This is good to know, Rick.

Cross the roll-up keyboard off the list.

I've the Trigger Finger as well (actually, I've got *very many* control 
surfaces). Well built, portable, relatively impervious to dust and dirt. One 
drawback (no doubt shared by many units): those four *slider* knobs come off 
*very easily*. Interestingly, the 8 *pot* knobs are very snug.

Unfortunately for my needs, 8 pots and 4 sliders; I come up 4 short (I need 
16).

A comment regarding the Trigger Finger (drum) pads: I find pads a poor 
substitute as triggers for both buttons and keys. Both of the latter trigger 
reliably; a light touch on a pad may or may not. And pads sometimes 
double-hit. In addition, I find the velocity sensitivity of pads pretty 
useless; keys are better. Neither give the level of sensitivity I usually 
find useful, however.

If I needed to use a pad in connection with amplitude info, I'd use a slider 
(or pot) to specify amplitude and just use the pad as a trigger. (One of my 
versions of "What's in a Name?" does just that.)

Rick, any further suggestions? As a matter of fact, would you maybe have a 
list of MIDI controllers (USB) that work with XO?

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dr. Richard Boulanger" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:05 AM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Recommended MIDI devices (USB) for OLPC


> M-Audio Trigger Finger works with XO
> The roll up USB (which I own) does not
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:40 AM, "Art Hunkins"  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, folks, for the recommendations.
>>
>> David, this would seem excellent when MIDI notes were required. I  wonder 
>> whether these rolled-up keyboard are "plug and play (notes)"  or whether 
>> they require software to be installed?
>>
>> Such a keyboard nicely addresses portability plus "keeping the dust/ dirt 
>> out." Crucial. I expect that all other MIDI keyboards would  have a 
>> problem with dirt/dust.
>>
>> Actually, I've solved the keyboard problem by using the (OLPC) ASCII 
>> keyboard with sensekey. That works well. (I don't need notes, just 
>> on/off buttons.)
>>
>> What I'm really looking for is a 16-pot or slider control surface.  Does 
>> anyone know of a unit that would be impervious to dust/dirt in  problem 
>> environments? (I can't think of any.)
>>
>> I note how much more expensive MIDI foot controllers seem to be than 
>> table-top control surfaces. I presume most of the cost is in rugged 
>> construction, keeping dependability high (given rough treatment) and 
>> dust/dirt low.
>>
>> Art Hunkins
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Akbari" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:01 PM
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Recommended MIDI devices (USB) for OLPC
>>
>>
>>> Why don't you try something like this:
>>>
>>> http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-134-49-en-70-28xz.html
>>>
>>> You can just roll it up and take it with you and the OLPC.
>>>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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Art

Sorry I don't have a complete list. I mainly use the O2with the XO. I  
agree with you about some of the problems with Trigger Finger.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 22, 2008, at 1:27 PM, "Art Hunkins"  wrote:

> This is good to know, Rick.
>
> Cross the roll-up keyboard off the list.
>
> I've the Trigger Finger as well (actually, I've got *very many*  
> control surfaces). Well built, portable, relatively impervious to  
> dust and dirt. One drawback (no doubt shared by many units): those  
> four *slider* knobs come off *very easily*. Interestingly, the 8  
> *pot* knobs are very snug.
>
> Unfortunately for my needs, 8 pots and 4 sliders; I come up 4 short  
> (I need 16).
>
> A comment regarding the Trigger Finger (drum) pads: I find pads a  
> poor substitute as triggers for both buttons and keys. Both of the  
> latter trigger reliably; a light touch on a pad may or may not. And  
> pads sometimes double-hit. In addition, I find the velocity  
> sensitivity of pads pretty useless; keys are better. Neither give  
> the level of sensitivity I usually find useful, however.
>
> If I needed to use a pad in connection with amplitude info, I'd use  
> a slider (or pot) to specify amplitude and just use the pad as a  
> trigger. (One of my versions of "What's in a Name?" does just that.)
>
> Rick, any further suggestions? As a matter of fact, would you maybe  
> have a list of MIDI controllers (USB) that work with XO?
>
> Art Hunkins
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Richard Boulanger"  >
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:05 AM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Recommended MIDI devices (USB) for  
> OLPC
>
>
>> M-Audio Trigger Finger works with XO
>> The roll up USB (which I own) does not
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:40 AM, "Art Hunkins"  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, folks, for the recommendations.
>>>
>>> David, this would seem excellent when MIDI notes were required. I   
>>> wonder whether these rolled-up keyboard are "plug and play  
>>> (notes)"  or whether they require software to be installed?
>>>
>>> Such a keyboard nicely addresses portability plus "keeping the  
>>> dust/ dirt out." Crucial. I expect that all other MIDI keyboards  
>>> would  have a problem with dirt/dust.
>>>
>>> Actually, I've solved the keyboard problem by using the (OLPC)  
>>> ASCII keyboard with sensekey. That works well. (I don't need  
>>> notes, just on/off buttons.)
>>>
>>> What I'm really looking for is a 16-pot or slider control  
>>> surface.  Does anyone know of a unit that would be impervious to  
>>> dust/dirt in  problem environments? (I can't think of any.)
>>>
>>> I note how much more expensive MIDI foot controllers seem to be  
>>> than table-top control surfaces. I presume most of the cost is in  
>>> rugged construction, keeping dependability high (given rough  
>>> treatment) and dust/dirt low.
>>>
>>> Art Hunkins
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Akbari"  
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:01 PM
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Recommended MIDI devices (USB) for OLPC
>>>
>>>
>>>> Why don't you try something like this:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-134-49-en-70-28xz.html
>>>>
>>>> You can just roll it up and take it with you and the OLPC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body  
>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Not sure if they are quite available yet, and I've no idea about their 
USB class compliance, but the new Korg nanoSERIES controllers look 
interesting:

http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_prod_no=NanoSeries&category_id=8

(nanoKONTROL's 8 pots and 8 sliders hit Art's magic number of CCs as well)

Given their compact size, they are at least mechanically a good fit with 
the OLPC.

Gareth,

Very interesting.  The nanoKontrol seems to be exactly what Art is  
looking for - and me too.

-dB

On Jul 29, 2008, at 2:17 AM, Gareth Edwards wrote:

> Not sure if they are quite available yet, and I've no idea about  
> their USB class compliance, but the new Korg nanoSERIES controllers  
> look interesting:
>
> http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_prod_no=NanoSeries&category_id=8
>
> (nanoKONTROL's 8 pots and 8 sliders hit Art's magic number of CCs  
> as well)
>
> Given their compact size, they are at least mechanically a good fit  
> with the OLPC.
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to this list.
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> "unsubscribe csound"