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[Csnd] [ot] - Speaking of Hardware Synths (Vince Clarke Interview)

Date2010-03-18 17:01
FromSteven Yi
Subject[Csnd] [ot] - Speaking of Hardware Synths (Vince Clarke Interview)
Hi All,

Just to carry on the thread of hardware synths and desires, it's no
secret I'm a huge fan of synthesizer pop and most everything Vince
Clarke has done.  There's a wonderful interview video here that shows
his gigantic synth studio with lots of talk and show of different
synthesizers:

http://www.motherboard.tv/2010/3/17/electric-independence-vince-clarke-and-the-temple-of-synth

I guess if one dies and goes to analog synthesizer heaven, one just
ends up at his house. :P

steven


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Date2010-03-18 17:46
FromMichael Gogins
Subject[Csnd] Re: [ot] - Speaking of Hardware Synths (Vince Clarke Interview)
I don't know Vince Clarke as a person so much, but I have a number of
Erasure and Depeche Mode albums, to which I listen periodically. I've
been listening to Depeche Mode practically my whole adult life. Thanks
for the video link, I really enjoyed it.

In 1982 I put together an electronic music studio for my fiance or
wife (I can't remember whether it was before or after we got married),
the composer/flutist Esther Sugai. For her studio I bought a
Sequential Circuits Pro 1, one of the synthesizers that Clarke shows
off in the clip. I made several tunes with that thing. It was the only
synthesizer in this little bedroom studio. It had a Lexicon PCM 41 (I
think that's the model) digital delay, a spring reverb, and a Tascam
8-track. Oh, and we had some completely cheesy toy Casio polyphonic
synth, I mean REALLY a toy. The combination of the Pro 1 and the delay
line was phenomenal. Both pieces of gear were well thought out and the
combination sounded fantastic. Some of what I do in Csound is inspired
by sounds that either I or Esther made back then....

It is quite correct that "messing about" with knobs and patch wires is
a very different and in many ways more productive way of working. If
Csound had a visual patcher we would get back to that with Csound. I
don't care to have only a visual patcher, I prefer coding for most
things, but for exploratory sound design nothing beats patch wires and
knobs.

We do have a patcher in the form of Cabel, and it's good for
developing sounds in isolation, but it doesn't integrate well with
whole orchestras and whole pieces. Maybe now that we have the signal
flow graph opcodes, I'll go back and see if I can use Cabel to work
with existing pieces and orchestras. I could create individual Cabel
patches and #include them in my pieces, using the signal flow graph
opcodes to hook the patches into a mixer graph.

Again, thanks for the link, it really got me thinking.

Regards,
Mike

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Just to carry on the thread of hardware synths and desires, it's no
> secret I'm a huge fan of synthesizer pop and most everything Vince
> Clarke has done.  There's a wonderful interview video here that shows
> his gigantic synth studio with lots of talk and show of different
> synthesizers:
>
> http://www.motherboard.tv/2010/3/17/electric-independence-vince-clarke-and-the-temple-of-synth
>
> I guess if one dies and goes to analog synthesizer heaven, one just
> ends up at his house. :P
>
> steven
>
>
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Date2010-03-18 18:29
FromRene Djack
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: [ot] - Speaking of Hardware Synths (Vince Clarke Interview)
Hi,

Thanks a lot for this video, it is wonderful.

I fan of Berlin school style music and Space music, all made with synths,
I don't know that Vince Clarke have a so huge collection of hardware synths.

I still have an old Sequential Circuits Six-Track 610 and i am trying to emulate it
with csound and Qutecsound.

Really not easy to make a csound 4 poles LP Curtis filter!!!

Cheers,
René



2010/3/18 Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com>
I don't know Vince Clarke as a person so much, but I have a number of
Erasure and Depeche Mode albums, to which I listen periodically. I've
been listening to Depeche Mode practically my whole adult life. Thanks
for the video link, I really enjoyed it.

In 1982 I put together an electronic music studio for my fiance or
wife (I can't remember whether it was before or after we got married),
the composer/flutist Esther Sugai. For her studio I bought a
Sequential Circuits Pro 1, one of the synthesizers that Clarke shows
off in the clip. I made several tunes with that thing. It was the only
synthesizer in this little bedroom studio. It had a Lexicon PCM 41 (I
think that's the model) digital delay, a spring reverb, and a Tascam
8-track. Oh, and we had some completely cheesy toy Casio polyphonic
synth, I mean REALLY a toy. The combination of the Pro 1 and the delay
line was phenomenal. Both pieces of gear were well thought out and the
combination sounded fantastic. Some of what I do in Csound is inspired
by sounds that either I or Esther made back then....

It is quite correct that "messing about" with knobs and patch wires is
a very different and in many ways more productive way of working. If
Csound had a visual patcher we would get back to that with Csound. I
don't care to have only a visual patcher, I prefer coding for most
things, but for exploratory sound design nothing beats patch wires and
knobs.

We do have a patcher in the form of Cabel, and it's good for
developing sounds in isolation, but it doesn't integrate well with
whole orchestras and whole pieces. Maybe now that we have the signal
flow graph opcodes, I'll go back and see if I can use Cabel to work
with existing pieces and orchestras. I could create individual Cabel
patches and #include them in my pieces, using the signal flow graph
opcodes to hook the patches into a mixer graph.

Again, thanks for the link, it really got me thinking.

Regards,
Mike

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Just to carry on the thread of hardware synths and desires, it's no
> secret I'm a huge fan of synthesizer pop and most everything Vince
> Clarke has done.  There's a wonderful interview video here that shows
> his gigantic synth studio with lots of talk and show of different
> synthesizers:
>
> http://www.motherboard.tv/2010/3/17/electric-independence-vince-clarke-and-the-temple-of-synth
>
> I guess if one dies and goes to analog synthesizer heaven, one just
> ends up at his house. :P
>
> steven
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>
>



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Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com


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Date2010-03-20 02:29
FromJim Aikin
Subject[Csnd] Re: [ot] - Speaking of Hardware Synths (Vince Clarke Interview)
Thanks for the link. At one time Vince owned a Serge Modular that had been
built for me, so I had to watch the video. A four-panel Serge system is
visible in the video -- no close-ups -- but it doesn't seem to be mine.

I foolishly sold mine, back in about 1983, to a fellow named Louis Newman,
who I believe was a used synth dealer, though he didn't bother to mention
that to me. I had no idea Vince had ended up with it until, a year later, it
showed up on the cover of Sound On Sound, as the lead image in a cover story
about Vince's collection. The new issue lands on my desk, and I'm thinking,
"Oh, cool, it's a Serge. Let's see what it's got ... three filters, six
oscillators ... wait a minute! That's MY Serge!"

But that stuff is hard to maintain. Chances are, his current Serge system is
cobbled together with parts or panels from several instruments.

Truth be told, I prefer software.

--JA

Date2010-03-20 04:31
Fromrasputin
Subject[Csnd] Re: [ot] - Speaking of Hardware Synths (Vince Clarke Interview)
Also available on that motherboard.tv site is a similar interview with Moby.
His love for old hardware machines, particularly drum machines, really shows
in the gleam in his eyes. And his comment about the coolness, or lack of
coolness, of electronic musicians towards the end is charming and really
resonates with me. 
His remarks about working with "regular" human musicians also hit the nail
on the head, at least in my experience.

Jim Aikin wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the link. At one time Vince owned a Serge Modular that had been
> built for me, so I had to watch the video. A four-panel Serge system is
> visible in the video -- no close-ups -- but it doesn't seem to be mine.
> 
> I foolishly sold mine, back in about 1983, to a fellow named Louis Newman,
> who I believe was a used synth dealer, though he didn't bother to mention
> that to me. I had no idea Vince had ended up with it until, a year later,
> it showed up on the cover of Sound On Sound, as the lead image in a cover
> story about Vince's collection. The new issue lands on my desk, and I'm
> thinking, "Oh, cool, it's a Serge. Let's see what it's got ... three
> filters, six oscillators ... wait a minute! That's MY Serge!"
> 
> But that stuff is hard to maintain. Chances are, his current Serge system
> is cobbled together with parts or panels from several instruments.
> 
> Truth be told, I prefer software.
> 
> --JA
>