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[Csnd] John Cage - 100 years of his birth

Date2012-09-04 22:25
FromMatti Koskinen
Subject[Csnd] John Cage - 100 years of his birth
It has just turned 5th of Sep here. I made my first soundcloud piece Jc100 http://soundcloud.com/mjk2011/jc100
It's 110 secs long piece from 9 different recordings and two short excerpts of In a Landscape and Beethoven's Piano Concerto no. 3. totalling 11 soundfiles. I had something like 30 selected files, from which I randomly picked these 11. Files are from short few seconds to over 8 mins, Looking at the activity monitor, memory got near 7 GB, when files loaded to csound. Every sample is 1.1 sec long. Using Cecilia, I selected also randomly one soundin at a time and then took 1.1 sec from the GEN01 table. I wanted to imitate Cage's Radio Music using number 11, which is used in Cage's Music for Marcel Duchamp.

There have been incredibly many films and music broadcasts around John Cage on YLE, the national broadcasting company last few days.

Hope you don't get severe nausea :-)

-matti



Date2012-09-04 23:14
Fromjohn saylor
SubjectRe: [Csnd] John Cage - 100 years of his birth
...

On 9/4/12, Matti Koskinen  wrote:
> http://soundcloud.com/mjk2011/jc100

ok. in the note that you sent you didn't mention how john cage is
relevant to this "random" selection of audio. on the soundcloud page
you have the following text.

"Inspired by John Cage's Radio Music and as 5.9.2012 it's 100 years of
his birth, so short piece using the magic number 11 as in Music for
Marcel Duchamp. Eleven sound excerpts and recordings, selecting 1.1
sec sample randomly totalling 110 secs length."

ok, so radio music inspired you.

the number 11 seems also important, but i don't think it's a "magic
number." this phrase has some antecedents within mathematics:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/MagicNumber.html

and duchamp? anything ...

perhaps you think i am taking your music "too seriously" in trying to
decipher the manner in which cage is invoked within the sounds. but i
am not sure if what you think you are taking from cage is actually
something that he put in his music. the use of chance procedures in
his music was not to make them sound "random"; rather, it was an
effort to remove his personal prejudices from the music. and this was
some 30+ years ago. most listener's relationship to randomness in
music has grown a lot since then ...

happy birthday!

-- 
\js [http://or8.net/~johns/] : "complete obscure contrariness"

Date2012-09-05 05:54
FromTarmo Johannes
SubjectRe: [Csnd] John Cage - 100 years of his birth
hi,

nice celebration! reminds me also principles of Imaginary Landscape no 5 (for 
42 records)


tarmo

On Wednesday 05 September 2012 00:25:53 Matti Koskinen wrote:
> It has just turned 5th of Sep here. I made my first soundcloud piece Jc100
> http://soundcloud.com/mjk2011/jc100 It's 110 secs long piece from 9
> different recordings and two short excerpts of In a Landscape and
> Beethoven's Piano Concerto no. 3. totalling 11 soundfiles. I had something
> like 30 selected files, from which I randomly picked these 11. Files are
> from short few seconds to over 8 mins, Looking at the activity monitor,
> memory got near 7 GB, when files loaded to csound. Every sample is 1.1 sec
> long. Using Cecilia, I selected also randomly one soundin at a time and
> then took 1.1 sec from the GEN01 table. I wanted to imitate Cage's Radio
> Music using number 11, which is used in Cage's Music for Marcel Duchamp.
> 
> There have been incredibly many films and music broadcasts around John Cage
> on YLE, the national broadcasting company last few days.
> 
> Hope you don't get severe nausea :-)
> 
> -matti
> 
> 
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