We're currently looking at ordering some new PCs for one of our labs.
Computer services are leaning towards OSX machines but the case may
arrive where we will need to have dual boot on some systems to run
win32 only software. My concern regards the sound cards. We're
currently using M-Audio cards, and may upgrade to M-Boxes. My question
is will these audio interfaces work across platforms? Has anyone any
experience with this? I guess they are both USB devices so they should
but I just wanted to make sure.

Rory.


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I have never used these on windows but I have seen two cases where  
problems were caused as a result of upgrading the firmware on a mac  
(after which point the interfaces would not be recognised on a PC).  
One case was a friend of mine who lent his M-audio usb interface to a  
mac user. Another case was when I sold my M-box 2 to a windows user  
who wasn't able to get it working on the PC, he later decided to buy a  
mac and it worked fine.

Best,

P

On 8 Mar 2010, at 16:18, Rory Walsh wrote:

> We're currently looking at ordering some new PCs for one of our labs.
> Computer services are leaning towards OSX machines but the case may
> arrive where we will need to have dual boot on some systems to run
> win32 only software. My concern regards the sound cards. We're
> currently using M-Audio cards, and may upgrade to M-Boxes. My question
> is will these audio interfaces work across platforms? Has anyone any
> experience with this? I guess they are both USB devices so they should
> but I just wanted to make sure.
>
> Rory.
>
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Having said that, I have a little M-audio transit which works fine on  
both (I only tried it once on a windows system). Maybe the problem  
only arises after upgrading the firmware, or it could be that the  
particular firmware I experienced with the M-box was bugy. I wouldn't  
be sure though.

The best thing would be to call them up and explain the situation to  
them. Just tell them you're planing to by an interface and you want it  
to work on both systems, that way they put you through to the sales  
department, which is much more efficient. If you say you already have  
the interfaces then you're in for a long wait at the support centre!

Best,

P

On 8 Mar 2010, at 16:18, Rory Walsh wrote:

> We're currently looking at ordering some new PCs for one of our labs.
> Computer services are leaning towards OSX machines but the case may
> arrive where we will need to have dual boot on some systems to run
> win32 only software. My concern regards the sound cards. We're
> currently using M-Audio cards, and may upgrade to M-Boxes. My question
> is will these audio interfaces work across platforms? Has anyone any
> experience with this? I guess they are both USB devices so they should
> but I just wanted to make sure.
>
> Rory.
>
>
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That's good to know Peiman. They were just the kind of issues I was
concerned about. I'd really like to give our students the option of
using either platform. Currently we have around an 80/20 split in
favour of PCs and I wouldn't want to force any of their hands one way
or the other.

Rory.


On 8 March 2010 17:16, Peiman Khosravi  wrote:
> I have never used these on windows but I have seen two cases where problems
> were caused as a result of upgrading the firmware on a mac (after which
> point the interfaces would not be recognised on a PC). One case was a friend
> of mine who lent his M-audio usb interface to a mac user. Another case was
> when I sold my M-box 2 to a windows user who wasn't able to get it working
> on the PC, he later decided to buy a mac and it worked fine.
>
> Best,
>
> P
>
> On 8 Mar 2010, at 16:18, Rory Walsh wrote:
>
>> We're currently looking at ordering some new PCs for one of our labs.
>> Computer services are leaning towards OSX machines but the case may
>> arrive where we will need to have dual boot on some systems to run
>> win32 only software. My concern regards the sound cards. We're
>> currently using M-Audio cards, and may upgrade to M-Boxes. My question
>> is will these audio interfaces work across platforms? Has anyone any
>> experience with this? I guess they are both USB devices so they should
>> but I just wanted to make sure.
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
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My experience with sales people is they will tell you anything you
want to hear in order to move the unit! On the box it says drivers for
OSX and Windows so I think we all know what they will say when asked..

On 8 March 2010 17:22, Peiman Khosravi  wrote:
> Having said that, I have a little M-audio transit which works fine on both
> (I only tried it once on a windows system). Maybe the problem only arises
> after upgrading the firmware, or it could be that the


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Yes you are probably right :-)

P


On 8 Mar 2010, at 17:25, Rory Walsh wrote:

> My experience with sales people is they will tell you anything you
> want to hear in order to move the unit! On the box it says drivers for
> OSX and Windows so I think we all know what they will say when asked..
>
> On 8 March 2010 17:22, Peiman Khosravi   
> wrote:
>> Having said that, I have a little M-audio transit which works fine  
>> on both
>> (I only tried it once on a windows system). Maybe the problem only  
>> arises
>> after upgrading the firmware, or it could be that the
>
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I thought the M-boxes was not so ideal for all other tasks than
running ProTools,
at least this was the case with the very first models. I haven't
actually had any hands on experience, but I have a "hunch" that it
might not be perfect for running Csound with low latency in realtime.
Anyone with practical experience in this combination please do chime
in, I might be wrong.
It's always an extra round of work when trying to find a new type of
sound card, as you need to actively test it for your purposes and on
your platform, there is no other way to be sure.

best
Oeyvind

2010/3/8 Rory Walsh :
> We're currently looking at ordering some new PCs for one of our labs.
> Computer services are leaning towards OSX machines but the case may
> arrive where we will need to have dual boot on some systems to run
> win32 only software. My concern regards the sound cards. We're
> currently using M-Audio cards, and may upgrade to M-Boxes. My question
> is will these audio interfaces work across platforms? Has anyone any
> experience with this? I guess they are both USB devices so they should
> but I just wanted to make sure.
>
> Rory.
>
>
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On 9 Mar 2010, at 11:01, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:

> I thought the M-boxes was not so ideal for all other tasks than
> running ProTools,
> at least this was the case with the very first models. I haven't
> actually had any hands on experience, but I have a "hunch" that it
> might not be perfect for running Csound with low latency in realtime.
> Anyone with practical experience in this combination please do chime
> in, I might be wrong.

You are right. That's partly why I sold mine. At university we have  
digi02 and 03 boxes and they suck too (except for running protools). I  
think it's all the digidesign drivers. And I think M-audio drivers are  
made by the same people aren't they?

> It's always an extra round of work when trying to find a new type of
> sound card, as you need to actively test it for your purposes and on
> your platform, there is no other way to be sure.
>
> best
> Oeyvind
>
> 2010/3/8 Rory Walsh :
>> We're currently looking at ordering some new PCs for one of our labs.
>> Computer services are leaning towards OSX machines but the case may
>> arrive where we will need to have dual boot on some systems to run
>> win32 only software. My concern regards the sound cards. We're
>> currently using M-Audio cards, and may upgrade to M-Boxes. My  
>> question
>> is will these audio interfaces work across platforms? Has anyone any
>> experience with this? I guess they are both USB devices so they  
>> should
>> but I just wanted to make sure.
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
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Oh, I didn't know that (about the M-audio drivers).
I thought some people on this list used M-audio interfaces nicely with Csound,
but I also seem to recall that someone reported serious problems.
Sorry for not being able to be more specific ....
Oeyvind

2010/3/9 Peiman Khosravi :
>
> On 9 Mar 2010, at 11:01, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:
>
>> I thought the M-boxes was not so ideal for all other tasks than
>> running ProTools,
>> at least this was the case with the very first models. I haven't
>> actually had any hands on experience, but I have a "hunch" that it
>> might not be perfect for running Csound with low latency in realtime.
>> Anyone with practical experience in this combination please do chime
>> in, I might be wrong.
>
> You are right. That's partly why I sold mine. At university we have digi02
> and 03 boxes and they suck too (except for running protools). I think it's
> all the digidesign drivers. And I think M-audio drivers are made by the same
> people aren't they?
>
>> It's always an extra round of work when trying to find a new type of
>> sound card, as you need to actively test it for your purposes and on
>> your platform, there is no other way to be sure.
>>
>> best
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2010/3/8 Rory Walsh :
>>>
>>> We're currently looking at ordering some new PCs for one of our labs.
>>> Computer services are leaning towards OSX machines but the case may
>>> arrive where we will need to have dual boot on some systems to run
>>> win32 only software. My concern regards the sound cards. We're
>>> currently using M-Audio cards, and may upgrade to M-Boxes. My question
>>> is will these audio interfaces work across platforms? Has anyone any
>>> experience with this? I guess they are both USB devices so they should
>>> but I just wanted to make sure.
>>>
>>> Rory.
>>>
>>>
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I haven't myself had much negative experience with M-audio (I haven't  
used them that much) but I hear that their drivers are not great.

Best,

P

On 9 Mar 2010, at 12:53, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:

> Oh, I didn't know that (about the M-audio drivers).
> I thought some people on this list used M-audio interfaces nicely  
> with Csound,
> but I also seem to recall that someone reported serious problems.
> Sorry for not being able to be more specific ....
> Oeyvind
>
> 2010/3/9 Peiman Khosravi :
>>
>> On 9 Mar 2010, at 11:01, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:
>>
>>> I thought the M-boxes was not so ideal for all other tasks than
>>> running ProTools,
>>> at least this was the case with the very first models. I haven't
>>> actually had any hands on experience, but I have a "hunch" that it
>>> might not be perfect for running Csound with low latency in  
>>> realtime.
>>> Anyone with practical experience in this combination please do chime
>>> in, I might be wrong.
>>
>> You are right. That's partly why I sold mine. At university we have  
>> digi02
>> and 03 boxes and they suck too (except for running protools). I  
>> think it's
>> all the digidesign drivers. And I think M-audio drivers are made by  
>> the same
>> people aren't they?
>>
>>> It's always an extra round of work when trying to find a new type of
>>> sound card, as you need to actively test it for your purposes and on
>>> your platform, there is no other way to be sure.
>>>
>>> best
>>> Oeyvind
>>>
>>> 2010/3/8 Rory Walsh :
>>>>
>>>> We're currently looking at ordering some new PCs for one of our  
>>>> labs.
>>>> Computer services are leaning towards OSX machines but the case may
>>>> arrive where we will need to have dual boot on some systems to run
>>>> win32 only software. My concern regards the sound cards. We're
>>>> currently using M-Audio cards, and may upgrade to M-Boxes. My  
>>>> question
>>>> is will these audio interfaces work across platforms? Has anyone  
>>>> any
>>>> experience with this? I guess they are both USB devices so they  
>>>> should
>>>> but I just wanted to make sure.
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>>
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 From what I understand, M-Audio and Digidesign are both owned by Avid, 
which is why certain versions of ProTools will work with M-Audio 
interfaces, but beyond that I don't know that their drivers are written 
by the same people. Probably mainly the "dongle" part of the driver. I 
believe M-Audio is essentially a separate division.

For what it's worth, I've used the MBox2 Pro live with Csound on OSX and 
haven't had problems. The only weird thing is that I can only get it to 
work with inch and outch, not ins and outs, even if nchnls = 2. I don't 
have this problem with my M-Audio Delta 66 (which I got pre-Avid) on XP. 
But that's not such a big deal. Well, now that I've figured that out, 
anyway. ;-)

.mmb

Peiman Khosravi wrote:
>
> On 9 Mar 2010, at 11:01, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:
>
>> I thought the M-boxes was not so ideal for all other tasks than
>> running ProTools,
>> at least this was the case with the very first models. I haven't
>> actually had any hands on experience, but I have a "hunch" that it
>> might not be perfect for running Csound with low latency in realtime.
>> Anyone with practical experience in this combination please do chime
>> in, I might be wrong.
>
> You are right. That's partly why I sold mine. At university we have 
> digi02 and 03 boxes and they suck too (except for running protools). I 
> think it's all the digidesign drivers. And I think M-audio drivers are 
> made by the same people aren't they?
>
>> It's always an extra round of work when trying to find a new type of
>> sound card, as you need to actively test it for your purposes and on
>> your platform, there is no other way to be sure.
>>
>> best
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2010/3/8 Rory Walsh :
>>> We're currently looking at ordering some new PCs for one of our labs.
>>> Computer services are leaning towards OSX machines but the case may
>>> arrive where we will need to have dual boot on some systems to run
>>> win32 only software. My concern regards the sound cards. We're
>>> currently using M-Audio cards, and may upgrade to M-Boxes. My question
>>> is will these audio interfaces work across platforms? Has anyone any
>>> experience with this? I guess they are both USB devices so they should
>>> but I just wanted to make sure.
>>>
>>> Rory.
>>>
>>>
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