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[Csnd] statevar filter

Date2011-03-07 19:46
Frompeiman khosravi
Subject[Csnd] statevar filter
Just wanted to say that I did not know about this opcode until today.
It sounds amazing! I'm so glad to have found it.

Thanks Victor.

Best,

Peiman


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Date2011-03-07 20:03
FromAaron Krister Johnson
SubjectRe: [Csnd] statevar filter
It is nice, and it's nice to have a general filter available whose global filter characteristics is available as a variable parameter!

AKJ

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:46 PM, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Just wanted to say that I did not know about this opcode until today.
It sounds amazing! I'm so glad to have found it.

Thanks Victor.

Best,

Peiman


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Date2011-03-07 20:52
FromMark Van Peteghem
SubjectRe: [Csnd] statevar filter
I've seen it before in the manual, but I thought it's only useful if you 
need all four filters, or if you need somewhat better quality. Is it 
really that much better?

Mark

peiman khosravi wrote:
> Just wanted to say that I did not know about this opcode until today.
> It sounds amazing! I'm so glad to have found it.
>
> Thanks Victor.
>
> Best,
>
> Peiman



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Date2011-03-07 21:00
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] statevar filter
You took the text out of my finger tips. Surely it'll only add
overhead unless you actually need all four filters? Ok, overhead is
exaggerating it a little but I guess you know what I mean..

Rory.



On 7 March 2011 20:52, Mark Van Peteghem  wrote:
> I've seen it before in the manual, but I thought it's only useful if you
> need all four filters, or if you need somewhat better quality. Is it really
> that much better?
>
> Mark
>
> peiman khosravi wrote:
>>
>> Just wanted to say that I did not know about this opcode until today.
>> It sounds amazing! I'm so glad to have found it.
>>
>> Thanks Victor.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Peiman
>
>
>
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> csound"
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Date2011-03-07 22:38
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Csnd] statevar filter
I am not running out of CPU here.

And I do need all four filters. But honestly, I don't think the
overhead is that much. It does sound so superior to the other filters
I tried in Csound (must be the oversampling).

P


On 7 March 2011 21:00, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> You took the text out of my finger tips. Surely it'll only add
> overhead unless you actually need all four filters? Ok, overhead is
> exaggerating it a little but I guess you know what I mean..
>
> Rory.
>
>
>
> On 7 March 2011 20:52, Mark Van Peteghem  wrote:
>> I've seen it before in the manual, but I thought it's only useful if you
>> need all four filters, or if you need somewhat better quality. Is it really
>> that much better?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> peiman khosravi wrote:
>>>
>>> Just wanted to say that I did not know about this opcode until today.
>>> It sounds amazing! I'm so glad to have found it.
>>>
>>> Thanks Victor.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Peiman
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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Date2011-03-07 22:55
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] statevar filter
To be honest, I didn't expect the overhead to be at all noticeable.
Your remark that it sounds better than the other filters you've tried
in Csound intrigues me. I'm assuming you tried your fair share of
Csound filters!

On 7 March 2011 22:38, peiman khosravi  wrote:
> I am not running out of CPU here.
>
> And I do need all four filters. But honestly, I don't think the
> overhead is that much. It does sound so superior to the other filters
> I tried in Csound (must be the oversampling).
>
> P
>
>
> On 7 March 2011 21:00, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> You took the text out of my finger tips. Surely it'll only add
>> overhead unless you actually need all four filters? Ok, overhead is
>> exaggerating it a little but I guess you know what I mean..
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7 March 2011 20:52, Mark Van Peteghem  wrote:
>>> I've seen it before in the manual, but I thought it's only useful if you
>>> need all four filters, or if you need somewhat better quality. Is it really
>>> that much better?
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> peiman khosravi wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just wanted to say that I did not know about this opcode until today.
>>>> It sounds amazing! I'm so glad to have found it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Victor.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Peiman
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> csound"
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>
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Date2011-03-07 23:08
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Csnd] statevar filter
Well I am just judging by my ears and the very limited experience, and
of course the nature of the sounds that I am putting through the
filters and the manner in which I am changing the filter parameters. I
tried the following filters just today:

Butterworth filters
atone
svfilter
bqrez

I also really like svfilter. But it seems that statevar is more stable
for my purpose.

I would be interested to hear about other filters that I have missed
and that may give me similar results.

Thanks

P


On 7 March 2011 22:55, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> To be honest, I didn't expect the overhead to be at all noticeable.
> Your remark that it sounds better than the other filters you've tried
> in Csound intrigues me. I'm assuming you tried your fair share of
> Csound filters!
>
> On 7 March 2011 22:38, peiman khosravi  wrote:
>> I am not running out of CPU here.
>>
>> And I do need all four filters. But honestly, I don't think the
>> overhead is that much. It does sound so superior to the other filters
>> I tried in Csound (must be the oversampling).
>>
>> P
>>
>>
>> On 7 March 2011 21:00, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> You took the text out of my finger tips. Surely it'll only add
>>> overhead unless you actually need all four filters? Ok, overhead is
>>> exaggerating it a little but I guess you know what I mean..
>>>
>>> Rory.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 March 2011 20:52, Mark Van Peteghem  wrote:
>>>> I've seen it before in the manual, but I thought it's only useful if you
>>>> need all four filters, or if you need somewhat better quality. Is it really
>>>> that much better?
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> peiman khosravi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just wanted to say that I did not know about this opcode until today.
>>>>> It sounds amazing! I'm so glad to have found it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Victor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Peiman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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Date2011-03-08 08:46
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: [Csnd] statevar filter
I agree that statevar sounds good, as does svfilter.
As each filter type has it's own characteristic sound, it might be a
good idea to revisit the different filter types now and then.
But of course one will more often come back to one's favourites.
The one safe bet for me is the lpf18, as it's warm and resonant with a
nice distortion.

best
Oeyvind


2011/3/8 peiman khosravi :
> Well I am just judging by my ears and the very limited experience, and
> of course the nature of the sounds that I am putting through the
> filters and the manner in which I am changing the filter parameters. I
> tried the following filters just today:
>
> Butterworth filters
> atone
> svfilter
> bqrez
>
> I also really like svfilter. But it seems that statevar is more stable
> for my purpose.
>
> I would be interested to hear about other filters that I have missed
> and that may give me similar results.
>
> Thanks
>
> P
>
>
> On 7 March 2011 22:55, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> To be honest, I didn't expect the overhead to be at all noticeable.
>> Your remark that it sounds better than the other filters you've tried
>> in Csound intrigues me. I'm assuming you tried your fair share of
>> Csound filters!
>>
>> On 7 March 2011 22:38, peiman khosravi  wrote:
>>> I am not running out of CPU here.
>>>
>>> And I do need all four filters. But honestly, I don't think the
>>> overhead is that much. It does sound so superior to the other filters
>>> I tried in Csound (must be the oversampling).
>>>
>>> P
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 March 2011 21:00, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>> You took the text out of my finger tips. Surely it'll only add
>>>> overhead unless you actually need all four filters? Ok, overhead is
>>>> exaggerating it a little but I guess you know what I mean..
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7 March 2011 20:52, Mark Van Peteghem  wrote:
>>>>> I've seen it before in the manual, but I thought it's only useful if you
>>>>> need all four filters, or if you need somewhat better quality. Is it really
>>>>> that much better?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> peiman khosravi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just wanted to say that I did not know about this opcode until today.
>>>>>> It sounds amazing! I'm so glad to have found it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Victor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peiman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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Date2011-03-08 21:01
FromMark Van Peteghem
SubjectRe: [Csnd] statevar filter
I'll give it a try then. I've examined a lot of other filters in CSound. 
I've read that the nice sound of analog synthesizers is due to their 
non-linearity, while most filters in CSound are linear. The only 
exceptions that I know are moogvcf, moogvcf2, moogladder and lpf18. I 
tried these to simulate the Korg monotron using a sketch posted here 
recently. I liked the moog filters most, lpf18 was in between these and 
linear filters, but none of them sounded as good as the real thing.

I shortly experimented with a free VST in another application, that did 
filtering with resonance on square and saw waveforms, which sounded 
better that the filters of CSound. Does this mean that CSound lacks a 
good non-linear filter? Or maybe I just didn't find the right 
parameters, although I tried a variety of parameters?

Mark

peiman khosravi wrote:
> Well I am just judging by my ears and the very limited experience, and
> of course the nature of the sounds that I am putting through the
> filters and the manner in which I am changing the filter parameters. I
> tried the following filters just today:
>
> Butterworth filters
> atone
> svfilter
> bqrez
>
> I also really like svfilter. But it seems that statevar is more stable
> for my purpose.
>
> I would be interested to hear about other filters that I have missed
> and that may give me similar results.
>
> Thanks
>
> P
>
>
> On 7 March 2011 22:55, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>   
>> To be honest, I didn't expect the overhead to be at all noticeable.
>> Your remark that it sounds better than the other filters you've tried
>> in Csound intrigues me. I'm assuming you tried your fair share of
>> Csound filters!
>>
>> On 7 March 2011 22:38, peiman khosravi  wrote:
>>     
>>> I am not running out of CPU here.
>>>
>>> And I do need all four filters. But honestly, I don't think the
>>> overhead is that much. It does sound so superior to the other filters
>>> I tried in Csound (must be the oversampling).
>>>
>>> P
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 March 2011 21:00, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>       
>>>> You took the text out of my finger tips. Surely it'll only add
>>>> overhead unless you actually need all four filters? Ok, overhead is
>>>> exaggerating it a little but I guess you know what I mean..
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7 March 2011 20:52, Mark Van Peteghem  wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> I've seen it before in the manual, but I thought it's only useful if you
>>>>> need all four filters, or if you need somewhat better quality. Is it really
>>>>> that much better?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> peiman khosravi wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Just wanted to say that I did not know about this opcode until today.
>>>>>> It sounds amazing! I'm so glad to have found it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Victor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peiman
>>>>>>             



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