Re: [Csnd] Old Analog Tape -> WAVs ?

Date	2012-04-05 02:23
From	"Partev Barr Sarkissian"
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Old Analog Tape -> WAVs ?
	.... oh, and here's the page on his site for tape baking, http://www.tangible-technology.com/tape/baking1.html Cheer, -Partev ====================================================== --- encino_man@netscape.com wrote: From: "Partev Barr Sarkissian" To: Subject: Re: [Csnd] Old Analog Tape -> WAVs ? Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:20:11 -0700 Ampex 456, if it's 1/2", it can can shed a little. Not as bad as some others. Contact Eddie Ciletti of Mix Magazine's "Tech Files". He has a whole thing about baking tapes, a chart for tape types and widths, and how much time to bake it for, along with some pre-prep stuff to know. It's pretty good,... www.tangible-technology.com/ ... tell him I sent you. He knows his stuff and he's pretty cool. Cheers, -Partev ============================================================ --- PeterArmstrong@aya.yale.edu wrote: From: PMA To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Csnd] Old Analog Tape -> WAVs ? Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:04:28 -0400 Thank you Rich! (And the first part I should have thought of myself.) Pete richard duckworth wrote: > If you sit in on the session, you can give the engineer instructions. S/he can >then automate your decisions into the workstation and you can bring away > the mix you desire. If the tape is shedding oxide, it'll need to be baked. If it's > Ampex 456 from the '80's, it won't be shedding. Don't try baking it yourself. > > Rich Duckworth > Lecturer in Music Technology > Department of Music > House 5 > Trinity College > Dublin 2 > Ireland > > > Tel 353 1 896 1500 > > > It's the most devastating moment in a young mans life, when he quite reasonably says to himself, "I shall never play The Dane!" > > > ________________________________ > From: PMA > To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk > Sent: Wednesday, 28 March 2012, 18:54 > Subject: [Csnd] Old Analog Tape -> WAVs ? > > Hi List. > > This is off possibly any Csound topic, so I forgive non-response in advance. > > I've unearthed here a tape, reel-to-reel analog audio, of a piano recital of > mine from 1981 (works of Busoni, Stravinsky, Webern, Ross Lee Finney). > I want to have it digitized -- as a WAV file per movement -- in order then > to make MP3s for uploading (soon or eventually) to my page at IMSLP. > > But from painful experience, I don't trust just any audio engineer -- having > of course well-preserved& functioning analog equipment -- to refrain from > overriding my musical decisions with his own (say, "turning up" a left-hand > accompaniment whose volume I'd spent a zillion practice hours subduing). > > Any thoughts you may have on this -- what sort of specialist to search out, > what source might best predict quality, etc. -- I'd much appreciate. > > Thanks, > PMA > > P.S. How brittle this 1/4-inch tape may be, I have no idea. It is still > snugly wound, certainly, having been played back never once. > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" _____________________________________________________________ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" _____________________________________________________________ Netscape. Just the Net You Need.

Date	2012-04-05 02:33
From	Jacob Joaquin
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Old Analog Tape -> WAVs ?
	The original TRON soundtrack (one of my personal favorites) had to be baked. Wendy Carlos told the story of it on her website: http://www.wendycarlos.com/newsold.html#baketape On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Partev Barr Sarkissian wrote: > .... oh, and here's the page on his site for tape baking, > > > http://www.tangible-technology.com/tape/baking1.html > > > > Cheer, > -Partev > > ====================================================== > > --- encino_man@netscape.com wrote: > > From: "Partev Barr Sarkissian" > To: > Subject: Re: [Csnd] Old Analog Tape -> WAVs ? > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:20:11 -0700 > > Ampex 456, if it's 1/2", it can can shed a little. Not as bad as some > others. Contact Eddie Ciletti of Mix Magazine's "Tech Files". He has > a whole thing about baking tapes, a chart for tape types and widths, > and how much time to bake it for, along with some pre-prep stuff to > know. It's pretty good,... > > www.tangible-technology.com/ > > ... tell him I sent you. He knows his stuff and he's pretty cool. > > > Cheers, > -Partev > > > ============================================================ > > > > > --- PeterArmstrong@aya.yale.edu wrote: > > From: PMA > To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk > Subject: Re: [Csnd] Old Analog Tape -> WAVs ? > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:04:28 -0400 > > Thank you Rich! (And the first part I should have thought of myself.) > Pete > > richard duckworth wrote: >> If you sit in on the session, you can give the engineer instructions. S/he can >>then automate your decisions into the workstation and you can bring away >> the mix you desire. If the tape is shedding oxide, it'll need to be baked. If it's >> Ampex 456 from the '80's, it won't be shedding. Don't try baking it > yourself. >> >> Rich Duckworth >> Lecturer in Music Technology >> Department of Music >> House 5 >> Trinity College >> Dublin 2 >> Ireland >> >> >> Tel 353 1 896 1500 >> >> >> It's the most devastating moment in a young mans life, when he quite reasonably says to himself, "I shall never play The Dane!" >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: PMA >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >> Sent: Wednesday, 28 March 2012, 18:54 >> Subject: [Csnd] Old Analog Tape -> WAVs ? >> >> Hi List. >> >> This is off possibly any Csound topic, so I forgive non-response in advance. >> >> I've unearthed here a tape, reel-to-reel analog audio, of a piano recital of >> mine from 1981 (works of Busoni, Stravinsky, Webern, Ross Lee Finney). >> I want to have it digitized -- as a WAV file per movement -- in order then >> to make MP3s for uploading (soon or eventually) to my page at IMSLP. >> >> But from painful experience, I don't trust just any audio engineer -- having >> of course well-preserved& functioning analog equipment -- to refrain from >> overriding my musical decisions with his own (say, "turning up" a left-hand >> accompaniment whose volume I'd spent a zillion practice hours subduing). >> >> Any thoughts you may have on this -- what sort of specialist to search out, >> what source might best predict quality, etc. -- I'd much appreciate. >> >> Thanks, >> PMA >> >> P.S. How brittle this 1/4-inch tape may be, I have no idea. It is still >> snugly wound, certainly, having been played back never once. >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" >> >> > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > -- codehop.com \| #code #art #music

Date	2012-04-05 14:43
From	PMA
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Old Analog Tape -> WAVs ?
	Hi Partev. Thanks for these! Robert Carl and Justin Kurtz invited me to Hartt's recording lab to psych this thing out. I went in yesterday. The tape, some- how in perfect shape, turned out to be my 1/4" copy of the 1/2" master from a 1978(!) studio recording of Busoni's 6 sonatinas. So! Now I have way-better WAV files to replace those, made from stringy battered cassettes, that I'd first posted to IMSLP. True, I regreted not hearing also the Stravinsky/Webern/Finney that I've no other tapes of, but -- well, maybe in the next life.... Thanks again -- Richard too -- for you're help. Best, Peter P.S. The '78 engineer in NY was David Hancock. I felt an impulse yesterday to phone -- to tell him -- but then remembered that he died some years ago. Partev Barr Sarkissian wrote: > .... oh, and here's the page on his site for tape baking, > > http://www.tangible-technology.com/tape/baking1.html > > > Cheer, > -Partev > > ====================================================== > > --- encino_man@netscape.com wrote: > > From: "Partev Barr Sarkissian" > To: > Subject: Re: [Csnd] Old Analog Tape -> WAVs ? > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:20:11 -0700 > > Ampex 456, if it's 1/2", it can can shed a little. Not as bad as some > others. Contact Eddie Ciletti of Mix Magazine's "Tech Files". He has > a whole thing about baking tapes, a chart for tape types and widths, > and how much time to bake it for, along with some pre-prep stuff to > know. It's pretty good,... > > www.tangible-technology.com/ > > ... tell him I sent you. He knows his stuff and he's pretty cool. > > > Cheers, > -Partev > > > ============================================================ > > > > > --- PeterArmstrong@aya.yale.edu wrote: > > From: PMA > To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk > Subject: Re: [Csnd] Old Analog Tape -> WAVs ? > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:04:28 -0400 > > Thank you Rich! (And the first part I should have thought of myself.) > Pete > > richard duckworth wrote: >> If you sit in on the session, you can give the engineer instructions. S/he can >> then automate your decisions into the workstation and you can bring away >> the mix you desire. If the tape is shedding oxide, it'll need to be baked. If it's >> Ampex 456 from the '80's, it won't be shedding. Don't try baking it > yourself. >> >> Rich Duckworth >> Lecturer in Music Technology >> Department of Music >> House 5 >> Trinity College >> Dublin 2 >> Ireland >> >> >> Tel 353 1 896 1500 >> >> >> It's the most devastating moment in a young mans life, when he quite reasonably says to himself, "I shall never play The Dane!" >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: PMA >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >> Sent: Wednesday, 28 March 2012, 18:54 >> Subject: [Csnd] Old Analog Tape -> WAVs ? >> >> Hi List. >> >> This is off possibly any Csound topic, so I forgive non-response in advance. >> >> I've unearthed here a tape, reel-to-reel analog audio, of a piano recital of >> mine from 1981 (works of Busoni, Stravinsky, Webern, Ross Lee Finney). >> I want to have it digitized -- as a WAV file per movement -- in order then >> to make MP3s for uploading (soon or eventually) to my page at IMSLP. >> >> But from painful experience, I don't trust just any audio engineer -- having >> of course well-preserved& functioning analog equipment -- to refrain from >> overriding my musical decisions with his own (say, "turning up" a left-hand >> accompaniment whose volume I'd spent a zillion practice hours subduing). >> >> Any thoughts you may have on this -- what sort of specialist to search out, >> what source might best predict quality, etc. -- I'd much appreciate. >> >> Thanks, >> PMA >> >> P.S. How brittle this 1/4-inch tape may be, I have no idea. It is still >> snugly wound, certainly, having been played back never once. >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" >> >> > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > >