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[Csnd] John Chowning Reverberator?

Date2013-03-10 01:25
FromPaul Batchelor
Subject[Csnd] John Chowning Reverberator?
Hello list,

Does Csound have an opcode for the John Chowning Reverberator?

Found about about it through the JCRev unit generator in ChucK:


Thanks,

-P

Date2013-03-10 04:46
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Csnd] John Chowning Reverberator?
Paul,

It would be really nice to have the Chowning Reverb in Csound.
It would also be nice to have more of the opcodes from PeRColate in Csound.
and
It would also be nice to have some/all of the opcodes in FFTease in Csound.

Paul - a great thesis project? 

or   maybe other Csounders are working on this/these?

-dB

Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.   

Professor of Electronic Production and Design

Professional Writing and Music Technology Division

Office @ 161 Mass Ave - 4th Floor

617-747-2485 (office)  774-488-9166 (cell)

http://csounds.com/boulanger     http://csounds.com/mathews

http://boulangerlabs.com    http://csoundforlive.com   http://csounds.com



On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Paul Batchelor <pbatchelor@berklee.edu> wrote:
Hello list,

Does Csound have an opcode for the John Chowning Reverberator?

Found about about it through the JCRev unit generator in ChucK:


Thanks,

-P


Date2013-03-10 10:26
Frommenno
Subject[Csnd] Re: John Chowning Reverberator?
 Is the John Chowning Reverberator not a part of the STK? And can it perhaps
be encapsulated like the STK opcodes?



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Date2013-03-10 10:55
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Csnd] John Chowning Reverberator?
I think all the FFTease stuff is already doable in csound alone. 

There are only a few time-based processes described by Wishart (and available in CDP) that aren't currently doable in Csound.



On 10 March 2013 04:46, Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:
Paul,

It would be really nice to have the Chowning Reverb in Csound.
It would also be nice to have more of the opcodes from PeRColate in Csound.
and
It would also be nice to have some/all of the opcodes in FFTease in Csound.

Paul - a great thesis project? 

or   maybe other Csounders are working on this/these?

-dB

Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.   

Professor of Electronic Production and Design

Professional Writing and Music Technology Division

Office @ 161 Mass Ave - 4th Floor

617-747-2485 (office)  774-488-9166 (cell)

http://csounds.com/boulanger     http://csounds.com/mathews

http://boulangerlabs.com    http://csoundforlive.com   http://csounds.com



On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Paul Batchelor <pbatchelor@berklee.edu> wrote:
Hello list,

Does Csound have an opcode for the John Chowning Reverberator?

Found about about it through the JCRev unit generator in ChucK:


Thanks,

-P



Date2013-03-10 15:08
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Csnd] John Chowning Reverberator?
Great to know that all of FFTease is in Csound.
It would be nice to have all of Wishart's CDP tools in Csound as well.

-dB

Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.   

Professor of Electronic Production and Design

Professional Writing and Music Technology Division

Office @ 161 Mass Ave - 4th Floor

617-747-2485 (office)  774-488-9166 (cell)

http://csounds.com/boulanger     http://csounds.com/mathews

http://boulangerlabs.com    http://csoundforlive.com   http://csounds.com



On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:55 AM, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
I think all the FFTease stuff is already doable in csound alone. 

There are only a few time-based processes described by Wishart (and available in CDP) that aren't currently doable in Csound.



On 10 March 2013 04:46, Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:
Paul,

It would be really nice to have the Chowning Reverb in Csound.
It would also be nice to have more of the opcodes from PeRColate in Csound.
and
It would also be nice to have some/all of the opcodes in FFTease in Csound.

Paul - a great thesis project? 

or   maybe other Csounders are working on this/these?

-dB

Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.   

Professor of Electronic Production and Design

Professional Writing and Music Technology Division

Office @ 161 Mass Ave - 4th Floor

617-747-2485 (office)  774-488-9166 (cell)

http://csounds.com/boulanger     http://csounds.com/mathews

http://boulangerlabs.com    http://csoundforlive.com   http://csounds.com



On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Paul Batchelor <pbatchelor@berklee.edu> wrote:
Hello list,

Does Csound have an opcode for the John Chowning Reverberator?

Found about about it through the JCRev unit generator in ChucK:


Thanks,

-P




Date2013-03-10 19:57
FromKevin Dahan
SubjectRe: [Csnd] John Chowning Reverberator?
Same goes for JCRev, you can easily make one using Csound opcodes 
(alpass, comb + delays).

Kevin

On 3/10/13 11:55 AM, peiman khosravi wrote:
> I think all the FFTease stuff is already doable in csound alone.
>
> There are only a few time-based processes described by Wishart (and
> available in CDP) that aren't currently doable in Csound.
>
> P
>
> On 10 March 2013 04:46, Dr. Richard Boulanger  > wrote:
>
>     Paul,
>
>     It would be really nice to have the Chowning Reverb in Csound.
>     It would also be nice to have more of the opcodes from PeRColate in
>     Csound.
>     and
>     It would also be nice to have some/all of the opcodes in FFTease in
>     Csound.
>
>     Paul - a great thesis project?
>
>     or   maybe other Csounders are working on this/these?
>
>     -dB
>
>     *Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D. *
>
>     Professor of Electronic Production and Design
>
>     Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
>
>     Office @ 161 Mass Ave - 4th Floor
>
>     617-747-2485 (office)  774-488-9166 (cell)
>
>     http://csounds.com/boulanger http://csounds.com/mathews
>
>     http://boulangerlabs.com http://csoundforlive.com http://csounds.com
>
>
>
>     On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Paul Batchelor
>     > wrote:
>
>         Hello list,
>
>         Does Csound have an opcode for the John Chowning Reverberator?
>
>         Found about about it through the JCRev unit generator in ChucK:
>
>         http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/doc/program/ugen_full.html#JCRev
>
>         Thanks,
>
>         -P
>
>
>


Date2013-03-10 20:12
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Csnd] John Chowning Reverberator?
for sure.

we can make virtually "anything" with Csound opcodes - and the chowning reverb would be quite easy.

but... I, for one, would like a csound opcode of this classic design/tweek - with the specific chowning settings

i would love to see the Chowning Reverb as a Csound Opcode.
i would love to see the Risset Drum and Risset Clarinet as Csound Opcodes.

an hommage really - and... 

imagine if, for instance, they were both coming to serve as Keynote speakers for the next International Csound Conference

can you image something like that???

if so... it would be nice to have some (more) of their pioneering work - "in" Csound.

Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.   

Professor of Electronic Production and Design

Professional Writing and Music Technology Division

Office @ 161 Mass Ave - 4th Floor

617-747-2485 (office)  774-488-9166 (cell)

http://csounds.com/boulanger     http://csounds.com/mathews

http://boulangerlabs.com    http://csoundforlive.com   http://csounds.com



On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Kevin Dahan <kevin.dahan@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
Same goes for JCRev, you can easily make one using Csound opcodes (alpass, comb + delays).

Kevin


On 3/10/13 11:55 AM, peiman khosravi wrote:
I think all the FFTease stuff is already doable in csound alone.

There are only a few time-based processes described by Wishart (and
available in CDP) that aren't currently doable in Csound.

P

On 10 March 2013 04:46, Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu
<mailto:rboulanger@berklee.edu>> wrote:

    Paul,

    It would be really nice to have the Chowning Reverb in Csound.
    It would also be nice to have more of the opcodes from PeRColate in
    Csound.
    and
    It would also be nice to have some/all of the opcodes in FFTease in
    Csound.

    Paul - a great thesis project?

    or   maybe other Csounders are working on this/these?

    -dB

    *Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D. *


    Professor of Electronic Production and Design

    Professional Writing and Music Technology Division

    Office @ 161 Mass Ave - 4th Floor

    617-747-2485 (office)  774-488-9166 (cell)

    http://csounds.com/boulanger http://csounds.com/mathews

    http://boulangerlabs.com http://csoundforlive.com http://csounds.com



    On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Paul Batchelor
    <pbatchelor@berklee.edu <mailto:pbatchelor@berklee.edu>> wrote:

        Hello list,

        Does Csound have an opcode for the John Chowning Reverberator?

        Found about about it through the JCRev unit generator in ChucK:

        http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/doc/program/ugen_full.html#JCRev

        Thanks,

        -P






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Date2013-03-11 06:49
Fromobaudouin
Subject[Csnd] Re: John Chowning Reverberator?
Hello,

You can do what you want with Csound, but in the case of Chowning's reverb,
using Music 10, fomulas are not the same: REV2 and REV1 require a gain
factor and a delay, whereas alpass and comb compute the gain factor from a
logarithmic formula involving delay and loop-time.

About Risset and Chowning's works (and all pioneers of sound synthesis), you
can read my book "Pionniers de la musique numérique", Delatour France, 2012.
There is notably a correct translation in Csound of the beginning of the
famous Risset's work "Mutation", and all references (and attempts of
translations) about Chowning and Risset's works.

Best,

Olivier Baudouin, PhD.



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http://olivierbaudouin.com 
MINT-OMF 
Paris-Sorbonne

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Date2013-03-20 00:33
FromAndres Cabrera
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: John Chowning Reverberator?
Hi Olivier,

Fascinating details, thanks.

Are there any plans to translate your work into English?

Cheers,
Andrés

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:49 PM, obaudouin  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> You can do what you want with Csound, but in the case of Chowning's reverb,
> using Music 10, fomulas are not the same: REV2 and REV1 require a gain
> factor and a delay, whereas alpass and comb compute the gain factor from a
> logarithmic formula involving delay and loop-time.
>
> About Risset and Chowning's works (and all pioneers of sound synthesis), you
> can read my book "Pionniers de la musique numérique", Delatour France, 2012.
> There is notably a correct translation in Csound of the beginning of the
> famous Risset's work "Mutation", and all references (and attempts of
> translations) about Chowning and Risset's works.
>
> Best,
>
> Olivier Baudouin, PhD.
>
>
>
> -----
>
> Olivier Baudouin, PhD
> http://olivierbaudouin.com
> MINT-OMF
> Paris-Sorbonne
>
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Date2013-03-20 06:22
Fromobaudouin
Subject[Csnd] Re: John Chowning Reverberator?

Hello Andrés,

A translation would be very hard to realize... so not for the moment but perhaps one day?

English quotations have been kept in footnotes.

Thanks for your interest.

Olivier.

Le 20 mars 2013 01:34, "Andres Cabrera [via Csound]" <[hidden email]> a écrit :
Hi Olivier,

Fascinating details, thanks.

Are there any plans to translate your work into English?

Cheers,
Andrés

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:49 PM, obaudouin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> You can do what you want with Csound, but in the case of Chowning's reverb,
> using Music 10, fomulas are not the same: REV2 and REV1 require a gain
> factor and a delay, whereas alpass and comb compute the gain factor from a
> logarithmic formula involving delay and loop-time.
>
> About Risset and Chowning's works (and all pioneers of sound synthesis), you
> can read my book "Pionniers de la musique numérique", Delatour France, 2012.
> There is notably a correct translation in Csound of the beginning of the
> famous Risset's work "Mutation", and all references (and attempts of
> translations) about Chowning and Risset's works.
>
> Best,
>
> Olivier Baudouin, PhD.
>
>
>
> -----
>
> Olivier Baudouin, PhD
> http://olivierbaudouin.com
> MINT-OMF
> Paris-Sorbonne
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/John-Chowning-Reverberator-tp5720894p5720924.html
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>
>
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Date2013-03-21 12:07
FromDavid Mooney
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: John Chowning Reverberator?
My wife reads French, but doesn't do computer music. I do computer
music, but don't read French! If there was ever a case for the Vulcan
mind meld, this is it.

Much of Risset's work is in Dodge and Jerse _Computer Music_, and
Risset's _Introductory Catalogue of Computer Synthesized Sounds_, from
1969, is reprinted in its entirety in the booklet that comes with the
Wergo CD: The Historical CD of Digital Sound Synthesis. It's pretty
easy to make Csound instruments based on the info in these sources.

--David Mooney

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> Hi Olivier,
>
> Fascinating details, thanks.
>
> Are there any plans to translate your work into English?
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:49 PM, obaudouin  wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> You can do what you want with Csound, but in the case of Chowning's reverb,
>> using Music 10, fomulas are not the same: REV2 and REV1 require a gain
>> factor and a delay, whereas alpass and comb compute the gain factor from a
>> logarithmic formula involving delay and loop-time.
>>
>> About Risset and Chowning's works (and all pioneers of sound synthesis), you
>> can read my book "Pionniers de la musique numérique", Delatour France, 2012.
>> There is notably a correct translation in Csound of the beginning of the
>> famous Risset's work "Mutation", and all references (and attempts of
>> translations) about Chowning and Risset's works.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Olivier Baudouin, PhD.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>>
>> Olivier Baudouin, PhD
>> http://olivierbaudouin.com
>> MINT-OMF
>> Paris-Sorbonne
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/John-Chowning-Reverberator-tp5720894p5720924.html
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>>
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Date2013-03-21 12:16
Fromobaudouin
Subject[Csnd] Re: John Chowning Reverberator?

Yes, the "Wergo CD: The Historical CD of Digital Sound Synthesis" is a very good source. But I have found mistakes in some Music V codes... that is in my book!

Best,

Olivier.

Le 21 mars 2013 13:08, "David Mooney [via Csound]" <[hidden email]> a écrit :
My wife reads French, but doesn't do computer music. I do computer
music, but don't read French! If there was ever a case for the Vulcan
mind meld, this is it.

Much of Risset's work is in Dodge and Jerse _Computer Music_, and
Risset's _Introductory Catalogue of Computer Synthesized Sounds_, from
1969, is reprinted in its entirety in the booklet that comes with the
Wergo CD: The Historical CD of Digital Sound Synthesis. It's pretty
easy to make Csound instruments based on the info in these sources.

--David Mooney

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Andres Cabrera <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Olivier,
>
> Fascinating details, thanks.
>
> Are there any plans to translate your work into English?
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:49 PM, obaudouin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> You can do what you want with Csound, but in the case of Chowning's reverb,
>> using Music 10, fomulas are not the same: REV2 and REV1 require a gain
>> factor and a delay, whereas alpass and comb compute the gain factor from a
>> logarithmic formula involving delay and loop-time.
>>
>> About Risset and Chowning's works (and all pioneers of sound synthesis), you
>> can read my book "Pionniers de la musique numérique", Delatour France, 2012.
>> There is notably a correct translation in Csound of the beginning of the
>> famous Risset's work "Mutation", and all references (and attempts of
>> translations) about Chowning and Risset's works.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Olivier Baudouin, PhD.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>>
>> Olivier Baudouin, PhD
>> http://olivierbaudouin.com
>> MINT-OMF
>> Paris-Sorbonne
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
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