Hi all,

Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it here
> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>
> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>
> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>
> Here are the details:
>
> Version 0.4RC2
>
> New:
> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
> highlights it.
> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound code
> using View Code)
> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
> are not yet properly shown)
> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when Csound
> is not running
> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
> over it.
> -New option to set default csd file.
> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
> -New examples in Example menu
> -Changed Play to Run in menus
> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
> included example.
>
> Fixed:
> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are modified.
> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in QuteCsound
> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being stripped
> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
> display opcodes
> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
> -Fixed crash when saving while running
> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>
> Internal changes:
> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
> internal model of QuteCsound
>
> Enjoy!
> Andrés
>



-- 


Andrés

Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to be 
working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic! 
Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.

Ryan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andres Cabrera" 
To: ; 
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows


Hi all,

Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera  
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it here
> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>
> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>
> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>
> Here are the details:
>
> Version 0.4RC2
>
> New:
> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
> highlights it.
> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound code
> using View Code)
> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
> are not yet properly shown)
> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when Csound
> is not running
> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
> over it.
> -New option to set default csd file.
> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
> -New examples in Example menu
> -Changed Play to Run in menus
> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
> included example.
>
> Fixed:
> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are modified.
> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in 
> QuteCsound
> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being 
> stripped
> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
> display opcodes
> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
> -Fixed crash when saving while running
> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>
> Internal changes:
> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
> internal model of QuteCsound
>
> Enjoy!
> Andrés
>



-- 


Andrés


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csound" 

It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
the source in a hard drive-by accident...

Rory.




2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to be
> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>
> Ryan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera" 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it here
>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>
>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>
>> Here are the details:
>>
>> Version 0.4RC2
>>
>> New:
>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>> highlights it.
>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound code
>> using View Code)
>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>> are not yet properly shown)
>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when Csound
>> is not running
>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>> over it.
>> -New option to set default csd file.
>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>> -New examples in Example menu
>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>> included example.
>>
>> Fixed:
>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are modified.
>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>> QuteCsound
>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>> stripped
>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>> display opcodes
>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>
>> Internal changes:
>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>
>> Enjoy!
>> Andrés
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Andrés
>
>
> Send bugs reports to this list.
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
> csound"
>
>
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> csound"
>

Hi Rory,

I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
Csound, Qt and libsndfile.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>
> Rory.
>
>
>
>
> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to be
>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>> To: ; 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrés
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it here
>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>
>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>
>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>
>>> Here are the details:
>>>
>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>
>>> New:
>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>> highlights it.
>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound code
>>> using View Code)
>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when Csound
>>> is not running
>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>> over it.
>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>> included example.
>>>
>>> Fixed:
>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are modified.
>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>> QuteCsound
>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>> stripped
>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>> display opcodes
>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>
>>> Internal changes:
>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Andrés
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>>
>>
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>> csound"
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>
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-- 


Andrés

I may have to rebuild it using an earlier version as we use both
QuteCsound and Lettuce here. Can the everything the plugins folder
work with either lib? If not I can' really see how it's possible to
use both on windows. I might start another thread to query this..

2009/1/29 Andres Cabrera :
> Hi Rory,
>
> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to be
>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>>> To: ; 
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it here
>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>
>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>
>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>
>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>
>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>
>>>> New:
>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>> highlights it.
>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound code
>>>> using View Code)
>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when Csound
>>>> is not running
>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>> over it.
>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>> included example.
>>>>
>>>> Fixed:
>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are modified.
>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>> QuteCsound
>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>> stripped
>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>> display opcodes
>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>
>>>> Internal changes:
>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy!
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>
>
> --
>
>
> Andrés
>
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I just downloaded QT and the other source I need, if I have any
problem building I'll let you know. Cheers,

Rory.


2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>
> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths pretty
> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>
> -andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>
> Hi Rory,
>
> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to be
>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>> 
>>> To: ; 
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it here
>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>
>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>
>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>
>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>
>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>
>>>> New:
>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>> highlights it.
>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound code
>>>> using View Code)
>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when Csound
>>>> is not running
>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>> over it.
>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>> included example.
>>>>
>>>> Fixed:
>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>> modified.
>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>> QuteCsound
>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>> stripped
>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>> display opcodes
>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>
>>>> Internal changes:
>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy!
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>>>
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>
>
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>
>
> Andrés
>
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The only thing is that I didn't check out from cvs, I just downloaded
the latest zip? Has that been updated too?

2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>
> I'm using the qtcreator beta ide to put it all together for me in mingw and
> from a msvc perspective it is much easier than trying to understand it from
> an msys or cygwin point of view.  I'm very pleased with it.  I just now
> committed a much improved qmake project file setup for it so it should be
> alot easier to make than before, too.  Good timing.
>
> -andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rory Walsh" 
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:56:48 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>
> I just downloaded QT and the other source I need, if I have any
> problem building I'll let you know. Cheers,
>
> Rory.
>
>
> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>
>> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
>> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths pretty
>> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>>
>> -andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>
>> Hi Rory,
>>
>> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
>> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
>> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
>> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
>> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
>> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
>> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
>> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrés
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>>
>>> Rory.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to
>>>> be
>>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>>
>>>> Ryan
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>>> 
>>>> To: ; 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it here
>>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>
>>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>>
>>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>>
>>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>>
>>>>> New:
>>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>>> highlights it.
>>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound code
>>>>> using View Code)
>>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when Csound
>>>>> is not running
>>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>>> over it.
>>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>>> included example.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fixed:
>>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>>> modified.
>>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>>> stripped
>>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>>> display opcodes
>>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>>
>>>>> Internal changes:
>>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Andrés
>>
>>
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Yes svn has some improvements for building on windows. (you need
subversion to check out the sources as they are not in cvs)

Cheers,
Andrés

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> The only thing is that I didn't check out from cvs, I just downloaded
> the latest zip? Has that been updated too?
>
> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>
>> I'm using the qtcreator beta ide to put it all together for me in mingw and
>> from a msvc perspective it is much easier than trying to understand it from
>> an msys or cygwin point of view.  I'm very pleased with it.  I just now
>> committed a much improved qmake project file setup for it so it should be
>> alot easier to make than before, too.  Good timing.
>>
>> -andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:56:48 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>
>> I just downloaded QT and the other source I need, if I have any
>> problem building I'll let you know. Cheers,
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>
>>> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
>>> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths pretty
>>> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>>>
>>> -andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>
>>> Hi Rory,
>>>
>>> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
>>> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
>>> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
>>> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
>>> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
>>> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
>>> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
>>> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>>>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>>>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>>>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>>>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>>>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>>>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>>>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to
>>>>> be
>>>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: ; 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it here
>>>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New:
>>>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>>>> highlights it.
>>>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound code
>>>>>> using View Code)
>>>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when Csound
>>>>>> is not running
>>>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>>>> over it.
>>>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>>>> included example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fixed:
>>>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>>>> modified.
>>>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>>>> stripped
>>>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>>>> display opcodes
>>>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Internal changes:
>>>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>>>> csound"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>>
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-- 


Andrés

I have no particular desire to have 3 or 4 GUI front ends in the installers:

QuteCsound
WinSound
Csound5Gui
CsoundVstShell (in the VST version installer)

In fact I would prefer to have just one. If there are issues they
should be fixed.

Regards,
Mike

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Andy Fillebrown
 wrote:
>
> http://qutecsound.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/qutecsound/
> has a "Download GNU tarball" link for the current revision.
>
> Cheers,
> -andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rory Walsh" 
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:25:02 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for
> Windows
>
> The only thing is that I didn't check out from cvs, I just downloaded
> the latest zip? Has that been updated too?
>
> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>
>> I'm using the qtcreator beta ide to put it all together for me in mingw
>> and
>> from a msvc perspective it is much easier than trying to understand it
>> from
>> an msys or cygwin point of view.  I'm very pleased with it.  I just now
>> committed a much improved qmake project file setup for it so it should be
>> alot easier to make than before, too.  Good timing.
>>
>> -andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:56:48 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for
>> Windows
>>
>> I just downloaded QT and the other source I need, if I have any
>> problem building I'll let you know. Cheers,
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>
>>> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
>>> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths pretty
>>> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>>>
>>> -andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>
>>> Hi Rory,
>>>
>>> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
>>> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
>>> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
>>> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
>>> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
>>> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
>>> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
>>> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>>>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>>>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>>>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>>>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>>>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>>>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>>>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to
>>>>> be
>>>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: ; 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it here
>>>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New:
>>>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>>>> highlights it.
>>>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound code
>>>>>> using View Code)
>>>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when Csound
>>>>>> is not running
>>>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>>>> over it.
>>>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>>>> included example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fixed:
>>>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>>>> modified.
>>>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>>>> stripped
>>>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>>>> display opcodes
>>>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Internal changes:
>>>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>>
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Irreducible Productions
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

Hi,

QuteCsound is not light, but it can run Csound in an external shell,
which means it can run Csound as fast as it can run in the command
line (QuteCsound will be taking a minimum amount of resources in that
case since it's not doing any redrawing, calculations or bus data
communications).

However keeping another frontend like winsound or csound5gui, might
still be a good idea.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Andy Fillebrown
 wrote:
>
> I'd like to see one good csound ide/editor (qutecsound) and one good
> lightweight front end for the command line.  Removing the lightweight
> front-ends and forcing people to use qutecsound as a heavy front-end may be
> a bit of overkill, although making a new lightweight front-end out of the
> qutecsound code would be cool.
>
> just my 2 cents.
> -andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Gogins" 
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:00:21 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound
>  04.RC2 for Windows
>
> I have no particular desire to have 3 or 4 GUI front ends in the installers:
>
> QuteCsound
> WinSound
> Csound5Gui
> CsoundVstShell (in the VST version installer)
>
> In fact I would prefer to have just one. If there are issues they
> should be fixed.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Andy Fillebrown
>  wrote:
>>
>> http://qutecsound.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/qutecsound/
>> has a "Download GNU tarball" link for the current revision.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:25:02 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2
>> for
>> Windows
>>
>> The only thing is that I didn't check out from cvs, I just downloaded
>> the latest zip? Has that been updated too?
>>
>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>
>>> I'm using the qtcreator beta ide to put it all together for me in mingw
>>> and
>>> from a msvc perspective it is much easier than trying to understand it
>>> from
>>> an msys or cygwin point of view.  I'm very pleased with it.  I just now
>>> committed a much improved qmake project file setup for it so it should be
>>> alot easier to make than before, too.  Good timing.
>>>
>>> -andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:56:48 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for
>>> Windows
>>>
>>> I just downloaded QT and the other source I need, if I have any
>>> problem building I'll let you know. Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rory.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>>
>>>> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
>>>> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths
>>>> pretty
>>>> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>>>>
>>>> -andy.f
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>
>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>
>>>> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
>>>> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
>>>> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
>>>> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
>>>> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
>>>> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
>>>> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
>>>> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>>>>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>>>>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>>>>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>>>>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>>>>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>>>>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>>>>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>>>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>>>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To: ;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>>>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>>>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it
>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> New:
>>>>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>>>>> highlights it.
>>>>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound
>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>> using View Code)
>>>>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when
>>>>>>> Csound
>>>>>>> is not running
>>>>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>>>>> over it.
>>>>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>>>>> included example.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fixed:
>>>>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>>>>> modified.
>>>>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>>>>> stripped
>>>>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>>>>> display opcodes
>>>>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Internal changes:
>>>>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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>
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-- 


Andrés

What exactly is a lightweight front end?

Regards,
Mike

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> QuteCsound is not light, but it can run Csound in an external shell,
> which means it can run Csound as fast as it can run in the command
> line (QuteCsound will be taking a minimum amount of resources in that
> case since it's not doing any redrawing, calculations or bus data
> communications).
>
> However keeping another frontend like winsound or csound5gui, might
> still be a good idea.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Andy Fillebrown
>  wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to see one good csound ide/editor (qutecsound) and one good
>> lightweight front end for the command line.  Removing the lightweight
>> front-ends and forcing people to use qutecsound as a heavy front-end may be
>> a bit of overkill, although making a new lightweight front-end out of the
>> qutecsound code would be cool.
>>
>> just my 2 cents.
>> -andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Gogins" 
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:00:21 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound
>>  04.RC2 for Windows
>>
>> I have no particular desire to have 3 or 4 GUI front ends in the installers:
>>
>> QuteCsound
>> WinSound
>> Csound5Gui
>> CsoundVstShell (in the VST version installer)
>>
>> In fact I would prefer to have just one. If there are issues they
>> should be fixed.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Andy Fillebrown
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> http://qutecsound.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/qutecsound/
>>> has a "Download GNU tarball" link for the current revision.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:25:02 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2
>>> for
>>> Windows
>>>
>>> The only thing is that I didn't check out from cvs, I just downloaded
>>> the latest zip? Has that been updated too?
>>>
>>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>>
>>>> I'm using the qtcreator beta ide to put it all together for me in mingw
>>>> and
>>>> from a msvc perspective it is much easier than trying to understand it
>>>> from
>>>> an msys or cygwin point of view.  I'm very pleased with it.  I just now
>>>> committed a much improved qmake project file setup for it so it should be
>>>> alot easier to make than before, too.  Good timing.
>>>>
>>>> -andy.f
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:56:48 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for
>>>> Windows
>>>>
>>>> I just downloaded QT and the other source I need, if I have any
>>>> problem building I'll let you know. Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>>>
>>>>> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
>>>>> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths
>>>>> pretty
>>>>> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>>>>>
>>>>> -andy.f
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>
>>>>> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
>>>>> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
>>>>> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
>>>>> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
>>>>> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
>>>>> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
>>>>> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
>>>>> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>>>>>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>>>>>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>>>>>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>>>>>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>>>>>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>>>>>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>>>>>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>>>>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>>>>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To: ;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>>>>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>>>>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it
>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>>>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>>>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>>>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>>>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>>>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>>>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>>>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> New:
>>>>>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>>>>>> highlights it.
>>>>>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>>>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>>>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound
>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>> using View Code)
>>>>>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>>>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>>>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>>>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when
>>>>>>>> Csound
>>>>>>>> is not running
>>>>>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>>>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>>>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>>>>>> over it.
>>>>>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>>>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>>>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>>>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>>>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>>>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>>>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>>>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>>>>>> included example.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fixed:
>>>>>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>>>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>>>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>>>>>> modified.
>>>>>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>>>>>> stripped
>>>>>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>>>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>>>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>>>>>> display opcodes
>>>>>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>>>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>>>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Internal changes:
>>>>>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>>>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>>>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>>>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Gogins
>> Irreducible Productions
>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>
>>
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>
>
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>
> Andrés
>
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Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

I'd say it's one which has minor interaction with Csound, so using it
is practically equivalent to running from the command line in terms of
performance.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> What exactly is a lightweight front end?
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> QuteCsound is not light, but it can run Csound in an external shell,
>> which means it can run Csound as fast as it can run in the command
>> line (QuteCsound will be taking a minimum amount of resources in that
>> case since it's not doing any redrawing, calculations or bus data
>> communications).
>>
>> However keeping another frontend like winsound or csound5gui, might
>> still be a good idea.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrés
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Andy Fillebrown
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd like to see one good csound ide/editor (qutecsound) and one good
>>> lightweight front end for the command line.  Removing the lightweight
>>> front-ends and forcing people to use qutecsound as a heavy front-end may be
>>> a bit of overkill, although making a new lightweight front-end out of the
>>> qutecsound code would be cool.
>>>
>>> just my 2 cents.
>>> -andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michael Gogins" 
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:00:21 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound
>>>  04.RC2 for Windows
>>>
>>> I have no particular desire to have 3 or 4 GUI front ends in the installers:
>>>
>>> QuteCsound
>>> WinSound
>>> Csound5Gui
>>> CsoundVstShell (in the VST version installer)
>>>
>>> In fact I would prefer to have just one. If there are issues they
>>> should be fixed.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Andy Fillebrown
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://qutecsound.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/qutecsound/
>>>> has a "Download GNU tarball" link for the current revision.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -andy.f
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:25:02 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2
>>>> for
>>>> Windows
>>>>
>>>> The only thing is that I didn't check out from cvs, I just downloaded
>>>> the latest zip? Has that been updated too?
>>>>
>>>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using the qtcreator beta ide to put it all together for me in mingw
>>>>> and
>>>>> from a msvc perspective it is much easier than trying to understand it
>>>>> from
>>>>> an msys or cygwin point of view.  I'm very pleased with it.  I just now
>>>>> committed a much improved qmake project file setup for it so it should be
>>>>> alot easier to make than before, too.  Good timing.
>>>>>
>>>>> -andy.f
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:56:48 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for
>>>>> Windows
>>>>>
>>>>> I just downloaded QT and the other source I need, if I have any
>>>>> problem building I'll let you know. Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
>>>>>> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths
>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -andy.f
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
>>>>>> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
>>>>>> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
>>>>>> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
>>>>>> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
>>>>>> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
>>>>>> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
>>>>>> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>>>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>>>>>>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>>>>>>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>>>>>>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>>>>>>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>>>>>>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>>>>>>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>>>>>>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>>>>>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>>>>>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To: ;
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>>>>>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>>>>>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it
>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>>>>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>>>>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>>>>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>>>>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>>>>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>>>>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>>>>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> New:
>>>>>>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>>>>>>> highlights it.
>>>>>>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>>>>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>>>>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound
>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>> using View Code)
>>>>>>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>>>>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>>>>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>>>>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when
>>>>>>>>> Csound
>>>>>>>>> is not running
>>>>>>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>>>>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>>>>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>>>>>>> over it.
>>>>>>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>>>>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>>>>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>>>>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>>>>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>>>>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>>>>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>>>>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>>>>>>> included example.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fixed:
>>>>>>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>>>>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>>>>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>>>>>>> modified.
>>>>>>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>>>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>>>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>>>>>>> stripped
>>>>>>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>>>>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>>>>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>>>>>>> display opcodes
>>>>>>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>>>>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>>>>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Internal changes:
>>>>>>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>>>>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>>>>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>>>>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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Andrés

But all of the existing front ends can be used in this way. What's the
difference?

Regards,
Mike

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> I'd say it's one which has minor interaction with Csound, so using it
> is practically equivalent to running from the command line in terms of
> performance.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Michael Gogins
>  wrote:
>> What exactly is a lightweight front end?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> QuteCsound is not light, but it can run Csound in an external shell,
>>> which means it can run Csound as fast as it can run in the command
>>> line (QuteCsound will be taking a minimum amount of resources in that
>>> case since it's not doing any redrawing, calculations or bus data
>>> communications).
>>>
>>> However keeping another frontend like winsound or csound5gui, might
>>> still be a good idea.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Andy Fillebrown
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to see one good csound ide/editor (qutecsound) and one good
>>>> lightweight front end for the command line.  Removing the lightweight
>>>> front-ends and forcing people to use qutecsound as a heavy front-end may be
>>>> a bit of overkill, although making a new lightweight front-end out of the
>>>> qutecsound code would be cool.
>>>>
>>>> just my 2 cents.
>>>> -andy.f
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Michael Gogins" 
>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:00:21 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound
>>>>  04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>
>>>> I have no particular desire to have 3 or 4 GUI front ends in the installers:
>>>>
>>>> QuteCsound
>>>> WinSound
>>>> Csound5Gui
>>>> CsoundVstShell (in the VST version installer)
>>>>
>>>> In fact I would prefer to have just one. If there are issues they
>>>> should be fixed.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Andy Fillebrown
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://qutecsound.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/qutecsound/
>>>>> has a "Download GNU tarball" link for the current revision.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -andy.f
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:25:02 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2
>>>>> for
>>>>> Windows
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing is that I didn't check out from cvs, I just downloaded
>>>>> the latest zip? Has that been updated too?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using the qtcreator beta ide to put it all together for me in mingw
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> from a msvc perspective it is much easier than trying to understand it
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> an msys or cygwin point of view.  I'm very pleased with it.  I just now
>>>>>> committed a much improved qmake project file setup for it so it should be
>>>>>> alot easier to make than before, too.  Good timing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -andy.f
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:56:48 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just downloaded QT and the other source I need, if I have any
>>>>>> problem building I'll let you know. Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
>>>>>>> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths
>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -andy.f
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
>>>>>>> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
>>>>>>> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
>>>>>>> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
>>>>>>> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
>>>>>>> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
>>>>>>> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
>>>>>>> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>>>>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>>>>>>>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>>>>>>>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>>>>>>>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>>>>>>>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>>>>>>>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>>>>>>>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>>>>>>>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>>>>>>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>>>>>>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> To: ;
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>>>>>>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>>>>>>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it
>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>>>>>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>>>>>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>>>>>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>>>>>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>>>>>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>>>>>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>>>>>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> New:
>>>>>>>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>>>>>>>> highlights it.
>>>>>>>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>>>>>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>>>>>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound
>>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>> using View Code)
>>>>>>>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>>>>>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>>>>>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>>>>>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when
>>>>>>>>>> Csound
>>>>>>>>>> is not running
>>>>>>>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>>>>>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>>>>>>>> over it.
>>>>>>>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>>>>>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>>>>>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>>>>>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>>>>>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>>>>>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>>>>>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>>>>>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>>>>>>>> included example.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fixed:
>>>>>>>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>>>>>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>>>>>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>>>>>>>> modified.
>>>>>>>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>>>>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>>>>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>>>>>>>> stripped
>>>>>>>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>>>>>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>>>>>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>>>>>>>> display opcodes
>>>>>>>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>>>>>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>>>>>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Internal changes:
>>>>>>>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>>>>>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>>>>>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>>>>>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Irreducible Productions
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>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> Andrés
>>>
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Irreducible Productions
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

Yes, all frontends that are currently included in the installer cwould
be what I call light. But QuteCsound is not.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> But all of the existing front ends can be used in this way. What's the
> difference?
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
>> I'd say it's one which has minor interaction with Csound, so using it
>> is practically equivalent to running from the command line in terms of
>> performance.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrés
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Michael Gogins
>>  wrote:
>>> What exactly is a lightweight front end?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> QuteCsound is not light, but it can run Csound in an external shell,
>>>> which means it can run Csound as fast as it can run in the command
>>>> line (QuteCsound will be taking a minimum amount of resources in that
>>>> case since it's not doing any redrawing, calculations or bus data
>>>> communications).
>>>>
>>>> However keeping another frontend like winsound or csound5gui, might
>>>> still be a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Andy Fillebrown
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to see one good csound ide/editor (qutecsound) and one good
>>>>> lightweight front end for the command line.  Removing the lightweight
>>>>> front-ends and forcing people to use qutecsound as a heavy front-end may be
>>>>> a bit of overkill, although making a new lightweight front-end out of the
>>>>> qutecsound code would be cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> just my 2 cents.
>>>>> -andy.f
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Michael Gogins" 
>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:00:21 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound
>>>>>  04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no particular desire to have 3 or 4 GUI front ends in the installers:
>>>>>
>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>> WinSound
>>>>> Csound5Gui
>>>>> CsoundVstShell (in the VST version installer)
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact I would prefer to have just one. If there are issues they
>>>>> should be fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Andy Fillebrown
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://qutecsound.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/qutecsound/
>>>>>> has a "Download GNU tarball" link for the current revision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -andy.f
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:25:02 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only thing is that I didn't check out from cvs, I just downloaded
>>>>>> the latest zip? Has that been updated too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm using the qtcreator beta ide to put it all together for me in mingw
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> from a msvc perspective it is much easier than trying to understand it
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> an msys or cygwin point of view.  I'm very pleased with it.  I just now
>>>>>>> committed a much improved qmake project file setup for it so it should be
>>>>>>> alot easier to make than before, too.  Good timing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -andy.f
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:56:48 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for
>>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just downloaded QT and the other source I need, if I have any
>>>>>>> problem building I'll let you know. Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
>>>>>>>> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths
>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -andy.f
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>>>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
>>>>>>>> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
>>>>>>>> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
>>>>>>>> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
>>>>>>>> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
>>>>>>>> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
>>>>>>>> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
>>>>>>>> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>>>>>>>>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>>>>>>>>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>>>>>>>>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>>>>>>>>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>>>>>>>>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>>>>>>>>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>>>>>>>>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>>>>>>>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> To: ;
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>>>>>>>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>>>>>>>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it
>>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>>>>>>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>>>>>>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>>>>>>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>>>>>>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>>>>>>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>>>>>>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> New:
>>>>>>>>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>>>>>>>>> highlights it.
>>>>>>>>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>>>>>>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>>>>>>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound
>>>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>>> using View Code)
>>>>>>>>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>>>>>>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>>>>>>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>>>>>>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when
>>>>>>>>>>> Csound
>>>>>>>>>>> is not running
>>>>>>>>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>>>>>>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>>>>>>>>> over it.
>>>>>>>>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>>>>>>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>>>>>>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>>>>>>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>>>>>>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>>>>>>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>>>>>>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>>>>>>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>>>>>>>>> included example.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Fixed:
>>>>>>>>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>>>>>>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>>>>>>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>>>>>>>>> modified.
>>>>>>>>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>>>>>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>>>>>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>>>>>>>>> stripped
>>>>>>>>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>>>>>>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>>>>>>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>>>>>>>>> display opcodes
>>>>>>>>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>>>>>>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>>>>>>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Internal changes:
>>>>>>>>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>>>>>>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>>>>>>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>>>>>>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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Andrés

Thanks for your comments, and I think your point is good.

One solution might be a 'streamlined mode' and an 'expert mode' for
QuteCsound. I will look into this.

Regards,
Mike

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Andy Fillebrown
 wrote:
>
> To me, a "lightweight" front end is a simple gui for the command line and
> nothing else, and it's more about the weight of the learning curve than the
> size of the package.
>
> If I was new user investigating csound to see what it was about and I was
> savvy enough to "get it" before I got frustrated and quit, then I'd expect
> it to have a simple gui for the command line.  If qutecsound was presented
> to me as the sole front end then I would probably start looking for
> something less complicated (assuming I was going to stick with csound), not
> because I couldn't get it to do what I want eventually, but because it's
> introduces me to way more than I'd want to deal with at first.  Having a
> step between learning how to author the basic csound elements and becoming
> an expert at it is not only useful, but i.m.o. necessary, especially for the
> autodydactic types like myself.  Making the apps involved in that step look
> consistent would be great, too, so I think it'd be good to have a new front
> end that uses the same gui toolkit and icons as qutecsound so when the time
> comes for a new user to break out of novice-hood, they'll already be
> familiar with the look and feel of qutecsound and won't have to deal with
> learning a whole new program from the ground up.
>
> As far as the size issues goes, with the Qt libraries going LGPL they may
> start being included in every new OS down the road which would make it
> unnecessary to keep including them in the Csound installers... and that's
> not even considering the mobile device market, which is the main reason
> Nokia is making Qt LGPL compatible in the first place, from what I
> understand.  So I'm not overly concerned about how light or heavy the size
> of the csound installation package would be if qutecsound was added.  To me
> it's more of how light or heavy a new user would consider the learning curve
> when deciding on which synthesis package to get involved with.
>
> Anyway, my apologies if this falls under the rambling category or if I'm way
> off base since I'm not a csound developer, but I think it would be a mistake
> to completely replace all the current front ends with only qutecsound and I
> feel strongly enough about it that I'll start coding a new "qutecsound lite"
> if need be.
>
> Cheers,
> -andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Gogins" 
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:24:08 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann]
>  QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>
> What exactly is a lightweight front end?
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Andres Cabrera 
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> QuteCsound is not light, but it can run Csound in an external shell,
>> which means it can run Csound as fast as it can run in the command
>> line (QuteCsound will be taking a minimum amount of resources in that
>> case since it's not doing any redrawing, calculations or bus data
>> communications).
>>
>> However keeping another frontend like winsound or csound5gui, might
>> still be a good idea.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrés
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Andy Fillebrown
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd like to see one good csound ide/editor (qutecsound) and one good
>>> lightweight front end for the command line.  Removing the lightweight
>>> front-ends and forcing people to use qutecsound as a heavy front-end may
>>> be
>>> a bit of overkill, although making a new lightweight front-end out of the
>>> qutecsound code would be cool.
>>>
>>> just my 2 cents.
>>> -andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michael Gogins" 
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:00:21 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound
>>>  04.RC2 for Windows
>>>
>>> I have no particular desire to have 3 or 4 GUI front ends in the
>>> installers:
>>>
>>> QuteCsound
>>> WinSound
>>> Csound5Gui
>>> CsoundVstShell (in the VST version installer)
>>>
>>> In fact I would prefer to have just one. If there are issues they
>>> should be fixed.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Andy Fillebrown
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://qutecsound.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/qutecsound/
>>>> has a "Download GNU tarball" link for the current revision.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -andy.f
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:25:02 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2
>>>> for
>>>> Windows
>>>>
>>>> The only thing is that I didn't check out from cvs, I just downloaded
>>>> the latest zip? Has that been updated too?
>>>>
>>>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using the qtcreator beta ide to put it all together for me in mingw
>>>>> and
>>>>> from a msvc perspective it is much easier than trying to understand it
>>>>> from
>>>>> an msys or cygwin point of view.  I'm very pleased with it.  I just now
>>>>> committed a much improved qmake project file setup for it so it should
>>>>> be
>>>>> alot easier to make than before, too.  Good timing.
>>>>>
>>>>> -andy.f
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:56:48 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for
>>>>> Windows
>>>>>
>>>>> I just downloaded QT and the other source I need, if I have any
>>>>> problem building I'll let you know. Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
>>>>>> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths
>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -andy.f
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500)
>>>>>> America/New_York
>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
>>>>>> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
>>>>>> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
>>>>>> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
>>>>>> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
>>>>>> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
>>>>>> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
>>>>>> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>>>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>>>>>>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>>>>>>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>>>>>>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>>>>>>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>>>>>>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>>>>>>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>>>>>>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>>>>>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home
>>>>>>>> Basic!
>>>>>>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To: ;
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>>>>>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>>>>>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it
>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>>>>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>>>>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>>>>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>>>>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>>>>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from
>>>>>>>>> graphviz.org.
>>>>>>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to
>>>>>>>>> record
>>>>>>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> New:
>>>>>>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> highlights it.
>>>>>>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>>>>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound
>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>> using View Code)
>>>>>>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to
>>>>>>>>> chnget/chnset
>>>>>>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and
>>>>>>>>> labels
>>>>>>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>>>>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when
>>>>>>>>> Csound
>>>>>>>>> is not running
>>>>>>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>>>>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>>>>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and
>>>>>>>>> holding
>>>>>>>>> over it.
>>>>>>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>>>>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>>>>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>>>>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>>>>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>>>>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>>>>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>>>>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>>>>>>> included example.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fixed:
>>>>>>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to
>>>>>>>>> prevent
>>>>>>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>>>>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>>>>>>> modified.
>>>>>>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>>>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>>>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were
>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>> stripped
>>>>>>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>>>>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>>>>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>>>>>>> display opcodes
>>>>>>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>>>>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>>>>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Internal changes:
>>>>>>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>>>>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>>>>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Hi Andy, I respectfully disagree with your sentiments about QuteCsound
or any other IDE for Csound putting new users off. I'd like to put
this out to the list but I think that an integrated Csound
editor/compiler is just what new users need. Compare the steps
involved in working with an IDE as apposed to one of the command line
interfaces. In an IDE you simple write your code and hit play. Job
done. With the command line interfaces you have to open your text
editor, write a new file from scratch including all the csd tags. Save
the file. Open the command line interfaces. Open the file you wish to
compile. Then you can compile it. On top of that the command line
interfaces don't feature things like case sensitive help and
integrated manuals. Many of the IDEs let users select their audio
devices from a drop down menu so they don't have to run things like
-odac99 and the likes. Lettuce and QuteCsound will highlight erroneous
lines in the code if there are errors. I can't see how these features
would put off new users. In my own opinion I think that the lack of an
integrated Csound editor has put off new users for years. The irony is
that I don't generally like IDEs! I prefer to work from the command
line but students today don't even know what the command line is and
with restricted class times it's just not plausible to spend two week
teaching command line practices when by two weeks they should already
be compiling and building their first instruments. As for lightweight,
I don't see how QuteCsound doesn't qualify as light weight. Surely it
depends on how the user uses it. As for those used to csound5gui,
surely if they got used to that they will get used to QuteCsound in a
few second flat? I'm not even sure we should continue with those
command line interfaces.

With regards to Qt, it's quite a monster! I've been compiling it now
for 2 hours? Can that be right? It's also filling my hard disk up
really fast. The download is 130 or so MBs and since I started to
compile it's taking up 3GBs of space on my hard drive. It better
finish soon or I won't have the space to house it!


2009/1/30 Andy Fillebrown :
>
> To me, a "lightweight" front end is a simple gui for the command line and
> nothing else, and it's more about the weight of the learning curve than the
> size of the package.
>

I'm definitely going to do that Andy, thanks. I just went out for a
bit and came back to find my hard drive full!

2009/1/30 Andy Fillebrown :
>
> Hi Rory,
>
> Good points.  It may be that I'm applying my own experiences with teaching
> myself csound last year too broadly.
>
> As for compiling Qt... it's definitely a beast, which is why I recommend
> downloading qtcreator and building qt based apps with that, instead.  No
> compiling of qt needed that way (prebuilt debug and release binaries are
> included), no need to figure out how to use the moc, rcc, and uic compilers
> in msvc, and no need to figure out ms's overly-complicated manifest scheme
> for distributions.  The only frustration I have with qtcreator on windows is
> that the debugger (gdb) is not as good as msvc's.  It's workable and the
> integration is good, but it's much slower than I'm used to and I've had to
> change alot of my bad development habits because of it, though that's
> probably a good thing in the long run. =)
>
> Regards,
> -andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rory Walsh" 
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:13:28 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
> [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>
> Hi Andy, I respectfully disagree with your sentiments about QuteCsound
> or any other IDE for Csound putting new users off. I'd like to put
> this out to the list but I think that an integrated Csound
> editor/compiler is just what new users need. Compare the steps
> involved in working with an IDE as apposed to one of the command line
> interfaces. In an IDE you simple write your code and hit play. Job
> done. With the command line interfaces you have to open your text
> editor, write a new file from scratch including all the csd tags. Save
> the file. Open the command line interfaces. Open the file you wish to
> compile. Then you can compile it. On top of that the command line
> interfaces don't feature things like case sensitive help and
> integrated manuals. Many of the IDEs let users select their audio
> devices from a drop down menu so they don't have to run things like
> -odac99 and the likes. Lettuce and QuteCsound will highlight erroneous
> lines in the code if there are errors. I can't see how these features
> would put off new users. In my own opinion I think that the lack of an
> integrated Csound editor has put off new users for years. The irony is
> that I don't generally like IDEs! I prefer to work from the command
> line but students today don't even know what the command line is and
> with restricted class times it's just not plausible to spend two week
> teaching command line practices when by two weeks they should already
> be compiling and building their first instruments. As for lightweight,
> I don't see how QuteCsound doesn't qualify as light weight. Surely it
> depends on how the user uses it. As for those used to csound5gui,
> surely if they got used to that they will get used to QuteCsound in a
> few second flat? I'm not even sure we should continue with those
> command line interfaces.
>
> With regards to Qt, it's quite a monster! I've been compiling it now
> for 2 hours? Can that be right? It's also filling my hard disk up
> really fast. The download is 130 or so MBs and since I started to
> compile it's taking up 3GBs of space on my hard drive. It better
> finish soon or I won't have the space to house it!
>
>
> 2009/1/30 Andy Fillebrown :
>>
>> To me, a "lightweight" front end is a simple gui for the command line and
>> nothing else, and it's more about the weight of the learning curve than
>> the
>> size of the package.
>>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to this list.
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
> csound"
>

=) I also gave up once on building Qt... It's huge. You should get the
prebuilt binary packages (which are actually somewhat hidden in the
bottom of the download pages, so everyone thinks they have to build QT
themselves...), or do what Andy suggests which is probably the best
route on Windows.

Cheers.
Andrés

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> Hi Andy, I respectfully disagree with your sentiments about QuteCsound
> or any other IDE for Csound putting new users off. I'd like to put
> this out to the list but I think that an integrated Csound
> editor/compiler is just what new users need. Compare the steps
> involved in working with an IDE as apposed to one of the command line
> interfaces. In an IDE you simple write your code and hit play. Job
> done. With the command line interfaces you have to open your text
> editor, write a new file from scratch including all the csd tags. Save
> the file. Open the command line interfaces. Open the file you wish to
> compile. Then you can compile it. On top of that the command line
> interfaces don't feature things like case sensitive help and
> integrated manuals. Many of the IDEs let users select their audio
> devices from a drop down menu so they don't have to run things like
> -odac99 and the likes. Lettuce and QuteCsound will highlight erroneous
> lines in the code if there are errors. I can't see how these features
> would put off new users. In my own opinion I think that the lack of an
> integrated Csound editor has put off new users for years. The irony is
> that I don't generally like IDEs! I prefer to work from the command
> line but students today don't even know what the command line is and
> with restricted class times it's just not plausible to spend two week
> teaching command line practices when by two weeks they should already
> be compiling and building their first instruments. As for lightweight,
> I don't see how QuteCsound doesn't qualify as light weight. Surely it
> depends on how the user uses it. As for those used to csound5gui,
> surely if they got used to that they will get used to QuteCsound in a
> few second flat? I'm not even sure we should continue with those
> command line interfaces.
>
> With regards to Qt, it's quite a monster! I've been compiling it now
> for 2 hours? Can that be right? It's also filling my hard disk up
> really fast. The download is 130 or so MBs and since I started to
> compile it's taking up 3GBs of space on my hard drive. It better
> finish soon or I won't have the space to house it!
>
>
> 2009/1/30 Andy Fillebrown :
>>
>> To me, a "lightweight" front end is a simple gui for the command line and
>> nothing else, and it's more about the weight of the learning curve than the
>> size of the package.
>>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to this list.
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>



-- 


Andrés

Will do. I'll let you know how I get on.

Rory.


2009/1/30 Andres Cabrera :
> =) I also gave up once on building Qt... It's huge. You should get the
> prebuilt binary packages (which are actually somewhat hidden in the
> bottom of the download pages, so everyone thinks they have to build QT
> themselves...), or do what Andy suggests which is probably the best
> route on Windows.
>
> Cheers.
> Andrés
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> Hi Andy, I respectfully disagree with your sentiments about QuteCsound
>> or any other IDE for Csound putting new users off. I'd like to put
>> this out to the list but I think that an integrated Csound
>> editor/compiler is just what new users need. Compare the steps
>> involved in working with an IDE as apposed to one of the command line
>> interfaces. In an IDE you simple write your code and hit play. Job
>> done. With the command line interfaces you have to open your text
>> editor, write a new file from scratch including all the csd tags. Save
>> the file. Open the command line interfaces. Open the file you wish to
>> compile. Then you can compile it. On top of that the command line
>> interfaces don't feature things like case sensitive help and
>> integrated manuals. Many of the IDEs let users select their audio
>> devices from a drop down menu so they don't have to run things like
>> -odac99 and the likes. Lettuce and QuteCsound will highlight erroneous
>> lines in the code if there are errors. I can't see how these features
>> would put off new users. In my own opinion I think that the lack of an
>> integrated Csound editor has put off new users for years. The irony is
>> that I don't generally like IDEs! I prefer to work from the command
>> line but students today don't even know what the command line is and
>> with restricted class times it's just not plausible to spend two week
>> teaching command line practices when by two weeks they should already
>> be compiling and building their first instruments. As for lightweight,
>> I don't see how QuteCsound doesn't qualify as light weight. Surely it
>> depends on how the user uses it. As for those used to csound5gui,
>> surely if they got used to that they will get used to QuteCsound in a
>> few second flat? I'm not even sure we should continue with those
>> command line interfaces.
>>
>> With regards to Qt, it's quite a monster! I've been compiling it now
>> for 2 hours? Can that be right? It's also filling my hard disk up
>> really fast. The download is 130 or so MBs and since I started to
>> compile it's taking up 3GBs of space on my hard drive. It better
>> finish soon or I won't have the space to house it!
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/30 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>
>>> To me, a "lightweight" front end is a simple gui for the command line and
>>> nothing else, and it's more about the weight of the learning curve than the
>>> size of the package.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Andrés
>
>
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FWIW I think things like TclCsound and the cswish shell should be
included even if there is a need to 'prune' some of the currently
pacakged GUI frontends. Modularity should be important and I really
with there would be something like Cabel either in Qt or wxPython.

TclCsound and the python extensions are important to keep Csound
competitive with things like GNU Octave or MATLAB..



-David

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> I have no particular desire to have 3 or 4 GUI front ends in the installers:
>
> QuteCsound
> WinSound
> Csound5Gui
> CsoundVstShell (in the VST version installer)
>
> In fact I would prefer to have just one. If there are issues they
> should be fixed.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Andy Fillebrown
>  wrote:
>>
>> http://qutecsound.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/qutecsound/
>> has a "Download GNU tarball" link for the current revision.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:25:02 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for
>> Windows
>>
>> The only thing is that I didn't check out from cvs, I just downloaded
>> the latest zip? Has that been updated too?
>>
>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>
>>> I'm using the qtcreator beta ide to put it all together for me in mingw
>>> and
>>> from a msvc perspective it is much easier than trying to understand it
>>> from
>>> an msys or cygwin point of view.  I'm very pleased with it.  I just now
>>> committed a much improved qmake project file setup for it so it should be
>>> alot easier to make than before, too.  Good timing.
>>>
>>> -andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:56:48 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for
>>> Windows
>>>
>>> I just downloaded QT and the other source I need, if I have any
>>> problem building I'll let you know. Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rory.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>>
>>>> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
>>>> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths pretty
>>>> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>>>>
>>>> -andy.f
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>
>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>
>>>> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
>>>> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
>>>> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
>>>> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
>>>> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
>>>> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
>>>> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
>>>> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>>>>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>>>>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>>>>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>>>>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>>>>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>>>>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>>>>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>>>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>>>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To: ; 
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>>>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>>>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it here
>>>>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> New:
>>>>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>>>>> highlights it.
>>>>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound code
>>>>>>> using View Code)
>>>>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when Csound
>>>>>>> is not running
>>>>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>>>>> over it.
>>>>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>>>>> included example.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fixed:
>>>>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>>>>> modified.
>>>>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>>>>> stripped
>>>>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>>>>> display opcodes
>>>>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Internal changes:
>>>>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> csound"
>>>
>>>
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I just installed QTcreator and tried building QuteCsound but it fails:

Running build steps for project src...
Starting: C:/Qt/QtCreator/qt/bin/qmake.exe
D:/MyDocuments/SourceCode/quteCsound/trunk/qutecsound/src/src.pro
-spec win32-g++ -r CONFIG+=debug_and_release
Project MESSAGE: Generating QuteCsound Makefile for double precision
(64-bit) Csound...
Project MESSAGE: NSIS installer compiler was not found in the
specified directory.
Project MESSAGE: ...skipping installer compilation.
Exited with code 0.
Starting: C:/Qt/QtCreator/mingw/bin/mingw32-make.exe debug -w
mingw32-make: Entering directory
`D:/MyDocuments/SourceCode/quteCsound/trunk/qutecsound/src'
C:/Qt/QtCreator/mingw/bin/mingw32-make -f Makefile.Debug
mingw32-make: Leaving directory
`D:/MyDocuments/SourceCode/quteCsound/trunk/qutecsound/src'
process_begin: CreateProcess(C:\Qt\QtCreator\mingw\bin\mingw32-make.exe,
C:/Qt/QtCreator/mingw/bin/mingw32-make -f Makefile.Debug, ...) failed.
make (e=5): Access is denied.
mingw32-make: *** [debug] Error 5
Exited with code 2.
Error while building project src
When executing build step 'Make'

Any ideas? I can't see why access would be denied?

2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>
> I'm using the qtcreator beta ide to put it all together for me in mingw and
> from a msvc perspective it is much easier than trying to understand it from
> an msys or cygwin point of view.  I'm very pleased with it.  I just now
> committed a much improved qmake project file setup for it so it should be
> alot easier to make than before, too.  Good timing.
>
> -andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rory Walsh" 
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:56:48 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>
> I just downloaded QT and the other source I need, if I have any
> problem building I'll let you know. Cheers,
>
> Rory.
>
>
> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>
>> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
>> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths pretty
>> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>>
>> -andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>
>> Hi Rory,
>>
>> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
>> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
>> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
>> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
>> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
>> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
>> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
>> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrés
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>>
>>> Rory.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to
>>>> be
>>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>>
>>>> Ryan
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>>> 
>>>> To: ; 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it here
>>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>
>>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>>
>>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>>
>>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>>
>>>>> New:
>>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>>> highlights it.
>>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound code
>>>>> using View Code)
>>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when Csound
>>>>> is not running
>>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>>> over it.
>>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>>> included example.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fixed:
>>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>>> modified.
>>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>>> stripped
>>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>>> display opcodes
>>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>>
>>>>> Internal changes:
>>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>> --
>>
>>
>> Andrés
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>
>
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Well, I don't know about the access denied but it appears you don't have 
Nullsoft's Scriptable Install System compiler in the src. Also, the 
permissions are probably messed up in Windows because OSX and Linux handle 
permissions way differently than Windows. You should use cmd and type attrib 
in src's parent dir and see if it's marked with R for read-only.

Ryan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rory Walsh" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 3:26 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for 
Windows


I just installed QTcreator and tried building QuteCsound but it fails:

Running build steps for project src...
Starting: C:/Qt/QtCreator/qt/bin/qmake.exe
D:/MyDocuments/SourceCode/quteCsound/trunk/qutecsound/src/src.pro
-spec win32-g++ -r CONFIG+=debug_and_release
Project MESSAGE: Generating QuteCsound Makefile for double precision
(64-bit) Csound...
Project MESSAGE: NSIS installer compiler was not found in the
specified directory.
Project MESSAGE: ...skipping installer compilation.
Exited with code 0.
Starting: C:/Qt/QtCreator/mingw/bin/mingw32-make.exe debug -w
mingw32-make: Entering directory
`D:/MyDocuments/SourceCode/quteCsound/trunk/qutecsound/src'
C:/Qt/QtCreator/mingw/bin/mingw32-make -f Makefile.Debug
mingw32-make: Leaving directory
`D:/MyDocuments/SourceCode/quteCsound/trunk/qutecsound/src'
process_begin: CreateProcess(C:\Qt\QtCreator\mingw\bin\mingw32-make.exe,
C:/Qt/QtCreator/mingw/bin/mingw32-make -f Makefile.Debug, ...) failed.
make (e=5): Access is denied.
mingw32-make: *** [debug] Error 5
Exited with code 2.
Error while building project src
When executing build step 'Make'

Any ideas? I can't see why access would be denied?

2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>
> I'm using the qtcreator beta ide to put it all together for me in mingw 
> and
> from a msvc perspective it is much easier than trying to understand it 
> from
> an msys or cygwin point of view.  I'm very pleased with it.  I just now
> committed a much improved qmake project file setup for it so it should be
> alot easier to make than before, too.  Good timing.
>
> -andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rory Walsh" 
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:56:48 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for 
> Windows
>
> I just downloaded QT and the other source I need, if I have any
> problem building I'll let you know. Cheers,
>
> Rory.
>
>
> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>
>> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
>> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths pretty
>> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>>
>> -andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>
>> Hi Rory,
>>
>> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
>> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
>> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
>> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
>> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
>> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
>> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
>> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrés
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>>
>>> Rory.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to
>>>> be
>>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>>
>>>> Ryan
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>>> 
>>>> To: ; 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it here
>>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>
>>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>>
>>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>>
>>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>>
>>>>> New:
>>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>>> highlights it.
>>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound code
>>>>> using View Code)
>>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when Csound
>>>>> is not running
>>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>>> over it.
>>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>>> included example.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fixed:
>>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>>> modified.
>>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>>> stripped
>>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>>> display opcodes
>>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>>
>>>>> Internal changes:
>>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body 
>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body 
>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>>> csound"
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Andrés
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>
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src.pro is marked as A?

2009/2/1 Ryan Olejnik :
> Well, I don't know about the access denied but it appears you don't have
> Nullsoft's Scriptable Install System compiler in the src. Also, the
> permissions are probably messed up in Windows because OSX and Linux handle
> permissions way differently than Windows. You should use cmd and type attrib
> in src's parent dir and see if it's marked with R for read-only.
>
> Ryan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Walsh" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 3:26 PM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for
> Windows
>
>
> I just installed QTcreator and tried building QuteCsound but it fails:
>
> Running build steps for project src...
> Starting: C:/Qt/QtCreator/qt/bin/qmake.exe
> D:/MyDocuments/SourceCode/quteCsound/trunk/qutecsound/src/src.pro
> -spec win32-g++ -r CONFIG+=debug_and_release
> Project MESSAGE: Generating QuteCsound Makefile for double precision
> (64-bit) Csound...
> Project MESSAGE: NSIS installer compiler was not found in the
> specified directory.
> Project MESSAGE: ...skipping installer compilation.
> Exited with code 0.
> Starting: C:/Qt/QtCreator/mingw/bin/mingw32-make.exe debug -w
> mingw32-make: Entering directory
> `D:/MyDocuments/SourceCode/quteCsound/trunk/qutecsound/src'
> C:/Qt/QtCreator/mingw/bin/mingw32-make -f Makefile.Debug
> mingw32-make: Leaving directory
> `D:/MyDocuments/SourceCode/quteCsound/trunk/qutecsound/src'
> process_begin: CreateProcess(C:\Qt\QtCreator\mingw\bin\mingw32-make.exe,
> C:/Qt/QtCreator/mingw/bin/mingw32-make -f Makefile.Debug, ...) failed.
> make (e=5): Access is denied.
> mingw32-make: *** [debug] Error 5
> Exited with code 2.
> Error while building project src
> When executing build step 'Make'
>
> Any ideas? I can't see why access would be denied?
>
> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>
>> I'm using the qtcreator beta ide to put it all together for me in mingw
>> and
>> from a msvc perspective it is much easier than trying to understand it
>> from
>> an msys or cygwin point of view.  I'm very pleased with it.  I just now
>> committed a much improved qmake project file setup for it so it should be
>> alot easier to make than before, too.  Good timing.
>>
>> -andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:56:48 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for
>> Windows
>>
>> I just downloaded QT and the other source I need, if I have any
>> problem building I'll let you know. Cheers,
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>
>>> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
>>> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths pretty
>>> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>>>
>>> -andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>
>>> Hi Rory,
>>>
>>> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
>>> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
>>> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
>>> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
>>> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
>>> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
>>> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
>>> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>>>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>>>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>>>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>>>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>>>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>>>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>>>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to
>>>>> be
>>>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: ; 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it here
>>>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New:
>>>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>>>> highlights it.
>>>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound code
>>>>>> using View Code)
>>>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when Csound
>>>>>> is not running
>>>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>>>> over it.
>>>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>>>> included example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fixed:
>>>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>>>> modified.
>>>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>>>> stripped
>>>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>>>> display opcodes
>>>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Internal changes:
>>>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>
>
> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>

Oops, just right click on the src folder and see if read only is checkboxed.

Ryan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rory Walsh" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 5:11 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 
04.RC2 for Windows


src.pro is marked as A?

2009/2/1 Ryan Olejnik :
> Well, I don't know about the access denied but it appears you don't have
> Nullsoft's Scriptable Install System compiler in the src. Also, the
> permissions are probably messed up in Windows because OSX and Linux handle
> permissions way differently than Windows. You should use cmd and type 
> attrib
> in src's parent dir and see if it's marked with R for read-only.
>
> Ryan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Walsh" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 3:26 PM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 
> for
> Windows
>
>
> I just installed QTcreator and tried building QuteCsound but it fails:
>
> Running build steps for project src...
> Starting: C:/Qt/QtCreator/qt/bin/qmake.exe
> D:/MyDocuments/SourceCode/quteCsound/trunk/qutecsound/src/src.pro
> -spec win32-g++ -r CONFIG+=debug_and_release
> Project MESSAGE: Generating QuteCsound Makefile for double precision
> (64-bit) Csound...
> Project MESSAGE: NSIS installer compiler was not found in the
> specified directory.
> Project MESSAGE: ...skipping installer compilation.
> Exited with code 0.
> Starting: C:/Qt/QtCreator/mingw/bin/mingw32-make.exe debug -w
> mingw32-make: Entering directory
> `D:/MyDocuments/SourceCode/quteCsound/trunk/qutecsound/src'
> C:/Qt/QtCreator/mingw/bin/mingw32-make -f Makefile.Debug
> mingw32-make: Leaving directory
> `D:/MyDocuments/SourceCode/quteCsound/trunk/qutecsound/src'
> process_begin: CreateProcess(C:\Qt\QtCreator\mingw\bin\mingw32-make.exe,
> C:/Qt/QtCreator/mingw/bin/mingw32-make -f Makefile.Debug, ...) failed.
> make (e=5): Access is denied.
> mingw32-make: *** [debug] Error 5
> Exited with code 2.
> Error while building project src
> When executing build step 'Make'
>
> Any ideas? I can't see why access would be denied?
>
> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>
>> I'm using the qtcreator beta ide to put it all together for me in mingw
>> and
>> from a msvc perspective it is much easier than trying to understand it
>> from
>> an msys or cygwin point of view.  I'm very pleased with it.  I just now
>> committed a much improved qmake project file setup for it so it should be
>> alot easier to make than before, too.  Good timing.
>>
>> -andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:56:48 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for
>> Windows
>>
>> I just downloaded QT and the other source I need, if I have any
>> problem building I'll let you know. Cheers,
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>>
>>> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
>>> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths 
>>> pretty
>>> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>>>
>>> -andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>
>>> Hi Rory,
>>>
>>> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
>>> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
>>> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
>>> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
>>> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
>>> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
>>> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
>>> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>>>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>>>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>>>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>>>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>>>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>>>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>>>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to
>>>>> be
>>>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: ; 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera 
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it 
>>>>>> here
>>>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New:
>>>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>>>> highlights it.
>>>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound 
>>>>>> code
>>>>>> using View Code)
>>>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when 
>>>>>> Csound
>>>>>> is not running
>>>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>>>> over it.
>>>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>>>> included example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fixed:
>>>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>>>> modified.
>>>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>>>> stripped
>>>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>>>> display opcodes
>>>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Internal changes:
>>>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
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It's not marked as read-only.

2009/2/1 Ryan Olejnik :
> Oops, just right click on the src folder and see if read only is checkboxed.
>
> Ryan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Walsh" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 5:11 PM
> Subject: [Csnd]

sh.exe isn't in the system path. I didn't have much time to
investiage, I will try again once I have a free minute. Thanks for the
assistance.

Rory.


2009/2/2 Andy Fillebrown :
>
> Hi Rory,
>
> I'm not familiar with that error, but as a sanity check, make sure "sh.exe"
> isn't on the path.  If sh.exe isn't on the path and you're still getting the
> same error then it might be a security issue with your login permissions or
> in some rare cases your firewall or anti-virus.
>
> Regards,
> -andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rory Walsh" 
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 4:26:20 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for
> Windows
>
> I just installed QTcreator and tried building QuteCsound but it fails:
>
> Running build steps for project src...
> Starting: C:/Qt/QtCreator/qt/bin/qmake.exe
> D:/MyDocuments/SourceCode/quteCsound/trunk/qutecsound/src/src.pro
> -spec win32-g++ -r CONFIG+=debug_and_release
> Project MESSAGE: Generating QuteCsound Makefile for double precision
> (64-bit) Csound...
> Project MESSAGE: NSIS installer compiler was not found in the
> specified directory.
> Project MESSAGE: ...skipping installer compilation.
> Exited with code 0.
> Starting: C:/Qt/QtCreator/mingw/bin/mingw32-make.exe debug -w
> mingw32-make: Entering directory
> `D:/MyDocuments/SourceCode/quteCsound/trunk/qutecsound/src'
> C:/Qt/QtCreator/mingw/bin/mingw32-make -f Makefile.Debug
> mingw32-make: Leaving directory
> `D:/MyDocuments/SourceCode/quteCsound/trunk/qutecsound/src'
> process_begin: CreateProcess(C:\Qt\QtCreator\mingw\bin\mingw32-make.exe,
> C:/Qt/QtCreator/mingw/bin/mingw32-make -f Makefile.Debug, ...) failed.
> make (e=5): Access is denied.
> mingw32-make: *** [debug] Error 5
> Exited with code 2.
> Error while building project src
> When executing build step 'Make'
>
> Any ideas? I can't see why access would be denied?
>
>

Hi Andy. I never found time to sort out that QtCreator problem, I
wonder if you wouldn't mind could you prepare a binary for me that
links to csounddll.5.1? If it's too much hassle don't worry about it.
I might post something on the QT forum about my compilation problem.
Cheers,

Rory.


2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>
> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths pretty
> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>
> -andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>
> Hi Rory,
>
> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to be
>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>> 
>>> To: ; 
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it here
>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>
>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>
>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>
>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>
>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>
>>>> New:
>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>> highlights it.
>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound code
>>>> using View Code)
>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when Csound
>>>> is not running
>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>> over it.
>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>> included example.
>>>>
>>>> Fixed:
>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>> modified.
>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>> QuteCsound
>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>> stripped
>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>> display opcodes
>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>
>>>> Internal changes:
>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy!
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrés
>>>
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Will do Andy. A float version would be great. It's just that I've been
using Lettuce with one class and I've started using QuteCsound with
another so I need both frontends to use the same library and as
mentioned before I'm not quite ready yet to rebuild Lettuce, that's
going to take some time but I will try..

2009/2/7 Andy Fillebrown :
>
>
> No problem at all.  I'll email you an installer when I re-acquire the 5.1
> libraries.  Do you have a preference, doubles or floats version, or both?
>
> Before you give up on qtcreator, could you download the head revision of
> qutecsound's source and try again?  There were some other issues with the
> build tree I uploaded last week and I'm wondering if the revision roll-back
> fixed the error you were running into, too.  No worries if you don't have
> time.  I'm just curious.
>
> Regards,
> andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rory Walsh" 
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 3:28:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>
> Hi Andy. I never found time to sort out that QtCreator problem, I
> wonder if you wouldn't mind could you prepare a binary for me that
> links to csounddll.5.1? If it's too much hassle don't worry about it.
> I might post something on the QT forum about my compilation problem.
> Cheers,
>
> Rory.
>
>
> 2009/1/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>
>> I built it against 5.2 but I'll gladly build it for other versions if
>> needed.  We're going to be approaching ridiculous filename lengths pretty
>> soon, though, with all these version numbers piling on =)
>>
>> -andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:09:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>
>> Hi Rory,
>>
>> I asked Andy to build against 5.10 so that this version will maintain
>> future compatibility (The csound api version was bumped, so it's no
>> longer compatible with earlier versions, both versions can coexist in
>> a system -it's that way on OS X- but I don't know about the Windows
>> installers). It's easy enough to build against earlier versions, maybe
>> Andy can do it for you. If you have a build environment set up on
>> Windows, building QuteCsound is very easy since it only depends on
>> Csound, Qt and libsndfile.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrés
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> It won't run for me as I don't have csound32.dll.5.1. I missed the
>>> thread on this but do the latest versions of Csound come with
>>> csound32.dll.5.2 instead of  csound32.dll.5.1? Is it possible to have
>>> both libraries installed on the same windows machine? I guess this
>>> means that Lettuce will no longer work with newer versions of Csound.
>>> So if I want it to work with the newer library I need to rebuild
>>> Lettuce which will be difficult given that I lost a good portion of
>>> the source in a hard drive-by accident...
>>>
>>> Rory.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/1/29 Ryan Olejnik :
>>>> Thanks guys! Though I've not done any extensive testing, this seems to
>>>> be
>>>> working great and fast on my laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic!
>>>> Definitely a welcome change from Csound 5 GUI.
>>>>
>>>> Ryan
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>>>> 
>>>> To: ; 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 AM
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2 for Windows
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to Andy Fillebrown, the Windows installers are now up. There
>>>> are some issues particularly with the doubles version, but please
>>>> update to this new version and let us know how it goes for you.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Andres Cabrera 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm happy to announce a new version of QuteCsound. You can get it here
>>>>> (currently OS X only, Windows version will be announced soon):
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=227265&package_id=275156
>>>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>
>>>>> This version, though in name a new release candidate, actually has
>>>>> major changes, both in performance, stability and functionality.
>>>>> Please try it and report any issues you find. Upgrading is highly
>>>>> recommended as this release fixes the nasty
>>>>> save-while-running-and-I'll-blank-your-file bug.
>>>>>
>>>>> To use the code graph function, you need graphviz from graphviz.org.
>>>>> This release also makes QuteCsound dependent on libsndfile to record
>>>>> Csound output directly from QuteCsound (no more need for fout).
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the details:
>>>>>
>>>>> Version 0.4RC2
>>>>>
>>>>> New:
>>>>> -When there are compilation errors, the editor goes to error line and
>>>>> highlights it.
>>>>> -New record button which can start/stop recording csound's output to
>>>>> file at any moment (without overwriting previous recordings)
>>>>> -Code graph generator (you can now produce a graph of your Csound code
>>>>> using View Code)
>>>>> -Option in edit menu to change from invalue/outvalue to chnget/chnset
>>>>> and viceversaGraph in the View Menu. Some things like if's and labels
>>>>> are not yet properly shown)
>>>>> -Widgets with the same channel are now interconnected even when Csound
>>>>> is not running
>>>>> -New Scope widget which allows seeing Csound's output. It should be
>>>>> more efficient than using a graph widget with the display opcode.
>>>>> Additionally, the Scope Widget can be frozen by clicking and holding
>>>>> over it.
>>>>> -New option to set default csd file.
>>>>> -QuteCsound now builds on Solaris
>>>>> -Keyboard shortcut for Save as...
>>>>> -Groups fo widgets can now be selected dragging the mouse
>>>>> -New examples in Example menu
>>>>> -Changed Play to Run in menus
>>>>> -Graph Widget can now be zoomed in/out in the preferences
>>>>> -Graph widget now receives a value which sets the shown table. See
>>>>> included example.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fixed:
>>>>> -Widget Panel hides when open and save file chooser opens, to prevent
>>>>> the widget panel  from obstructing the dialog
>>>>> -Document tabs now display modified icon correctly when they are
>>>>> modified.
>>>>> -Files can't be opened (or saved as) if they are already open in
>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>> -Labels can now contain commas and other characters which were being
>>>>> stripped
>>>>> -Added close button to find/replace dialog
>>>>> -Variables containing '_' are now highlighted properly
>>>>> -Graph widget now displays properly the output of the dispfft and
>>>>> display opcodes
>>>>> -Graph Widgets now zoom properly (no more white graphs)
>>>>> -Fixed crash when saving while running
>>>>> -Several bug fixes should improve performance and stability
>>>>>
>>>>> Internal changes:
>>>>> -QuteCsound now requires libsndfile for the Record button. This
>>>>> dependency can be removed in the src.pro file
>>>>> -Removed support for chnget/chnset as it conflicts too much with the
>>>>> internal model of QuteCsound
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>> Andrés
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
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Cheers Andy. I built the latest Csound build here so it runs for me
now as I have a valid csound32.dll.5.2, I think it might be nice to
support earlier builds for time being until more users have made the
upgrade. Thanks for getting back to me,

Rory.


2009/2/25 Andy Fillebrown :
>
> oops, sorry 'bout that ...thought I was sending to Rory...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Fillebrown" 
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:17:37 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ann] QuteCsound 04.RC2
> for Windows
>
>
>
> Hi Rory,
>
> ...just wanted to let you know I haven't forgotten about you.  Andres just
> notified me of a new release for QuteCsound, and I'll be posting windows
> builds linked to both the new and old versions of the Csound api on
> sourceforge in the next couple of days.
>
> Cheers,
> andy.f
>