I'm currently learning Java for the first time and according to the
University of British Columbia's introduction to Python, Python is the
language that Java should have been because of its elegant, easy-to-use
syntax
(http://cstudies.ubc.ca/a/Course/Python-Programming-Introduction/IP456/).

I said "Hello World" to Python but never learned much about it at all.

The first languages that I ever learned where Pascal (Turbo Pascal) and C++.
I found C++ hard to learn when I was first introduced to OOP and I still
haven't learned about it's encapsulation and polymorphism.

I've been trying to learn C++ for years and found Java much easier to learn
but what about Python and what's the significant difference between Python 2
and Python 3?



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At the moment Python is my favourite language, because it has an easy syntax
and is elegant and powerful.
Although Python is often used for prototyping (creating a 'sketch' program),
many times it is fast enough for the real job.

Java is the model language when it comes to OOP, and I think C# owns a lot
to Java.

Concerning Python 2 or 3, many people are not so happy with the
incompatibilities that this version 3 introduced, as you can read in some
blogs.

Richard



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Is Python 2.7 the last version in the Python 2 series or is there a 2.8 or
higher?

Which Python should a Csounder learn?

I got Python(x,y) but I never used it at all.



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Python 2.7 is the latest (and the last) in the version 2 series. I recommend
you start with that.

Richard



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It's hard to find a book distinctly for Python 2.7. Amazon Is such a
labyrinth. I like books better than web pages.
Is there such a specific book?



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Coursera has a couple of python courses planned. One is an introduction to
Python. The course is called Learn to Program: The Fundamentals. You'll be
learning Python 3 but from what I've read and understood (as noted in this
list also I think), Python 2.7 is frozen. Python 3 is the future of the
language according to their website. In any case, it might be worth a shot
to check out the free course. It may have started already but you should be
able to join (I think). It started yesterday or the day before.

https://www.coursera.org/

By the way, does Csound support Python 3? If not is there an estimate on how
long before it will?



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That is a good question. When will Csound support Python 3?


John Colgrove wrote
> Coursera has a couple of python courses planned. One is an introduction to
> Python. The course is called Learn to Program: The Fundamentals. You'll be
> learning Python 3 but from what I've read and understood (as noted in this
> list also I think), Python 2.7 is frozen. Python 3 is the future of the
> language according to their website. In any case, it might be worth a shot
> to check out the free course. It may have started already but you should
> be able to join (I think). It started yesterday or the day before.
> 
> https://www.coursera.org/
> 
> By the way, does Csound support Python 3? If not is there an estimate on
> how long before it will?





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> Java is the model language when it comes to OOP

Not to start a language war but... Smalltalk is the OOP model language :)

Stef

Some would say, simula is the OOP model language. I would claim the first OOP language is in fact MUSIC IV.
On 25 Sep 2012, at 12:21, Stéphane Rollandin wrote:

>> Java is the model language when it comes to OOP
> 
> Not to start a language war but... Smalltalk is the OOP model language :)
> 
> Stef
> 
> 
> 
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on 2012-09-24 at 20:59 John Colgrove wrote:

> It may have started already but you should be able to join (I think). It
> started yesterday or the day before.
>
>https://www.coursera.org/

thanks for the link, i have just joined the course. looks interesting. i
think you can join anytime during the week.

> Some would say, simula is the OOP model language. I would claim the first OOP language is in fact MUSIC IV.

Smalltalk is still with us, though.

Stef

There is actually an important point here - java is its own breed of
OO that gets copied quite a bit as if it were canonically what OO is
about. IMHO OO is much more about message passing and interfaces and
less about classes and inheritance; an approach which is more present
in smalltalk, CLOS, OCaml, and clojure, but java and its successors
lose sight of.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Stéphane Rollandin
 wrote:
>> Some would say, simula is the OOP model language. I would claim the first
>> OOP language is in fact MUSIC IV.
>
>
> Smalltalk is still with us, though.
>
>
> Stef
>
>
>
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> csound"
>

> I said "Hello World" to Python but never learned much about it at all.

Are you writing csound scores with python?  For this, python
excels, and you will get things done far faster than with Java.