the belief  
that others might benefit.

Happy New Ear everybody,

David

On 03/01/2008, at 10:57 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:

> It would be very nice if it was possible to "subscribe to a
> notification on new forum posts" via email. I agree with Rory, I also
> like to have these discussions on the email list, or at least I find
> it convenient to get all information in one place.
> One-stop-check-email-for-anything-interesting, and then resume other
> work activities.
>
> best
> Oeyvind
>
> 2008/1/3, Rory Walsh :
>> Personally I like to have these discussions on this list. I'm always
>> interested in what others are using Csound for and in looking over  
>> some of
>> the more python specific posts I have often got great ideas for my  
>> own
>> work. If the number of python/java specific posts become too much  
>> for the
>> mailing list to handle then perhaps another should be set up but  
>> for now I
>> think it's ok as is.
>>
>> Rory.
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Date2008-01-03 12:58
FromTim Mortimer
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: python-csound mailing list/forum needed
I'm one of the main offenders of late. & i've only been around a year, so I'm
possibly just an offender full stop.

I thought of suggesting a separate "Python queries list" also, but I also
concluded against it (happy to be convinced otherwise...) mainly because i
thought there's already so much info on this list (although as David Worral
pointed out recently, searches for csnd etc would also become easier on a
separate list...but then you'd end up searching 2 lists)

It's is unfortunate though in some ways. I hate feeling like i'm
contributing to the "impurification" of this list at times. 

Even though I've hardly used Csound over the last 6 months (compared to my
initial period of exploration), it is still central to the "realisation" of
what i want to achieve with Python: offering MIDI functionality, PVOC,
granular (still haven't even looked at partikkel yet. wan't to explore some
formant / vocal/ "pitch enforcement"  type stuff with it if that's
possible.....) Loris opcodes are the dream (& then it's Python that has
supporting analysis & modules...)... oh yeah, custom SDIF interpolation
stuff i was trying from txt file....(again only really feasable with Python
doing the "crunch work" first), & i simply wouldn't be using python at all
if it wasn't for the csound list & community discussing & suggesting it - so
thank god it's not a separate list basically. 

In some ways, when i came looking for csound, i think what i was really
searching for "creatively" WAS python. But compared to the alternatives,
csound & python are very much about being "hand in glove" in terms of how
one feeds into the other. (I have seen incidentally there is an Ableton Live
Python API however - has anyone explored it?)

So, as much as the organisational zealot in me wants to see a separate list,
i do, like those before me it seems, find these "polluted waters" are indeed
fertile ones. 

Things are unfortunately not always "neat" it seems.

I'd like to see an area devoted to using python & csound on the new
csounds.com - & wider algorithmic / Silence / AthenaCL type territory. 

But i think at the same time this has clarified for me what Csound itself is
really all about. A powerful & fertile centre of interconnectivity (& not
forgetting those text based scoring conventions!), but at it's core focussed
on the business of "making computers create sound" 



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Date2008-01-03 12:59
FromTim Mortimer
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: python-csound mailing list/forum needed
persist david, persist!


David Worrall wrote:
> 
> I agree. I think there is an advantage for beginners in reading stuff  
> they don't yet understand: chaotic learning is superior to a mainline  
> 'feed'.
> 
> 
> 

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