I was playing around with the ksmps value a little.
I noticed that the smaller that I made this value
the better certain aspects of my score would sound.

I never went below a value of 1 until today.  I found
that with a value of .1, .01 or even .001 that rendering
took longer, but I achieved a far greater sound quality
than ever before.  My roommate said that she couldn't 
hear the difference, but to me it was like night and day.

Tobiah

ksmps needs to be integral, it can't be less than 1. Probably
you are getting one.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tobiah" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:47 PM
Subject: [Csnd] ksmps


>I was playing around with the ksmps value a little.
> I noticed that the smaller that I made this value
> the better certain aspects of my score would sound.
>
> I never went below a value of 1 until today.  I found
> that with a value of .1, .01 or even .001 that rendering
> took longer, but I achieved a far greater sound quality
> than ever before.  My roommate said that she couldn't hear the difference, 
> but to me it was like night and day.
>
> Tobiah
>
>
> Send bugs reports to this list.
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> csound" 

In fact here, csound does not let me do that.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "victor" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 7:08 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: ksmps


> ksmps needs to be integral, it can't be less than 1. Probably
> you are getting one.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tobiah" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:47 PM
> Subject: [Csnd] ksmps
>
>
>>I was playing around with the ksmps value a little.
>> I noticed that the smaller that I made this value
>> the better certain aspects of my score would sound.
>>
>> I never went below a value of 1 until today.  I found
>> that with a value of .1, .01 or even .001 that rendering
>> took longer, but I achieved a far greater sound quality
>> than ever before.  My roommate said that she couldn't hear the 
>> difference, but to me it was like night and day.
>>
>> Tobiah
>>
>>
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I get a very good quality with reasonable render time when I set

ksmps = 1/4

Tobiah wrote:
> I was playing around with the ksmps value a little.
> I noticed that the smaller that I made this value
> the better certain aspects of my score would sound.
>
> I never went below a value of 1 until today.  I found
> that with a value of .1, .01 or even .001 that rendering
> took longer, but I achieved a far greater sound quality
> than ever before.  My roommate said that she couldn't hear the 
> difference, but to me it was like night and day.

You need to enable fractional-bit mode in your CPU, because this method 
depends on "Frail Loop" quantum reordering algorithms.  The only problem 
with this ~most timely~ refinement is that, in keeping with the 
Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, the audio quality will indeed be 
greater, but it will be greater in a different way each time you run the 
score.


Richard Dobson


victor wrote:
> In fact here, csound does not let me do that.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "victor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 7:08 PM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: ksmps
> 
> 
>> ksmps needs to be integral, it can't be less than 1. Probably
>> you are getting one.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tobiah" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:47 PM
>> Subject: [Csnd] ksmps
>>
>>
>>> I was playing around with the ksmps value a little.
>>> I noticed that the smaller that I made this value
>>> the better certain aspects of my score would sound.
>>>
>>> I never went below a value of 1 until today.  I found
>>> that with a value of .1, .01 or even .001 that rendering
>>> took longer, but I achieved a far greater sound quality
>>> than ever before.  My roommate said that she couldn't hear the 
>>> difference, but to me it was like night and day.
>>>

Richard Dobson a écrit :
> You need to enable fractional-bit mode in your CPU, because this method 
> depends on "Frail Loop" quantum reordering algorithms.  The only problem 
> with this ~most timely~ refinement is that, in keeping with the 
> Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, the audio quality will indeed be 
> greater, but it will be greater in a different way each time you run the 
> score.

... plus it probably works only once a year :)


Stef

Richard Dobson wrote:
> You need to enable fractional-bit mode in your CPU

In fact, it would be nice if there were a csound flag
that would do this for you.

I'd risk saying it's the equivalent of homeopathy for computer music.

Victor
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stéphane Rollandin" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:09 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: ksmps


> Richard Dobson a écrit :
>> You need to enable fractional-bit mode in your CPU, because this method 
>> depends on "Frail Loop" quantum reordering algorithms.  The only problem 
>> with this ~most timely~ refinement is that, in keeping with the 
>> Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, the audio quality will indeed be 
>> greater, but it will be greater in a different way each time you run the 
>> score.
>
> ... plus it probably works only once a year :)
>
>
> Stef
>
>
>
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And then with superstrings and all, there's actually no way of
determining exactly *where* the audio is going to turn up
Oeyvind

2009/4/1 victor :
> I'd risk saying it's the equivalent of homeopathy for computer music.
>
> Victor
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stéphane Rollandin"
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:09 PM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: ksmps
>
>
>> Richard Dobson a écrit :
>>>
>>> You need to enable fractional-bit mode in your CPU, because this method
>>> depends on "Frail Loop" quantum reordering algorithms.  The only problem
>>> with this ~most timely~ refinement is that, in keeping with the Heisenberg
>>> Uncertainty Principle, the audio quality will indeed be greater, but it will
>>> be greater in a different way each time you run the score.
>>
>> ... plus it probably works only once a year :)
>>
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
>>
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I just got this email advertisement today...

Sample Logic is proud to release WaterHarp!
For more info visit:
http://www.samplelogic.com/waterharp.html


Which made me think, how would I do this in 
csound? Does anyone have any suggestions of
what opcodes I could use to create this effect/sound?



Thanks,
Anthony

Hi,
It's just a samples patch for Kontact, so to do it in Csound you would
just need the audio samples and diskin2.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Anthony Palomba  wrote:
> I just got this email advertisement today...
>
> Sample Logic is proud to release WaterHarp!
> For more info visit:
> http://www.samplelogic.com/waterharp.html
>
>
> Which made me think, how would I do this in csound? Does anyone have any
> suggestions of
> what opcodes I could use to create this effect/sound?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>
>
>
>
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Andrés

No, I don't mean play back samples. I mean synthesize it...

My initial thoughts were a bank of oscillators that have different
tunings that create phase cancelation. Obviously the trick is to
"shaping" the tunings to create those shimmering effects.
I think there is some type of feedback in there as well.

Any body have any ideas?


Anthony


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andres Cabrera" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:32 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Csound water harp?


Hi,
It's just a samples patch for Kontact, so to do it in Csound you would
just need the audio samples and diskin2.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Anthony Palomba  
wrote:
> I just got this email advertisement today...
>
> Sample Logic is proud to release WaterHarp!
> For more info visit:
> http://www.samplelogic.com/waterharp.html
>
>
> Which made me think, how would I do this in csound? Does anyone have any
> suggestions of
> what opcodes I could use to create this effect/sound?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to this list.
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csound"= 

ah!.. sorry. I would think this is a prime example for physical modeling.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Anthony Palomba  wrote:
> No, I don't mean play back samples. I mean synthesize it...
>
> My initial thoughts were a bank of oscillators that have different
> tunings that create phase cancelation. Obviously the trick is to
> "shaping" the tunings to create those shimmering effects.
> I think there is some type of feedback in there as well.
>
> Any body have any ideas?
>
>
> Anthony
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:32 PM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Csound water harp?
>
>
> Hi,
> It's just a samples patch for Kontact, so to do it in Csound you would
> just need the audio samples and diskin2.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Anthony Palomba 
> wrote:
>>
>> I just got this email advertisement today...
>>
>> Sample Logic is proud to release WaterHarp!
>> For more info visit:
>> http://www.samplelogic.com/waterharp.html
>>
>>
>> Which made me think, how would I do this in csound? Does anyone have any
>> suggestions of
>> what opcodes I could use to create this effect/sound?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anthony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Andrés
>
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Andrés

ksmps=toothfairy

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:20 PM, victor  wrote:
> I'd risk saying it's the equivalent of homeopathy for computer music.
>
> Victor
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stéphane Rollandin"
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:09 PM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: ksmps
>
>
>> Richard Dobson a écrit :
>>>
>>> You need to enable fractional-bit mode in your CPU, because this method
>>> depends on "Frail Loop" quantum reordering algorithms.  The only problem
>>> with this ~most timely~ refinement is that, in keeping with the Heisenberg
>>> Uncertainty Principle, the audio quality will indeed be greater, but it will
>>> be greater in a different way each time you run the score.
>>
>> ... plus it probably works only once a year :)
>>
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
>>
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