[Csnd] Run csd's as modules/plugins in Csound
| Date | 2013-06-25 12:19 |
| From | Bernt Isak Wærstad |
| Subject | [Csnd] Run csd's as modules/plugins in Csound |
Thinking in terms of packing csds into standalone modules or plugins (like Cabbage), would it be possible or is it possible to incorporate complete csds in your orchestra? Not thinking UDO or #include here, but something like instr 1-- Mvh. Bernt Isak Wærstad |
| Date | 2013-06-25 12:27 |
| From | Rory Walsh |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd] Run csd's as modules/plugins in Csound |
How would that be different from just calling csoundCompile() with "myincrediblecomplexpartikkelsetup.csd"? With Csound6 it's simple to embed .csd file into your binary as a string and then pass it to csoundCompile(). No more need for local copies of the csd file :) |
| Date | 2013-06-25 12:49 |
| From | Oeyvind Brandtsegg |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd] Run csd's as modules/plugins in Csound |
Oh, but it could be usefule doing it simply within the Csound orchestra (csd), bestfor those not ready to build a host application? 2013/6/25 Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> How would that be different from just calling csoundCompile() with -- Oeyvind Brandtsegg Professor of Music Technology NTNU 7491 Trondheim Norway Cell: +47 92 203 205 http://flyndresang.no/ http://www.partikkelaudio.com/ http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg http://soundcloud.com/t-emp |
| Date | 2013-06-25 12:57 |
| From | Rory Walsh |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd] Run csd's as modules/plugins in Csound |
I fail to see the difference between the two :) In one instance users could modify a csd that ships with the standalone and gets passed to a .csd that's embedded in the standalone. In the other instance a user can just modify a .csd that the host loads directly. In each case the user can modify the csd without having to rebuild the host app? |
| Date | 2013-06-25 14:01 |
| From | Bernt Isak Wærstad |
| Subject | [Csnd] Re: Run csd's as modules/plugins in Csound |
| The idea was not a separate host at all, but setting up a sort of host routing setup purely in Csound. I thought it would be nice to be able to use other selfcontained csds as you would use a plugin in a commercial DAW. Easier to reuse old code and maybe easier to share. Anyway seems it wont be a problem doing this in csound6 - great! :) tirsdag 25. juni 2013 skrev Rory Walsh følgende: I fail to see the difference between the two :) In one instance users -- Mvh. Bernt Isak Wærstad |
| Date | 2013-06-25 14:20 |
| From | Rory Walsh |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd] Re: Run csd's as modules/plugins in Csound |
Yes. Now I get it! |
| Date | 2013-06-25 14:57 |
| From | Michael Gogins |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd] Re: Run csd's as modules/plugins in Csound |
The signal flow graph opcodes and associated opcodes were developed by me to enable this kind of thing. They make it possible for you to have a CSD with one or many "encapsulated instruments". They have their own function tables, and they send (and can also receive) k-rate and a-rate signals in and to named ports. You can #include the csd files containing these instrument definitions. Then in the header of your orchestra, you can wire these instruments into your effects, etc. See the example in the manual (http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/examples/signalflowgraph.csd). Then imagine that each instr definition in this was #included from a separate csd.
This is since 5. something. Regards, Mike =========================== Michael GoginsIrreducible Productions http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Bernt Isak Wærstad <berntisak@gmail.com> wrote: The idea was not a separate host at all, but setting up a sort of host routing setup purely in Csound. I thought it would be nice to be able to use other selfcontained csds as you would use a plugin in a commercial DAW. Easier to reuse old code and maybe easier to share. |
| Date | 2013-06-25 15:21 |
| From | Rory Walsh |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd] Re: Run csd's as modules/plugins in Csound |
Yes but most hosts provide the ability to dynamically alter the signal graph. Unless I'm mistaken this can't be done with these opcodes, unless you rebuild the graph every time you make a change to it? |
| Date | 2013-06-25 15:44 |
| From | Michael Gogins |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd] Re: Run csd's as modules/plugins in Csound |
You would have to rebuild the graph, yes. I think I recall that you can't rebuild the orc header once Csound 6 has started. But if you can rebuild the header then you can rebuild the graph while Csound is running. Maybe. If it doesn't crash.
But it should be tried, to see what happens. Regards, Mike =========================== Michael GoginsIrreducible Productions http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote: Yes but most hosts provide the ability to dynamically alter the signal |