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[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT - OLPC and Korg NanoKontrol

Date2008-12-16 21:30
From"Art Hunkins"
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT - OLPC and Korg NanoKontrol
Eduardo and Andres (and others?) -

Any thoughts as to whether WINE on the OLPC would be useful/practical for 
children?

I'm thinking that this would also involve attempting to install the advanced 
Windows driver (even possible?) in order to load/run the NanoKontrol Windows 
editor to transfer a preset.

(Taking care of "MIDI configuration" within the .csd is looking better all 
the time.)

Art Hunkins


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andres Cabrera" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:45 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT - OLPC and Korg NanoKontrol


Hi,
There were recent news that a Wine activity had been built for the XO,
so this might be the solution.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Eduardo Moguillansky
 wrote:
> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>
>> Andres and Oeyvind,
>>
>> Thanks to both of you for the suggestions. Very good ideas.
>>
>> I've tried several things in exploration - for the moment just with the
>> NanoKontrol and Windows.
>>
>> 1) Treating a NanoKontrol editor-generated "scene" (single preset) file 
>> as
>> sysex, then sending it via a sysex utility to the NanoKontrol, does not
>> work. (I tried both SysEx! and MIDIOx.)
>>
>> 2) The NanoKontrol is only programmable by its editor when special 
>> drivers
>> from Korg are installed, and these are available for only Mac and Windows 
>> (I
>> have them installed on my Windows system). I'm thinking that these 
>> drivers
>> *may* be the only way the NanoKontrol can receive data from the outside
>> world. This would mean that in a Linux context, the NanoKontrol could 
>> only
>> send, not receive.
>>
>> 3) Regarding the MIDI file suggestion: Does anyone know whether, even 
>> with
>> advanced drivers, the NanoKontrol could *receive* a MIDI file? I somehow
>> doubt it. Its receive capability seems highly constrained. Should anyone 
>> be
>> interested, I'd be happy to send along a hex dump of a NanoKontrol preset
>> made by the editor.
>>
>> In the last analysis it may be best to build in a special "NanoKontrol
>> option" into my OLPC Activities that is selectable by the user (similar 
>> to
>> other user options, such as "first MIDI controller #"). It will all be 
>> built
>> in (eventually) to a Python interface anyway. I doubt that any child will 
>> be
>> running from the commandline (though perhaps csndsugui?) I'd gather that 
>> a
>> simple, child-friendly GUI is a must.
>>
>> Art Hunkins
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:19 AM
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: OT - OLPC and Korg NanoKontrol
>>
>>
>> Yes, that's a good idea. Saving the sysex dump in a standard MIDI file
>> using a sequencer, and then playing it back should restore the
>> settings.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrés
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:38 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Would it be possible to create a "configuration file" (once and for
>>> all, with your chosen setup) for the nanokontrol, on a PC or Mac, and
>>> then only facilitate the uploading of this file from the OLPC to the
>>> nanokontrol ? For example as a sysex dump or something.
>>> Oeyvind
>>>
>>> 2008/12/16 Art Hunkins :
>>>>
>>>> The Korg Nano series of controllers cannot be programmed on board -
>>>> instead
>>>> requiring an editor that runs only it seems on PC or Mac (not Linux).
>>>>
>>>> I assume this means that to alter the 4 presets on the NanoKontrol (for
>>>> example) you'd need to do it on a PC or Mac. Is this correct?
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, the presets chosen by Korg are non-standard (none of my
>>>> Csound compositions are compatible with them), and it's one of the few
>>>> MIDI
>>>> controllers that do not have at least one useable preset.
>>>>
>>>> And so (a followup question): in a typical OLPC environment, wouldn't
>>>> the
>>>> lack of useable presets be a real impediment? Or could one expect to
>>>> find a
>>>> PC or MAC in the neighborhood? (Programming is otherwise a snap.)
>>>>
>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>
> Art, there is currently a thread at LAU where people report being able to
> program the NanoKontrol through WINE. I don't know about WINE and OLPC, 
> but
> under Linux it seems to work fine.
>
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