csnd.jar is itself portable, but it is a wrapper to a native library.
It has the same issues as any JNI-based library.  For my software
blue, I use csnd.jar packaged with blue, and it is a matter of getting
the correct JNI path when starting up your program so that it will
find the .dll, .so, or .dylib that csnd.jar wraps.  You can either
distribute the native parts with your app, or set the JNI path.  For
example, you could use:

-Djava.library.path=/path/to/where/_jcsnd.so/is/located

as part of your executable string, so writing a .bat or .sh file that
executes your applcation would be good.

Java runtimes have a default place to put support and native
libraries, but they are different on each platform.  I believe blue
just worked out of the box on Windows, should do so with the next OSX
release, and with Linux requires some modification to locate where the
.so is.

steven

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Michele Nasti  wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm following the mailing list and i'm founding a lot of useful tips. Since
> my project is Java based, I have to ask you a little question. I have
> already mailed Jim Hearon (the author of some Java and CSound articles in
> the CSound Journal) but I ask here too.
> I have not understood if csnd.jar is "really" portable, the way java means.
> This question arises for two motives: the first is that csnd.jar is
> generated with SWIG starting from C sources, and I really don't know how
> this works. I simply use it as a black box. The second fact is that my
> application runs smoothly on linux, but I can't make it work on windows (for
> now). It complains about a _jcsound object, something that shouldn't
> complain since everything is packed into another .jar .
> Is there anybody that can confirm that csnd.jar is "really" portable? Or do
> I have to distribute 3 csnd.jar - one for linux, one for mac and another for
> windows?
> Thanks in advance.
> Michele Nasti


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Hi Michele,

No, the way I do it is only package the .jar file.  I depend on the
user having the .dll, .so, or .dylib installed, which is the case when
they have used the Sourceforge installer for Windows or OSX, or if
they have installed csound from repos (on Fedora, Debian, and Ubuntu
at least).  It's worked for me so far at least, though I am debating
moving to having blue download a version of csound for the platform
the user is on in the future.

The alternative is to package csound with your application, which is
possible but may be a bit more work. I think one of the todos after
this release is to start making zip packages for each platform for
application builders to use to bundles with their apps (at least, this
topic came up at the Csound Conference).

Let me know if you have any further questions!
steven

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Michele Nasti  wrote:
> Excuse me Steven, are you telling me that the only file that I need to
> include with my software is _jcsnd.so (.dll or .dylib) ? Is this the only
> file that I have to import for the three main operative systems? Do you
> already know where these are located or where I can find them on the web?
> Portability is crucial for my work, since it's target is made of blind
> people and it must be as easy as possible.
> Michele
>
> 2011/10/12 Michele Nasti 
>>
>> Hi Steven,
>> just to tell you that I downloaded the Blue source code and the binaries,
>> and it just worked out of the box. So I think that you have done a great job
>> :) I'm going to experiment with java paths in the next hours.
>> Thanks for your help!
>> Michele
>>
>> 2011/10/12 Steven Yi 
>>>
>>> csnd.jar is itself portable, but it is a wrapper to a native library.
>>> It has the same issues as any JNI-based library.  For my software
>>> blue, I use csnd.jar packaged with blue, and it is a matter of getting
>>> the correct JNI path when starting up your program so that it will
>>> find the .dll, .so, or .dylib that csnd.jar wraps.  You can either
>>> distribute the native parts with your app, or set the JNI path.  For
>>> example, you could use:
>>>
>>> -Djava.library.path=/path/to/where/_jcsnd.so/is/located
>>>
>>> as part of your executable string, so writing a .bat or .sh file that
>>> executes your applcation would be good.
>>>
>>> Java runtimes have a default place to put support and native
>>> libraries, but they are different on each platform.  I believe blue
>>> just worked out of the box on Windows, should do so with the next OSX
>>> release, and with Linux requires some modification to locate where the
>>> .so is.
>>>
>>> steven
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Michele Nasti 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi all,
>>> > I'm following the mailing list and i'm founding a lot of useful tips.
>>> > Since
>>> > my project is Java based, I have to ask you a little question. I have
>>> > already mailed Jim Hearon (the author of some Java and CSound articles
>>> > in
>>> > the CSound Journal) but I ask here too.
>>> > I have not understood if csnd.jar is "really" portable, the way java
>>> > means.
>>> > This question arises for two motives: the first is that csnd.jar is
>>> > generated with SWIG starting from C sources, and I really don't know
>>> > how
>>> > this works. I simply use it as a black box. The second fact is that my
>>> > application runs smoothly on linux, but I can't make it work on windows
>>> > (for
>>> > now). It complains about a _jcsound object, something that shouldn't
>>> > complain since everything is packed into another .jar .
>>> > Is there anybody that can confirm that csnd.jar is "really" portable?
>>> > Or do
>>> > I have to distribute 3 csnd.jar - one for linux, one for mac and
>>> > another for
>>> > windows?
>>> > Thanks in advance.
>>> > Michele Nasti
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>> csound"
>>>
>>
>
>


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On 10/13/2011 09:07 AM, Michele Nasti wrote:
>
> I was trying to make my .jar app work in windows, so I've installed a 
> default CSound from sourceforge (version is 5.13) on my Windows XP 
> machine (32bit). Java was installed easily from their website. These 
> are all default installs of the softwares.
> However the java virtual machine dies with a fatal error of this kind:
>
>

This looks like it may be due to your csound binary, it's the sort of 
message I got when I compiled Csound with support for the new parser.

Best,

dp



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Hi Michele,

One thing that is a tricky is that the csnd.jar isn't named
differently if csound was compiled with float or doubles.  One
possibility is that you might have a csnd.jar that was compiled for
float being used with doubles native library.  Try replacing whatever
csnd.jar you have been using with the one in blue (there should be a
blue/modules folder within the main blue directory that has it).

Otherwise, you can email me a copy of your project off list and I can
try to assist.

steven

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Michele Nasti  wrote:
> Hi Steven,
> I do have other questions, and I've seen in the Blue mailing list that you
> have already answered it somehow.
> I was trying to make my .jar app work in windows, so I've installed a
> default CSound from sourceforge (version is 5.13) on my Windows XP machine
> (32bit). Java was installed easily from their website. These are all default
> installs of the softwares.
> However the java virtual machine dies with a fatal error of this kind:
>>
>>  PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound
>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound
>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound
>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0
>> Csound version 5.13 (double samples) Feb 11 2011
>> libsndfile-1.0.23
>> #
>> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
>> #
>> #  EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x6f2345b0, pid=952,
>> tid=3768
>> #
>> # JRE version: 6.0_27-b07
>> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.2-b06 mixed mode windows-x86 )
>> # Problematic frame:
>> # C  [csound64.dll.5.2+0x745b0]
>> #
>> # An error report file with more information is saved as:
>> # H:\Documents and
>> Settings\Albino\Documenti\Dropbox\workspace\CSoundExperiment
>> \dist\hs_err_pid952.log
>> #
>> # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
>> #   http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp
>> # The crash happened outside the Java Virtual Machine in native code.
>> # See problematic frame for where to report the bug.
>> #
>
> If you want to see the .log file, I attach it to this email. Any ideas of
> what can be? It is "very" important that it runs on windows.
>
> 2011/10/12 Steven Yi 
>>
>> Hi Michele,
>>
>> No, the way I do it is only package the .jar file.  I depend on the
>> user having the .dll, .so, or .dylib installed, which is the case when
>> they have used the Sourceforge installer for Windows or OSX, or if
>> they have installed csound from repos (on Fedora, Debian, and Ubuntu
>> at least).  It's worked for me so far at least, though I am debating
>> moving to having blue download a version of csound for the platform
>> the user is on in the future.
>>
>> The alternative is to package csound with your application, which is
>> possible but may be a bit more work. I think one of the todos after
>> this release is to start making zip packages for each platform for
>> application builders to use to bundles with their apps (at least, this
>> topic came up at the Csound Conference).
>>
>> Let me know if you have any further questions!
>> steven
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Michele Nasti 
>> wrote:
>> > Excuse me Steven, are you telling me that the only file that I need to
>> > include with my software is _jcsnd.so (.dll or .dylib) ? Is this the
>> > only
>> > file that I have to import for the three main operative systems? Do you
>> > already know where these are located or where I can find them on the
>> > web?
>> > Portability is crucial for my work, since it's target is made of blind
>> > people and it must be as easy as possible.
>> > Michele
>> >
>> > 2011/10/12 Michele Nasti 
>> >>
>> >> Hi Steven,
>> >> just to tell you that I downloaded the Blue source code and the
>> >> binaries,
>> >> and it just worked out of the box. So I think that you have done a
>> >> great job
>> >> :) I'm going to experiment with java paths in the next hours.
>> >> Thanks for your help!
>> >> Michele
>> >>
>> >> 2011/10/12 Steven Yi 
>> >>>
>> >>> csnd.jar is itself portable, but it is a wrapper to a native library.
>> >>> It has the same issues as any JNI-based library.  For my software
>> >>> blue, I use csnd.jar packaged with blue, and it is a matter of getting
>> >>> the correct JNI path when starting up your program so that it will
>> >>> find the .dll, .so, or .dylib that csnd.jar wraps.  You can either
>> >>> distribute the native parts with your app, or set the JNI path.  For
>> >>> example, you could use:
>> >>>
>> >>> -Djava.library.path=/path/to/where/_jcsnd.so/is/located
>> >>>
>> >>> as part of your executable string, so writing a .bat or .sh file that
>> >>> executes your applcation would be good.
>> >>>
>> >>> Java runtimes have a default place to put support and native
>> >>> libraries, but they are different on each platform.  I believe blue
>> >>> just worked out of the box on Windows, should do so with the next OSX
>> >>> release, and with Linux requires some modification to locate where the
>> >>> .so is.
>> >>>
>> >>> steven
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Michele Nasti
>> >>> 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Hi all,
>> >>> > I'm following the mailing list and i'm founding a lot of useful
>> >>> > tips.
>> >>> > Since
>> >>> > my project is Java based, I have to ask you a little question. I
>> >>> > have
>> >>> > already mailed Jim Hearon (the author of some Java and CSound
>> >>> > articles
>> >>> > in
>> >>> > the CSound Journal) but I ask here too.
>> >>> > I have not understood if csnd.jar is "really" portable, the way java
>> >>> > means.
>> >>> > This question arises for two motives: the first is that csnd.jar is
>> >>> > generated with SWIG starting from C sources, and I really don't know
>> >>> > how
>> >>> > this works. I simply use it as a black box. The second fact is that
>> >>> > my
>> >>> > application runs smoothly on linux, but I can't make it work on
>> >>> > windows
>> >>> > (for
>> >>> > now). It complains about a _jcsound object, something that shouldn't
>> >>> > complain since everything is packed into another .jar .
>> >>> > Is there anybody that can confirm that csnd.jar is "really"
>> >>> > portable?
>> >>> > Or do
>> >>> > I have to distribute 3 csnd.jar - one for linux, one for mac and
>> >>> > another for
>> >>> > windows?
>> >>> > Thanks in advance.
>> >>> > Michele Nasti
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>> "unsubscribe
>> >>> csound"
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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>> csound"
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>
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pvstanal may not have been released until 5.13.  Have you tried 5.14?

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Michele Nasti  wrote:
> Steven, before giving you my project, I noted that on windows if I install
> CSound 5.12 it runs but it doesn't recognize the opcode pvstanal , while on
> linux (and maybe csound 5.13?) it works like a charm. I'm getting crazy
> !!!!
>
> 2011/10/13 Steven Yi 
>>
>> Hi Michele,
>>
>> One thing that is a tricky is that the csnd.jar isn't named
>> differently if csound was compiled with float or doubles.  One
>> possibility is that you might have a csnd.jar that was compiled for
>> float being used with doubles native library.  Try replacing whatever
>> csnd.jar you have been using with the one in blue (there should be a
>> blue/modules folder within the main blue directory that has it).
>>
>> Otherwise, you can email me a copy of your project off list and I can
>> try to assist.
>>
>> steven
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Michele Nasti 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Steven,
>> > I do have other questions, and I've seen in the Blue mailing list that
>> > you
>> > have already answered it somehow.
>> > I was trying to make my .jar app work in windows, so I've installed a
>> > default CSound from sourceforge (version is 5.13) on my Windows XP
>> > machine
>> > (32bit). Java was installed easily from their website. These are all
>> > default
>> > installs of the softwares.
>> > However the java virtual machine dies with a fatal error of this kind:
>> >>
>> >>  PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound
>> >> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound
>> >> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound
>> >> 0dBFS level = 32768.0
>> >> Csound version 5.13 (double samples) Feb 11 2011
>> >> libsndfile-1.0.23
>> >> #
>> >> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
>> >> #
>> >> #  EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x6f2345b0, pid=952,
>> >> tid=3768
>> >> #
>> >> # JRE version: 6.0_27-b07
>> >> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.2-b06 mixed mode windows-x86
>> >> )
>> >> # Problematic frame:
>> >> # C  [csound64.dll.5.2+0x745b0]
>> >> #
>> >> # An error report file with more information is saved as:
>> >> # H:\Documents and
>> >> Settings\Albino\Documenti\Dropbox\workspace\CSoundExperiment
>> >> \dist\hs_err_pid952.log
>> >> #
>> >> # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
>> >> #   http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp
>> >> # The crash happened outside the Java Virtual Machine in native code.
>> >> # See problematic frame for where to report the bug.
>> >> #
>> >
>> > If you want to see the .log file, I attach it to this email. Any ideas
>> > of
>> > what can be? It is "very" important that it runs on windows.
>> >
>> > 2011/10/12 Steven Yi 
>> >>
>> >> Hi Michele,
>> >>
>> >> No, the way I do it is only package the .jar file.  I depend on the
>> >> user having the .dll, .so, or .dylib installed, which is the case when
>> >> they have used the Sourceforge installer for Windows or OSX, or if
>> >> they have installed csound from repos (on Fedora, Debian, and Ubuntu
>> >> at least).  It's worked for me so far at least, though I am debating
>> >> moving to having blue download a version of csound for the platform
>> >> the user is on in the future.
>> >>
>> >> The alternative is to package csound with your application, which is
>> >> possible but may be a bit more work. I think one of the todos after
>> >> this release is to start making zip packages for each platform for
>> >> application builders to use to bundles with their apps (at least, this
>> >> topic came up at the Csound Conference).
>> >>
>> >> Let me know if you have any further questions!
>> >> steven
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Michele Nasti
>> >> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Excuse me Steven, are you telling me that the only file that I need
>> >> > to
>> >> > include with my software is _jcsnd.so (.dll or .dylib) ? Is this the
>> >> > only
>> >> > file that I have to import for the three main operative systems? Do
>> >> > you
>> >> > already know where these are located or where I can find them on the
>> >> > web?
>> >> > Portability is crucial for my work, since it's target is made of
>> >> > blind
>> >> > people and it must be as easy as possible.
>> >> > Michele
>> >> >
>> >> > 2011/10/12 Michele Nasti 
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Steven,
>> >> >> just to tell you that I downloaded the Blue source code and the
>> >> >> binaries,
>> >> >> and it just worked out of the box. So I think that you have done a
>> >> >> great job
>> >> >> :) I'm going to experiment with java paths in the next hours.
>> >> >> Thanks for your help!
>> >> >> Michele
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2011/10/12 Steven Yi 
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> csnd.jar is itself portable, but it is a wrapper to a native
>> >> >>> library.
>> >> >>> It has the same issues as any JNI-based library.  For my software
>> >> >>> blue, I use csnd.jar packaged with blue, and it is a matter of
>> >> >>> getting
>> >> >>> the correct JNI path when starting up your program so that it will
>> >> >>> find the .dll, .so, or .dylib that csnd.jar wraps.  You can either
>> >> >>> distribute the native parts with your app, or set the JNI path.
>> >> >>>  For
>> >> >>> example, you could use:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> -Djava.library.path=/path/to/where/_jcsnd.so/is/located
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> as part of your executable string, so writing a .bat or .sh file
>> >> >>> that
>> >> >>> executes your applcation would be good.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Java runtimes have a default place to put support and native
>> >> >>> libraries, but they are different on each platform.  I believe blue
>> >> >>> just worked out of the box on Windows, should do so with the next
>> >> >>> OSX
>> >> >>> release, and with Linux requires some modification to locate where
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> .so is.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> steven
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Michele Nasti
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > Hi all,
>> >> >>> > I'm following the mailing list and i'm founding a lot of useful
>> >> >>> > tips.
>> >> >>> > Since
>> >> >>> > my project is Java based, I have to ask you a little question. I
>> >> >>> > have
>> >> >>> > already mailed Jim Hearon (the author of some Java and CSound
>> >> >>> > articles
>> >> >>> > in
>> >> >>> > the CSound Journal) but I ask here too.
>> >> >>> > I have not understood if csnd.jar is "really" portable, the way
>> >> >>> > java
>> >> >>> > means.
>> >> >>> > This question arises for two motives: the first is that csnd.jar
>> >> >>> > is
>> >> >>> > generated with SWIG starting from C sources, and I really don't
>> >> >>> > know
>> >> >>> > how
>> >> >>> > this works. I simply use it as a black box. The second fact is
>> >> >>> > that
>> >> >>> > my
>> >> >>> > application runs smoothly on linux, but I can't make it work on
>> >> >>> > windows
>> >> >>> > (for
>> >> >>> > now). It complains about a _jcsound object, something that
>> >> >>> > shouldn't
>> >> >>> > complain since everything is packed into another .jar .
>> >> >>> > Is there anybody that can confirm that csnd.jar is "really"
>> >> >>> > portable?
>> >> >>> > Or do
>> >> >>> > I have to distribute 3 csnd.jar - one for linux, one for mac and
>> >> >>> > another for
>> >> >>> > windows?
>> >> >>> > Thanks in advance.
>> >> >>> > Michele Nasti
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >> >>> "unsubscribe
>> >> >>> csound"
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
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Hm, I'm not sure, but I did try downloading from Sourceforge just now
and it looks like the Windows 5.13.1 is still marked as the default
download for Windows.  I had to go into the 5.14 folder to explicitly
download 5.14.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Michele Nasti  wrote:
> I'm trying 5.14 but if I launch from command line I get csound 5.13 version.
> Maybe they forgot to change the string? :)
>
> 2011/10/13 Steven Yi 
>>
>> pvstanal may not have been released until 5.13.  Have you tried 5.14?
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Michele Nasti 
>> wrote:
>> > Steven, before giving you my project, I noted that on windows if I
>> > install
>> > CSound 5.12 it runs but it doesn't recognize the opcode pvstanal , while
>> > on
>> > linux (and maybe csound 5.13?) it works like a charm. I'm getting crazy
>> > !!!!
>> >
>> > 2011/10/13 Steven Yi 
>> >>
>> >> Hi Michele,
>> >>
>> >> One thing that is a tricky is that the csnd.jar isn't named
>> >> differently if csound was compiled with float or doubles.  One
>> >> possibility is that you might have a csnd.jar that was compiled for
>> >> float being used with doubles native library.  Try replacing whatever
>> >> csnd.jar you have been using with the one in blue (there should be a
>> >> blue/modules folder within the main blue directory that has it).
>> >>
>> >> Otherwise, you can email me a copy of your project off list and I can
>> >> try to assist.
>> >>
>> >> steven
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Michele Nasti
>> >> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi Steven,
>> >> > I do have other questions, and I've seen in the Blue mailing list
>> >> > that
>> >> > you
>> >> > have already answered it somehow.
>> >> > I was trying to make my .jar app work in windows, so I've installed a
>> >> > default CSound from sourceforge (version is 5.13) on my Windows XP
>> >> > machine
>> >> > (32bit). Java was installed easily from their website. These are all
>> >> > default
>> >> > installs of the softwares.
>> >> > However the java virtual machine dies with a fatal error of this
>> >> > kind:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound
>> >> >> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound
>> >> >> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound
>> >> >> 0dBFS level = 32768.0
>> >> >> Csound version 5.13 (double samples) Feb 11 2011
>> >> >> libsndfile-1.0.23
>> >> >> #
>> >> >> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
>> >> >> #
>> >> >> #  EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x6f2345b0,
>> >> >> pid=952,
>> >> >> tid=3768
>> >> >> #
>> >> >> # JRE version: 6.0_27-b07
>> >> >> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.2-b06 mixed mode
>> >> >> windows-x86
>> >> >> )
>> >> >> # Problematic frame:
>> >> >> # C  [csound64.dll.5.2+0x745b0]
>> >> >> #
>> >> >> # An error report file with more information is saved as:
>> >> >> # H:\Documents and
>> >> >> Settings\Albino\Documenti\Dropbox\workspace\CSoundExperiment
>> >> >> \dist\hs_err_pid952.log
>> >> >> #
>> >> >> # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
>> >> >> #   http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp
>> >> >> # The crash happened outside the Java Virtual Machine in native
>> >> >> code.
>> >> >> # See problematic frame for where to report the bug.
>> >> >> #
>> >> >
>> >> > If you want to see the .log file, I attach it to this email. Any
>> >> > ideas
>> >> > of
>> >> > what can be? It is "very" important that it runs on windows.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2011/10/12 Steven Yi 
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Michele,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No, the way I do it is only package the .jar file.  I depend on the
>> >> >> user having the .dll, .so, or .dylib installed, which is the case
>> >> >> when
>> >> >> they have used the Sourceforge installer for Windows or OSX, or if
>> >> >> they have installed csound from repos (on Fedora, Debian, and Ubuntu
>> >> >> at least).  It's worked for me so far at least, though I am debating
>> >> >> moving to having blue download a version of csound for the platform
>> >> >> the user is on in the future.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The alternative is to package csound with your application, which is
>> >> >> possible but may be a bit more work. I think one of the todos after
>> >> >> this release is to start making zip packages for each platform for
>> >> >> application builders to use to bundles with their apps (at least,
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> topic came up at the Csound Conference).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Let me know if you have any further questions!
>> >> >> steven
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Michele Nasti
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Excuse me Steven, are you telling me that the only file that I
>> >> >> > need
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > include with my software is _jcsnd.so (.dll or .dylib) ? Is this
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > only
>> >> >> > file that I have to import for the three main operative
>> >> >> > systems? Do
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > already know where these are located or where I can find them on
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > web?
>> >> >> > Portability is crucial for my work, since it's target is made of
>> >> >> > blind
>> >> >> > people and it must be as easy as possible.
>> >> >> > Michele
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2011/10/12 Michele Nasti 
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi Steven,
>> >> >> >> just to tell you that I downloaded the Blue source code and the
>> >> >> >> binaries,
>> >> >> >> and it just worked out of the box. So I think that you have done
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> great job
>> >> >> >> :) I'm going to experiment with java paths in the next hours.
>> >> >> >> Thanks for your help!
>> >> >> >> Michele
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 2011/10/12 Steven Yi 
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> csnd.jar is itself portable, but it is a wrapper to a native
>> >> >> >>> library.
>> >> >> >>> It has the same issues as any JNI-based library.  For my
>> >> >> >>> software
>> >> >> >>> blue, I use csnd.jar packaged with blue, and it is a matter of
>> >> >> >>> getting
>> >> >> >>> the correct JNI path when starting up your program so that it
>> >> >> >>> will
>> >> >> >>> find the .dll, .so, or .dylib that csnd.jar wraps.  You can
>> >> >> >>> either
>> >> >> >>> distribute the native parts with your app, or set the JNI path.
>> >> >> >>>  For
>> >> >> >>> example, you could use:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> -Djava.library.path=/path/to/where/_jcsnd.so/is/located
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> as part of your executable string, so writing a .bat or .sh file
>> >> >> >>> that
>> >> >> >>> executes your applcation would be good.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Java runtimes have a default place to put support and native
>> >> >> >>> libraries, but they are different on each platform.  I believe
>> >> >> >>> blue
>> >> >> >>> just worked out of the box on Windows, should do so with the
>> >> >> >>> next
>> >> >> >>> OSX
>> >> >> >>> release, and with Linux requires some modification to locate
>> >> >> >>> where
>> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >>> .so is.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> steven
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Michele Nasti
>> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> > Hi all,
>> >> >> >>> > I'm following the mailing list and i'm founding a lot of
>> >> >> >>> > useful
>> >> >> >>> > tips.
>> >> >> >>> > Since
>> >> >> >>> > my project is Java based, I have to ask you a little question.
>> >> >> >>> > I
>> >> >> >>> > have
>> >> >> >>> > already mailed Jim Hearon (the author of some Java and CSound
>> >> >> >>> > articles
>> >> >> >>> > in
>> >> >> >>> > the CSound Journal) but I ask here too.
>> >> >> >>> > I have not understood if csnd.jar is "really" portable, the
>> >> >> >>> > way
>> >> >> >>> > java
>> >> >> >>> > means.
>> >> >> >>> > This question arises for two motives: the first is that
>> >> >> >>> > csnd.jar
>> >> >> >>> > is
>> >> >> >>> > generated with SWIG starting from C sources, and I really
>> >> >> >>> > don't
>> >> >> >>> > know
>> >> >> >>> > how
>> >> >> >>> > this works. I simply use it as a black box. The second fact is
>> >> >> >>> > that
>> >> >> >>> > my
>> >> >> >>> > application runs smoothly on linux, but I can't make it work
>> >> >> >>> > on
>> >> >> >>> > windows
>> >> >> >>> > (for
>> >> >> >>> > now). It complains about a _jcsound object, something that
>> >> >> >>> > shouldn't
>> >> >> >>> > complain since everything is packed into another .jar .
>> >> >> >>> > Is there anybody that can confirm that csnd.jar is "really"
>> >> >> >>> > portable?
>> >> >> >>> > Or do
>> >> >> >>> > I have to distribute 3 csnd.jar - one for linux, one for mac
>> >> >> >>> > and
>> >> >> >>> > another for
>> >> >> >>> > windows?
>> >> >> >>> > Thanks in advance.
>> >> >> >>> > Michele Nasti
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
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This was exactly my problem.. I believed I was using csound 5.14 but I was downloading 5.13, that was having the annoying bug.

You're very welcome! Glad it's all sorted out now.

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Michele Nasti  wrote:
> I can confirm that with version 5.14 my simple program is working. Thanks
> Steven for this distributed debugging. :)
>
> Il giorno giovedì 13 ottobre 2011, Michele Nasti ha scritto:
>>
>> This was exactly my problem.. I believed I was using csound 5.14 but I was
>> downloading 5.13, that was having the annoying bug.
>>
>> Il giorno 13/ott/2011 17:33, "Steven Yi"  ha scritto:
>>
>> Hm, I'm not sure, but I did try downloading from Sourceforge just now
>> and it looks like the Windows 5.13.1 is still marked as the default
>> download for Windows.  I had to go into the 5.14 folder to explicitly
>> download 5.14.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Michele Nasti 
>> wrote:
>> > I'm trying 5.14 but if I launch from command line I get csound 5.13
>> > version.
>> > Maybe they forgot to change the string? :)
>> >
>> > 2011/10/13 Steven Yi 
>> >>
>> >> pvstanal may not have been released until 5.13.  Have you tried 5.14?
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Michele Nasti
>> >> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Steven, before giving you my project, I noted that on windows if I
>> >> > install
>> >> > CSound 5.12 it runs but it doesn't recognize the opcode pvstanal ,
>> >> > while
>> >> > on
>> >> > linux (and maybe csound 5.13?) it works like a charm. I'm getting
>> >> > crazy
>> >> > !!!!
>> >> >
>> >> > 2011/10/13 Steven Yi 
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Michele,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> One thing that is a tricky is that the csnd.jar isn't named
>> >> >> differently if csound was compiled with float or doubles.  One
>> >> >> possibility is that you might have a csnd.jar that was compiled for
>> >> >> float being used with doubles native library.  Try replacing
>> >> >> whatever
>> >> >> csnd.jar you have been using with the one in blue (there should be a
>> >> >> blue/modules folder within the main blue directory that has it).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Otherwise, you can email me a copy of your project off list and I
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> try to assist.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> steven
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Michele Nasti
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Hi Steven,
>> >> >> > I do have other questions, and I've seen in the Blue mailing list
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > have already answered it somehow.
>> >> >> > I was trying to make my .jar app work in windows, so I've
>> >> >> > installed a
>> >> >> > default CSound from sourceforge (version is 5.13) on my Windows XP
>> >> >> > machine
>> >> >> > (32bit). Java was installed easily from their website. These are
>> >> >> > all
>> >> >> > default
>> >> >> > installs of the softwares.
>> >> >> > However the java virtual machine dies with a fatal error of this
>> >> >> > kind:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>  PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound
>> >> >> >> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound
>> >> >> >> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound
>> >> >> >> 0dBFS level = 32768.0
>> >> >> >> Csound version 5.13 (double samples) Feb 11 2011
>> >> >> >> libsndfile-1.0.23
>> >> >> >> #
>> >> >> >> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime
>> >> >> >> Environment:
>> >> >> >> #
>> >> >> >> #  EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x6f2345b0,
>> >> >> >> pid=952,
>> >> >> >> tid=3768
>> >> >> >> #
>> >> >> >> # JRE version: 6.0_27-b07
>> >> >> >> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.2-b06 mixed mode
>> >> >> >> windows-x86
>> >> >> >> )
>> >> >> >> # Problematic frame:
>> >> >> >> # C  [csound64.dll.5.2+0x745b0]
>> >> >> >> #
>> >> >> >> # An error report file with more information is saved as:
>> >> >> >> # H:\Documents and
>> >> >> >> Settings\Albino\Documenti\Dropbox\workspace\CSoundExperiment
>> >> >> >> \dist\hs_err_pid952.log
>> >> >> >> #
>> >> >


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