[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: problem with envelope (Please help a very frustrated composer!!)

Date	2008-09-20 08:25
From	victor
Subject	[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: problem with envelope (Please help a very frustrated composer!!)
	But the max external will need to be linked to the 64bit framework whatever its name. Even if it is the same, it would not work, because the floating point sizes are different. It needs to be built with -DUSE_DOUBLE and linked again to work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "peiman" To: Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:33 AM Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: problem with envelope (Please help a very frustrated composer!!) > > Thanks! > > For now I'll go back to the float version to keep busy at the weekend! I > should say that the click remains when I render to disk - see attached png > ( > http://www.nabble.com/file/p19580977/Picture%2B1.png Picture+1.png I've > increased the amplitude to make it more visible). > > There is one issue with the frameworks I should mention. If csound64 is > installed in framewoks64 as opposed to frameworks then csound~ max/msp > external cannot run using the double version. The shell looks for > framewoks/ > and gives an error message when trying to run csound within max. > > I guess this could also be fixed by releasing two versions of csound~. > I'll > have to email the creator and ask if that is possible. > > Best > Peiman > > > > Victor Lazzarini wrote: >> >> I can try your code on Monday in OSX csound 64 (I have been building one >> to consider how to package it, I'm thinking of supplying 5.09 with both >> frameworks, but have to think about how best to do it). >> >> Victor >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: peiman khosravi >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:58 PM >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: problem with envelope (Please help a very >> frustrated composer!!) >> >> >> Thanks for testing Victor. In that case it sounds like a problem with >> the double version (or at least on OSX). >> >> >> Just the thing I didn't want to hear!! :-( >> >> >> Thanks >> Peiman >> >> >> 2008/9/19 victor >> >> I ran your CSD here and got no noticeable click at the end (I am >> using >> floats version). >> >> Victor >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "peiman" >> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:27 PM >> Subject: [Csnd] problem with envelope (Please help a very frustrated >> composer!!) >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello >> >> Please tell me I've lost my mind and am doing something completely >> stupid! >> I've managed to narrow the problem down to one sine-tone after >> hours >> of >> striping my orchestra. >> >> For some reason when I run the attached csd I get a click right at >> the end. >> However, increasing ksmps from 1 to 16 gets rid of the glitch. This >> is >> strange as the envelope is k-rate and should only get better with >> higher >> control rate. >> >> I'm on csound64.... >> >> Any suggestions will save me hours of head-banging! >> >> All the best >> Peiman >> >> >> >> >> >> >> sr=96000 >> ksmps=1 >> nchnls=2 >> >> 0dbfs = 1 >> >> >> instr 4 >> ;p4 = freq >> ;p5 = pitch transpose (in cent) >> ;p6 = gain scale >> ;p7 = panner initial phase >> >> >> itablecreate ftgen 0, 0, 65537, -7, 0.0, 12837.14453125, >> 0.020270288, >> 9627.859375, 0.0405405164, 5067.29296875, 0.0743243098, >> 3378.1953125, >> 0.1216216087, 3716.015625, 0.2432432175, 3209.28515625, >> 0.3581081033, >> 3547.109375, 0.6013513803, 2026.91796875, 0.8040540218, >> 1013.45703125, >> 0.9662162066, 1520.18359375, 0.8783783913, 844.5546875, >> 0.6621621847, >> 2533.64453125, 0.3783783913, 2702.5546875, 0.2364864945, >> 2533.6484375, >> 0.0945945978, 3616.171875, 0.0427509546, 7362.96484375, 0.0 >> >> ktime = .1 >> igain = p6 >> >> >> iscale = cent(p5) >> >> >> kfreq0 = p4 >> kamp0 = .1 >> >> kenv oscili kamp0igain,1/p3,itablecreate >> >> ar oscili kenv, kfreq0iscale, 1 >> kpan oscili 1,.3 , 1, p7 >> kpan = kpan + .5 >> >> aoutl = ar * (1 - kpan) >> aoutr = ar * kpan >> >> out aoutl, aoutr >> >> >> endin >> >> >> >> >> >> >> f 1 0 32769 10 1 >> >> >> t 0 60.0 >> >> >> i4.0 2.558442 20.3125 440 0 1.0 0.55980074 >> e >> >> >> >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p19577988/test.csd >> test.csd >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/problem-with-envelope-%28Please-help-a-very-frustrated-composer%21%21%29-tp19577988p19577988.html >> Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to this list. >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >> "unsubscribe csound" >> >> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to this list. >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >> "unsubscribe csound" >> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to this list. >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >> csound" >> > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/problem-with-envelope-%28Please-help-a-very-frustrated-composer%21%21%29-tp19577988p19580977.html > Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > Send bugs reports to this list. > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe > csound"

Date	2008-09-20 14:33
From	peiman khosravi
Subject	[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: problem with envelope (Please help a very frustrated composer!!)
	I see. Makes sense. P On 20 Sep 2008, at 08:25, victor wrote: > But the max external will need to be linked to the 64bit framework > whatever its name. Even if it is the same, it would not work, because > the floating point sizes are different. It needs to be built with - > DUSE_DOUBLE > and linked again to work. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "peiman" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:33 AM > Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: problem with envelope (Please help a > very frustrated composer!!) > > >> >> Thanks! >> >> For now I'll go back to the float version to keep busy at the >> weekend! I >> should say that the click remains when I render to disk - see >> attached png ( >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p19580977/Picture%2B1.png Picture+1.png >> I've >> increased the amplitude to make it more visible). >> >> There is one issue with the frameworks I should mention. If >> csound64 is >> installed in framewoks64 as opposed to frameworks then csound~ max/ >> msp >> external cannot run using the double version. The shell looks for >> framewoks/ >> and gives an error message when trying to run csound within max. >> >> I guess this could also be fixed by releasing two versions of >> csound~. I'll >> have to email the creator and ask if that is possible. >> >> Best >> Peiman >> >> >> >> Victor Lazzarini wrote: >>> >>> I can try your code on Monday in OSX csound 64 (I have been >>> building one >>> to consider how to package it, I'm thinking of supplying 5.09 >>> with both >>> frameworks, but have to think about how best to do it). >>> >>> Victor >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: peiman khosravi >>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:58 PM >>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: problem with envelope (Please help a very >>> frustrated composer!!) >>> >>> >>> Thanks for testing Victor. In that case it sounds like a >>> problem with >>> the double version (or at least on OSX). >>> >>> >>> Just the thing I didn't want to hear!! :-( >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> Peiman >>> >>> >>> 2008/9/19 victor >>> >>> I ran your CSD here and got no noticeable click at the end (I >>> am using >>> floats version). >>> >>> Victor >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "peiman" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:27 PM >>> Subject: [Csnd] problem with envelope (Please help a very >>> frustrated >>> composer!!) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello >>> >>> Please tell me I've lost my mind and am doing something >>> completely >>> stupid! >>> I've managed to narrow the problem down to one sine-tone >>> after hours >>> of >>> striping my orchestra. >>> >>> For some reason when I run the attached csd I get a click >>> right at >>> the end. >>> However, increasing ksmps from 1 to 16 gets rid of the >>> glitch. This >>> is >>> strange as the envelope is k-rate and should only get >>> better with >>> higher >>> control rate. >>> >>> I'm on csound64.... >>> >>> Any suggestions will save me hours of head-banging! >>> >>> All the best >>> Peiman >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> sr=96000 >>> ksmps=1 >>> nchnls=2 >>> >>> 0dbfs = 1 >>> >>> >>> instr 4 >>> ;p4 = freq >>> ;p5 = pitch transpose (in cent) >>> ;p6 = gain scale >>> ;p7 = panner initial phase >>> >>> >>> itablecreate ftgen 0, 0, 65537, -7, 0.0, 12837.14453125, >>> 0.020270288, >>> 9627.859375, 0.0405405164, 5067.29296875, 0.0743243098, >>> 3378.1953125, >>> 0.1216216087, 3716.015625, 0.2432432175, 3209.28515625, >>> 0.3581081033, >>> 3547.109375, 0.6013513803, 2026.91796875, 0.8040540218, >>> 1013.45703125, >>> 0.9662162066, 1520.18359375, 0.8783783913, 844.5546875, >>> 0.6621621847, >>> 2533.64453125, 0.3783783913, 2702.5546875, 0.2364864945, >>> 2533.6484375, >>> 0.0945945978, 3616.171875, 0.0427509546, 7362.96484375, 0.0 >>> >>> ktime = .1 >>> igain = p6 >>> >>> >>> iscale = cent(p5) >>> >>> >>> kfreq0 = p4 >>> kamp0 = .1 >>> >>> kenv oscili kamp0igain,1/p3,itablecreate >>> >>> ar oscili kenv, kfreq0iscale, 1 >>> kpan oscili 1,.3 , 1, p7 >>> kpan = kpan + .5 >>> >>> aoutl = ar * (1 - kpan) >>> aoutr = ar * kpan >>> >>> out aoutl, aoutr >>> >>> >>> endin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> f 1 0 32769 10 1 >>> >>> >>> t 0 60.0 >>> >>> >>> i4.0 2.558442 20.3125 440 0 1.0 0.55980074 >>> e >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p19577988/ >>> test.csd >>> test.csd >>> >>> -- View this message in context: >>> http://www.nabble.com/problem-with-envelope-%28Please-help-a-very- >>> frustrated-composer%21%21%29-tp19577988p19577988.html >>> Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at >>> Nabble.com. >>> >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>> "unsubscribe csound" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>> "unsubscribe csound" >>> >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>> "unsubscribe >>> csound" >>> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/problem-with- >> envelope-%28Please-help-a-very-frustrated-composer%21%21%29- >> tp19577988p19580977.html >> Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to this list. >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >> "unsubscribe csound" > > > > Send bugs reports to this list. > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > "unsubscribe csound"