[Csnd] what are banded waveguides
Date | 2012-03-06 19:56 |
From | Stefan Thomas |
Subject | [Csnd] what are banded waveguides |
Dear community, in the appendix of the manual I've read about modal frequencies: In general, wooden objects will not sound "wooden" unless a stochastic component is present in the sound (try banded waveguides). Unfortunately I haven't any idea what I have to imagine under "banded waveguides". Could someone be so kind giving an short example?
Thanks Stefan |
Date | 2012-03-06 22:56 |
From | Steven Yi |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] what are banded waveguides |
Hi Stefan, I'm only somewhat familiar with Banded Waveguides, but I'll try to answer with what I know, and hopefully others will correct me. From what I understand, it's a series of waveguides comprised of bandpass filters and delay lines, where the bandpass frequency and delay line length are tuned together. Each of the waveguides then is tuned to a different frequency, and is used like modal resonators. The diagrams I've seen has the sum output of the waveguides used as the output of the instrument, though it also feeds back into the bank via some interaction. Some links: http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/014892604322970643 http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/014892604322970634 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banded_waveguide_synthesis http://mt.music.mcgill.ca/~rudrarajuv/modeling/seminarReport.htm I was trying to create an example but was having some troubles with very high instability. Then I tried to write an example based on STK's source code, but it looks like it is doing something different than from the diagrams I saw in articles/webpages (I didn't see the sum output from the waveguides returning to interact/mix with the input signal, only the singular bands output returning to the band, but I haven't studied this in depth, and my results were not good :P). With the first attempt, I had used just butterbp opcodes feeding into vdelay3 opcodes, and used a set of those for each of the modal frequencies, and an mpulse opcode used as the exciter with a single impulse. That did sort of work, but was highly unstable (using the limit opcode is so useful during instrument building :D ). Anyways, hope that's of some use, and hope others can correct anything I wrote above! steven p.s. - Otherwise, you can use the mode opcode with the modal frequencies chart. This article has some working code for that: http://www.csounds.com/journal/issue16/resonators.html On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Stefan Thomas |