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[Csnd] install versions and compatibilities

Date2013-06-20 05:39
FromDavidWorrall
Subject[Csnd] install versions and compatibilities
I can't quite believe that I'm writing this, but 
... I've just spent a day trying to work out how to configure some csound/python systems. 

I failed.

Can someone please tell me, or better still point me to documentation on, where I can get the latest stable installers for versions of csnd5 (and hopefully csnd6) that will install on the three platforms and which pythons + versions I need for them?

Does one have to move the csound libraries to the python Framework(s)?
And in terms of *nix shells, 
Thanks,
David



_____________________________________________
Dr David Worrall
Experimental Composer, Polymedia
Adjunct Senior Research Fellow, Australian National University
Board Member, International Community for Auditory Display
Regional Editor, Organised Sound (CUP) 
worrall.avatar.com.au sonification.com.au

Date2013-06-20 08:39
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] install versions and compatibilities
On OSX, Csound 5.19 & (Mac)Python 2.7 should work well.
Csound RC3 & (Mac)Python 2.7 should also work fine. Both versions of Csound can coexist in the same machine.
I have been using it in the IPython notebook and it's great.

Steven has a homebrew recipe that can be used to build csound 6 (+ python module) from sources.

Victor
On 20 Jun 2013, at 05:39, DavidWorrall wrote:

I can't quite believe that I'm writing this, but 
... I've just spent a day trying to work out how to configure some csound/python systems. 

I failed.

Can someone please tell me, or better still point me to documentation on, where I can get the latest stable installers for versions of csnd5 (and hopefully csnd6) that will install on the three platforms and which pythons + versions I need for them?

Does one have to move the csound libraries to the python Framework(s)?
And in terms of *nix shells, 
Thanks,
David



_____________________________________________
Dr David Worrall
Experimental Composer, Polymedia
Adjunct Senior Research Fellow, Australian National University
Board Member, International Community for Auditory Display
Regional Editor, Organised Sound (CUP) 
worrall.avatar.com.au sonification.com.au


Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie



Date2013-06-20 12:18
FromDavidWorrall
SubjectRe: [Csnd] install versions and compatibilities
Thanks Victor,

I'm about to do a workshop on the other side of the world and I need to solve this problem for Linux and windows as well.

On 20/06/2013, at 5:39 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
On OSX, Csound 5.19 & (Mac)Python 2.7 should work well.
Do you mean the 2.7 version from here, say:
that will presumably install in /Library/Frameworks.... rather than /System/Library/Frameworks....
(the macpython site (http://homepages.cwi.nl/~jack/macpython/l)  seems to have deprecated)

Csound RC3 & (Mac)Python 2.7 should also work fine. Both versions of Csound can coexist in the same machine.
I have been using it in the IPython notebook and it's great.

and the .dmg installs will be found by the python, above?
Steven has a homebrew recipe that can be used to build csound 6 (+ python module) from sources.

Victor

Steven Yi?  I'll try and find a thread in this or the dev list.... 
regards,
David

On 20 Jun 2013, at 05:39, DavidWorrall wrote:

I can't quite believe that I'm writing this, but 
... I've just spent a day trying to work out how to configure some csound/python systems. 

I failed.

Can someone please tell me, or better still point me to documentation on, where I can get the latest stable installers for versions of csnd5 (and hopefully csnd6) that will install on the three platforms and which pythons + versions I need for them?

Does one have to move the csound libraries to the python Framework(s)?
And in terms of *nix shells, 
Thanks,
David



_____________________________________________
Dr David Worrall
Experimental Composer, Polymedia
Adjunct Senior Research Fellow, Australian National University
Board Member, International Community for Auditory Display
Regional Editor, Organised Sound (CUP) 
worrall.avatar.com.au sonification.com.au


Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie




________________________________________________
Dr David Worrall.
- Experimental Polymedia:   worrall.avatar.com.au
- Sonification: www.sonification.com.au
- Education for Financial Independence: www.mindthemarkets.com.au







Date2013-06-20 12:29
Fromjpff@cs.bath.ac.uk
SubjectRe: [Csnd] install versions and compatibilities
> Thanks Victor,
>
> I'm about to do a workshop on the other side of the world and I need to
> solve this problem for Linux and windows as well.
>

For Linux it depends on which packaging or build.  For my SuSE build and
rpm it uses python 2.7 (not that I ever use it).  For Debian I suspect 2.6
but I do not know -- Filippe would know

Mike knows about theWindows situation.
Date2013-06-20 12:46
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] install versions and compatibilities
yes, the version from python.org, what it used to be "macpython". It should just be a matter of installing Csound on top of
a Python installation, or vice-versa. The Csound modules go into /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages.

On Linux, I guess you can use the stock distro Python 2.7, then for Csound5 install all the packages, if they exist for your
distro, or build from sources with scons and run install.py.

Csound 6 is still yet to be fully released, but RC3 can be built from sources with cmake.

On Windows, there is a binary distro of both Csound 5.19 and Csound 6 RC3 (I think), and you just install Python 2.7 for
windows before running the windows csound installer.

Victor

On 20 Jun 2013, at 12:18, DavidWorrall wrote:

Thanks Victor,

I'm about to do a workshop on the other side of the world and I need to solve this problem for Linux and windows as well.

On 20/06/2013, at 5:39 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
On OSX, Csound 5.19 & (Mac)Python 2.7 should work well.
Do you mean the 2.7 version from here, say:
that will presumably install in /Library/Frameworks.... rather than /System/Library/Frameworks....
(the macpython site (http://homepages.cwi.nl/~jack/macpython/l)  seems to have deprecated)

Csound RC3 & (Mac)Python 2.7 should also work fine. Both versions of Csound can coexist in the same machine.
I have been using it in the IPython notebook and it's great.

and the .dmg installs will be found by the python, above?
Steven has a homebrew recipe that can be used to build csound 6 (+ python module) from sources.

Victor

Steven Yi?  I'll try and find a thread in this or the dev list.... 
regards,
David

On 20 Jun 2013, at 05:39, DavidWorrall wrote:

I can't quite believe that I'm writing this, but 
... I've just spent a day trying to work out how to configure some csound/python systems. 

I failed.

Can someone please tell me, or better still point me to documentation on, where I can get the latest stable installers for versions of csnd5 (and hopefully csnd6) that will install on the three platforms and which pythons + versions I need for them?

Does one have to move the csound libraries to the python Framework(s)?
And in terms of *nix shells, 
Thanks,
David



_____________________________________________
Dr David Worrall
Experimental Composer, Polymedia
Adjunct Senior Research Fellow, Australian National University
Board Member, International Community for Auditory Display
Regional Editor, Organised Sound (CUP) 
worrall.avatar.com.au sonification.com.au


Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie




________________________________________________
Dr David Worrall.
- Experimental Polymedia:   worrall.avatar.com.au
- Sonification: www.sonification.com.au
- Education for Financial Independence: www.mindthemarkets.com.au








Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie



Date2013-06-20 13:16
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Csnd] install versions and compatibilities
That's correct, and there is a version of the Windows installer for 6.00.rc3 on SourceForge. I think this is a great version of Csound. I'm only waiting for CsoundQt and Cabbage...

Regards,
Mike


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Irreducible Productions
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On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
yes, the version from python.org, what it used to be "macpython". It should just be a matter of installing Csound on top of
a Python installation, or vice-versa. The Csound modules go into /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages.

On Linux, I guess you can use the stock distro Python 2.7, then for Csound5 install all the packages, if they exist for your
distro, or build from sources with scons and run install.py.

Csound 6 is still yet to be fully released, but RC3 can be built from sources with cmake.

On Windows, there is a binary distro of both Csound 5.19 and Csound 6 RC3 (I think), and you just install Python 2.7 for
windows before running the windows csound installer.

Victor

On 20 Jun 2013, at 12:18, DavidWorrall wrote:

Thanks Victor,

I'm about to do a workshop on the other side of the world and I need to solve this problem for Linux and windows as well.

On 20/06/2013, at 5:39 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
On OSX, Csound 5.19 & (Mac)Python 2.7 should work well.
Do you mean the 2.7 version from here, say:
that will presumably install in /Library/Frameworks.... rather than /System/Library/Frameworks....
(the macpython site (http://homepages.cwi.nl/~jack/macpython/l)  seems to have deprecated)

Csound RC3 & (Mac)Python 2.7 should also work fine. Both versions of Csound can coexist in the same machine.
I have been using it in the IPython notebook and it's great.

and the .dmg installs will be found by the python, above?
Steven has a homebrew recipe that can be used to build csound 6 (+ python module) from sources.

Victor

Steven Yi?  I'll try and find a thread in this or the dev list.... 
regards,
David

On 20 Jun 2013, at 05:39, DavidWorrall wrote:

I can't quite believe that I'm writing this, but 
... I've just spent a day trying to work out how to configure some csound/python systems. 

I failed.

Can someone please tell me, or better still point me to documentation on, where I can get the latest stable installers for versions of csnd5 (and hopefully csnd6) that will install on the three platforms and which pythons + versions I need for them?

Does one have to move the csound libraries to the python Framework(s)?
And in terms of *nix shells, 
Thanks,
David



_____________________________________________
Dr David Worrall
Experimental Composer, Polymedia
Adjunct Senior Research Fellow, Australian National University
Board Member, International Community for Auditory Display
Regional Editor, Organised Sound (CUP) 
worrall.avatar.com.au sonification.com.au


Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie




________________________________________________
Dr David Worrall.
- Experimental Polymedia:   worrall.avatar.com.au
- Sonification: www.sonification.com.au
- Education for Financial Independence: www.mindthemarkets.com.au








Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie