I just checked it here, 117.orc + 117.sco. I only get a few samples
out of range (76) in the first  'note'. The sound is OK despite this
(no noise or anything). This is Csound 5.08 (beta) from CVS, but
I expect the same for 5.07.

Victor

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gareth Edwards" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:16 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Csound book examples and samples out of range - bad 
build/install?


> Hi all,
>
> I'm a Csound newbie diligently working through the Csound book and other 
> tutorial resources available and I have a question about a specific 
> example.
>
> I ran example 117.orc/117.sco from Chapter 1, p28 through csound 5.07, 
> win32 build with double samples and found a) 109471 samples out of range 
> and b) the expected bad noise to go with it.
>
> With a bit of experimentation I found that multiplying the final output by 
> 0.07 removes the samples out of range (and that multiplying by 0.08 does 
> not).
>
> I assume (and this may be a bad assumption) that once upon a version, this 
> example ran without clipping so either I've got a bad install or something 
> has changed in the opcodes that implement this example since the example 
> was created - I'm really just trying to rule out the former. Although, if 
> it's the latter, almost 23dB of scaling seems like a pretty big shift in 
> operating point to me.
>
> (Since this is my first posting to this list, let me express my 
> appreciation to the community for what is obviously a fantastically 
> powerful piece of software and also my congratulations on the revamp of 
> the website - I'm considering starting a "newbie" blog with the new 
> capabilities to help push me along the path to enlightenment....)
>
> Cheers
> Gareth
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to this list.
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> csound" 

victor wrote:
> I just checked it here, 117.orc + 117.sco. I only get a few samples
> out of range (76) in the first  'note'. The sound is OK despite this
> (no noise or anything). This is Csound 5.08 (beta) from CVS, but
> I expect the same for 5.07.

Hi Victor,

Thanks for checking for me. I uninstalled Csound then reinstalled, first 
the float build, then uninstalled that and installed the double build - 
and both these builds agree with you and sound much more musical.

I think I pulled an early 5.07 installer off sourceforge but I don't 
remember anything as fundamental as this being fixed in the updated 
installer. No matter.

Apropos installers: there are 2 float installers for win32 on the SF 
download page for 5.07 - there is Csound5.07.2-win32-f.exe at 22799727 
bytes and Csound5.07-win32-f.exe at 22513848 bytes. I suspect one is out 
of date and should be removed from the package list?

Cheers
Gareth

> 
> Victor
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth Edwards" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:16 PM
> Subject: [Csnd] Csound book examples and samples out of range - bad 
> build/install?
> 
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm a Csound newbie diligently working through the Csound book and 
>> other tutorial resources available and I have a question about a 
>> specific example.
>>
>> I ran example 117.orc/117.sco from Chapter 1, p28 through csound 5.07, 
>> win32 build with double samples and found a) 109471 samples out of 
>> range and b) the expected bad noise to go with it.
>>
>> With a bit of experimentation I found that multiplying the final 
>> output by 0.07 removes the samples out of range (and that multiplying 
>> by 0.08 does not).
>>
>> I assume (and this may be a bad assumption) that once upon a version, 
>> this example ran without clipping so either I've got a bad install or 
>> something has changed in the opcodes that implement this example since 
>> the example was created - I'm really just trying to rule out the 
>> former. Although, if it's the latter, almost 23dB of scaling seems 
>> like a pretty big shift in operating point to me.
>>
>> (Since this is my first posting to this list, let me express my 
>> appreciation to the community for what is obviously a fantastically 
>> powerful piece of software and also my congratulations on the revamp 
>> of the website - I'm considering starting a "newbie" blog with the new 
>> capabilities to help push me along the path to enlightenment....)
>>
>> Cheers
>> Gareth
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body 
>> "unsubscribe csound" 
> 
> 
> 
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