I'm trying to figure out if I should be developing Csoundo initially
for the floats or doubles version of Csound, though I have no idea
which is more commonly used these days.

I know the installer for OS X comes with both (though both csnd.jars
point to the floats, which is an entirely different issues.) I'm
unsure of the Windows and Linux pre-compiled binaries, as I couldn't
find an information regarding this at sourceforge. And someone told me
that Ubuntu ships with Csound doubles. Are there any other packages
out there I should be aware of?

Best,
Jake

I only use the doubles version, even for realtime stuff.  I'm on 
Windows.  The Windows binaries are always released in both float and 
double versions, though the installers for 5.12 are still pending AFAIK.

- Dave

On 8/22/2010 10:33 AM, Jacob Joaquin wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out if I should be developing Csoundo initially
> for the floats or doubles version of Csound, though I have no idea
> which is more commonly used these days.
>
> I know the installer for OS X comes with both (though both csnd.jars
> point to the floats, which is an entirely different issues.) I'm
> unsure of the Windows and Linux pre-compiled binaries, as I couldn't
> find an information regarding this at sourceforge. And someone told me
> that Ubuntu ships with Csound doubles. Are there any other packages
> out there I should be aware of?
>
> Best,
> Jake



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But this will change. From next release, the 'default' installed jar  
will point to doubles.

Victor
On 22 Aug 2010, at 15:33, Jacob Joaquin wrote:

> I know the installer for OS X comes with both (though both csnd.jars
> point to the floats, which is an entirely different issues.



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I as well only use doubles. Windows, Linux, Mac, self-compiled.

On 8/22/10, Dave Seidel  wrote:
> I only use the doubles version, even for realtime stuff.  I'm on
> Windows.  The Windows binaries are always released in both float and
> double versions, though the installers for 5.12 are still pending AFAIK.
>
> - Dave
>
> On 8/22/2010 10:33 AM, Jacob Joaquin wrote:
>> I'm trying to figure out if I should be developing Csoundo initially
>> for the floats or doubles version of Csound, though I have no idea
>> which is more commonly used these days.
>>
>> I know the installer for OS X comes with both (though both csnd.jars
>> point to the floats, which is an entirely different issues.) I'm
>> unsure of the Windows and Linux pre-compiled binaries, as I couldn't
>> find an information regarding this at sourceforge. And someone told me
>> that Ubuntu ships with Csound doubles. Are there any other packages
>> out there I should be aware of?
>>
>> Best,
>> Jake
>
>
>
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> I as well only use doubles. Windows, Linux, Mac, self-compiled.

Me too; always doubles, overwhemingly on Linux 64bit machines




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Greetings,

Doubles here, on 64-bit Debian and 32-bit Ubuntu systems.

Best,

dp



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I use only doubles.

However, others who more frequently use Csound in real-time play
should be consulted.

Regards,
Mike

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Jacob Joaquin  wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out if I should be developing Csoundo initially
> for the floats or doubles version of Csound, though I have no idea
> which is more commonly used these days.
>
> I know the installer for OS X comes with both (though both csnd.jars
> point to the floats, which is an entirely different issues.) I'm
> unsure of the Windows and Linux pre-compiled binaries, as I couldn't
> find an information regarding this at sourceforge. And someone told me
> that Ubuntu ships with Csound doubles. Are there any other packages
> out there I should be aware of?
>
> Best,
> Jake
> --
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> Slipmat - http://slipmat.noisepages.com/
>
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I use doubles only, for real time.

jp

>> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:33:27 -0700
>> From: jacobjoaquin@gmail.com
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Subject: [Csnd] Survey of Floats Vs. Doubles
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out if I should be developing Csoundo initially
>> for the floats or doubles version of Csound, though I have no idea
>> which is more commonly used these days.
>>
>> I know the installer for OS X comes with both (though both csnd.jars
>> point to the floats, which is an entirely different issues.) I'm
>> unsure of the Windows and Linux pre-compiled binaries, as I couldn't
>> find an information regarding this at sourceforge. And someone told me
>> that Ubuntu ships with Csound doubles. Are there any other packages
>> out there I should be aware of?
>>
>> Best,
>> Jake
>> --
>> The Csound Blog - http://csound.noisepages.com/
>> Slipmat - http://slipmat.noisepages.com/
>>
>>
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I have also switched to using doubles for all purposes, also realtime.
When making some examples for my DSP class, I discovered some rahter
serious differences in output between the two versions. For example
when doing bit reduction, I would get spurious "overshoots" with the
floats version. So it's not only about sound quality, but generally
doubles give more precise signal processing.

best
Oeyvind

2010/8/22 Brian Wong :
> I would just like to add that I certainly hope you do develop Csoundo for
> doubles rather than float. I have been playing around with Processing and
> really like it and look forward to using it with Csound once I have gained
> some experience with the language. OT - If interested, check out these
> scrolling text rollover buttons I made yesterday with Processing.
> http://bwong.ca/info.php
> http://bwong.ca/software.php
>
> Brian Wong
>> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:33:27 -0700
>> From: jacobjoaquin@gmail.com
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Subject: [Csnd] Survey of Floats Vs. Doubles
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out if I should be developing Csoundo initially
>> for the floats or doubles version of Csound, though I have no idea
>> which is more commonly used these days.
>>
>> I know the installer for OS X comes with both (though both csnd.jars
>> point to the floats, which is an entirely different issues.) I'm
>> unsure of the Windows and Linux pre-compiled binaries, as I couldn't
>> find an information regarding this at sourceforge. And someone told me
>> that Ubuntu ships with Csound doubles. Are there any other packages
>> out there I should be aware of?
>>
>> Best,
>> Jake
>> --
>> The Csound Blog - http://csound.noisepages.com/
>> Slipmat - http://slipmat.noisepages.com/
>>
>>
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>


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Only use doubles, self compiled Csound on 32 bit Linux (Arch). Even for 
realtime, even on a netbook. Doubles rock harder:

http://www.vimeo.com/12716797

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Brian Wong  wrote:
> I would just like to add that I certainly hope you do develop Csoundo for
> doubles rather than float. I have been playing around with Processing and
> really like it and look forward to using it with Csound once I have gained
> some experience with the language.

Thanks everyone for the input.  So it seems doubles wins.  Starting
with the next release, I'll probably switch from floats to doubles. I
can't start now since the csnd.jar that ships with
CsoundLib64.framework seems to link to the floats.  Not that big of a
deal, since Csoundo is in early Alpha.

Processing has a sporting good chance to replace PD & Max as being
"the" multi-media super glue. Or at least take a sizable bite out of
their market share. imho. For example, I created a photoresistor
theremin by sending data from my Arduino to Processing, and then from
Processing, sending it to Csound via Csoundo. I guess my point is that
Processing is far more than a visual language.

Best,
Jake

Interesting replies. I'll make the next release of QuteCsound for OS X
doubles, then (for windows, both versions are built by Andy).

Cheers,
Andrés

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:18 AM, Jacob Joaquin  wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Brian Wong  wrote:
>> I would just like to add that I certainly hope you do develop Csoundo for
>> doubles rather than float. I have been playing around with Processing and
>> really like it and look forward to using it with Csound once I have gained
>> some experience with the language.
>
> Thanks everyone for the input.  So it seems doubles wins.  Starting
> with the next release, I'll probably switch from floats to doubles. I
> can't start now since the csnd.jar that ships with
> CsoundLib64.framework seems to link to the floats.  Not that big of a
> deal, since Csoundo is in early Alpha.
>
> Processing has a sporting good chance to replace PD & Max as being
> "the" multi-media super glue. Or at least take a sizable bite out of
> their market share. imho. For example, I created a photoresistor
> theremin by sending data from my Arduino to Processing, and then from
> Processing, sending it to Csound via Csoundo. I guess my point is that
> Processing is far more than a visual language.
>
> Best,
> Jake
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> Slipmat - http://slipmat.noisepages.com/
>
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I've been meaning to get into Processing for a while now (no such plans 
for Max or Pd), and I'm excited about Csoundo as I think it will provide 
the impetus I need to get myself moving in that direction.

Thanks for your work, Jake.

- Dave

On 8/22/2010 9:18 PM, Jacob Joaquin wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Brian Wong  wrote:
>> I would just like to add that I certainly hope you do develop Csoundo for
>> doubles rather than float. I have been playing around with Processing and
>> really like it and look forward to using it with Csound once I have gained
>> some experience with the language.
>
> Thanks everyone for the input.  So it seems doubles wins.  Starting
> with the next release, I'll probably switch from floats to doubles. I
> can't start now since the csnd.jar that ships with
> CsoundLib64.framework seems to link to the floats.  Not that big of a
> deal, since Csoundo is in early Alpha.
>
> Processing has a sporting good chance to replace PD&  Max as being
> "the" multi-media super glue. Or at least take a sizable bite out of
> their market share. imho. For example, I created a photoresistor
> theremin by sending data from my Arduino to Processing, and then from
> Processing, sending it to Csound via Csoundo. I guess my point is that
> Processing is far more than a visual language.
>
> Best,
> Jake



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