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[Csnd] For Bobro

Date2011-03-20 03:48
FromAaron Krister Johnson
Subject[Csnd] For Bobro
Hi all,

I'm cross-posting this to the 2 major tuning lists on yahoo (MMM, tuning) as well as the csound list because I thought it might be of interest to both audiences. Sorry in advance for the duplicates for those who subscribe to both....

This is a total egghead piece. I wouldn't try to use it to seduce any ladies or anything. It does seem to create a distinct mood that I find pleasant anyway. We've been discussing serialism on the MakeMicroMusic list a bit, and how he avoidance of tonal harmony might be better served by EDOs like 11 or 13, etc. that have poor representations of the lower, stronger overtones. Gene Ward Smith advocated for 14edo by in essence daring someone to write something serial-ish for it.

I've never been all that fond of (most) serially composed music, though I've some colleagues who have done real well by it, but it was good fun to give it my (pseudo) first shot. Technically, it's not at all strict serialism in this piece, but more a technique of using an 'abstract row' of motivic material as a recurrent ostinato (perhaps I'll try a stricter example later, but onward....). I can say more if anyone's interested, but for now, those that listen, I'd be curious what you hear...

I used my own 'microcsound' (article in Csound journal coming up soon, hopefully...) which of course is a front-end for writing score-files in what may be the most killer sound app of all time....so without further ado:

http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/for_bobro.mp3

Ok, folks, let's hear *your* quick and dirty neo-2nd Viennese experiments!

Best,
AKJ

--
Aaron Krister Johnson
http://www.akjmusic.com
http://www.untwelve.org


Date2011-03-21 07:24
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: [Csnd] For Bobro
Thanks for sharing, Aaron.
It's an interesting take on serialism, and the series has some quite
clear features that makes it easy to follow. Personally, I think it
might have been better with less (strict) repetitions, as the series
itself has these features that won't let you get lost. The rhythmic
phrasing is a little bit stiff in my opinion, maybe this could be
developed more (or avoided more, the middle route is a bit
inconclusive, to me).  All best, and looking forward tro hear more.
Oeyvind

2011/3/20 Aaron Krister Johnson :
> Hi all,
>
> I'm cross-posting this to the 2 major tuning lists on yahoo (MMM, tuning) as
> well as the csound list because I thought it might be of interest to both
> audiences. Sorry in advance for the duplicates for those who subscribe to
> both....
>
> This is a total egghead piece. I wouldn't try to use it to seduce any ladies
> or anything. It does seem to create a distinct mood that I find pleasant
> anyway. We've been discussing serialism on the MakeMicroMusic list a bit,
> and how he avoidance of tonal harmony might be better served by EDOs like 11
> or 13, etc. that have poor representations of the lower, stronger overtones.
> Gene Ward Smith advocated for 14edo by in essence daring someone to write
> something serial-ish for it.
>
> I've never been all that fond of (most) serially composed music, though I've
> some colleagues who have done real well by it, but it was good fun to give
> it my (pseudo) first shot. Technically, it's not at all strict serialism in
> this piece, but more a technique of using an 'abstract row' of motivic
> material as a recurrent ostinato (perhaps I'll try a stricter example later,
> but onward....). I can say more if anyone's interested, but for now, those
> that listen, I'd be curious what you hear...
>
> I used my own 'microcsound' (article in Csound journal coming up soon,
> hopefully...) which of course is a front-end for writing score-files in what
> may be the most killer sound app of all time....so without further ado:
>
> http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/for_bobro.mp3
>
> Ok, folks, let's hear *your* quick and dirty neo-2nd Viennese experiments!
>
> Best,
> AKJ
>
> --
> Aaron Krister Johnson
> http://www.akjmusic.com
> http://www.untwelve.org
>
>


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Date2011-03-21 16:15
FromAaron Krister Johnson
SubjectRe: [Csnd] For Bobro
Thanks for the listen and comments.

Surely this piece can use more "massaging"...it was sort of a one-off proof of concept more than anything....the rhythm has to be 'stiff', I suppose, for what it is---note values are 1/24, 2/24, 3/24, 5/24, 8/24, 1/32, 2/32, 3/32, 5/32 and 8/32...a Nancarrowish thing :) It's very mechanical music inspired in that way.

This is not my usual direction, so it's a bit green, though, for sure.

Best,
AKJ

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:24 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> wrote:
Thanks for sharing, Aaron.
It's an interesting take on serialism, and the series has some quite
clear features that makes it easy to follow. Personally, I think it
might have been better with less (strict) repetitions, as the series
itself has these features that won't let you get lost. The rhythmic
phrasing is a little bit stiff in my opinion, maybe this could be
developed more (or avoided more, the middle route is a bit
inconclusive, to me).  All best, and looking forward tro hear more.
Oeyvind

2011/3/20 Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@akjmusic.com>:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm cross-posting this to the 2 major tuning lists on yahoo (MMM, tuning) as
> well as the csound list because I thought it might be of interest to both
> audiences. Sorry in advance for the duplicates for those who subscribe to
> both....
>
> This is a total egghead piece. I wouldn't try to use it to seduce any ladies
> or anything. It does seem to create a distinct mood that I find pleasant
> anyway. We've been discussing serialism on the MakeMicroMusic list a bit,
> and how he avoidance of tonal harmony might be better served by EDOs like 11
> or 13, etc. that have poor representations of the lower, stronger overtones.
> Gene Ward Smith advocated for 14edo by in essence daring someone to write
> something serial-ish for it.
>
> I've never been all that fond of (most) serially composed music, though I've
> some colleagues who have done real well by it, but it was good fun to give
> it my (pseudo) first shot. Technically, it's not at all strict serialism in
> this piece, but more a technique of using an 'abstract row' of motivic
> material as a recurrent ostinato (perhaps I'll try a stricter example later,
> but onward....). I can say more if anyone's interested, but for now, those
> that listen, I'd be curious what you hear...
>
> I used my own 'microcsound' (article in Csound journal coming up soon,
> hopefully...) which of course is a front-end for writing score-files in what
> may be the most killer sound app of all time....so without further ado:
>
> http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/for_bobro.mp3
>
> Ok, folks, let's hear *your* quick and dirty neo-2nd Viennese experiments!
>
> Best,
> AKJ
>
> --
> Aaron Krister Johnson
> http://www.akjmusic.com
> http://www.untwelve.org
>
>


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--
Aaron Krister Johnson
http://www.akjmusic.com
http://www.untwelve.org