Have window binaries ceased development? Still no 5.12 available
almost a month after it was officially released. No one else seems
bothered by this, have I missed something, is it available somewhere
apart from sourceforge?


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I have mentioned several times on this list that while my apartment is
being renovated, I do not have time enough or frequent enough access
to my Windows machine to produce the Windows installers.

I will make a new Windows installer as soon as I have moved back into
the apartment. Right now, that looks like late April or early May.

Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
build systems).

Regards,
Mike

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> Have window binaries ceased development? Still no 5.12 available
> almost a month after it was officially released. No one else seems
> bothered by this, have I missed something, is it available somewhere
> apart from sourceforge?
>
>
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I read the instructions about "Building Csound" in the manual 
(http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/BuildingCsound.html), and though it 
doesn't sound like fun, i would go for it (at least, for personal use), 
if i had access to more specific instructions. I failed to find such 
instructions while browsing the CVS via the web interface. Exactly where 
are they, and how far would you go in sharing with us any secrets of the 
process (i am sure there are).

Regards,
Panos


On 4/1/2010 6:35 PM, Michael Gogins wrote:
> I have mentioned several times on this list that while my apartment is
> being renovated, I do not have time enough or frequent enough access
> to my Windows machine to produce the Windows installers.
>
> I will make a new Windows installer as soon as I have moved back into
> the apartment. Right now, that looks like late April or early May.
>
> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
> build systems).
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> Have window binaries ceased development? Still no 5.12 available
>> almost a month after it was officially released. No one else seems
>> bothered by this, have I missed something, is it available somewhere
>> apart from sourceforge?
>>
>>
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>>
>
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Not in the manual. As I said, in Csound CVS. csound-build.tex.

Regards,
Mike

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Panos Katergiathis
 wrote:
> I read the instructions about "Building Csound" in the manual
> (http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/BuildingCsound.html), and though it
> doesn't sound like fun, i would go for it (at least, for personal use), if i
> had access to more specific instructions. I failed to find such instructions
> while browsing the CVS via the web interface. Exactly where are they, and
> how far would you go in sharing with us any secrets of the process (i am
> sure there are).
>
> Regards,
> Panos
>
>
> On 4/1/2010 6:35 PM, Michael Gogins wrote:
>>
>> I have mentioned several times on this list that while my apartment is
>> being renovated, I do not have time enough or frequent enough access
>> to my Windows machine to produce the Windows installers.
>>
>> I will make a new Windows installer as soon as I have moved back into
>> the apartment. Right now, that looks like late April or early May.
>>
>> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
>> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
>> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>> build systems).
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>
>>> Have window binaries ceased development? Still no 5.12 available
>>> almost a month after it was officially released. No one else seems
>>> bothered by this, have I missed something, is it available somewhere
>>> apart from sourceforge?
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Are you still not able to find? --
http://csound.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/csound/csound5/csound-build.tex?revision=1.30&view=markup&pathrev=MAIN

Regards,
Mike

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Panos Katergiathis
 wrote:
> You said - I heard, therefore..
> " I failed to find such instructions while browsing the CVS via the web
> interface"
> ... the CVS, not the manual.
>
> Now, how about the other question of mine?
> "how far would you go in sharing with us any secrets of the process (i am
> sure there are)".
>
> Respectfully,
> Panos
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Michael Gogins 
> wrote:
>>
>> Not in the manual. As I said, in Csound CVS. csound-build.tex.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Panos Katergiathis
>>  wrote:
>> > I read the instructions about "Building Csound" in the manual
>> > (http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/BuildingCsound.html), and though it
>> > doesn't sound like fun, i would go for it (at least, for personal use),
>> > if i
>> > had access to more specific instructions. I failed to find such
>> > instructions
>> > while browsing the CVS via the web interface. Exactly where are they,
>> > and
>> > how far would you go in sharing with us any secrets of the process (i am
>> > sure there are).
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Panos
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4/1/2010 6:35 PM, Michael Gogins wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have mentioned several times on this list that while my apartment is
>> >> being renovated, I do not have time enough or frequent enough access
>> >> to my Windows machine to produce the Windows installers.
>> >>
>> >> I will make a new Windows installer as soon as I have moved back into
>> >> the apartment. Right now, that looks like late April or early May.
>> >>
>> >> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
>> >> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>> >> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
>> >> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>> >> build systems).
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Have window binaries ceased development? Still no 5.12 available
>> >>> almost a month after it was officially released. No one else seems
>> >>> bothered by this, have I missed something, is it available somewhere
>> >>> apart from sourceforge?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>> >>> csound"
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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Thank you for the information.

I have compiled Csound in the past under OS X, following mr. Kozar's 
fine guidance.

I also have compiled Csound under Linux, having followed this excellent 
set of instructions: http://www.csounds.com/node/125

I wish i had something similar for Windows.

Also, i think that building Csound under ALL platforms should be common 
knowledge (after all, the recent survey shows that there are enough 
people that prefer this method for installation). It would also take 
some of the related burden off the shoulders of the fine people that 
usually do the work for us.

Regards,
Panos



On 4/1/2010 11:48 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> I think one of the key things in Windows is to get your development
> system right.
>
> 1.You will ideally want to install MINGW and MSYS, to start with and
> make sure they are working alright.
>
> 2. Then you will need Python 2.6
>
> 3. Install scons and make sure the 'scons' is in your path for MSYS
>
> 4. Get a precompiled libsndfile (or build it yourself)
>
> 5. Get a precompiled portaudio (Mike Gogins might be able to point you
> to one).
>
> 6. Get portmidi. Make sure all these libs are in good places for MSYS
> (ie /usr/local/lib, which is mapped to \msys\1.0\local\lib
> and headers are in /usr/local/include
>
> 7. Now you'll probably have everything for a basic system. Get the
> source package, unpack it and at the top directory type
> scons and the system should build csound.
>
> 8. Csound will be in that directory.
>
> Sorry I can't be of more help. I don't have a windows system anymore,
> having migrated to OSX and Linux completely now.
>
> Regards
>
> Victor
>
>
>
> On 1 Apr 2010, at 21:38, Panos Katergiathis wrote:
>
>> You said - I heard, therefore..
>>
>> " I failed to find such instructions while browsing the CVS via the
>> web interface"
>>
>> ... the CVS, not the manual.
>>
>> Now, how about the other question of mine?
>>
>> "how far would you go in sharing with us any secrets of the process (i
>> am sure there are)".
>>
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Panos
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Michael Gogins
>> > wrote:
>>
>>     Not in the manual. As I said, in Csound CVS. csound-build.tex.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Mike
>>
>>     On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Panos Katergiathis
>>     > wrote:
>>     > I read the instructions about "Building Csound" in the manual
>>     > (http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/BuildingCsound.html), and
>>     though it
>>     > doesn't sound like fun, i would go for it (at least, for
>>     personal use), if i
>>     > had access to more specific instructions. I failed to find such
>>     instructions
>>     > while browsing the CVS via the web interface. Exactly where are
>>     they, and
>>     > how far would you go in sharing with us any secrets of the
>>     process (i am
>>     > sure there are).
>>     >
>>     > Regards,
>>     > Panos
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On 4/1/2010 6:35 PM, Michael Gogins wrote:
>>     >>
>>     >> I have mentioned several times on this list that while my
>>     apartment is
>>     >> being renovated, I do not have time enough or frequent enough
>>     access
>>     >> to my Windows machine to produce the Windows installers.
>>     >>
>>     >> I will make a new Windows installer as soon as I have moved
>>     back into
>>     >> the apartment. Right now, that looks like late April or early May.
>>     >>
>>     >> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
>>     >> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>>     >> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
>>     >> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>>     >> build systems).
>>     >>
>>     >> Regards,
>>     >> Mike
>>     >>
>>     >> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Rory Walsh>     > wrote:
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Have window binaries ceased development? Still no 5.12 available
>>     >>> almost a month after it was officially released. No one else seems
>>     >>> bothered by this, have I missed something, is it available
>>     somewhere
>>     >>> apart from sourceforge?
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>     
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>>      with body "unsubscribe
>>     >>> csound"
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >
>>     >
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On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
> build systems).

I will do this.

~ andy.f


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I have converted csound-build.tex to csound-build.pdf.  Is anybody
interested in having the pdf posted somewhere?  If so, then where
would be the best place to put it?

Cheers,
~ andy.f



On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:21 AM, andy fillebrown
 wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Michael Gogins
>  wrote:
>> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
>> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
>> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>> build systems).
>
> I will do this.
>
> ~ andy.f
>


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I'm off to a good start on this.  I've been able to obtain all the
dependencies except for bufferoverflowu.lib, which I'm not sure is
needed anymore -- we'll find out soon enough.  The only thing I'm
wondering about is the DirectSound portion of PortAudio.  Is the
DirectX sdk needed for this?

Cheers,
~ andy.f



On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:21 AM, andy fillebrown
 wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Michael Gogins
>  wrote:
>> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
>> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
>> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>> build systems).
>
> I will do this.
>
> ~ andy.f
>


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Why don't you get a prebuilt PortAudio DLL? I think you might find one  
in the previous release of Csound...
On 4 Apr 2010, at 11:29, andy fillebrown wrote:

> I'm off to a good start on this.  I've been able to obtain all the
> dependencies except for bufferoverflowu.lib, which I'm not sure is
> needed anymore -- we'll find out soon enough.  The only thing I'm
> wondering about is the DirectSound portion of PortAudio.  Is the
> DirectX sdk needed for this?
>
> Cheers,
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:21 AM, andy fillebrown
>  wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Michael Gogins
>>  wrote:
>>> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
>>> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>>> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
>>> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>>> build systems).
>>
>> I will do this.
>>
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>
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We don't want the most recent version?  Regardless, I like learning
how to build things.  I'll give building portaudio a try and if it
turns out to be too difficult than I'll fall back to using
portaudio.dll from the Csound 5.11.1 release.  Thanks for the
suggestion.

Cheers,
~ andy.f



On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Victor Lazzarini
 wrote:
> Why don't you get a prebuilt PortAudio DLL? I think you might find one in
> the previous release of Csound...
> On 4 Apr 2010, at 11:29, andy fillebrown wrote:
>
>> I'm off to a good start on this.  I've been able to obtain all the
>> dependencies except for bufferoverflowu.lib, which I'm not sure is
>> needed anymore -- we'll find out soon enough.  The only thing I'm
>> wondering about is the DirectSound portion of PortAudio.  Is the
>> DirectX sdk needed for this?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:21 AM, andy fillebrown
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Michael Gogins
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
>>>> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>>>> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
>>>> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>>>> build systems).
>>>
>>> I will do this.
>>>
>>> ~ andy.f
>>>
>>
>>
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I don't think there is a lot of difference between the portaudio that  
is in 5.11 and any newer version. The only thing might be support for  
the newer windows audio APIs (for vista/7, whatever they are called...)

Victor


On 4 Apr 2010, at 15:37, andy fillebrown wrote:

> We don't want the most recent version?  Regardless, I like learning
> how to build things.  I'll give building portaudio a try and if it
> turns out to be too difficult than I'll fall back to using
> portaudio.dll from the Csound 5.11.1 release.  Thanks for the
> suggestion.
>
> Cheers,
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>  wrote:
>> Why don't you get a prebuilt PortAudio DLL? I think you might find  
>> one in
>> the previous release of Csound...
>> On 4 Apr 2010, at 11:29, andy fillebrown wrote:
>>
>>> I'm off to a good start on this.  I've been able to obtain all the
>>> dependencies except for bufferoverflowu.lib, which I'm not sure is
>>> needed anymore -- we'll find out soon enough.  The only thing I'm
>>> wondering about is the DirectSound portion of PortAudio.  Is the
>>> DirectX sdk needed for this?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> ~ andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:21 AM, andy fillebrown
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Michael Gogins
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available  
>>>>> in
>>>>> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>>>>> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third  
>>>>> party
>>>>> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>>>>> build systems).
>>>>
>>>> I will do this.
>>>>
>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Tthe other thing to consider is that I may not have the same build
tools used when the 5.11 release was put together, and since I've been
to dll hell many times, I know for a fact that it's not a fun place to
even think about visiting again =)

Maybe I'm being over-cautious, but I've always found it better to err
on the side of ease of debugging when trying to figure out the tricky
stuff, and having a source-built portaudio will definitely be a bonus
if things go awry in the resulting binaries.

To be honest, it doesn't look like portaudio is that hard to build.
Some of the other dependencies are much scarier looking.

Cheers,
~ andy.f



On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Victor Lazzarini
 wrote:
> I don't think there is a lot of difference between the portaudio that is in
> 5.11 and any newer version. The only thing might be support for the newer
> windows audio APIs (for vista/7, whatever they are called...)
>
> Victor
>
>
> On 4 Apr 2010, at 15:37, andy fillebrown wrote:
>
>> We don't want the most recent version?  Regardless, I like learning
>> how to build things.  I'll give building portaudio a try and if it
>> turns out to be too difficult than I'll fall back to using
>> portaudio.dll from the Csound 5.11.1 release.  Thanks for the
>> suggestion.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Why don't you get a prebuilt PortAudio DLL? I think you might find one in
>>> the previous release of Csound...
>>> On 4 Apr 2010, at 11:29, andy fillebrown wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm off to a good start on this.  I've been able to obtain all the
>>>> dependencies except for bufferoverflowu.lib, which I'm not sure is
>>>> needed anymore -- we'll find out soon enough.  The only thing I'm
>>>> wondering about is the DirectSound portion of PortAudio.  Is the
>>>> DirectX sdk needed for this?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:21 AM, andy fillebrown
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Michael Gogins
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
>>>>>> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>>>>>> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
>>>>>> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>>>>>> build systems).
>>>>>
>>>>> I will do this.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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The pdf is now posted at http://csound.sourceforge.net/csound-build.pdf

I have recently installed win7 64 bit pro, but I will be doing an
initial "practice" build on xp since I'm not familiar with win7 yet.

Cheers,
~ andy.f



On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Panos Katergiathis
 wrote:
> I wish to see the pdf you created and i wish you good luck.
> Will you be working on XP or a more recent version of Windows?
>
> Panos
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:41 PM, andy fillebrown 
> wrote:
>>
>> Tthe other thing to consider is that I may not have the same build
>> tools used when the 5.11 release was put together, and since I've been
>> to dll hell many times, I know for a fact that it's not a fun place to
>> even think about visiting again =)
>>
>> Maybe I'm being over-cautious, but I've always found it better to err
>> on the side of ease of debugging when trying to figure out the tricky
>> stuff, and having a source-built portaudio will definitely be a bonus
>> if things go awry in the resulting binaries.
>>
>> To be honest, it doesn't look like portaudio is that hard to build.
>> Some of the other dependencies are much scarier looking.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>  wrote:
>> > I don't think there is a lot of difference between the portaudio that is
>> > in
>> > 5.11 and any newer version. The only thing might be support for the
>> > newer
>> > windows audio APIs (for vista/7, whatever they are called...)
>> >
>> > Victor
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4 Apr 2010, at 15:37, andy fillebrown wrote:
>> >
>> >> We don't want the most recent version?  Regardless, I like learning
>> >> how to build things.  I'll give building portaudio a try and if it
>> >> turns out to be too difficult than I'll fall back to using
>> >> portaudio.dll from the Csound 5.11.1 release.  Thanks for the
>> >> suggestion.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> ~ andy.f
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Why don't you get a prebuilt PortAudio DLL? I think you might find one
>> >>> in
>> >>> the previous release of Csound...
>> >>> On 4 Apr 2010, at 11:29, andy fillebrown wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I'm off to a good start on this.  I've been able to obtain all the
>> >>>> dependencies except for bufferoverflowu.lib, which I'm not sure is
>> >>>> needed anymore -- we'll find out soon enough.  The only thing I'm
>> >>>> wondering about is the DirectSound portion of PortAudio.  Is the
>> >>>> DirectX sdk needed for this?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers,
>> >>>> ~ andy.f
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:21 AM, andy fillebrown
>> >>>>  wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Michael Gogins
>> >>>>>  wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
>> >>>>>> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>> >>>>>> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
>> >>>>>> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>> >>>>>> build systems).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I will do this.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ~ andy.f
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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There have been a few changes. The only one I remember off the top of
my head is that you don't need to patch the FluidSynth sources any
more, development there has resumed and they have incorporated the
patches into their head sources.

There has been recent activity with PortAudio, it may be possible to
build now with configure and get all the drivers, at any rate an
attempt should be made to build with up to date sources.

Regards,
Mike

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:19 AM, andy fillebrown
 wrote:
> The pdf is now posted at http://csound.sourceforge.net/csound-build.pdf
>
> I have recently installed win7 64 bit pro, but I will be doing an
> initial "practice" build on xp since I'm not familiar with win7 yet.
>
> Cheers,
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Panos Katergiathis
>  wrote:
>> I wish to see the pdf you created and i wish you good luck.
>> Will you be working on XP or a more recent version of Windows?
>>
>> Panos
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:41 PM, andy fillebrown 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tthe other thing to consider is that I may not have the same build
>>> tools used when the 5.11 release was put together, and since I've been
>>> to dll hell many times, I know for a fact that it's not a fun place to
>>> even think about visiting again =)
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm being over-cautious, but I've always found it better to err
>>> on the side of ease of debugging when trying to figure out the tricky
>>> stuff, and having a source-built portaudio will definitely be a bonus
>>> if things go awry in the resulting binaries.
>>>
>>> To be honest, it doesn't look like portaudio is that hard to build.
>>> Some of the other dependencies are much scarier looking.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> ~ andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>  wrote:
>>> > I don't think there is a lot of difference between the portaudio that is
>>> > in
>>> > 5.11 and any newer version. The only thing might be support for the
>>> > newer
>>> > windows audio APIs (for vista/7, whatever they are called...)
>>> >
>>> > Victor
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 4 Apr 2010, at 15:37, andy fillebrown wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> We don't want the most recent version?  Regardless, I like learning
>>> >> how to build things.  I'll give building portaudio a try and if it
>>> >> turns out to be too difficult than I'll fall back to using
>>> >> portaudio.dll from the Csound 5.11.1 release.  Thanks for the
>>> >> suggestion.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> ~ andy.f
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>> >>  wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Why don't you get a prebuilt PortAudio DLL? I think you might find one
>>> >>> in
>>> >>> the previous release of Csound...
>>> >>> On 4 Apr 2010, at 11:29, andy fillebrown wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> I'm off to a good start on this.  I've been able to obtain all the
>>> >>>> dependencies except for bufferoverflowu.lib, which I'm not sure is
>>> >>>> needed anymore -- we'll find out soon enough.  The only thing I'm
>>> >>>> wondering about is the DirectSound portion of PortAudio.  Is the
>>> >>>> DirectX sdk needed for this?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Cheers,
>>> >>>> ~ andy.f
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:21 AM, andy fillebrown
>>> >>>>  wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Michael Gogins
>>> >>>>>  wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
>>> >>>>>> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>>> >>>>>> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
>>> >>>>>> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>>> >>>>>> build systems).
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I will do this.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> ~ andy.f
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
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On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> There have been a few changes. The only one I remember off the top of
> my head is that you don't need to patch the FluidSynth sources any
> more, development there has resumed and they have incorporated the
> patches into their head sources.

Thanks for the info.  The fltk build went smoothly, and "building" gmm
was nothing to worry about in retrospect =) ... portaudio is next on
the list.

Cheers,
~ andy.f


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The portaudio build went well with asio, directx, and wmme.  No luck
with the kernel driver.
The directx sdk was not needed.  I found a version 9 dsound.h in stk,
and it worked fine.

Looking good so far,
~ andy.f


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Interesting, did you use mingw or msvc ?
Oeyvind

2010/4/6 andy fillebrown :
> The portaudio build went well with asio, directx, and wmme.  No luck
> with the kernel driver.
> The directx sdk was not needed.  I found a version 9 dsound.h in stk,
> and it worked fine.
>
> Looking good so far,
> ~ andy.f
>
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I'm using mingw via msys.  The only thing I had to do was add some
windows specific -D flags to CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS in the Makefile after
configuring, along with the flags Michael recommends in the custom
SConstruct found in csound-build.tex.

The flags I added:
-DWINDOWS -D_WIN32 -DWIN32 -DWINVER=0x0501
-DTIME_KILL_SYNCHRONOUS=0x0100
-DKSAUDIO_SPEAKER_DIRECTOUT=0 -DMETHOD_NEITHER=3 -DFILE_ANY_ACCESS=0

Cheers,
~ andy.f



On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:50 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> Interesting, did you use mingw or msvc ?
> Oeyvind
>
> 2010/4/6 andy fillebrown :
>> The portaudio build went well with asio, directx, and wmme.  No luck
>> with the kernel driver.
>> The directx sdk was not needed.  I found a version 9 dsound.h in stk,
>> and it worked fine.
>>
>> Looking good so far,
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>>
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Thanks a lot, this is very nice to know.
Oeyvind

2010/4/6 andy fillebrown :
> I'm using mingw via msys.  The only thing I had to do was add some
> windows specific -D flags to CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS in the Makefile after
> configuring, along with the flags Michael recommends in the custom
> SConstruct found in csound-build.tex.
>
> The flags I added:
> -DWINDOWS -D_WIN32 -DWIN32 -DWINVER=0x0501
> -DTIME_KILL_SYNCHRONOUS=0x0100
> -DKSAUDIO_SPEAKER_DIRECTOUT=0 -DMETHOD_NEITHER=3 -DFILE_ANY_ACCESS=0
>
> Cheers,
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:50 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>> Interesting, did you use mingw or msvc ?
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2010/4/6 andy fillebrown :
>>> The portaudio build went well with asio, directx, and wmme.  No luck
>>> with the kernel driver.
>>> The directx sdk was not needed.  I found a version 9 dsound.h in stk,
>>> and it worked fine.
>>>
>>> Looking good so far,
>>> ~ andy.f
>>>
>>>
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The fluidsynth build seems to have changed significantly.  I was able
to get it built using the instructions at
http://fluidsynth.resonance.org/trac/wiki/BuildingFluidSynth#MinGWMSYS

Cheers,
~ andy.f



On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> There have been a few changes. The only one I remember off the top of
> my head is that you don't need to patch the FluidSynth sources any
> more, development there has resumed and they have incorporated the
> patches into their head sources.
>
> There has been recent activity with PortAudio, it may be possible to
> build now with configure and get all the drivers, at any rate an
> attempt should be made to build with up to date sources.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:19 AM, andy fillebrown
>  wrote:
>> The pdf is now posted at http://csound.sourceforge.net/csound-build.pdf
>>
>> I have recently installed win7 64 bit pro, but I will be doing an
>> initial "practice" build on xp since I'm not familiar with win7 yet.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Panos Katergiathis
>>  wrote:
>>> I wish to see the pdf you created and i wish you good luck.
>>> Will you be working on XP or a more recent version of Windows?
>>>
>>> Panos
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:41 PM, andy fillebrown 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tthe other thing to consider is that I may not have the same build
>>>> tools used when the 5.11 release was put together, and since I've been
>>>> to dll hell many times, I know for a fact that it's not a fun place to
>>>> even think about visiting again =)
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'm being over-cautious, but I've always found it better to err
>>>> on the side of ease of debugging when trying to figure out the tricky
>>>> stuff, and having a source-built portaudio will definitely be a bonus
>>>> if things go awry in the resulting binaries.
>>>>
>>>> To be honest, it doesn't look like portaudio is that hard to build.
>>>> Some of the other dependencies are much scarier looking.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> > I don't think there is a lot of difference between the portaudio that is
>>>> > in
>>>> > 5.11 and any newer version. The only thing might be support for the
>>>> > newer
>>>> > windows audio APIs (for vista/7, whatever they are called...)
>>>> >
>>>> > Victor
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 4 Apr 2010, at 15:37, andy fillebrown wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> We don't want the most recent version?  Regardless, I like learning
>>>> >> how to build things.  I'll give building portaudio a try and if it
>>>> >> turns out to be too difficult than I'll fall back to using
>>>> >> portaudio.dll from the Csound 5.11.1 release.  Thanks for the
>>>> >> suggestion.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>> >> ~ andy.f
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>> >>  wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Why don't you get a prebuilt PortAudio DLL? I think you might find one
>>>> >>> in
>>>> >>> the previous release of Csound...
>>>> >>> On 4 Apr 2010, at 11:29, andy fillebrown wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> I'm off to a good start on this.  I've been able to obtain all the
>>>> >>>> dependencies except for bufferoverflowu.lib, which I'm not sure is
>>>> >>>> needed anymore -- we'll find out soon enough.  The only thing I'm
>>>> >>>> wondering about is the DirectSound portion of PortAudio.  Is the
>>>> >>>> DirectX sdk needed for this?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Cheers,
>>>> >>>> ~ andy.f
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:21 AM, andy fillebrown
>>>> >>>>  wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Michael Gogins
>>>> >>>>>  wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
>>>> >>>>>> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>>>> >>>>>> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
>>>> >>>>>> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>>>> >>>>>> build systems).
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I will do this.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>> >>>>          https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
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Yes, that's what I was talking about. The build instructions should be
updated to refer the builder to these instructions.

Regards,
Mike

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:17 AM, andy fillebrown
 wrote:
> The fluidsynth build seems to have changed significantly.  I was able
> to get it built using the instructions at
> http://fluidsynth.resonance.org/trac/wiki/BuildingFluidSynth#MinGWMSYS
>
> Cheers,
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Michael Gogins
>  wrote:
>> There have been a few changes. The only one I remember off the top of
>> my head is that you don't need to patch the FluidSynth sources any
>> more, development there has resumed and they have incorporated the
>> patches into their head sources.
>>
>> There has been recent activity with PortAudio, it may be possible to
>> build now with configure and get all the drivers, at any rate an
>> attempt should be made to build with up to date sources.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:19 AM, andy fillebrown
>>  wrote:
>>> The pdf is now posted at http://csound.sourceforge.net/csound-build.pdf
>>>
>>> I have recently installed win7 64 bit pro, but I will be doing an
>>> initial "practice" build on xp since I'm not familiar with win7 yet.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> ~ andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Panos Katergiathis
>>>  wrote:
>>>> I wish to see the pdf you created and i wish you good luck.
>>>> Will you be working on XP or a more recent version of Windows?
>>>>
>>>> Panos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:41 PM, andy fillebrown 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Tthe other thing to consider is that I may not have the same build
>>>>> tools used when the 5.11 release was put together, and since I've been
>>>>> to dll hell many times, I know for a fact that it's not a fun place to
>>>>> even think about visiting again =)
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I'm being over-cautious, but I've always found it better to err
>>>>> on the side of ease of debugging when trying to figure out the tricky
>>>>> stuff, and having a source-built portaudio will definitely be a bonus
>>>>> if things go awry in the resulting binaries.
>>>>>
>>>>> To be honest, it doesn't look like portaudio is that hard to build.
>>>>> Some of the other dependencies are much scarier looking.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> > I don't think there is a lot of difference between the portaudio that is
>>>>> > in
>>>>> > 5.11 and any newer version. The only thing might be support for the
>>>>> > newer
>>>>> > windows audio APIs (for vista/7, whatever they are called...)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Victor
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 4 Apr 2010, at 15:37, andy fillebrown wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> We don't want the most recent version?  Regardless, I like learning
>>>>> >> how to build things.  I'll give building portaudio a try and if it
>>>>> >> turns out to be too difficult than I'll fall back to using
>>>>> >> portaudio.dll from the Csound 5.11.1 release.  Thanks for the
>>>>> >> suggestion.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>> >> ~ andy.f
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> >>  wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Why don't you get a prebuilt PortAudio DLL? I think you might find one
>>>>> >>> in
>>>>> >>> the previous release of Csound...
>>>>> >>> On 4 Apr 2010, at 11:29, andy fillebrown wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> I'm off to a good start on this.  I've been able to obtain all the
>>>>> >>>> dependencies except for bufferoverflowu.lib, which I'm not sure is
>>>>> >>>> needed anymore -- we'll find out soon enough.  The only thing I'm
>>>>> >>>> wondering about is the DirectSound portion of PortAudio.  Is the
>>>>> >>>> DirectX sdk needed for this?
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Cheers,
>>>>> >>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:21 AM, andy fillebrown
>>>>> >>>>  wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Michael Gogins
>>>>> >>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
>>>>> >>>>>> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>>>>> >>>>>> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
>>>>> >>>>>> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>>>>> >>>>>> build systems).
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I will do this.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>> >>>>          https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>> >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>> >>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>> >>>> csound"
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>>>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>>>> >>> "unsubscribe
>>>>> >>> csound"
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>>>> >> "unsubscribe
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>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>>>> > csound"
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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The portaudio and fluidsynth builds didn't work correctly.

The portaudio build split up my soundcard's sample-rate capabilities
into 44100 and 48000, and listed a separate device for each but
wouldn't allow sr=44100 on the 48000 "device" and vice-versa.  When
trying to use the ASIO4ALL driver, Portaudio wouldn't accept any rates
at all.  It's too bad, too, because it seemed to run much faster than
the older portaudio build.

The fluidsynth seemed fine, but the new GLib dependency kept throwing
an error message saying "The procedure entry point g_assertion_message
could not be located in the dynamic link library libglib-2.0-0.dll" --
which I haven't figured out how to fix, yet.

Anyway... I've posted a candidate double precision installer that uses
portaudio and fluidsynth from 5.11.1, for people to test.  It can be
found at http://csound.sourceforge.net/Csound5.12.1-gnu-win32-d--RC1.exe
It should have everything except the docs (which I haven't gotten
around to building yet).  Don't forget to move fluidOpcodes.dll out of
the plugins64 folder (or rename its extension) if you're going to be
using QuteCsound.

Cheers,
~andy.f



On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> Yes, that's what I was talking about. The build instructions should be
> updated to refer the builder to these instructions.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:17 AM, andy fillebrown
>  wrote:
>> The fluidsynth build seems to have changed significantly.  I was able
>> to get it built using the instructions at
>> http://fluidsynth.resonance.org/trac/wiki/BuildingFluidSynth#MinGWMSYS
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Michael Gogins
>>  wrote:
>>> There have been a few changes. The only one I remember off the top of
>>> my head is that you don't need to patch the FluidSynth sources any
>>> more, development there has resumed and they have incorporated the
>>> patches into their head sources.
>>>
>>> There has been recent activity with PortAudio, it may be possible to
>>> build now with configure and get all the drivers, at any rate an
>>> attempt should be made to build with up to date sources.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:19 AM, andy fillebrown
>>>  wrote:
>>>> The pdf is now posted at http://csound.sourceforge.net/csound-build.pdf
>>>>
>>>> I have recently installed win7 64 bit pro, but I will be doing an
>>>> initial "practice" build on xp since I'm not familiar with win7 yet.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Panos Katergiathis
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> I wish to see the pdf you created and i wish you good luck.
>>>>> Will you be working on XP or a more recent version of Windows?
>>>>>
>>>>> Panos
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:41 PM, andy fillebrown 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tthe other thing to consider is that I may not have the same build
>>>>>> tools used when the 5.11 release was put together, and since I've been
>>>>>> to dll hell many times, I know for a fact that it's not a fun place to
>>>>>> even think about visiting again =)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I'm being over-cautious, but I've always found it better to err
>>>>>> on the side of ease of debugging when trying to figure out the tricky
>>>>>> stuff, and having a source-built portaudio will definitely be a bonus
>>>>>> if things go awry in the resulting binaries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To be honest, it doesn't look like portaudio is that hard to build.
>>>>>> Some of the other dependencies are much scarier looking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> > I don't think there is a lot of difference between the portaudio that is
>>>>>> > in
>>>>>> > 5.11 and any newer version. The only thing might be support for the
>>>>>> > newer
>>>>>> > windows audio APIs (for vista/7, whatever they are called...)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Victor
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 4 Apr 2010, at 15:37, andy fillebrown wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> We don't want the most recent version?  Regardless, I like learning
>>>>>> >> how to build things.  I'll give building portaudio a try and if it
>>>>>> >> turns out to be too difficult than I'll fall back to using
>>>>>> >> portaudio.dll from the Csound 5.11.1 release.  Thanks for the
>>>>>> >> suggestion.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>> >> ~ andy.f
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> >>  wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Why don't you get a prebuilt PortAudio DLL? I think you might find one
>>>>>> >>> in
>>>>>> >>> the previous release of Csound...
>>>>>> >>> On 4 Apr 2010, at 11:29, andy fillebrown wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> I'm off to a good start on this.  I've been able to obtain all the
>>>>>> >>>> dependencies except for bufferoverflowu.lib, which I'm not sure is
>>>>>> >>>> needed anymore -- we'll find out soon enough.  The only thing I'm
>>>>>> >>>> wondering about is the DirectSound portion of PortAudio.  Is the
>>>>>> >>>> DirectX sdk needed for this?
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> >>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:21 AM, andy fillebrown
>>>>>> >>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Michael Gogins
>>>>>> >>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
>>>>>> >>>>>> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>>>>>> >>>>>> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
>>>>>> >>>>>> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>>>>>> >>>>>> build systems).
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> I will do this.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>> >>>>          https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>> >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>> >>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>> >>>> csound"
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>>>>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>>>>> >>> "unsubscribe
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>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>>>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>>>>> >> "unsubscribe
>>>>>> >> csound"
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>>>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>>>>> > csound"
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>
>>>
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Hi,

Thanks, that's very useful for many people. How have you handled
python? Did you build the python opcodes, what version of python is
required?
Will Csound have problem running out of the box if python is not installed?

Cheers,
Andrés

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:21 AM, andy fillebrown
 wrote:
> The portaudio and fluidsynth builds didn't work correctly.
>
> The portaudio build split up my soundcard's sample-rate capabilities
> into 44100 and 48000, and listed a separate device for each but
> wouldn't allow sr=44100 on the 48000 "device" and vice-versa.  When
> trying to use the ASIO4ALL driver, Portaudio wouldn't accept any rates
> at all.  It's too bad, too, because it seemed to run much faster than
> the older portaudio build.
>
> The fluidsynth seemed fine, but the new GLib dependency kept throwing
> an error message saying "The procedure entry point g_assertion_message
> could not be located in the dynamic link library libglib-2.0-0.dll" --
> which I haven't figured out how to fix, yet.
>
> Anyway... I've posted a candidate double precision installer that uses
> portaudio and fluidsynth from 5.11.1, for people to test.  It can be
> found at http://csound.sourceforge.net/Csound5.12.1-gnu-win32-d--RC1.exe
> It should have everything except the docs (which I haven't gotten
> around to building yet).  Don't forget to move fluidOpcodes.dll out of
> the plugins64 folder (or rename its extension) if you're going to be
> using QuteCsound.
>
> Cheers,
> ~andy.f
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Michael Gogins
>  wrote:
>> Yes, that's what I was talking about. The build instructions should be
>> updated to refer the builder to these instructions.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:17 AM, andy fillebrown
>>  wrote:
>>> The fluidsynth build seems to have changed significantly.  I was able
>>> to get it built using the instructions at
>>> http://fluidsynth.resonance.org/trac/wiki/BuildingFluidSynth#MinGWMSYS
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> ~ andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Michael Gogins
>>>  wrote:
>>>> There have been a few changes. The only one I remember off the top of
>>>> my head is that you don't need to patch the FluidSynth sources any
>>>> more, development there has resumed and they have incorporated the
>>>> patches into their head sources.
>>>>
>>>> There has been recent activity with PortAudio, it may be possible to
>>>> build now with configure and get all the drivers, at any rate an
>>>> attempt should be made to build with up to date sources.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:19 AM, andy fillebrown
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> The pdf is now posted at http://csound.sourceforge.net/csound-build.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> I have recently installed win7 64 bit pro, but I will be doing an
>>>>> initial "practice" build on xp since I'm not familiar with win7 yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Panos Katergiathis
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> I wish to see the pdf you created and i wish you good luck.
>>>>>> Will you be working on XP or a more recent version of Windows?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Panos
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:41 PM, andy fillebrown 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tthe other thing to consider is that I may not have the same build
>>>>>>> tools used when the 5.11 release was put together, and since I've been
>>>>>>> to dll hell many times, I know for a fact that it's not a fun place to
>>>>>>> even think about visiting again =)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe I'm being over-cautious, but I've always found it better to err
>>>>>>> on the side of ease of debugging when trying to figure out the tricky
>>>>>>> stuff, and having a source-built portaudio will definitely be a bonus
>>>>>>> if things go awry in the resulting binaries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To be honest, it doesn't look like portaudio is that hard to build.
>>>>>>> Some of the other dependencies are much scarier looking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> > I don't think there is a lot of difference between the portaudio that is
>>>>>>> > in
>>>>>>> > 5.11 and any newer version. The only thing might be support for the
>>>>>>> > newer
>>>>>>> > windows audio APIs (for vista/7, whatever they are called...)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Victor
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On 4 Apr 2010, at 15:37, andy fillebrown wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> We don't want the most recent version?  Regardless, I like learning
>>>>>>> >> how to build things.  I'll give building portaudio a try and if it
>>>>>>> >> turns out to be too difficult than I'll fall back to using
>>>>>>> >> portaudio.dll from the Csound 5.11.1 release.  Thanks for the
>>>>>>> >> suggestion.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>>> >> ~ andy.f
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>> >>  wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Why don't you get a prebuilt PortAudio DLL? I think you might find one
>>>>>>> >>> in
>>>>>>> >>> the previous release of Csound...
>>>>>>> >>> On 4 Apr 2010, at 11:29, andy fillebrown wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>> I'm off to a good start on this.  I've been able to obtain all the
>>>>>>> >>>> dependencies except for bufferoverflowu.lib, which I'm not sure is
>>>>>>> >>>> needed anymore -- we'll find out soon enough.  The only thing I'm
>>>>>>> >>>> wondering about is the DirectSound portion of PortAudio.  Is the
>>>>>>> >>>> DirectX sdk needed for this?
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> >>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:21 AM, andy fillebrown
>>>>>>> >>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Michael Gogins
>>>>>>> >>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>>>>>>> >>>>>> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
>>>>>>> >>>>>> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>>>>>>> >>>>>> build systems).
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> I will do this.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
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I built the python opcodes using Python 2.6, and tested
examples/python/Koch.py.  I also uninstalled Python after installing
Csound and it didn't seem to be a problem, but this is the first time
I'm building a full Csound package so I'm not sure if everything is
ok.  Testing on other machines is needed.

I just tried to use the install on a clean Win7 setup, and it
complained about missing libsndfile-1.dll and pthreadGC.dll, so
apparently Win7 is seeing through the library naming trickery better
than WinXP does.  Renaming libsndfile.dll and pthread.dll works for
now.  I will fix it for the final build.

Please test the installer.  The more setups it gets tested on, the better.

Cheers,
~ andy.f



On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks, that's very useful for many people. How have you handled
> python? Did you build the python opcodes, what version of python is
> required?
> Will Csound have problem running out of the box if python is not installed?
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:21 AM, andy fillebrown
>  wrote:
>> The portaudio and fluidsynth builds didn't work correctly.
>>
>> The portaudio build split up my soundcard's sample-rate capabilities
>> into 44100 and 48000, and listed a separate device for each but
>> wouldn't allow sr=44100 on the 48000 "device" and vice-versa.  When
>> trying to use the ASIO4ALL driver, Portaudio wouldn't accept any rates
>> at all.  It's too bad, too, because it seemed to run much faster than
>> the older portaudio build.
>>
>> The fluidsynth seemed fine, but the new GLib dependency kept throwing
>> an error message saying "The procedure entry point g_assertion_message
>> could not be located in the dynamic link library libglib-2.0-0.dll" --
>> which I haven't figured out how to fix, yet.
>>
>> Anyway... I've posted a candidate double precision installer that uses
>> portaudio and fluidsynth from 5.11.1, for people to test.  It can be
>> found at http://csound.sourceforge.net/Csound5.12.1-gnu-win32-d--RC1.exe
>> It should have everything except the docs (which I haven't gotten
>> around to building yet).  Don't forget to move fluidOpcodes.dll out of
>> the plugins64 folder (or rename its extension) if you're going to be
>> using QuteCsound.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ~andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Michael Gogins
>>  wrote:
>>> Yes, that's what I was talking about. The build instructions should be
>>> updated to refer the builder to these instructions.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:17 AM, andy fillebrown
>>>  wrote:
>>>> The fluidsynth build seems to have changed significantly.  I was able
>>>> to get it built using the instructions at
>>>> http://fluidsynth.resonance.org/trac/wiki/BuildingFluidSynth#MinGWMSYS
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Michael Gogins
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> There have been a few changes. The only one I remember off the top of
>>>>> my head is that you don't need to patch the FluidSynth sources any
>>>>> more, development there has resumed and they have incorporated the
>>>>> patches into their head sources.
>>>>>
>>>>> There has been recent activity with PortAudio, it may be possible to
>>>>> build now with configure and get all the drivers, at any rate an
>>>>> attempt should be made to build with up to date sources.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:19 AM, andy fillebrown
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> The pdf is now posted at http://csound.sourceforge.net/csound-build.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have recently installed win7 64 bit pro, but I will be doing an
>>>>>> initial "practice" build on xp since I'm not familiar with win7 yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Panos Katergiathis
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> I wish to see the pdf you created and i wish you good luck.
>>>>>>> Will you be working on XP or a more recent version of Windows?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Panos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:41 PM, andy fillebrown 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tthe other thing to consider is that I may not have the same build
>>>>>>>> tools used when the 5.11 release was put together, and since I've been
>>>>>>>> to dll hell many times, I know for a fact that it's not a fun place to
>>>>>>>> even think about visiting again =)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe I'm being over-cautious, but I've always found it better to err
>>>>>>>> on the side of ease of debugging when trying to figure out the tricky
>>>>>>>> stuff, and having a source-built portaudio will definitely be a bonus
>>>>>>>> if things go awry in the resulting binaries.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To be honest, it doesn't look like portaudio is that hard to build.
>>>>>>>> Some of the other dependencies are much scarier looking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> > I don't think there is a lot of difference between the portaudio that is
>>>>>>>> > in
>>>>>>>> > 5.11 and any newer version. The only thing might be support for the
>>>>>>>> > newer
>>>>>>>> > windows audio APIs (for vista/7, whatever they are called...)
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Victor
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On 4 Apr 2010, at 15:37, andy fillebrown wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> We don't want the most recent version?  Regardless, I like learning
>>>>>>>> >> how to build things.  I'll give building portaudio a try and if it
>>>>>>>> >> turns out to be too difficult than I'll fall back to using
>>>>>>>> >> portaudio.dll from the Csound 5.11.1 release.  Thanks for the
>>>>>>>> >> suggestion.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> >> ~ andy.f
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>> >>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Why don't you get a prebuilt PortAudio DLL? I think you might find one
>>>>>>>> >>> in
>>>>>>>> >>> the previous release of Csound...
>>>>>>>> >>> On 4 Apr 2010, at 11:29, andy fillebrown wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> I'm off to a good start on this.  I've been able to obtain all the
>>>>>>>> >>>> dependencies except for bufferoverflowu.lib, which I'm not sure is
>>>>>>>> >>>> needed anymore -- we'll find out soon enough.  The only thing I'm
>>>>>>>> >>>> wondering about is the DirectSound portion of PortAudio.  Is the
>>>>>>>> >>>> DirectX sdk needed for this?
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> >>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:21 AM, andy fillebrown
>>>>>>>> >>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Michael Gogins
>>>>>>>> >>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Somebody else could do this; complete instructions are available in
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Csound CVS. But It's a fairly big job especially if you want to
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> actually run things and make sure they work, and update third party
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> libraries (many of which have to be built and need tweaks to their
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> build systems).
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> I will do this.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>> >>>>          https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
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>>>>>>>> >>>> "unsubscribe
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>>>>>>>> >>>>
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>>>>>>>> >>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Michael Gogins
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>>>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>>
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