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[Csnd] x86 or x64 (or x32)? : My computer, OS and Csound

Date2012-04-16 16:52
FromCacophony7
Subject[Csnd] x86 or x64 (or x32)? : My computer, OS and Csound
OK, I'm more than partially confused.

I think my computer and/or processor is an x86 but I'm not sure.
My Windows 7 is 32-bit (can I have 64?)
My Csound is version 5.17 (double samples) and I assume that means 64-bit.

...How can I be running a 64-bit Csound if my OS is only 32?
does an x86 have 64-bit capability or 32 ONLY?

I'm using a laptop by Acer and it's an Aspire 5738-6252.
The SNID # somewhere on the back of the laptop is 00605129720.

to much information? please help the confused one.

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Date2012-04-16 16:59
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] x86 or x64 (or x32)? : My computer, OS and Csound
The 64-bit has nothing to do with the OS. It merely shows the
precision of the audio samples Csound uses internally. The better the
precision the better the quality. In the past using the doubles
version of Csound in real time caused minor performance issues but
these days I don't think it's an issue.

On 16 April 2012 16:52, Cacophony7  wrote:
> OK, I'm more than partially confused.
>
> I think my computer and/or processor is an x86 but I'm not sure.
> My Windows 7 is 32-bit (can I have 64?)
> My Csound is version 5.17 (double samples) and I assume that means 64-bit.
>
> ...How can I be running a 64-bit Csound if my OS is only 32?
> does an x86 have 64-bit capability or 32 ONLY?
>
> I'm using a laptop by Acer and it's an Aspire 5738-6252.
> The SNID # somewhere on the back of the laptop is 00605129720.
>
> to much information? please help the confused one.
>
> --
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>
>
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Date2012-04-16 16:59
FromTarmo Johannes
SubjectRe: [Csnd] x86 or x64 (or x32)? : My computer, OS and Csound
Hi,

double samples means that csound uses 64-bit floating point number for its 
inner calculations, it is not bound to software architcture. So it can run 
perfectyl on 32bit systems.

tarmo


On Monday 16 April 2012 08:52:19 Cacophony7 wrote:
> OK, I'm more than partially confused.
> 
> I think my computer and/or processor is an x86 but I'm not sure.
> My Windows 7 is 32-bit (can I have 64?)
> My Csound is version 5.17 (double samples) and I assume that means 64-bit.
> 
> ...How can I be running a 64-bit Csound if my OS is only 32?
> does an x86 have 64-bit capability or 32 ONLY?
> 
> I'm using a laptop by Acer and it's an Aspire 5738-6252.
> The SNID # somewhere on the back of the laptop is 00605129720.
> 
> to much information? please help the confused one.
> 
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/x86-or-x64-or-x32-My-computer-OS-and-Cs
> ound-tp5644228p5644228.html Sent from the Csound - General mailing list
> archive at Nabble.com.
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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> csound"

Date2012-04-16 18:05
FromAdam Puckett
SubjectRe: [Csnd] x86 or x64 (or x32)? : My computer, OS and Csound
In the case of precision not being bound to architecture, why not use
something like mpfr to get more precision?

On 4/16/12, Tarmo Johannes  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> double samples means that csound uses 64-bit floating point number for its
> inner calculations, it is not bound to software architcture. So it can run
> perfectyl on 32bit systems.
>
> tarmo
>
>
> On Monday 16 April 2012 08:52:19 Cacophony7 wrote:
>> OK, I'm more than partially confused.
>>
>> I think my computer and/or processor is an x86 but I'm not sure.
>> My Windows 7 is 32-bit (can I have 64?)
>> My Csound is version 5.17 (double samples) and I assume that means 64-bit.
>>
>> ...How can I be running a 64-bit Csound if my OS is only 32?
>> does an x86 have 64-bit capability or 32 ONLY?
>>
>> I'm using a laptop by Acer and it's an Aspire 5738-6252.
>> The SNID # somewhere on the back of the laptop is 00605129720.
>>
>> to much information? please help the confused one.
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/x86-or-x64-or-x32-My-computer-OS-and-Cs
>> ound-tp5644228p5644228.html Sent from the Csound - General mailing list
>> archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>> csound"
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>

Date2012-04-16 19:03
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Csnd] x86 or x64 (or x32)? : My computer, OS and Csound
Double precision floating point arithmetic is computed in the hardware
floating point unit part of the CPU, which is extremely efficient. I
would be quite surprised if MPFR were faster than the FPU. At any rate
it would require changing practically every line of Csound code.

Regards,
Mike

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Adam Puckett  wrote:
> In the case of precision not being bound to architecture, why not use
> something like mpfr to get more precision?
>
> On 4/16/12, Tarmo Johannes  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> double samples means that csound uses 64-bit floating point number for its
>> inner calculations, it is not bound to software architcture. So it can run
>> perfectyl on 32bit systems.
>>
>> tarmo
>>
>>
>> On Monday 16 April 2012 08:52:19 Cacophony7 wrote:
>>> OK, I'm more than partially confused.
>>>
>>> I think my computer and/or processor is an x86 but I'm not sure.
>>> My Windows 7 is 32-bit (can I have 64?)
>>> My Csound is version 5.17 (double samples) and I assume that means 64-bit.
>>>
>>> ...How can I be running a 64-bit Csound if my OS is only 32?
>>> does an x86 have 64-bit capability or 32 ONLY?
>>>
>>> I'm using a laptop by Acer and it's an Aspire 5738-6252.
>>> The SNID # somewhere on the back of the laptop is 00605129720.
>>>
>>> to much information? please help the confused one.
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/x86-or-x64-or-x32-My-computer-OS-and-Cs
>>> ound-tp5644228p5644228.html Sent from the Csound - General mailing list
>>> archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>> csound"
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>> csound"
>>
>>
>
>
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Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com


Date2012-04-16 20:12
FromAdam Puckett
SubjectRe: [Csnd] x86 or x64 (or x32)? : My computer, OS and Csound
Sorry. I just figured that since MPFR is used to build GCC that it
would be great for Csound.

On 4/16/12, Michael Gogins  wrote:
> Double precision floating point arithmetic is computed in the hardware
> floating point unit part of the CPU, which is extremely efficient. I
> would be quite surprised if MPFR were faster than the FPU. At any rate
> it would require changing practically every line of Csound code.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Adam Puckett 
> wrote:
>> In the case of precision not being bound to architecture, why not use
>> something like mpfr to get more precision?
>>
>> On 4/16/12, Tarmo Johannes  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> double samples means that csound uses 64-bit floating point number for
>>> its
>>> inner calculations, it is not bound to software architcture. So it can
>>> run
>>> perfectyl on 32bit systems.
>>>
>>> tarmo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday 16 April 2012 08:52:19 Cacophony7 wrote:
>>>> OK, I'm more than partially confused.
>>>>
>>>> I think my computer and/or processor is an x86 but I'm not sure.
>>>> My Windows 7 is 32-bit (can I have 64?)
>>>> My Csound is version 5.17 (double samples) and I assume that means
>>>> 64-bit.
>>>>
>>>> ...How can I be running a 64-bit Csound if my OS is only 32?
>>>> does an x86 have 64-bit capability or 32 ONLY?
>>>>
>>>> I'm using a laptop by Acer and it's an Aspire 5738-6252.
>>>> The SNID # somewhere on the back of the laptop is 00605129720.
>>>>
>>>> to much information? please help the confused one.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context:
>>>> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/x86-or-x64-or-x32-My-computer-OS-and-Cs
>>>> ound-tp5644228p5644228.html Sent from the Csound - General mailing list
>>>> archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://www.michael-gogins.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
>
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