No need to license it as GPL; csound is LGPL, it can be
linked to by programs with other licenses.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Lato" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:11 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Beginners Question, Csound as stand-alone 
softsynth / plugin?


> You could statically link to the CSound libraries from C/C++, provided you 
> license your program as GPL (I think).  You could also distribute a 
> .csound dll with an application, which has the drawbacks of being 
> windows-only and also subject to licensing restrictions.
>
> I don't really see any benefit to this, though.  It's more work to 
> maintain as you'd need versions for multiple platforms as opposed to a 
> .csd which will work with any csound.
>
> To answer the OP's question (assuming I understand it properly), I would 
> say just distribute the .csd.  That is by far the most portable and 
> concise option.  If you want a synth created in csound, then go ahead and 
> distribute the code to that as well, but the end-user will still need to 
> have csound installed to link to.
>
> John W. Lato
> Sarah and Ernest Butler School of Music
> The University of Texas at Austin
> 1 University Station E3100
> Austin, TX 78712-0435
> (512) 232-2090
>
> Michael Bechard wrote:
>> Don't you still need the CSound libraries if you went with Python or any 
>> of the other languages you mentioned?
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: victor 
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:42:22 PM
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Beginners Question, Csound as stand-alone 
>> softsynth / plugin?
>>
>> With Python, TclTk, Java or C/C++ it is very easy to do a standalone for
>> Csound.  MaxMSP standalones are not really standalones, they need
>> the maxplay bit (or embeded). Of all current systems, Csound 5 is the
>> one the offers the most flexibility in terms of choice of language for
>> implementation. At the end of the day, it is a programming library.
>>  There is also cabbage by Rory Walsh, which is a standalone builder. And
>> on windows, his Lettuce can generate standalones as well (I think).
>>  Victor
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* peiman khosravi 
>>     *To:* csound@lists.bath.ac.uk 
>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:23 PM
>>     *Subject:* [Csnd] Re: Beginners Question, Csound as stand-alone
>>     softsynth / plugin?
>>
>>     Perhaps this is not the place to say this. But I think it is very
>>     easy to make a standalone application with RTcmix. And of course
>>     with maxmsp. RTcmix in particular is very similar to csound in terms
>>     of syntax, if you know csound you will find it very easy to learn as
>>     they are both descendants of the Music V family of languages. I have
>>     no idea how you would do this with csound maybe someone else can
>>     say, but I would imagine that it would require some level of
>>     extra-csound programing expertise. Best
>>     Peiman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 22 Jul 2008, at 15:30, Andreas Jansson wrote:
>>
>>>     Hi!
>>>
>>>     I'm an audio engineering student doing an essay on synthesiser 
>>> design.
>>>     I have not been using Csound for very long, but I want to submit a
>>>     Csound instrument with my appendices. However I would rather not 
>>> have
>>>     to include the whole Csound library, in order to make it easier
>>>     marked.
>>>
>>>     I have been reading about Csound VST and csLADSPA, but from what I
>>>     understand, they also require the Csound library(?). Is there any 
>>> way
>>>     of "compiling" the .csd file as a VST-plugin, or a stand-alone
>>>     solft-synth "application"?
>>>
>>>     I use an Intel Macbook, but I think could find me a PC if necessary.
>>>
>>>     All the best,
>>>     Andreas Jansson
>>>
>>>
>>>     Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>     To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>      with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>>
>
>
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Thanks for the reminder, that slipped my mind for some reason.  However, if you 
statically link to an LGPL library, there are certain distribution requirements that 
do not apply to shared libraries.  In LGPL v. 3 you must provide a way for the user 
to re-link the application to a modified version of csound.  I believe the 
requirements for LGPL v.2 are essentially the same.

John W. Lato
Sarah and Ernest Butler School of Music
The University of Texas at Austin
1 University Station E3100
Austin, TX 78712-0435
(512) 232-2090

victor wrote:
> No need to license it as GPL; csound is LGPL, it can be
> linked to by programs with other licenses.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lato" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:11 PM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Beginners Question, Csound as 
> stand-alone softsynth / plugin?
> 
> 
>> You could statically link to the CSound libraries from C/C++, provided 
>> you license your program as GPL (I think).  You could also distribute 
>> a .csound dll with an application, which has the drawbacks of being 
>> windows-only and also subject to licensing restrictions.
>>
>> I don't really see any benefit to this, though.  It's more work to 
>> maintain as you'd need versions for multiple platforms as opposed to a 
>> .csd which will work with any csound.
>>
>> To answer the OP's question (assuming I understand it properly), I 
>> would say just distribute the .csd.  That is by far the most portable 
>> and concise option.  If you want a synth created in csound, then go 
>> ahead and distribute the code to that as well, but the end-user will 
>> still need to have csound installed to link to.
>>
>> John W. Lato
>> Sarah and Ernest Butler School of Music
>> The University of Texas at Austin
>> 1 University Station E3100
>> Austin, TX 78712-0435
>> (512) 232-2090
>>
>> Michael Bechard wrote:
>>> Don't you still need the CSound libraries if you went with Python or 
>>> any of the other languages you mentioned?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: victor 
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:42:22 PM
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Beginners Question, Csound as stand-alone 
>>> softsynth / plugin?
>>>
>>> With Python, TclTk, Java or C/C++ it is very easy to do a standalone for
>>> Csound.  MaxMSP standalones are not really standalones, they need
>>> the maxplay bit (or embeded). Of all current systems, Csound 5 is the
>>> one the offers the most flexibility in terms of choice of language for
>>> implementation. At the end of the day, it is a programming library.
>>>  There is also cabbage by Rory Walsh, which is a standalone builder. And
>>> on windows, his Lettuce can generate standalones as well (I think).
>>>  Victor
>>>
>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>     *From:* peiman khosravi 
>>>     *To:* csound@lists.bath.ac.uk 
>>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:23 PM
>>>     *Subject:* [Csnd] Re: Beginners Question, Csound as stand-alone
>>>     softsynth / plugin?
>>>
>>>     Perhaps this is not the place to say this. But I think it is very
>>>     easy to make a standalone application with RTcmix. And of course
>>>     with maxmsp. RTcmix in particular is very similar to csound in terms
>>>     of syntax, if you know csound you will find it very easy to learn as
>>>     they are both descendants of the Music V family of languages. I have
>>>     no idea how you would do this with csound maybe someone else can
>>>     say, but I would imagine that it would require some level of
>>>     extra-csound programing expertise. Best
>>>     Peiman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 22 Jul 2008, at 15:30, Andreas Jansson wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Hi!
>>>>
>>>>     I'm an audio engineering student doing an essay on synthesiser 
>>>> design.
>>>>     I have not been using Csound for very long, but I want to submit a
>>>>     Csound instrument with my appendices. However I would rather not 
>>>> have
>>>>     to include the whole Csound library, in order to make it easier
>>>>     marked.
>>>>
>>>>     I have been reading about Csound VST and csLADSPA, but from what I
>>>>     understand, they also require the Csound library(?). Is there 
>>>> any way
>>>>     of "compiling" the .csd file as a VST-plugin, or a stand-alone
>>>>     solft-synth "application"?
>>>>
>>>>     I use an Intel Macbook, but I think could find me a PC if 
>>>> necessary.
>>>>
>>>>     All the best,
>>>>     Andreas Jansson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>     To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>      with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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