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[Csnd] On enduring work (from Jean-Claude Risset's "Why?")

Date2011-10-05 13:36
FromSteven Yi
Subject[Csnd] On enduring work (from Jean-Claude Risset's "Why?")
Hi All,

I was reading through this article by Jean-Claude Risset:

http://www.utexas.edu/cola/insts/france-ut/_files/pdf/resources/risset_2.pdf

It has a great section regarding scores and for me, it underlines a
key importance of using tools that allow for long-term viability for
later understanding and preserving our work:

"This issue  of  passing information  and  know-how is  crucial. A
MUSIC V  score  (this  also
applies for scores of other synthesis programs such as CSOUND  or
CLM)  gives complete
information about the sounds and their elaboration. Analyzing scores
is an  essential  part  of
teaching - or learning - composition. MUSIC V, CSOUND or CLM scores
can  be  analyzed
by composers interested in recipes for sound  synthesis  and in the
compositional elaboration
of sonic structures. Computer synthesis of sound would remain very
primitive and unmusical
if explorers had not  shared the  know-how  they  developed. Today,  a
 considerable body  of
know-how is disseminated around C-Sound..."

The rest of the article is quite a fascinating read; would recommend
to anyone who is using Csound who hasn't read the article yet!

Thanks,
steven


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Date2011-10-05 13:42
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Csnd] On enduring work (from Jean-Claude Risset's "Why?")
Thanks Steven,

I pass this out "every" semester to my Csounders.

Jean-Claude has been into Csound now for some time and has always been pleased with the fact
that his "catalog" was converted over from MusicV.

Maybe we can have him as a guest at the next Csound conference?

-dB

___________________________________

Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.

Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street
Boston, MA 02215-3693

617-747-2485 (office)
774-488-9166 (cell)

____________________________________

____________________________________

On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Steven Yi wrote:

Hi All,

I was reading through this article by Jean-Claude Risset:

http://www.utexas.edu/cola/insts/france-ut/_files/pdf/resources/risset_2.pdf

It has a great section regarding scores and for me, it underlines a
key importance of using tools that allow for long-term viability for
later understanding and preserving our work:

"This issue  of  passing information  and  know-how is  crucial. A
MUSIC V  score  (this  also
applies for scores of other synthesis programs such as CSOUND  or
CLM)  gives complete
information about the sounds and their elaboration. Analyzing scores
is an  essential  part  of
teaching - or learning - composition. MUSIC V, CSOUND or CLM scores
can  be  analyzed
by composers interested in recipes for sound  synthesis  and in the
compositional elaboration
of sonic structures. Computer synthesis of sound would remain very
primitive and unmusical
if explorers had not  shared the  know-how  they  developed. Today,  a
considerable body  of
know-how is disseminated around C-Sound..."

The rest of the article is quite a fascinating read; would recommend
to anyone who is using Csound who hasn't read the article yet!

Thanks,
steven


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Date2011-10-05 13:46
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Csnd] On enduring work (from Jean-Claude Risset's "Why?")
That would be over the moon.

Best,
Mike

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
 wrote:
> Thanks Steven,
> I pass this out "every" semester to my Csounders.
> Jean-Claude has been into Csound now for some time and has always been
> pleased with the fact
> that his "catalog" was converted over from MusicV.
> Maybe we can have him as a guest at the next Csound conference?
> -dB
>
> ___________________________________
> Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.
> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
> Berklee College of Music
> 1140 Boylston Street
> Boston, MA 02215-3693
> 617-747-2485 (office)
> 774-488-9166 (cell)
> rboulanger@berklee.edu
> http://csounds.com/boulanger
> ____________________________________
> http://csounds.com/mathews
> ____________________________________
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Steven Yi wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I was reading through this article by Jean-Claude Risset:
>
> http://www.utexas.edu/cola/insts/france-ut/_files/pdf/resources/risset_2.pdf
>
> It has a great section regarding scores and for me, it underlines a
> key importance of using tools that allow for long-term viability for
> later understanding and preserving our work:
>
> "This issue  of  passing information  and  know-how is  crucial. A
> MUSIC V  score  (this  also
> applies for scores of other synthesis programs such as CSOUND  or
> CLM)  gives complete
> information about the sounds and their elaboration. Analyzing scores
> is an  essential  part  of
> teaching - or learning - composition. MUSIC V, CSOUND or CLM scores
> can  be  analyzed
> by composers interested in recipes for sound  synthesis  and in the
> compositional elaboration
> of sonic structures. Computer synthesis of sound would remain very
> primitive and unmusical
> if explorers had not  shared the  know-how  they  developed. Today,  a
> considerable body  of
> know-how is disseminated around C-Sound..."
>
> The rest of the article is quite a fascinating read; would recommend
> to anyone who is using Csound who hasn't read the article yet!
>
> Thanks,
> steven
>
>
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>
>



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Date2011-10-05 13:49
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] On enduring work (from Jean-Claude Risset's "Why?")
But note that what he means by scores is both orchestra and score in  
Csound.
Great article.

Victor

On 5 Oct 2011, at 13:36, Steven Yi wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I was reading through this article by Jean-Claude Risset:
>
> http://www.utexas.edu/cola/insts/france-ut/_files/pdf/resources/risset_2.pdf
>
> It has a great section regarding scores and for me, it underlines a
> key importance of using tools that allow for long-term viability for
> later understanding and preserving our work:
>
> "This issue  of  passing information  and  know-how is  crucial. A
> MUSIC V  score  (this  also
> applies for scores of other synthesis programs such as CSOUND  or
> CLM)  gives complete
> information about the sounds and their elaboration. Analyzing scores
> is an  essential  part  of
> teaching - or learning - composition. MUSIC V, CSOUND or CLM scores
> can  be  analyzed
> by composers interested in recipes for sound  synthesis  and in the
> compositional elaboration
> of sonic structures. Computer synthesis of sound would remain very
> primitive and unmusical
> if explorers had not  shared the  know-how  they  developed. Today,  a
> considerable body  of
> know-how is disseminated around C-Sound..."
>
> The rest of the article is quite a fascinating read; would recommend
> to anyone who is using Csound who hasn't read the article yet!
>
> Thanks,
> steven
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie





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Date2011-10-05 13:58
FromSteven Yi
SubjectRe: [Csnd] On enduring work (from Jean-Claude Risset's "Why?")
Agreed, it would be fantastic to have him as a featured speaker at the
next Csound conference!

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Michael Gogins  wrote:
> That would be over the moon.
>
> Best,
> Mike
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>  wrote:
>> Thanks Steven,
>> I pass this out "every" semester to my Csounders.
>> Jean-Claude has been into Csound now for some time and has always been
>> pleased with the fact
>> that his "catalog" was converted over from MusicV.
>> Maybe we can have him as a guest at the next Csound conference?
>> -dB
>>
>> ___________________________________
>> Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.
>> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
>> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
>> Berklee College of Music
>> 1140 Boylston Street
>> Boston, MA 02215-3693
>> 617-747-2485 (office)
>> 774-488-9166 (cell)
>> rboulanger@berklee.edu
>> http://csounds.com/boulanger
>> ____________________________________
>> http://csounds.com/mathews
>> ____________________________________
>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Steven Yi wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was reading through this article by Jean-Claude Risset:
>>
>> http://www.utexas.edu/cola/insts/france-ut/_files/pdf/resources/risset_2.pdf
>>
>> It has a great section regarding scores and for me, it underlines a
>> key importance of using tools that allow for long-term viability for
>> later understanding and preserving our work:
>>
>> "This issue  of  passing information  and  know-how is  crucial. A
>> MUSIC V  score  (this  also
>> applies for scores of other synthesis programs such as CSOUND  or
>> CLM)  gives complete
>> information about the sounds and their elaboration. Analyzing scores
>> is an  essential  part  of
>> teaching - or learning - composition. MUSIC V, CSOUND or CLM scores
>> can  be  analyzed
>> by composers interested in recipes for sound  synthesis  and in the
>> compositional elaboration
>> of sonic structures. Computer synthesis of sound would remain very
>> primitive and unmusical
>> if explorers had not  shared the  know-how  they  developed. Today,  a
>> considerable body  of
>> know-how is disseminated around C-Sound..."
>>
>> The rest of the article is quite a fascinating read; would recommend
>> to anyone who is using Csound who hasn't read the article yet!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> steven
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
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> Irreducible Productions
> http://www.michael-gogins.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
>
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Date2011-10-05 14:08
Fromluis jure
SubjectRe: [Csnd] On enduring work (from Jean-Claude Risset's "Why?")
on 2011-10-05 at 08:46 Michael Gogins wrote:

>That would be over the moon.

i second that! more reasons to wish to attend the next conference!
risset's contribution to the development of sound synthesis techniques
-through a better understanding of the acoustics and psychoacoustics of
timbre- has been paramount. and he's such a wonderful person!



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Date2011-10-05 14:51
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Csnd] On enduring work (from Jean-Claude Risset's "Why?")
Yes please!

P

On 5 October 2011 14:08, luis jure  wrote:
>
> on 2011-10-05 at 08:46 Michael Gogins wrote:
>
>>That would be over the moon.
>
> i second that! more reasons to wish to attend the next conference!
> risset's contribution to the development of sound synthesis techniques
> -through a better understanding of the acoustics and psychoacoustics of
> timbre- has been paramount. and he's such a wonderful person!
>
>
>
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Date2011-10-05 15:03
Fromandreas russo
Subject[Csnd] F-table interpolation
Hello Csounders,

I'm trying to use my Wii Remote (connected to Osculator) to have my grain2 instrument interpolate its function table between a sine and a square.
unfortunately I can't make that happen.
I wrote the f-tables in the orchestra and assigned them a kvalue, but all I seem to get is a fixed table at a lower volume.

my Wiimote is supposed to control the F-tables with the pitch function, which is assigned to CC1 (you can see it initialized with a value of 64).

I tried assigning kfn (which is assigned to the pitch axis on the wiimote) a value of 1 to 2 as well (the numbers of the f-tables), but the same thing happens.

any suggestions?




sr	 =	44100
kr	 =	4410
nchnls	= 2
0dbfs	 =	1
ctrlinit 1, 0,64, 1,64
instr 1

gif1 ftgen 1, 0, 4096, 10, 1 ;sine
gif2 ftgen 2, 0, 256, 7, -1, 128, -1, 0, 1, 128, 1 ;square

kf1	=	gif1
kf2	=	gif2

kgdur	ctrl7 1, 0, .001, .05
kfn	ctrl7 1, 1, kf1, kf2
icps	 cpsmidi

/*···Granular···*/
agran grain2 icps, icps*.02, kgdur, 1/*overlapl*/, kfn, 1, .5, 22, 2
outs	agran, agran
endin



f0	999




Andreas

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Date2011-10-05 17:35
Fromjoachim heintz
SubjectRe: [Csnd] On enduring work (from Jean-Claude Risset's "Why?")
excellent idea. i actually forgot it for this conference. he has been
guest at hmtm hannover some years ago, for a workshop, and for a concert
in which he played also himself pieces of messiaen on piano (and *so*
well!). and i could invite him for a sound installation last year in
hannover.
would be great to see him in boston next year!!!

	j


Am 05.10.2011 14:42, schrieb Dr. Richard Boulanger:
> Thanks Steven,
> 
> I pass this out "every" semester to my Csounders.
> 
> Jean-Claude has been into Csound now for some time and has always been
> pleased with the fact
> that his "catalog" was converted over from MusicV.
> 
> Maybe we can have him as a guest at the next Csound conference?
> 
> -dB
> *
> ___________________________________*
> *
> *
> *Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.*
> *
> *
> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
> Berklee College of Music
> 1140 Boylston Street
> Boston, MA 02215-3693
> 
> 617-747-2485 (office)
> 774-488-9166 (cell)
> 
> rboulanger@berklee.edu 
> http://csounds.com/boulanger
> ____________________________________
> 
> http://csounds.com/mathews
> ____________________________________
> 
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Steven Yi wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was reading through this article by Jean-Claude Risset:
>>
>> http://www.utexas.edu/cola/insts/france-ut/_files/pdf/resources/risset_2.pdf
>>
>> It has a great section regarding scores and for me, it underlines a
>> key importance of using tools that allow for long-term viability for
>> later understanding and preserving our work:
>>
>> "This issue  of  passing information  and  know-how is  crucial. A
>> MUSIC V  score  (this  also
>> applies for scores of other synthesis programs such as CSOUND  or
>> CLM)  gives complete
>> information about the sounds and their elaboration. Analyzing scores
>> is an  essential  part  of
>> teaching - or learning - composition. MUSIC V, CSOUND or CLM scores
>> can  be  analyzed
>> by composers interested in recipes for sound  synthesis  and in the
>> compositional elaboration
>> of sonic structures. Computer synthesis of sound would remain very
>> primitive and unmusical
>> if explorers had not  shared the  know-how  they  developed. Today,  a
>> considerable body  of
>> know-how is disseminated around C-Sound..."
>>
>> The rest of the article is quite a fascinating read; would recommend
>> to anyone who is using Csound who hasn't read the article yet!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> steven
>>
>>
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> 


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Date2011-10-05 21:24
FromIain McCurdy
SubjectRE: [Csnd] F-table interpolation
Hi Andreas,

grain2's kfn won't morph between tables using its fractional value, it will just use the table corresponding to the integer part of kfn.
Maybe using ftmorph to morph the table used by grain2 is what you are after. Something like this:

instr 1
gif1 ftgen 1, 0, 4096, 10, 1 ;sine
gif2 ftgen 2, 0, 4096, 7, -1, 128, -1, 0, 1, 128, 1 ;square (table need to be the same size)
gitabnums ftgen 3,0,2,-2,gif1 ,gif2
gimorftab ftgen 4, 0, 4096, 10, 1 ;this table will be morphed by ftmorph anyway so it doesn't matter what it is to start with
;it must be the same size as the source tables though

kgdur ctrl7 1, 0, .001, .05
kfn ctrl7 1, 1, 0, 1 ;index range for gitabnums is 0 - 1
icps cpsmidi
ftmorf kfn, gitabnums, gimorftab

/*···Granular···*/
agran grain2 icps, icps*.02, kgdur, 1/*overlapl*/, gimorftab, 1, .5, 22, 2

haven't tested but should be okay,
Iain


> From: andreasrusso@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 10:03:35 -0400
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Subject: [Csnd] F-table interpolation
>
> Hello Csounders,
>
> I'm trying to use my Wii Remote (connected to Osculator) to have my grain2 instrument interpolate its function table between a sine and a square.
> unfortunately I can't make that happen.
> I wrote the f-tables in the orchestra and assigned them a kvalue, but all I seem to get is a fixed table at a lower volume.
>
> my Wiimote is supposed to control the F-tables with the pitch function, which is assigned to CC1 (you can see it initialized with a value of 64).
>
> I tried assigning kfn (which is assigned to the pitch axis on the wiimote) a value of 1 to 2 as well (the numbers of the f-tables), but the same thing happens.
>
> any suggestions?
>
>
> <CsoundSynthesizer>
> <CsInstruments>
> sr = 44100
> kr = 4410
> nchnls = 2
> 0dbfs = 1
> ctrlinit 1, 0,64, 1,64
> instr 1
>
> gif1 ftgen 1, 0, 4096, 10, 1 ;sine
> gif2 ftgen 2, 0, 256, 7, -1, 128, -1, 0, 1, 128, 1 ;square
>
> kf1 = gif1
> kf2 = gif2
>
> kgdur ctrl7 1, 0, .001, .05
> kfn ctrl7 1, 1, kf1, kf2
> icps cpsmidi
>
> /*···Granular···*/
> agran grain2 icps, icps*.02, kgdur, 1/*overlapl*/, kfn, 1, .5, 22, 2
> outs agran, agran
> endin
>
> </CsInstruments>
> <CsScore>
> f0 999
> </CsScore>
> </CsoundSynthesizer>
>
>
> Andreas
>
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Date2011-10-05 21:27
Frommatt ingalls
SubjectRe: [Csnd] On enduring work (from Jean-Claude Risset's "Why?")
i believe he still uses MUSIC V, correct?

On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:35 AM, joachim heintz wrote:

> excellent idea. i actually forgot it for this conference. he has been
> guest at hmtm hannover some years ago, for a workshop, and for a concert
> in which he played also himself pieces of messiaen on piano (and *so*
> well!). and i could invite him for a sound installation last year in
> hannover.
> would be great to see him in boston next year!!!
> 
> 	j
> 
> 
> Am 05.10.2011 14:42, schrieb Dr. Richard Boulanger:
>> Thanks Steven,
>> 
>> I pass this out "every" semester to my Csounders.
>> 
>> Jean-Claude has been into Csound now for some time and has always been
>> pleased with the fact
>> that his "catalog" was converted over from MusicV.
>> 
>> Maybe we can have him as a guest at the next Csound conference?
>> 
>> -dB
>> *
>> ___________________________________*
>> *
>> *
>> *Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.*
>> *
>> *
>> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
>> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
>> Berklee College of Music
>> 1140 Boylston Street
>> Boston, MA 02215-3693
>> 
>> 617-747-2485 (office)
>> 774-488-9166 (cell)
>> 
>> rboulanger@berklee.edu 
>> http://csounds.com/boulanger
>> ____________________________________
>> 
>> http://csounds.com/mathews
>> ____________________________________
>> 
>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Steven Yi wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I was reading through this article by Jean-Claude Risset:
>>> 
>>> http://www.utexas.edu/cola/insts/france-ut/_files/pdf/resources/risset_2.pdf
>>> 
>>> It has a great section regarding scores and for me, it underlines a
>>> key importance of using tools that allow for long-term viability for
>>> later understanding and preserving our work:
>>> 
>>> "This issue  of  passing information  and  know-how is  crucial. A
>>> MUSIC V  score  (this  also
>>> applies for scores of other synthesis programs such as CSOUND  or
>>> CLM)  gives complete
>>> information about the sounds and their elaboration. Analyzing scores
>>> is an  essential  part  of
>>> teaching - or learning - composition. MUSIC V, CSOUND or CLM scores
>>> can  be  analyzed
>>> by composers interested in recipes for sound  synthesis  and in the
>>> compositional elaboration
>>> of sonic structures. Computer synthesis of sound would remain very
>>> primitive and unmusical
>>> if explorers had not  shared the  know-how  they  developed. Today,  a
>>> considerable body  of
>>> know-how is disseminated around C-Sound..."
>>> 
>>> The rest of the article is quite a fascinating read; would recommend
>>> to anyone who is using Csound who hasn't read the article yet!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> steven
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>> 
> 
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Date2011-10-05 21:40
Fromjoachim heintz
SubjectRe: [Csnd] On enduring work (from Jean-Claude Risset's "Why?")
he said last year he wanted to switch to csound as music v didn't run
any more on modern platforms (if i understood him right). but i don't
know if he did this step.


Am 05.10.2011 22:27, schrieb matt ingalls:
> i believe he still uses MUSIC V, correct?
> 
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:35 AM, joachim heintz wrote:
> 
>> excellent idea. i actually forgot it for this conference. he has been
>> guest at hmtm hannover some years ago, for a workshop, and for a concert
>> in which he played also himself pieces of messiaen on piano (and *so*
>> well!). and i could invite him for a sound installation last year in
>> hannover.
>> would be great to see him in boston next year!!!
>>
>> 	j
>>
>>
>> Am 05.10.2011 14:42, schrieb Dr. Richard Boulanger:
>>> Thanks Steven,
>>>
>>> I pass this out "every" semester to my Csounders.
>>>
>>> Jean-Claude has been into Csound now for some time and has always been
>>> pleased with the fact
>>> that his "catalog" was converted over from MusicV.
>>>
>>> Maybe we can have him as a guest at the next Csound conference?
>>>
>>> -dB
>>> *
>>> ___________________________________*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
>>> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
>>> Berklee College of Music
>>> 1140 Boylston Street
>>> Boston, MA 02215-3693
>>>
>>> 617-747-2485 (office)
>>> 774-488-9166 (cell)
>>>
>>> rboulanger@berklee.edu 
>>> http://csounds.com/boulanger
>>> ____________________________________
>>>
>>> http://csounds.com/mathews
>>> ____________________________________
>>>
>>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Steven Yi wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I was reading through this article by Jean-Claude Risset:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.utexas.edu/cola/insts/france-ut/_files/pdf/resources/risset_2.pdf
>>>>
>>>> It has a great section regarding scores and for me, it underlines a
>>>> key importance of using tools that allow for long-term viability for
>>>> later understanding and preserving our work:
>>>>
>>>> "This issue  of  passing information  and  know-how is  crucial. A
>>>> MUSIC V  score  (this  also
>>>> applies for scores of other synthesis programs such as CSOUND  or
>>>> CLM)  gives complete
>>>> information about the sounds and their elaboration. Analyzing scores
>>>> is an  essential  part  of
>>>> teaching - or learning - composition. MUSIC V, CSOUND or CLM scores
>>>> can  be  analyzed
>>>> by composers interested in recipes for sound  synthesis  and in the
>>>> compositional elaboration
>>>> of sonic structures. Computer synthesis of sound would remain very
>>>> primitive and unmusical
>>>> if explorers had not  shared the  know-how  they  developed. Today,  a
>>>> considerable body  of
>>>> know-how is disseminated around C-Sound..."
>>>>
>>>> The rest of the article is quite a fascinating read; would recommend
>>>> to anyone who is using Csound who hasn't read the article yet!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> steven
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>>
>>
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Date2011-10-05 21:44
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] On enduring work (from Jean-Claude Risset's "Why?")
I have Music V on my OSX

On 5 Oct 2011, at 21:40, joachim heintz wrote:

> he said last year he wanted to switch to csound as music v didn't run
> any more on modern platforms (if i understood him right). but i don't
> know if he did this step.
>
>
> Am 05.10.2011 22:27, schrieb matt ingalls:
>> i believe he still uses MUSIC V, correct?
>>
>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:35 AM, joachim heintz wrote:
>>
>>> excellent idea. i actually forgot it for this conference. he has  
>>> been
>>> guest at hmtm hannover some years ago, for a workshop, and for a  
>>> concert
>>> in which he played also himself pieces of messiaen on piano (and  
>>> *so*
>>> well!). and i could invite him for a sound installation last year in
>>> hannover.
>>> would be great to see him in boston next year!!!
>>>
>>> 	j
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 05.10.2011 14:42, schrieb Dr. Richard Boulanger:
>>>> Thanks Steven,
>>>>
>>>> I pass this out "every" semester to my Csounders.
>>>>
>>>> Jean-Claude has been into Csound now for some time and has always  
>>>> been
>>>> pleased with the fact
>>>> that his "catalog" was converted over from MusicV.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we can have him as a guest at the next Csound conference?
>>>>
>>>> -dB
>>>> *
>>>> ___________________________________*
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.*
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
>>>> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
>>>> Berklee College of Music
>>>> 1140 Boylston Street
>>>> Boston, MA 02215-3693
>>>>
>>>> 617-747-2485 (office)
>>>> 774-488-9166 (cell)
>>>>
>>>> rboulanger@berklee.edu 
>>>> http://csounds.com/boulanger
>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>
>>>> http://csounds.com/mathews
>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Steven Yi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was reading through this article by Jean-Claude Risset:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.utexas.edu/cola/insts/france-ut/_files/pdf/resources/risset_2.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> It has a great section regarding scores and for me, it  
>>>>> underlines a
>>>>> key importance of using tools that allow for long-term viability  
>>>>> for
>>>>> later understanding and preserving our work:
>>>>>
>>>>> "This issue  of  passing information  and  know-how is  crucial. A
>>>>> MUSIC V  score  (this  also
>>>>> applies for scores of other synthesis programs such as CSOUND  or
>>>>> CLM)  gives complete
>>>>> information about the sounds and their elaboration. Analyzing  
>>>>> scores
>>>>> is an  essential  part  of
>>>>> teaching - or learning - composition. MUSIC V, CSOUND or CLM  
>>>>> scores
>>>>> can  be  analyzed
>>>>> by composers interested in recipes for sound  synthesis  and in  
>>>>> the
>>>>> compositional elaboration
>>>>> of sonic structures. Computer synthesis of sound would remain very
>>>>> primitive and unmusical
>>>>> if explorers had not  shared the  know-how  they  developed.  
>>>>> Today,  a
>>>>> considerable body  of
>>>>> know-how is disseminated around C-Sound..."
>>>>>
>>>>> The rest of the article is quite a fascinating read; would  
>>>>> recommend
>>>>> to anyone who is using Csound who hasn't read the article yet!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> steven
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>          https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
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>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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Date2011-10-05 21:52
Fromandreas russo
SubjectRe: [Csnd] F-table interpolation
I don't entirely understand why that works, but that has to do with my f-tables-related ignorance.
I'm going to investigate right away.

thanks so much for the effort Iain!

andreas

On Oct 5, 2011, at 16:24, Iain McCurdy wrote:

Hi Andreas,

grain2's kfn won't morph between tables using its fractional value, it will just use the table corresponding to the integer part of kfn.
Maybe using ftmorph to morph the table used by grain2 is what you are after. Something like this:

instr 1
gif1 ftgen 1, 0, 4096, 10, 1 ;sine
gif2 ftgen 2, 0, 4096, 7, -1, 128, -1, 0, 1, 128, 1 ;square (table need to be the same size)
gitabnums ftgen 3,0,2,-2,gif1 ,gif2
gimorftab ftgen 4, 0, 4096, 10, 1 ;this table will be morphed by ftmorph anyway so it doesn't matter what it is to start with
;it must be the same size as the source tables though

kgdur ctrl7 1, 0, .001, .05
kfn ctrl7 1, 1, 0, 1 ;index range for gitabnums is 0 - 1
icps cpsmidi
ftmorf kfn, gitabnums, gimorftab

/*···Granular···*/
agran grain2 icps, icps*.02, kgdur, 1/*overlapl*/, gimorftab, 1, .5, 22, 2

haven't tested but should be okay,
Iain


> From: andreasrusso@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 10:03:35 -0400
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Subject: [Csnd] F-table interpolation
> 
> Hello Csounders,
> 
> I'm trying to use my Wii Remote (connected to Osculator) to have my grain2 instrument interpolate its function table between a sine and a square.
> unfortunately I can't make that happen.
> I wrote the f-tables in the orchestra and assigned them a kvalue, but all I seem to get is a fixed table at a lower volume.
> 
> my Wiimote is supposed to control the F-tables with the pitch function, which is assigned to CC1 (you can see it initialized with a value of 64).
> 
> I tried assigning kfn (which is assigned to the pitch axis on the wiimote) a value of 1 to 2 as well (the numbers of the f-tables), but the same thing happens.
> 
> any suggestions?
> 
> 
> <CsoundSynthesizer>
> <CsInstruments>
> sr = 44100
> kr = 4410
> nchnls = 2
> 0dbfs = 1
> ctrlinit 1, 0,64, 1,64
> instr 1
> 
> gif1 ftgen 1, 0, 4096, 10, 1 ;sine
> gif2 ftgen 2, 0, 256, 7, -1, 128, -1, 0, 1, 128, 1 ;square
> 
> kf1 = gif1
> kf2 = gif2
> 
> kgdur ctrl7 1, 0, .001, .05
> kfn ctrl7 1, 1, kf1, kf2
> icps cpsmidi
> 
> /*···Granular···*/
> agran grain2 icps, icps*.02, kgdur, 1/*overlapl*/, kfn, 1, .5, 22, 2
> outs agran, agran
> endin
> 
> </CsInstruments>
> <CsScore>
> f0 999
> </CsScore>
> </CsoundSynthesizer>
> 
> 
> Andreas
> 
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Date2011-10-06 15:13
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Csnd] On enduring work (from Jean-Claude Risset's "Why?")
and Csound

___________________________________

Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.

Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street
Boston, MA 02215-3693

617-747-2485 (office)
774-488-9166 (cell)

____________________________________

____________________________________

On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:27 PM, matt ingalls wrote:

i believe he still uses MUSIC V, correct?

On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:35 AM, joachim heintz wrote:

excellent idea. i actually forgot it for this conference. he has been
guest at hmtm hannover some years ago, for a workshop, and for a concert
in which he played also himself pieces of messiaen on piano (and *so*
well!). and i could invite him for a sound installation last year in
hannover.
would be great to see him in boston next year!!!

j


Am 05.10.2011 14:42, schrieb Dr. Richard Boulanger:
Thanks Steven,

I pass this out "every" semester to my Csounders.

Jean-Claude has been into Csound now for some time and has always been
pleased with the fact
that his "catalog" was converted over from MusicV.

Maybe we can have him as a guest at the next Csound conference?

-dB
*
___________________________________*
*
*
*Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.*
*
*
Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street
Boston, MA 02215-3693

617-747-2485 (office)
774-488-9166 (cell)

rboulanger@berklee.edu <mailto:rboulanger@berklee.edu>
http://csounds.com/boulanger
____________________________________

http://csounds.com/mathews
____________________________________

On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Steven Yi wrote:

Hi All,

I was reading through this article by Jean-Claude Risset:

http://www.utexas.edu/cola/insts/france-ut/_files/pdf/resources/risset_2.pdf

It has a great section regarding scores and for me, it underlines a
key importance of using tools that allow for long-term viability for
later understanding and preserving our work:

"This issue  of  passing information  and  know-how is  crucial. A
MUSIC V  score  (this  also
applies for scores of other synthesis programs such as CSOUND  or
CLM)  gives complete
information about the sounds and their elaboration. Analyzing scores
is an  essential  part  of
teaching - or learning - composition. MUSIC V, CSOUND or CLM scores
can  be  analyzed
by composers interested in recipes for sound  synthesis  and in the
compositional elaboration
of sonic structures. Computer synthesis of sound would remain very
primitive and unmusical
if explorers had not  shared the  know-how  they  developed. Today,  a
considerable body  of
know-how is disseminated around C-Sound..."

The rest of the article is quite a fascinating read; would recommend
to anyone who is using Csound who hasn't read the article yet!

Thanks,
steven


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Date2011-10-07 01:47
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Csnd] On enduring work (from Jean-Claude Risset's "Why?")
Thanks to Victor, and Max Mathews... MusicV is distributed on the DVD of The Audio Programming Book and it compiles and runs under OSX.

___________________________________

Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.

Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street
Boston, MA 02215-3693

617-747-2485 (office)
774-488-9166 (cell)

____________________________________

____________________________________

On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

I have Music V on my OSX

On 5 Oct 2011, at 21:40, joachim heintz wrote:

he said last year he wanted to switch to csound as music v didn't run
any more on modern platforms (if i understood him right). but i don't
know if he did this step.


Am 05.10.2011 22:27, schrieb matt ingalls:
i believe he still uses MUSIC V, correct?

On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:35 AM, joachim heintz wrote:

excellent idea. i actually forgot it for this conference. he has been
guest at hmtm hannover some years ago, for a workshop, and for a concert
in which he played also himself pieces of messiaen on piano (and *so*
well!). and i could invite him for a sound installation last year in
hannover.
would be great to see him in boston next year!!!

j


Am 05.10.2011 14:42, schrieb Dr. Richard Boulanger:
Thanks Steven,

I pass this out "every" semester to my Csounders.

Jean-Claude has been into Csound now for some time and has always been
pleased with the fact
that his "catalog" was converted over from MusicV.

Maybe we can have him as a guest at the next Csound conference?

-dB
*
___________________________________*
*
*
*Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.*
*
*
Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street
Boston, MA 02215-3693

617-747-2485 (office)
774-488-9166 (cell)

rboulanger@berklee.edu <mailto:rboulanger@berklee.edu>
http://csounds.com/boulanger
____________________________________

http://csounds.com/mathews
____________________________________

On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Steven Yi wrote:

Hi All,

I was reading through this article by Jean-Claude Risset:

http://www.utexas.edu/cola/insts/france-ut/_files/pdf/resources/risset_2.pdf

It has a great section regarding scores and for me, it underlines a
key importance of using tools that allow for long-term viability for
later understanding and preserving our work:

"This issue  of  passing information  and  know-how is  crucial. A
MUSIC V  score  (this  also
applies for scores of other synthesis programs such as CSOUND  or
CLM)  gives complete
information about the sounds and their elaboration. Analyzing scores
is an  essential  part  of
teaching - or learning - composition. MUSIC V, CSOUND or CLM scores
can  be  analyzed
by composers interested in recipes for sound  synthesis  and in the
compositional elaboration
of sonic structures. Computer synthesis of sound would remain very
primitive and unmusical
if explorers had not  shared the  know-how  they  developed. Today,  a
considerable body  of
know-how is disseminated around C-Sound..."

The rest of the article is quite a fascinating read; would recommend
to anyone who is using Csound who hasn't read the article yet!

Thanks,
steven


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Date2011-10-19 02:31
Fromandreas russo
Subject[Csnd] pvsfreeze
hello list,

I am using the pvsfreeze opcode and I'm getting some issues with the kfreezf parameter (actually depicted in the manual as kfcf).
I'm streaming an .aif file in pvsfreeze through pvsanal and controlling kfreeza and kfreezf with buttons on the Wiiremote.
basically, when simply streaming the file and maybe freezing the amplitude (kfreeza), everything proceeds smoothly, but the problem comes when freezing the frequency (kfreezf): after I do that, I release the frequency freeze button, the file is still playing, but now it sounds slightly out of phase. it might not be exactly phase, but there are certainly some artifacts added after freezing kfreezf.
if I render the patch again and simply let the file stream, or play with the amplitude freeze, I don't get any problem, but once the frequency is freezed even once, the artifacts come in.

here's part of the code:

ifftsize = 1024
ioverlap = ifftsize/4
iwinsize = 1024

fdl pvsanal ainDL, ifftsize, ioverlap, 1024, 1

kfreeza ctrl7 1, 51, 0, 1
kfreezf ctrl7 1, 52, 0, 1

fl1 pvsfreeze fdl, kfreeza+.5, kfreezf+.5

apcl1 pvsynth fl1


any suggestions?
cheers!

andreas

Date2011-10-19 07:09
Fromsaab@richardbowers.co.uk
SubjectRe: [Csnd] pvsfreeze
I'm not sure why you've got the 0.5 values in there. The parameter is simply an on/off switch 0/1. Am I missing something? I'd like to know because I'm using it myself at the moment.

Richard

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From: andreas russo <andreasrusso@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:31:26 -0400
To: <csound@lists.bath.ac.uk>
ReplyTo: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
Subject: [Csnd] pvsfreeze

hello list,

I am using the pvsfreeze opcode and I'm getting some issues with the kfreezf parameter (actually depicted in the manual as kfcf).
I'm streaming an .aif file in pvsfreeze through pvsanal and controlling kfreeza and kfreezf with buttons on the Wiiremote.
basically, when simply streaming the file and maybe freezing the amplitude (kfreeza), everything proceeds smoothly, but the problem comes when freezing the frequency (kfreezf): after I do that, I release the frequency freeze button, the file is still playing, but now it sounds slightly out of phase. it might not be exactly phase, but there are certainly some artifacts added after freezing kfreezf.
if I render the patch again and simply let the file stream, or play with the amplitude freeze, I don't get any problem, but once the frequency is freezed even once, the artifacts come in.

here's part of the code:

ifftsize = 1024
ioverlap = ifftsize/4
iwinsize = 1024

fdl pvsanal ainDL, ifftsize, ioverlap, 1024, 1

kfreeza ctrl7 1, 51, 0, 1
kfreezf ctrl7 1, 52, 0, 1

fl1 pvsfreeze fdl, kfreeza+.5, kfreezf+.5

apcl1 pvsynth fl1


any suggestions?
cheers!

andreas

Date2011-10-19 07:28
Fromandreas russo
SubjectRe: [Csnd] pvsfreeze
richard,
I forgot about that. the reason why there's that +.5 there is because in the first place I thought kfreeza and kfreezf had to be >1 for the freezing to take place. since my buttons on the Wiiremote are sending values of 0 to 1, I thought I could do that.
once realized the value had to be ≥1, I guess I just forgot to delete those, but anyway, that's not my problem, as even without that operation the "phase issue" persists.

andreas

On Oct 19, 2011, at 02:09, saab@richardbowers.co.uk wrote:

I'm not sure why you've got the 0.5 values in there. The parameter is simply an on/off switch 0/1. Am I missing something? I'd like to know because I'm using it myself at the moment.

Richard

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From: andreas russo <andreasrusso@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:31:26 -0400
Subject: [Csnd] pvsfreeze

hello list,

I am using the pvsfreeze opcode and I'm getting some issues with the kfreezf parameter (actually depicted in the manual as kfcf).
I'm streaming an .aif file in pvsfreeze through pvsanal and controlling kfreeza and kfreezf with buttons on the Wiiremote.
basically, when simply streaming the file and maybe freezing the amplitude (kfreeza), everything proceeds smoothly, but the problem comes when freezing the frequency (kfreezf): after I do that, I release the frequency freeze button, the file is still playing, but now it sounds slightly out of phase. it might not be exactly phase, but there are certainly some artifacts added after freezing kfreezf.
if I render the patch again and simply let the file stream, or play with the amplitude freeze, I don't get any problem, but once the frequency is freezed even once, the artifacts come in.

here's part of the code:

ifftsize = 1024
ioverlap = ifftsize/4
iwinsize = 1024

fdl pvsanal ainDL, ifftsize, ioverlap, 1024, 1

kfreeza ctrl7 1, 51, 0, 1
kfreezf ctrl7 1, 52, 0, 1

fl1 pvsfreeze fdl, kfreeza+.5, kfreezf+.5

apcl1 pvsynth fl1


any suggestions?
cheers!

andreas


Date2011-10-19 07:29
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] pvsfreeze
Well. I guess this is not guaranteed to be artifact-free, there could be some phasing effects.

Victor

On 19 Oct 2011, at 02:31, andreas russo wrote:

hello list,

I am using the pvsfreeze opcode and I'm getting some issues with the kfreezf parameter (actually depicted in the manual as kfcf).
I'm streaming an .aif file in pvsfreeze through pvsanal and controlling kfreeza and kfreezf with buttons on the Wiiremote.
basically, when simply streaming the file and maybe freezing the amplitude (kfreeza), everything proceeds smoothly, but the problem comes when freezing the frequency (kfreezf): after I do that, I release the frequency freeze button, the file is still playing, but now it sounds slightly out of phase. it might not be exactly phase, but there are certainly some artifacts added after freezing kfreezf.
if I render the patch again and simply let the file stream, or play with the amplitude freeze, I don't get any problem, but once the frequency is freezed even once, the artifacts come in.

here's part of the code:

ifftsize = 1024
ioverlap = ifftsize/4
iwinsize = 1024

fdl pvsanal ainDL, ifftsize, ioverlap, 1024, 1

kfreeza ctrl7 1, 51, 0, 1
kfreezf ctrl7 1, 52, 0, 1

fl1 pvsfreeze fdl, kfreeza+.5, kfreezf+.5

apcl1 pvsynth fl1


any suggestions?
cheers!

andreas

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie




Date2011-10-19 07:32
Fromandreas russo
SubjectRe: [Csnd] pvsfreeze
thanks victor,
I guess that rules out me creating the problem at least.

andreas

On Oct 19, 2011, at 02:29, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

Well. I guess this is not guaranteed to be artifact-free, there could be some phasing effects.

Victor

On 19 Oct 2011, at 02:31, andreas russo wrote:

hello list,

I am using the pvsfreeze opcode and I'm getting some issues with the kfreezf parameter (actually depicted in the manual as kfcf).
I'm streaming an .aif file in pvsfreeze through pvsanal and controlling kfreeza and kfreezf with buttons on the Wiiremote.
basically, when simply streaming the file and maybe freezing the amplitude (kfreeza), everything proceeds smoothly, but the problem comes when freezing the frequency (kfreezf): after I do that, I release the frequency freeze button, the file is still playing, but now it sounds slightly out of phase. it might not be exactly phase, but there are certainly some artifacts added after freezing kfreezf.
if I render the patch again and simply let the file stream, or play with the amplitude freeze, I don't get any problem, but once the frequency is freezed even once, the artifacts come in.

here's part of the code:

ifftsize = 1024
ioverlap = ifftsize/4
iwinsize = 1024

fdl pvsanal ainDL, ifftsize, ioverlap, 1024, 1

kfreeza ctrl7 1, 51, 0, 1
kfreezf ctrl7 1, 52, 0, 1

fl1 pvsfreeze fdl, kfreeza+.5, kfreezf+.5

apcl1 pvsynth fl1


any suggestions?
cheers!

andreas

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie





Date2011-10-19 07:44
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] pvsfreeze
Maybe you can try freezing amp & freq together. This might give less artifacts.

Victor
On 19 Oct 2011, at 07:32, andreas russo wrote:

thanks victor,
I guess that rules out me creating the problem at least.

andreas

On Oct 19, 2011, at 02:29, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

Well. I guess this is not guaranteed to be artifact-free, there could be some phasing effects.

Victor

On 19 Oct 2011, at 02:31, andreas russo wrote:

hello list,

I am using the pvsfreeze opcode and I'm getting some issues with the kfreezf parameter (actually depicted in the manual as kfcf).
I'm streaming an .aif file in pvsfreeze through pvsanal and controlling kfreeza and kfreezf with buttons on the Wiiremote.
basically, when simply streaming the file and maybe freezing the amplitude (kfreeza), everything proceeds smoothly, but the problem comes when freezing the frequency (kfreezf): after I do that, I release the frequency freeze button, the file is still playing, but now it sounds slightly out of phase. it might not be exactly phase, but there are certainly some artifacts added after freezing kfreezf.
if I render the patch again and simply let the file stream, or play with the amplitude freeze, I don't get any problem, but once the frequency is freezed even once, the artifacts come in.

here's part of the code:

ifftsize = 1024
ioverlap = ifftsize/4
iwinsize = 1024

fdl pvsanal ainDL, ifftsize, ioverlap, 1024, 1

kfreeza ctrl7 1, 51, 0, 1
kfreezf ctrl7 1, 52, 0, 1

fl1 pvsfreeze fdl, kfreeza+.5, kfreezf+.5

apcl1 pvsynth fl1


any suggestions?
cheers!

andreas

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie





Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie