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[Csnd] Music made with the brain?

Date2014-07-22 20:22
FromJohn Colgrove
Subject[Csnd] Music made with the brain?
http://vimeo.com/67935519

Has anybody ever tried that with Csound? It's music made with your
Brainwaves. It would be fascinating to see how well it will work with
Csound. Once I get an EEG Biosensor (the MindWave by NeuroSky is the headset
used in that video) I'll definitely try.



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Date2014-07-22 20:29
FromChristopher Watts
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Music made with the brain?
I don't know if you can top Lucier's lo-fi version from 1965. 

Best,
Chris

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> On Jul 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, "John Colgrove"  wrote:
> 
> http://vimeo.com/67935519
> 
> Has anybody ever tried that with Csound? It's music made with your
> Brainwaves. It would be fascinating to see how well it will work with
> Csound. Once I get an EEG Biosensor (the MindWave by NeuroSky is the headset
> used in that video) I'll definitely try.
> 
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Date2014-07-27 10:07
FromTarmo Johannes
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Music made with the brain?
Hi,

Thanks for the link! We were thinking with one of my ensembles to develop also 
a project using similar sensors but have not ordered them yet.

Might be that it will end up in another interactive project wehere I may need 
help of the Csound community, but I will write longer when the ideas get 
clearer.

best!
tarmo

On Tuesday 22 July 2014 12:22:47 John Colgrove wrote:
> http://vimeo.com/67935519
> 
> Has anybody ever tried that with Csound? It's music made with your
> Brainwaves. It would be fascinating to see how well it will work with
> Csound. Once I get an EEG Biosensor (the MindWave by NeuroSky is the headset
> used in that video) I'll definitely try.
> 
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Date2014-07-27 16:30
FromJim Aikin
Subject[Csnd] Re: Music made with the brain?
> Has anybody ever tried that with Csound? It's music made with your
Brainwaves. It would be
> fascinating to see how well it will work with Csound. 

This topic comes up once in a while. My response is very cynical, but also
accurate:

You don't need any special hardware at all to produce music with your brain
waves. You're already equipped with a very fast and very accurate
brain-wave-to-music converter -- your fingers.

Pick up a violin or sit down at a piano. The music you'll get using your
fingers will be more complex and more interesting than anything produced by
an electrical brain-wave sensor. And if you want some slowly or rapidly
cycling wavelike activity, why not use LFOs? Here again, you can get much
more complex and interesting music out of five cross-modulating LFOs than
you'll ever get from a brain-wave sensor.

The underlying point I'm driving at (quite aside from the fact that I'm
being crabby) is that music technologies should be judged by the music that
they facilitate. A technology has no value based solely on the fact that
it's new and different.



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Date2014-07-27 17:24
FromPMA
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: Music made with the brain?
Hear, hear!  I attended a Lucier brain-wave concert at Wesleyan
in the early '70s.  I remember the spectacle as thrilling, but only
visually so.  Of its sounds I retained no impression (beyond, that
I'd probably just missed something).


Jim Aikin wrote:
>> Has anybody ever tried that with Csound? It's music made with your
> Brainwaves. It would be
>> fascinating to see how well it will work with Csound.
>
> This topic comes up once in a while. My response is very cynical, but also
> accurate:
>
> You don't need any special hardware at all to produce music with your brain
> waves. You're already equipped with a very fast and very accurate
> brain-wave-to-music converter -- your fingers.
>
> Pick up a violin or sit down at a piano. The music you'll get using your
> fingers will be more complex and more interesting than anything produced by
> an electrical brain-wave sensor. And if you want some slowly or rapidly
> cycling wavelike activity, why not use LFOs? Here again, you can get much
> more complex and interesting music out of five cross-modulating LFOs than
> you'll ever get from a brain-wave sensor.
>
> The underlying point I'm driving at (quite aside from the fact that I'm
> being crabby) is that music technologies should be judged by the music that
> they facilitate. A technology has no value based solely on the fact that
> it's new and different.
>
>
>
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