[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: new csound music

Date	2008-09-16 01:23
From	"Art Hunkins"
Subject	[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: new csound music
	Joachim, I did mean pan (rather than pan2, of which I was inexcuseably unaware) - using the first two outputs only (stereo mode). I understand you to be saying that what you have done is equivalent to using a quarter-sinusoid (in pan) as a stored function. All I can figure is that your use of discrete events must naturally give more vivid placement than the sustained pans I am doing. I'm looking forward to John's explanation of the various modes of pan2. (Perhaps you've also some experience with pan2?) Art Hunkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "joachim heintz" To: Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 11:05 AM Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: new csound music > Hello Art - > > I'm not quite sure if I understand you correctly (the pan opcode is for > four channels - do you mean pan2?). My code (as I hope) uses the constant > power panning, so that the quadrats of the amplitudes are always (more or > less) the same. As you said, this is done by the first quadrant of a sine > respectively cosine function. It's just that I like to have the range > from -1 to +1 as input, so I have to do one more transformation. > > I think this is what you meant, right? If not, sorry for my > misunderstanding. Best - > > joachim > > > > > Am 14.09.2008 um 23:24 schrieb Art Hunkins: > >> Thanks, Joachim. >> >> I've extracted the following bits of code from your 070913.csd, which >> seems to include your pan algorithm. Can you or someone else tell me >> whether this duplicates the content of the pan opcode, assuming: 1) >> stereo, and 2) use of a stored function consisting of the first quadrant >> of a sinusoid? >> >> If so, I'm somewhat amazed, as your placement is so clear, and my use of >> pan is so indistinct in comparison. >> >> Art Hunkins >> >> ---------------------------------- >> >> ;;Panning umformen >> >> ipan = (ipan+1) / 2; jetzt 0=links und 1=rechts >> >> ipan = ipan * $M_PI_2; pi/2 >> >> ipanL = cos(ipan) >> >> ipanR = sin(ipan) >> >> ;;gesamtsignal >> >> aL = a1L + a2L + a3L + a4L + a5L >> >> aR = a1R + a2R + a3R + a4R + a5R >> >> ;mit panning >> >> aL = aL * ipanL >> >> aR = aR * ipanR >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "joachim heintz" >> >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 3:44 PM >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: new csound music >> >> >>> Thanks for your feedback and interest. Meanwhile, I've put the .csd >>> files there, too. As to your question, perhaps you like to have a look >>> in "070913.csd". It's one year ago I worked on this piece, so I can't >>> recall exactly. But as far as I read the code roughly, the panning is >>> just done by jumping from one defined point in the stereo field to >>> another, in conjunction with the overall idea and structure of the >>> piece. >>> If you have any question to the code, I'll try to explain it with >>> pleasure. And surely there can be found improvements ... >>> Best - >>> joachim >>> >>> >>> >>> Am 14.09.2008 um 19:20 schrieb Art Hunkins: >>> >>>> Joachim, >>>> >>>> Fine, subtle atmospheric music. >>>> >>>> I too would like to see the .csd's - especially of Rad (#5). In this >>>> movement, placement of the percussive events in the stereo field is >>>> especially vivid. >>>> >>>> Perhaps you could explain the code behind this effect. I would surely >>>> like to know how you got such specific location. >>>> >>>> Art Hunkins >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "joachim heintz" >>>> >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 8:28 AM >>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: new csound music >>>> >>>> >>>>> ok - i'll put the .csd too, but i have to look for them first. they >>>>> will be in the same directory then. >>>>> joachim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 14.09.2008 um 14:10 schrieb Super Pija: >>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately, if the .csd/ .orc and .sco files are not >>>>>> available, it means nothing to know that u composed that works with >>>>>> csound. >>>>>> Spija >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>>> From: joachim heintz >>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 2:07:23 PM >>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] new csound music >>>>>> >>>>>> I finished recently a set of compositions which I carried out >>>>>> completely in Csound (except of some mixing etc). They are meant as >>>>>> musical comments to poems of Heinrich Heine, and will probably >>>>>> appear >>>>>> at any time on a CD together with the poems. I put the pieces on >>>>>> http://joachimheintz.de/heine_mp3/ >>>>>> Best - >>>>>> joachim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>> "unsubscribe csound" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>> "unsubscribe csound" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>> "unsubscribe csound" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>> "unsubscribe csound" >>> >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>> "unsubscribe csound" >> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to this list. >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >> csound" > > > > Send bugs reports to this list. > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe > csound"

Date	2008-09-16 11:38
From	joachim heintz
Subject	[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: new csound music
	I see. And thanks for the idea of using pan in this (non-four- channel) way - I must admit that I never thought about that. Yes, I like to use pan2 now. As John said, I think it works fine now (since 5.08). Best regards - joachim Am 16.09.2008 um 02:23 schrieb Art Hunkins: > Joachim, > > I did mean pan (rather than pan2, of which I was inexcuseably > unaware) - using the first two outputs only (stereo mode). > > I understand you to be saying that what you have done is equivalent > to using a quarter-sinusoid (in pan) as a stored function. > > All I can figure is that your use of discrete events must naturally > give more vivid placement than the sustained pans I am doing. > > I'm looking forward to John's explanation of the various modes of > pan2. (Perhaps you've also some experience with pan2?) > > Art Hunkins > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "joachim heintz" > > To: > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 11:05 AM > Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: new csound music > > >> Hello Art - >> >> I'm not quite sure if I understand you correctly (the pan opcode >> is for four channels - do you mean pan2?). My code (as I hope) >> uses the constant power panning, so that the quadrats of the >> amplitudes are always (more or less) the same. As you said, this >> is done by the first quadrant of a sine respectively cosine >> function. It's just that I like to have the range from -1 to +1 >> as input, so I have to do one more transformation. >> >> I think this is what you meant, right? If not, sorry for my >> misunderstanding. Best - >> >> joachim >> >> >> >> >> Am 14.09.2008 um 23:24 schrieb Art Hunkins: >> >>> Thanks, Joachim. >>> >>> I've extracted the following bits of code from your 070913.csd, >>> which seems to include your pan algorithm. Can you or someone >>> else tell me whether this duplicates the content of the pan >>> opcode, assuming: 1) stereo, and 2) use of a stored function >>> consisting of the first quadrant of a sinusoid? >>> >>> If so, I'm somewhat amazed, as your placement is so clear, and >>> my use of pan is so indistinct in comparison. >>> >>> Art Hunkins >>> >>> ---------------------------------- >>> >>> ;;Panning umformen >>> >>> ipan = (ipan+1) / 2; jetzt 0=links und 1=rechts >>> >>> ipan = ipan * $M_PI_2; pi/2 >>> >>> ipanL = cos(ipan) >>> >>> ipanR = sin(ipan) >>> >>> ;;gesamtsignal >>> >>> aL = a1L + a2L + a3L + a4L + a5L >>> >>> aR = a1R + a2R + a3R + a4R + a5R >>> >>> ;mit panning >>> >>> aL = aL * ipanL >>> >>> aR = aR * ipanR >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "joachim heintz" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 3:44 PM >>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: new csound music >>> >>> >>>> Thanks for your feedback and interest. Meanwhile, I've put >>>> the .csd files there, too. As to your question, perhaps you >>>> like to have a look in "070913.csd". It's one year ago I >>>> worked on this piece, so I can't recall exactly. But as far as >>>> I read the code roughly, the panning is just done by jumping >>>> from one defined point in the stereo field to another, in >>>> conjunction with the overall idea and structure of the piece. >>>> If you have any question to the code, I'll try to explain it >>>> with pleasure. And surely there can be found improvements ... >>>> Best - >>>> joachim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 14.09.2008 um 19:20 schrieb Art Hunkins: >>>> >>>>> Joachim, >>>>> >>>>> Fine, subtle atmospheric music. >>>>> >>>>> I too would like to see the .csd's - especially of Rad (#5). >>>>> In this movement, placement of the percussive events in the >>>>> stereo field is especially vivid. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps you could explain the code behind this effect. I >>>>> would surely like to know how you got such specific location. >>>>> >>>>> Art Hunkins >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "joachim heintz" >>>>> >>>>> To: >>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 8:28 AM >>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: new csound music >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> ok - i'll put the .csd too, but i have to look for them >>>>>> first. they will be in the same directory then. >>>>>> joachim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 14.09.2008 um 14:10 schrieb Super Pija: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Unfortunately, if the .csd/ .orc and .sco files are not >>>>>>> available, it means nothing to know that u composed that >>>>>>> works with csound. >>>>>>> Spija >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>>>> From: joachim heintz >>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 2:07:23 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] new csound music >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I finished recently a set of compositions which I carried out >>>>>>> completely in Csound (except of some mixing etc). They are >>>>>>> meant as >>>>>>> musical comments to poems of Heinrich Heine, and will >>>>>>> probably appear >>>>>>> at any time on a CD together with the poems. I put the pieces on >>>>>>> http://joachimheintz.de/heine_mp3/ >>>>>>> Best - >>>>>>> joachim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>> "unsubscribe csound" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>> "unsubscribe csound" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>> "unsubscribe csound" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>> "unsubscribe csound" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>> "unsubscribe csound" >>> >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>> "unsubscribe csound" >> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to this list. >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >> "unsubscribe csound" > > > > Send bugs reports to this list. > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > "unsubscribe csound"