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Date2014-05-24 19:59
Fromjpff@cs.bath.ac.uk
Subject[Csnd] Admin message: AOL and Yahoo users
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Date2014-05-25 09:02
FromDavid Worrall
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Admin message: AOL and Yahoo users
Perhaps there is a new push on to deny dat to those who don't "toe the line".
Two related experiences:
- When we discovered on Friday pm that OSC interface was not in my csound6 build, I got the sources, came to the realization that the build instructions are opaque (read wrong), at least if you happen to be working on an esoteric OS like OSX. I went to register with their mailing list as was told my (Fraunhofer) email address was "insecure" so they wouldn't register me.

- I went to get some material from sourceforge this mornig and was asked to accept choose whether to accept various types of cookies. When I denied the advertising ones, the site informed me the resouce was not available.

mmm. What a wonderful world…..

D.


On 24.05.2014, at 20:59, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:


Just to note that AOL and Yahoo users are not getting all csound list mail for "policy reasons"

For example yahoo say
Message not accepted for policy reasons.  See http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html

and AOL say
DMARC) This message failed DMARC Evaluation for an AOL Domain. For more information please visit http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2014/04/22/aol-mail-updates-dmarc-policy-to-reject/
 drmrmathis@aol.com

such users may with to complain to AOL/Yahoo

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______________________________________
Prof. Dr. David Worrall
Emerging Audio Research (EAR)
Audio Department
International Audio Laboratories Erlangen
Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS
Am Wolfsmantel 33
91058 Erlangen
Telefon  +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 44
Fax      +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99
E-Mail: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de
Internet: www.iis.fraunhofer.de 
---
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School of Music, Australian National University





Date2014-05-25 11:03
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Admin message: AOL and Yahoo users
What’s wrong with the build instructions?

Btw, to get the OSC opcodes, you can

1) build and install liblo (but avoid version 0.28)
2) run cmake  with -DBUILD_OSC_OPCODES=1  (and possibly -DLIBLO_LIBRARY=   if LIBLO_NOT_FOUND is shown)

that should do it.
========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
NUI Maynooth, Ireland
victor dot lazzarini at nuim dot ie




On 25 May 2014, at 09:02, David Worrall  wrote:

> Perhaps there is a new push on to deny dat to those who don't "toe the line".
> Two related experiences:
> - When we discovered on Friday pm that OSC interface was not in my csound6 build, I got the sources, came to the realization that the build instructions are opaque (read wrong), at least if you happen to be working on an esoteric OS like OSX. I went to register with their mailing list as was told my (Fraunhofer) email address was "insecure" so they wouldn't register me.
> 
> - I went to get some material from sourceforge this mornig and was asked to accept choose whether to accept various types of cookies. When I denied the advertising ones, the site informed me the resouce was not available.
> 
> mmm. What a wonderful world…..
> 
> D.
> 
> 
> On 24.05.2014, at 20:59, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Just to note that AOL and Yahoo users are not getting all csound list mail for "policy reasons"
>> 
>> For example yahoo say
>> Message not accepted for policy reasons.  See http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html
>> 
>> and AOL say
>> DMARC) This message failed DMARC Evaluation for an AOL Domain. For more information please visit http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2014/04/22/aol-mail-updates-dmarc-policy-to-reject/
>>  drmrmathis@aol.com
>> 
>> such users may with to complain to AOL/Yahoo
>> 
>> ==Admin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Send bugs reports to
>>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> ______________________________________
> Prof. Dr. David Worrall
> Emerging Audio Research (EAR)
> Audio Department
> International Audio Laboratories Erlangen
> Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS
> Am Wolfsmantel 33
> 91058 Erlangen
> Telefon  +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 44
> Fax      +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99
> E-Mail: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de
> Internet: www.iis.fraunhofer.de 
> ---
> Adjunct Senior Research Fellow
> School of Music, Australian National University
> david.worrall@anu.edu.au
> 
> 
> 
> 



Date2014-05-25 11:51
FromDavid Worrall
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Admin message: AOL and Yahoo users
Morning,

[For the sake of others doing this
...liblo sources INSTALL say to execute ./configure - but the file doesn't exist.
If you run the only executable in the home dir. (autogen.sh) it tells you that you need to install _its_ dependencies
which then enabled me to build liblo]
but I installed the latest version - 0.28 of course :-) 

and i get the following on cs6 build

--OSC_HEADER="", so disabling BUILD_OSC_OPCODES

I'll try w. an earlier version.

BTW the instructions in csnd6 BUILD in the dependencies section, there's a word missing in first para:
"it should say "you can [use] the same parameters"

at point 2, to which it refers (building libsndfile) it says
"./configure --prefix=HOME"
I think that should be 
"./configure --prefix=$HOME"

which I haven't bothered with for any of the dependencies I've build in the past.

I'll try an earlier version of liblo and report back.


D.



On 25.05.2014, at 12:03, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:

What’s wrong with the build instructions?

Btw, to get the OSC opcodes, you can

1) build and install liblo (but avoid version 0.28)
2) run cmake  with -DBUILD_OSC_OPCODES=1  (and possibly -DLIBLO_LIBRARY=<full path to your liblo.dylib>   if LIBLO_NOT_FOUND is shown)

that should do it.
========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
NUI Maynooth, Ireland
victor dot lazzarini at nuim dot ie




On 25 May 2014, at 09:02, David Worrall <david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de> wrote:

Perhaps there is a new push on to deny dat to those who don't "toe the line".
Two related experiences:
- When we discovered on Friday pm that OSC interface was not in my csound6 build, I got the sources, came to the realization that the build instructions are opaque (read wrong), at least if you happen to be working on an esoteric OS like OSX. I went to register with their mailing list as was told my (Fraunhofer) email address was "insecure" so they wouldn't register me.

- I went to get some material from sourceforge this mornig and was asked to accept choose whether to accept various types of cookies. When I denied the advertising ones, the site informed me the resouce was not available.

mmm. What a wonderful world…..

D.


On 24.05.2014, at 20:59, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:


Just to note that AOL and Yahoo users are not getting all csound list mail for "policy reasons"

For example yahoo say
Message not accepted for policy reasons.  See http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html

and AOL say
DMARC) This message failed DMARC Evaluation for an AOL Domain. For more information please visit http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2014/04/22/aol-mail-updates-dmarc-policy-to-reject/
drmrmathis@aol.com

such users may with to complain to AOL/Yahoo

==Admin




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     https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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______________________________________
Prof. Dr. David Worrall
Emerging Audio Research (EAR)
Audio Department
International Audio Laboratories Erlangen
Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS
Am Wolfsmantel 33
91058 Erlangen
Telefon  +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 44
Fax      +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99
E-Mail: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de
Internet: www.iis.fraunhofer.de
---
Adjunct Senior Research Fellow
School of Music, Australian National University
david.worrall@anu.edu.au







Send bugs reports to
       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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______________________________________
Prof. Dr. David Worrall
Emerging Audio Research (EAR)
Audio Department
International Audio Laboratories Erlangen
Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS
Am Wolfsmantel 33
91058 Erlangen
Telefon  +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 44
Fax      +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99
E-Mail: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de
Internet: www.iis.fraunhofer.de 
---
Adjunct Senior Research Fellow
School of Music, Australian National University





Date2014-05-25 12:19
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Admin message: AOL and Yahoo users
There is a problem with liblo 0.28; but as you appreciate, it’s outside our control.  Of course, if you
have not built and insatalled it, the csound 6 build will not find it.

========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
NUI Maynooth, Ireland
victor dot lazzarini at nuim dot ie




On 25 May 2014, at 11:51, David Worrall  wrote:

> Morning,
> 
> [For the sake of others doing this
> ...liblo sources INSTALL say to execute ./configure - but the file doesn't exist.
> If you run the only executable in the home dir. (autogen.sh) it tells you that you need to install _its_ dependencies
> which then enabled me to build liblo]
> but I installed the latest version - 0.28 of course :-) 
> 
> and i get the following on cs6 build
> 
> --OSC_HEADER="", so disabling BUILD_OSC_OPCODES
> 
> I'll try w. an earlier version.
> 
> BTW the instructions in csnd6 BUILD in the dependencies section, there's a word missing in first para:
> "it should say "you can [use] the same parameters"
> 
> at point 2, to which it refers (building libsndfile) it says
> "./configure --prefix=HOME"
> I think that should be 
> "./configure --prefix=$HOME"
> 
> which I haven't bothered with for any of the dependencies I've build in the past.
> 
> I'll try an earlier version of liblo and report back.
> 
> 
> D.
> 
> 
> 
> On 25.05.2014, at 12:03, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> 
>> What’s wrong with the build instructions?
>> 
>> Btw, to get the OSC opcodes, you can
>> 
>> 1) build and install liblo (but avoid version 0.28)
>> 2) run cmake  with -DBUILD_OSC_OPCODES=1  (and possibly -DLIBLO_LIBRARY=   if LIBLO_NOT_FOUND is shown)
>> 
>> that should do it.
>> ========================
>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>> Senior Lecturer
>> NUI Maynooth, Ireland
>> victor dot lazzarini at nuim dot ie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 25 May 2014, at 09:02, David Worrall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Perhaps there is a new push on to deny dat to those who don't "toe the line".
>>> Two related experiences:
>>> - When we discovered on Friday pm that OSC interface was not in my csound6 build, I got the sources, came to the realization that the build instructions are opaque (read wrong), at least if you happen to be working on an esoteric OS like OSX. I went to register with their mailing list as was told my (Fraunhofer) email address was "insecure" so they wouldn't register me.
>>> 
>>> - I went to get some material from sourceforge this mornig and was asked to accept choose whether to accept various types of cookies. When I denied the advertising ones, the site informed me the resouce was not available.
>>> 
>>> mmm. What a wonderful world…..
>>> 
>>> D.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 24.05.2014, at 20:59, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Just to note that AOL and Yahoo users are not getting all csound list mail for "policy reasons"
>>>> 
>>>> For example yahoo say
>>>> Message not accepted for policy reasons.  See http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html
>>>> 
>>>> and AOL say
>>>> DMARC) This message failed DMARC Evaluation for an AOL Domain. For more information please visit http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2014/04/22/aol-mail-updates-dmarc-policy-to-reject/
>>>> drmrmathis@aol.com
>>>> 
>>>> such users may with to complain to AOL/Yahoo
>>>> 
>>>> ==Admin
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>      https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> ______________________________________
>>> Prof. Dr. David Worrall
>>> Emerging Audio Research (EAR)
>>> Audio Department
>>> International Audio Laboratories Erlangen
>>> Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS
>>> Am Wolfsmantel 33
>>> 91058 Erlangen
>>> Telefon  +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 44
>>> Fax      +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99
>>> E-Mail: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de
>>> Internet: www.iis.fraunhofer.de 
>>> ---
>>> Adjunct Senior Research Fellow
>>> School of Music, Australian National University
>>> david.worrall@anu.edu.au
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Send bugs reports to
>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> ______________________________________
> Prof. Dr. David Worrall
> Emerging Audio Research (EAR)
> Audio Department
> International Audio Laboratories Erlangen
> Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS
> Am Wolfsmantel 33
> 91058 Erlangen
> Telefon  +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 44
> Fax      +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99
> E-Mail: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de
> Internet: www.iis.fraunhofer.de 
> ---
> Adjunct Senior Research Fellow
> School of Music, Australian National University
> david.worrall@anu.edu.au
> 
> 
> 
> 



Date2014-05-25 12:24
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Admin message: AOL and Yahoo users
Those instructions are for building in your local directory, not for the general case. For that you don’t
need to configure it differently, because it goes to /usr/local/ by default.

I updated the build.MD file with your typo corrections, thanks.

========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
NUI Maynooth, Ireland
victor dot lazzarini at nuim dot ie




On 25 May 2014, at 11:51, David Worrall  wrote:

> BTW the instructions in csnd6 BUILD in the dependencies section, there's a word missing in first para:
> "it should say "you can [use] the same parameters"
> 
> at point 2, to which it refers (building libsndfile) it says
> "./configure --prefix=HOME"
> I think that should be 
> "./configure --prefix=$HOME"
> 
> which I haven't bothered with for any of the dependencies I've build in the past.
> 



Date2014-05-25 12:42
FromDavid Worrall
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Admin message: AOL and Yahoo users
I don't quite understand your "Of course.." point. I'm had build and installed liblo 0.28 - which did look buggy, I must say, but have now installed 0.27.

oscsend and oscdumpare both in /usr/local/bin and can be found with 'where'

D
On 25.05.2014, at 13:19, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:

There is a problem with liblo 0.28; but as you appreciate, it’s outside our control.  Of course, if you
have not built and insatalled it, the csound 6 build will not find it.

========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
NUI Maynooth, Ireland
victor dot lazzarini at nuim dot ie




On 25 May 2014, at 11:51, David Worrall <david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de> wrote:

Morning,

[For the sake of others doing this
...liblo sources INSTALL say to execute ./configure - but the file doesn't exist.
If you run the only executable in the home dir. (autogen.sh) it tells you that you need to install _its_ dependencies
which then enabled me to build liblo]
but I installed the latest version - 0.28 of course :-)

and i get the following on cs6 build

--OSC_HEADER="", so disabling BUILD_OSC_OPCODES

I'll try w. an earlier version.

BTW the instructions in csnd6 BUILD in the dependencies section, there's a word missing in first para:
"it should say "you can [use] the same parameters"

at point 2, to which it refers (building libsndfile) it says
"./configure --prefix=HOME"
I think that should be
"./configure --prefix=$HOME"

which I haven't bothered with for any of the dependencies I've build in the past.

I'll try an earlier version of liblo and report back.


D.



On 25.05.2014, at 12:03, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:

What’s wrong with the build instructions?

Btw, to get the OSC opcodes, you can

1) build and install liblo (but avoid version 0.28)
2) run cmake  with -DBUILD_OSC_OPCODES=1  (and possibly -DLIBLO_LIBRARY=<full path to your liblo.dylib>   if LIBLO_NOT_FOUND is shown)

that should do it.
========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
NUI Maynooth, Ireland
victor dot lazzarini at nuim dot ie




On 25 May 2014, at 09:02, David Worrall <david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de> wrote:

Perhaps there is a new push on to deny dat to those who don't "toe the line".
Two related experiences:
- When we discovered on Friday pm that OSC interface was not in my csound6 build, I got the sources, came to the realization that the build instructions are opaque (read wrong), at least if you happen to be working on an esoteric OS like OSX. I went to register with their mailing list as was told my (Fraunhofer) email address was "insecure" so they wouldn't register me.

- I went to get some material from sourceforge this mornig and was asked to accept choose whether to accept various types of cookies. When I denied the advertising ones, the site informed me the resouce was not available.

mmm. What a wonderful world…..

D.


On 24.05.2014, at 20:59, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:


Just to note that AOL and Yahoo users are not getting all csound list mail for "policy reasons"

For example yahoo say
Message not accepted for policy reasons.  See http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html

and AOL say
DMARC) This message failed DMARC Evaluation for an AOL Domain. For more information please visit http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2014/04/22/aol-mail-updates-dmarc-policy-to-reject/
drmrmathis@aol.com

such users may with to complain to AOL/Yahoo

==Admin




Send bugs reports to
    https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"




______________________________________
Prof. Dr. David Worrall
Emerging Audio Research (EAR)
Audio Department
International Audio Laboratories Erlangen
Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS
Am Wolfsmantel 33
91058 Erlangen
Telefon  +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 44
Fax      +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99
E-Mail: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de
Internet: www.iis.fraunhofer.de
---
Adjunct Senior Research Fellow
School of Music, Australian National University
david.worrall@anu.edu.au







Send bugs reports to
      https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"




______________________________________
Prof. Dr. David Worrall
Emerging Audio Research (EAR)
Audio Department
International Audio Laboratories Erlangen
Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS
Am Wolfsmantel 33
91058 Erlangen
Telefon  +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 44
Fax      +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99
E-Mail: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de
Internet: www.iis.fraunhofer.de
---
Adjunct Senior Research Fellow
School of Music, Australian National University
david.worrall@anu.edu.au







Send bugs reports to
       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"




______________________________________
Prof. Dr. David Worrall
Emerging Audio Research (EAR)
Audio Department
International Audio Laboratories Erlangen
Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS
Am Wolfsmantel 33
91058 Erlangen
Telefon  +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 44
Fax      +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99
E-Mail: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de
Internet: www.iis.fraunhofer.de 
---
Adjunct Senior Research Fellow
School of Music, Australian National University





Date2014-05-25 17:31
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Admin message: AOL and Yahoo users
>From what you’ve said liblo 2.8 was not built and installed correctly. It never did here.
========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
NUI Maynooth, Ireland
victor dot lazzarini at nuim dot ie




On 25 May 2014, at 12:42, David Worrall  wrote:

> I don't quite understand your "Of course.." point. I'm had build and installed liblo 0.28 - which did look buggy, I must say, but have now installed 0.27.
> 
> oscsend and oscdumpare both in /usr/local/bin and can be found with 'where'
> 
> D
> On 25.05.2014, at 13:19, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> 
>> There is a problem with liblo 0.28; but as you appreciate, it’s outside our control.  Of course, if you
>> have not built and insatalled it, the csound 6 build will not find it.
>> 
>> ========================
>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>> Senior Lecturer
>> NUI Maynooth, Ireland
>> victor dot lazzarini at nuim dot ie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 25 May 2014, at 11:51, David Worrall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Morning,
>>> 
>>> [For the sake of others doing this
>>> ...liblo sources INSTALL say to execute ./configure - but the file doesn't exist.
>>> If you run the only executable in the home dir. (autogen.sh) it tells you that you need to install _its_ dependencies
>>> which then enabled me to build liblo]
>>> but I installed the latest version - 0.28 of course :-) 
>>> 
>>> and i get the following on cs6 build
>>> 
>>> --OSC_HEADER="", so disabling BUILD_OSC_OPCODES
>>> 
>>> I'll try w. an earlier version.
>>> 
>>> BTW the instructions in csnd6 BUILD in the dependencies section, there's a word missing in first para:
>>> "it should say "you can [use] the same parameters"
>>> 
>>> at point 2, to which it refers (building libsndfile) it says
>>> "./configure --prefix=HOME"
>>> I think that should be 
>>> "./configure --prefix=$HOME"
>>> 
>>> which I haven't bothered with for any of the dependencies I've build in the past.
>>> 
>>> I'll try an earlier version of liblo and report back.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> D.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 25.05.2014, at 12:03, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What’s wrong with the build instructions?
>>>> 
>>>> Btw, to get the OSC opcodes, you can
>>>> 
>>>> 1) build and install liblo (but avoid version 0.28)
>>>> 2) run cmake  with -DBUILD_OSC_OPCODES=1  (and possibly -DLIBLO_LIBRARY=   if LIBLO_NOT_FOUND is shown)
>>>> 
>>>> that should do it.
>>>> ========================
>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>> NUI Maynooth, Ireland
>>>> victor dot lazzarini at nuim dot ie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 25 May 2014, at 09:02, David Worrall  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps there is a new push on to deny dat to those who don't "toe the line".
>>>>> Two related experiences:
>>>>> - When we discovered on Friday pm that OSC interface was not in my csound6 build, I got the sources, came to the realization that the build instructions are opaque (read wrong), at least if you happen to be working on an esoteric OS like OSX. I went to register with their mailing list as was told my (Fraunhofer) email address was "insecure" so they wouldn't register me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - I went to get some material from sourceforge this mornig and was asked to accept choose whether to accept various types of cookies. When I denied the advertising ones, the site informed me the resouce was not available.
>>>>> 
>>>>> mmm. What a wonderful world…..
>>>>> 
>>>>> D.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 24.05.2014, at 20:59, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just to note that AOL and Yahoo users are not getting all csound list mail for "policy reasons"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For example yahoo say
>>>>>> Message not accepted for policy reasons.  See http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and AOL say
>>>>>> DMARC) This message failed DMARC Evaluation for an AOL Domain. For more information please visit http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2014/04/22/aol-mail-updates-dmarc-policy-to-reject/
>>>>>> drmrmathis@aol.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> such users may with to complain to AOL/Yahoo
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ==Admin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>     https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ______________________________________
>>>>> Prof. Dr. David Worrall
>>>>> Emerging Audio Research (EAR)
>>>>> Audio Department
>>>>> International Audio Laboratories Erlangen
>>>>> Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS
>>>>> Am Wolfsmantel 33
>>>>> 91058 Erlangen
>>>>> Telefon  +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 44
>>>>> Fax      +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99
>>>>> E-Mail: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de
>>>>> Internet: www.iis.fraunhofer.de 
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Adjunct Senior Research Fellow
>>>>> School of Music, Australian National University
>>>>> david.worrall@anu.edu.au
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> ______________________________________
>>> Prof. Dr. David Worrall
>>> Emerging Audio Research (EAR)
>>> Audio Department
>>> International Audio Laboratories Erlangen
>>> Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS
>>> Am Wolfsmantel 33
>>> 91058 Erlangen
>>> Telefon  +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 44
>>> Fax      +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99
>>> E-Mail: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de
>>> Internet: www.iis.fraunhofer.de 
>>> ---
>>> Adjunct Senior Research Fellow
>>> School of Music, Australian National University
>>> david.worrall@anu.edu.au
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Send bugs reports to
>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> ______________________________________
> Prof. Dr. David Worrall
> Emerging Audio Research (EAR)
> Audio Department
> International Audio Laboratories Erlangen
> Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS
> Am Wolfsmantel 33
> 91058 Erlangen
> Telefon  +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 44
> Fax      +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99
> E-Mail: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de
> Internet: www.iis.fraunhofer.de 
> ---
> Adjunct Senior Research Fellow
> School of Music, Australian National University
> david.worrall@anu.edu.au
> 
> 
> 
>