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[Csnd] Curiosity about new parser from a ignorant

Date2011-10-05 08:55
Fromfrancesco
Subject[Csnd] Curiosity about new parser from a ignorant
Hello All,
i would only like to understand something really simple for all of You, but
not to me.
What is the necessity of a new parser? What it do differently from the old?

Apologies if really stupid question, like i said i am just a curious people.

Thanks,
ciao,
francesco.


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Date2011-10-05 09:09
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Curiosity about new parser from a ignorant
That's probably one of the most asked questions at the Csound
conference. The answer is that most end-users will notice no
difference whatsoever. The language won't change and how you run
Csound won't change. It's all about changes under the hood. Actually,
there is one new feature it adds, and that's the ability to run Csound
on multiple processors, although one can't use any channel or zak
opcodes for the time being.

Rory.




On 5 October 2011 08:55, francesco  wrote:
> Hello All,
> i would only like to understand something really simple for all of You, but
> not to me.
> What is the necessity of a new parser? What it do differently from the old?
>
> Apologies if really stupid question, like i said i am just a curious people.
>
> Thanks,
> ciao,
> francesco.
>
>
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Date2011-10-05 09:36
Fromjpff@cs.bath.ac.uk
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Curiosity about new parser from a ignorant
> That's probably one of the most asked questions at the Csound
> conference. The answer is that most end-users will notice no
> difference whatsoever. The language won't change and how you run
> Csound won't change. It's all about changes under the hood. Actually,
> there is one new feature it adds, and that's the ability to run Csound
> on multiple processors, although one can't use any channel or zak
> opcodes for the time being.
>
> Rory.
>

The new parser also supports the until loop, and I have it parsing a new
vector/array data type.  It also should be more robust in odd cases,  I
would also like two-argument functions which is next to impossible in the
old parser.  Always anoyed me that atan2 was not a function.

As Rory says end-users should not notice the difference when we get the
wrinkes ironned out, but making the parser re-entrant has significance for
API users and other frontend-like builders.

So do not worry -- should be backward compatible.  Would do it all now but
it is time for breakfast.

==John ff



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Date2011-10-05 09:53
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Curiosity about new parser from a ignorant
> So do not worry -- should be backward compatible.  Would do it all now but
> it is time for breakfast.

Breakfast at this hour!?! It's almost time for lunch!


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Date2011-10-05 09:54
FromSteven Yi
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Curiosity about new parser from a ignorant
I'm about to eat breakfast myself... :P

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> So do not worry -- should be backward compatible.  Would do it all now but
>> it is time for breakfast.
>
> Breakfast at this hour!?! It's almost time for lunch!
>
>
>>
>> ==John ff
>>
>>
>>
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Date2011-10-05 09:57
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Curiosity about new parser from a ignorant
Typical student!! And in John's case a typical professor!

On 5 October 2011 09:54, Steven Yi  wrote:
> I'm about to eat breakfast myself... :P
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> So do not worry -- should be backward compatible.  Would do it all now but
>>> it is time for breakfast.
>>
>> Breakfast at this hour!?! It's almost time for lunch!
>>
>>
>>>
>>> ==John ff
>>>
>>>
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Date2011-10-05 10:23
Fromjpff@cs.bath.ac.uk
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Curiosity about new parser from a ignorant
>> So do not worry -- should be backward compatible.  Would do it all now
>> but
>> it is time for breakfast.
>
> Breakfast at this hour!?! It's almost time for lunch!
>

I am retired....




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Date2011-10-05 11:10
Fromrichard duckworth
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Curiosity about new parser from a ignorant
I'm hoping the Troika will retire me too :)
 
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From: "jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk" <jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk>
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Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011, 10:23
Subject: Re: [Csnd] Curiosity about new parser from a ignorant

>> So do not worry -- should be backward compatible.  Would do it all now
>> but
>> it is time for breakfast.
>
> Breakfast at this hour!?! It's almost time for lunch!
>

I am retired....




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