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Date2010-08-27 15:53
Fromfrancesco
Subject[Csnd] Lua and csound on Ubuntu
Dear All,
i recently have started with an Ubuntu lucid system. I have installed Lua
and Csound from source and all seems to be ok. luaCsnd is OK. But when i try
to load luaCsoundAC in Lua i have this:

error loading module 'luaCsoundAC' from file './luaCsoundAC.so':
	luaCsnd.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

i started Lua into csound dir, where there are both luaCsnd.so and
luaCsoundAC.so.
I'm really new to linux and probably i have missed something obvious.
If someone of You have some help for me ...

Ciao,
francesco.

Date2010-08-27 17:15
FromBrian Redfern
Subject[Csnd] Re: Lua and csound on Ubuntu
I found CsoundAC is still broken under ubuntu, but it works fine on
debian, for Ubuntu you may have to build from source to get CsoundAC
to work.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:53 AM, francesco  wrote:
>
> Dear All,
> i recently have started with an Ubuntu lucid system. I have installed Lua
> and Csound from source and all seems to be ok. luaCsnd is OK. But when i try
> to load luaCsoundAC in Lua i have this:
>
> error loading module 'luaCsoundAC' from file './luaCsoundAC.so':
>        luaCsnd.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> i started Lua into csound dir, where there are both luaCsnd.so and
> luaCsoundAC.so.
> I'm really new to linux and probably i have missed something obvious.
> If someone of You have some help for me ...
>
> Ciao,
> francesco.
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Lua-and-csound-on-Ubuntu-tp2740150p2740150.html
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>
>
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>
>


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Date2010-08-27 17:26
FromMichael Gogins
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Lua and csound on Ubuntu
Set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable to refer to the
directory(s) with the .so files. If that works fix up your ld.config
or whatever it is.

Hope this helps,
Mike

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Brian Redfern  wrote:
> I found CsoundAC is still broken under ubuntu, but it works fine on
> debian, for Ubuntu you may have to build from source to get CsoundAC
> to work.
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:53 AM, francesco  wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>> i recently have started with an Ubuntu lucid system. I have installed Lua
>> and Csound from source and all seems to be ok. luaCsnd is OK. But when i try
>> to load luaCsoundAC in Lua i have this:
>>
>> error loading module 'luaCsoundAC' from file './luaCsoundAC.so':
>>        luaCsnd.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>
>> i started Lua into csound dir, where there are both luaCsnd.so and
>> luaCsoundAC.so.
>> I'm really new to linux and probably i have missed something obvious.
>> If someone of You have some help for me ...
>>
>> Ciao,
>> francesco.
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Lua-and-csound-on-Ubuntu-tp2740150p2740150.html
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
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Date2010-08-27 17:30
FromBrian Redfern
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Lua and csound on Ubuntu
Does that also fix issues with loading the CsoundAC libraries from
python on Ubuntu?

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> Set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable to refer to the
> directory(s) with the .so files. If that works fix up your ld.config
> or whatever it is.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Mike
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Brian Redfern  wrote:
>> I found CsoundAC is still broken under ubuntu, but it works fine on
>> debian, for Ubuntu you may have to build from source to get CsoundAC
>> to work.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:53 AM, francesco  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> i recently have started with an Ubuntu lucid system. I have installed Lua
>>> and Csound from source and all seems to be ok. luaCsnd is OK. But when i try
>>> to load luaCsoundAC in Lua i have this:
>>>
>>> error loading module 'luaCsoundAC' from file './luaCsoundAC.so':
>>>        luaCsnd.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>>
>>> i started Lua into csound dir, where there are both luaCsnd.so and
>>> luaCsoundAC.so.
>>> I'm really new to linux and probably i have missed something obvious.
>>> If someone of You have some help for me ...
>>>
>>> Ciao,
>>> francesco.
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Lua-and-csound-on-Ubuntu-tp2740150p2740150.html
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://www.michael-gogins.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
>
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Date2010-08-27 18:40
Fromfrancesco
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Lua and csound on Ubuntu
Yes, THANK YOU,
in this way it is work! Now i'm going to understand how to set permanently
this environment variable!
Apologies, but this are my first use of a linux os.

Thank You very much Mr. Gogins.

Ciao,
francesco.

Date2010-08-27 18:49
Fromfrancesco
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Lua and csound on Ubuntu
Hi Mr. Brian and thank You.
I have build csound (and csoundAC) from source, and seems that all is OK.
I am on Ubuntu Lucid (10.04) with the latest csound from cvs.
In python i'm able to import CsoundAC, and trying some of the tutorials by
Mr. Gogins seems that it's all right.

Again Thanks,
ciao,
francesco.

Date2010-08-27 19:04
FromBrian Redfern
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Lua and csound on Ubuntu
I'm going to try rebuilding from source, its one of those Ubuntu
annoyances, some packages are just broken and have to be rebuilt,
while debian seems to have higher standards for package inclusion.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:49 AM, francesco  wrote:
>
> Hi Mr. Brian and thank You.
> I have build csound (and csoundAC) from source, and seems that all is OK.
> I am on Ubuntu Lucid (10.04) with the latest csound from cvs.
> In python i'm able to import CsoundAC, and trying some of the tutorials by
> Mr. Gogins seems that it's all right.
>
> Again Thanks,
> ciao,
> francesco.
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Lua-and-csound-on-Ubuntu-tp2740150p2740375.html
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>
>
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Date2010-08-27 19:28
FromMichael Gogins
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Lua and csound on Ubuntu
Probably. The CsoundAC shared library needs to load the csnd shared
library in its own compiled C++ code. And the csnd shared library in
turn needs to load the csound shared library. This should all work if
you set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, which by the way is meant as a stopgap, e.g.
in a development environment. The right way to configure these things
for permanently installed software on Linux is with the ldconfig
command. Google, man, or info for that.

Hope this helps,
Mike

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Brian Redfern  wrote:
> Does that also fix issues with loading the CsoundAC libraries from
> python on Ubuntu?
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Michael Gogins
>  wrote:
>> Set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable to refer to the
>> directory(s) with the .so files. If that works fix up your ld.config
>> or whatever it is.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Mike
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Brian Redfern  wrote:
>>> I found CsoundAC is still broken under ubuntu, but it works fine on
>>> debian, for Ubuntu you may have to build from source to get CsoundAC
>>> to work.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:53 AM, francesco  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> i recently have started with an Ubuntu lucid system. I have installed Lua
>>>> and Csound from source and all seems to be ok. luaCsnd is OK. But when i try
>>>> to load luaCsoundAC in Lua i have this:
>>>>
>>>> error loading module 'luaCsoundAC' from file './luaCsoundAC.so':
>>>>        luaCsnd.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>>>
>>>> i started Lua into csound dir, where there are both luaCsnd.so and
>>>> luaCsoundAC.so.
>>>> I'm really new to linux and probably i have missed something obvious.
>>>> If someone of You have some help for me ...
>>>>
>>>> Ciao,
>>>> francesco.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Lua-and-csound-on-Ubuntu-tp2740150p2740150.html
>>>> Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Gogins
>> Irreducible Productions
>> http://www.michael-gogins.com
>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>
>>
>
>
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Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com


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Date2010-08-28 01:11
FromBrian Redfern
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lua and csound on Ubuntu
It turns out on lubuntu gcc is broken, so  I can't recompile. So I'm
switching to minimal debian and then compiling everything, including
the kernel from scratch, its the only way to really have a totally
fine tuned linux csound, since no distro seems to support all the cool
features such as CsoundAC "out of the box." I'm working for the
company that develops the indamixx commercial distro for musicians.
Right now they don't even support csound, but I convinced the CEO that
we can't leave csound out, even if it seems obscure to some people
because its just way too powerful.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> Probably. The CsoundAC shared library needs to load the csnd shared
> library in its own compiled C++ code. And the csnd shared library in
> turn needs to load the csound shared library. This should all work if
> you set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, which by the way is meant as a stopgap, e.g.
> in a development environment. The right way to configure these things
> for permanently installed software on Linux is with the ldconfig
> command. Google, man, or info for that.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Mike
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Brian Redfern  wrote:
>> Does that also fix issues with loading the CsoundAC libraries from
>> python on Ubuntu?
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Michael Gogins
>>  wrote:
>>> Set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable to refer to the
>>> directory(s) with the .so files. If that works fix up your ld.config
>>> or whatever it is.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Brian Redfern  wrote:
>>>> I found CsoundAC is still broken under ubuntu, but it works fine on
>>>> debian, for Ubuntu you may have to build from source to get CsoundAC
>>>> to work.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:53 AM, francesco  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>> i recently have started with an Ubuntu lucid system. I have installed Lua
>>>>> and Csound from source and all seems to be ok. luaCsnd is OK. But when i try
>>>>> to load luaCsoundAC in Lua i have this:
>>>>>
>>>>> error loading module 'luaCsoundAC' from file './luaCsoundAC.so':
>>>>>        luaCsnd.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>>>>
>>>>> i started Lua into csound dir, where there are both luaCsnd.so and
>>>>> luaCsoundAC.so.
>>>>> I'm really new to linux and probably i have missed something obvious.
>>>>> If someone of You have some help for me ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ciao,
>>>>> francesco.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Lua-and-csound-on-Ubuntu-tp2740150p2740150.html
>>>>> Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael Gogins
>>> Irreducible Productions
>>> http://www.michael-gogins.com
>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://www.michael-gogins.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
>
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Date2010-08-28 01:31
FromFelipe Sateler
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lua and csound on Ubuntu
On 27/08/10 20:11, Brian Redfern wrote:
> It turns out on lubuntu gcc is broken, so  I can't recompile. So I'm
> switching to minimal debian and then compiling everything, including
> the kernel from scratch, its the only way to really have a totally
> fine tuned linux csound, since no distro seems to support all the cool
> features such as CsoundAC "out of the box." I'm working for the
> company that develops the indamixx commercial distro for musicians.
> Right now they don't even support csound, but I convinced the CEO that
> we can't leave csound out, even if it seems obscure to some people
> because its just way too powerful.

What problems have you found with the debian csoundac packages? I'd be
glad to hear about them so (if possible) I can fix them.

Not that I want to start a distro flame here, but Ubuntu has broken
csound before (the python parts at least). To the best of my knowledge,
I have not yet borked csound on debian.

Date2010-08-28 02:33
FromAaron Krister Johnson
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lua and csound on Ubuntu
Hey,

I'm curious if there are any Arch Linux users of csound on Linux besides myself on this list?

I gave up on Ubuntu and basically all debian-derived distros a while ago. The idea of, esp. on Ubuntu, pushing an unstable distro out there every 6 months just to stay on scehdule, is madness. Sure it's easy for newbies of Linux, but it creates an impression of instability and brokenness, too. Seems like there are needlessly complex layers in both Debian and Ubuntu, one fo them is surely the init script structure.

Arch is bleeding edge, but 'purer' and more flexible, IMO. Fast and reasonably stable, too. The Pacman package manager might even trump apt-get for elegance and speed. Ubuntu has also made some really poor choices of default realtime kernel versions. I know Dave Phillips has commented on this before, and I found it to be true as well, and yet another reason to migrate to Arch.

Anyway, carry on.... :)

AKJ

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Felipe Sateler <fsateler@gmail.com> wrote:
On 27/08/10 20:11, Brian Redfern wrote:
> It turns out on lubuntu gcc is broken, so  I can't recompile. So I'm
> switching to minimal debian and then compiling everything, including
> the kernel from scratch, its the only way to really have a totally
> fine tuned linux csound, since no distro seems to support all the cool
> features such as CsoundAC "out of the box." I'm working for the
> company that develops the indamixx commercial distro for musicians.
> Right now they don't even support csound, but I convinced the CEO that
> we can't leave csound out, even if it seems obscure to some people
> because its just way too powerful.

What problems have you found with the debian csoundac packages? I'd be
glad to hear about them so (if possible) I can fix them.

Not that I want to start a distro flame here, but Ubuntu has broken
csound before (the python parts at least). To the best of my knowledge,
I have not yet borked csound on debian.

--
Saludos,
Felipe Sateler


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http://www.akjmusic.com
http://www.untwelve.org


Date2010-08-28 03:07
FromDave Phillips
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lua and csound on Ubuntu
Aaron Krister Johnson wrote:

> ...Ubuntu has also made some really poor choices of default realtime 
> kernel versions. I know Dave Phillips has commented on this before...

However, I'm now using Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid) on two of my three systems 
here, with the realtime kernel. IMO Ubuntu got better after the 9.x stuff.

Like yourself, I compile Csound to my specifications. I've had no 
trouble building it under Lucid on either box.

Best,

dp



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Date2010-08-28 04:42
FromBrian Redfern
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lua and csound on Ubuntu
Debian works perfectly, the problem is with the newest version of
Lubuntu, I'm moving off of Lubuntu and onto straight debian with an
lxde desktop, now that I figured out how to build my own kernel from
source and install it from my own .deb package.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
> On 27/08/10 20:11, Brian Redfern wrote:
>> It turns out on lubuntu gcc is broken, so  I can't recompile. So I'm
>> switching to minimal debian and then compiling everything, including
>> the kernel from scratch, its the only way to really have a totally
>> fine tuned linux csound, since no distro seems to support all the cool
>> features such as CsoundAC "out of the box." I'm working for the
>> company that develops the indamixx commercial distro for musicians.
>> Right now they don't even support csound, but I convinced the CEO that
>> we can't leave csound out, even if it seems obscure to some people
>> because its just way too powerful.
>
> What problems have you found with the debian csoundac packages? I'd be
> glad to hear about them so (if possible) I can fix them.
>
> Not that I want to start a distro flame here, but Ubuntu has broken
> csound before (the python parts at least). To the best of my knowledge,
> I have not yet borked csound on debian.
>
> --
> Saludos,
> Felipe Sateler
>
>
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>


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