[Csnd] guitar prepared with modeling clay

[Csnd] guitar prepared with modeling clay

Date	2012-02-28 08:38
From	Stefan Thomas
Subject	[Csnd] guitar prepared with modeling clay
	Dear community, I've explored a very interesting sound: a guitar string prepared with modeling-clay (hope that's the right english term, it's "knet" in german). I would like to share it with You. Can I send a mp3-file (230 kb) to this group?

Date	2012-02-28 10:06
From	francesco
Subject	[Csnd] Re: guitar prepared with modeling clay
	Dear Mr. Stefan, i will be glad to hear Your work. You can also use the blog on Csounds.com to share things. Waiting ... Thank You, ciao, francesco. -- View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/guitar-prepared-with-modeling-clay-tp5521215p5521371.html Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Date	2012-02-28 10:46
From	Stefan Thomas
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Re: guitar prepared with modeling clay
	Dear Francesco, it isn't a work, it's just the sound. I've uploaded it to the beginners blog. What I would like to know, is: how does the modeling-clay influence the partials of the string? Can someone explain it? Am 28. Februar 2012 11:06 schrieb francesco <ilterzouomo@fastwebnet.it>: Dear Mr. Stefan, i will be glad to hear Your work. You can also use the blog on Csounds.com to share things. Waiting ... Thank You, ciao, francesco. -- View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/guitar-prepared-with-modeling-clay-tp5521215p5521371.html Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2012-02-28 10:56
From	Rory Walsh
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Re: guitar prepared with modeling clay
	I think you can also attach files to your emails to the list? On 28 February 2012 10:46, Stefan Thomas wrote: > Dear Francesco, > it isn't a work, it's just the sound. I've uploaded it to the beginners > blog. > What I would like to know, is: > how does the modeling-clay influence the partials of the string? > Can someone explain it? > > Am 28. Februar 2012 11:06 schrieb francesco : > >> Dear Mr. Stefan, >> i will be glad to hear Your work. You can also use the blog on Csounds.com >> to share >> things. Waiting ... >> >> Thank You, >> ciao, >> francesco. >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/guitar-prepared-with-modeling-clay-tp5521215p5521371.html >> Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >> csound" >> >

Date	2012-02-28 15:04
From	mark jamerson
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Re: guitar prepared with modeling clay
	Stefan, I'm assuming that you are talking about sticking a ball or wad of clay underneath the strings, either near the headstock or by the bridge. Based on what I think this would sound like, the clay heavily dampens the string and would greatly reduce the upper partials. From a physics standpoint,(without any equations) the clay changes the boundary conditions of the string. The bridge and nut provide fixed boundaries that reflect the wave with very little dampening. The clay, however, will absorb a lot of the waves energy and not reflect much back into the string. The entire spectrum will be dampened, but since the upper partials have much less energy in comparison to the fundamental, they will seem to disappear completely. Mark From: Stefan Thomas <kontrapunktstefan@googlemail.com> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [Csnd] Re: guitar prepared with modeling clay Dear Francesco, it isn't a work, it's just the sound. I've uploaded it to the beginners blog. What I would like to know, is: how does the modeling-clay influence the partials of the string? Can someone explain it? Am 28. Februar 2012 11:06 schrieb francesco <ilterzouomo@fastwebnet.it>: Dear Mr. Stefan, i will be glad to hear Your work. You can also use the blog on Csounds.com to share things. Waiting ... Thank You, ciao, francesco. -- View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/guitar-prepared-with-modeling-clay-tp5521215p5521371.html Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2012-02-28 15:34
From	Sigurd Saue
Subject	RE: [Csnd] Re: guitar prepared with modeling clay
	Hi Stefan, If you add small lumps of clay (or just wrap around some scotch tape) at specific points on a string, you will get an inharmonic sound as a result. The effect depends on where the clay is applied. Harmonics with a node (no deflection) at the point where the clay is applied will not be affected at all, while harmonics with an antinode (maximum deflection) will be heavily affected. The closer the lump is placed to an antinode of a certain partial, the more that partial is affected. So if you for instance add clay at the very center of the string, all odd harmonics, including the fundamental, will be detuned since they all have a maximum at center, while the even harmonics will not be affected at all. I hope this makes sense to you. Sigurd From: Stefan Thomas [mailto:kontrapunktstefan@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:47 AM To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Csnd] Re: guitar prepared with modeling clay Dear Francesco, it isn't a work, it's just the sound. I've uploaded it to the beginners blog. What I would like to know, is: how does the modeling-clay influence the partials of the string? Can someone explain it? Am 28. Februar 2012 11:06 schrieb francesco <ilterzouomo@fastwebnet.it>: Dear Mr. Stefan, i will be glad to hear Your work. You can also use the blog on Csounds.com to share things. Waiting ... Thank You, ciao, francesco. -- View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/guitar-prepared-with-modeling-clay-tp5521215p5521371.html Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2012-02-28 20:35
From	Stefan Thomas
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Re: guitar prepared with modeling clay
Attachments	modeling_clay_guitar_E.mp3
	Yes, Sigurd, this seems to be the fact, it sounds not only damped but also inharmonic. I try to add the mp3 as an attachment, for all who are interested. Have a nice evening Stefan Am 28. Februar 2012 16:34 schrieb Sigurd Saue <sigurd.saue@ntnu.no>: Hi Stefan, If you add small lumps of clay (or just wrap around some scotch tape) at specific points on a string, you will get an inharmonic sound as a result. The effect depends on where the clay is applied. Harmonics with a node (no deflection) at the point where the clay is applied will not be affected at all, while harmonics with an antinode (maximum deflection) will be heavily affected. The closer the lump is placed to an antinode of a certain partial, the more that partial is affected. So if you for instance add clay at the very center of the string, all odd harmonics, including the fundamental, will be detuned since they all have a maximum at center, while the even harmonics will not be affected at all. I hope this makes sense to you. Sigurd From: Stefan Thomas [mailto:kontrapunktstefan@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:47 AM To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Csnd] Re: guitar prepared with modeling clay Dear Francesco, it isn't a work, it's just the sound. I've uploaded it to the beginners blog. What I would like to know, is: how does the modeling-clay influence the partials of the string? Can someone explain it? Am 28. Februar 2012 11:06 schrieb francesco <ilterzouomo@fastwebnet.it>: Dear Mr. Stefan, i will be glad to hear Your work. You can also use the blog on Csounds.com to share things. Waiting ... Thank You, ciao, francesco. -- View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/guitar-prepared-with-modeling-clay-tp5521215p5521371.html Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2012-02-29 08:24
From	Sigurd Saue
Subject	RE: [Csnd] Re: guitar prepared with modeling clay
	By the way: If you play flageolets touching the point where the clay is applied, the inharmonicity should go away, at least in theory. Sigurd From: Stefan Thomas [mailto:kontrapunktstefan@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:35 PM To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Csnd] Re: guitar prepared with modeling clay Yes, Sigurd, this seems to be the fact, it sounds not only damped but also inharmonic. I try to add the mp3 as an attachment, for all who are interested. Have a nice evening Stefan Am 28. Februar 2012 16:34 schrieb Sigurd Saue <sigurd.saue@ntnu.no>: Hi Stefan, If you add small lumps of clay (or just wrap around some scotch tape) at specific points on a string, you will get an inharmonic sound as a result. The effect depends on where the clay is applied. Harmonics with a node (no deflection) at the point where the clay is applied will not be affected at all, while harmonics with an antinode (maximum deflection) will be heavily affected. The closer the lump is placed to an antinode of a certain partial, the more that partial is affected. So if you for instance add clay at the very center of the string, all odd harmonics, including the fundamental, will be detuned since they all have a maximum at center, while the even harmonics will not be affected at all. I hope this makes sense to you. Sigurd From: Stefan Thomas [mailto:kontrapunktstefan@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:47 AM To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Csnd] Re: guitar prepared with modeling clay Dear Francesco, it isn't a work, it's just the sound. I've uploaded it to the beginners blog. What I would like to know, is: how does the modeling-clay influence the partials of the string? Can someone explain it? Am 28. Februar 2012 11:06 schrieb francesco <ilterzouomo@fastwebnet.it>: Dear Mr. Stefan, i will be glad to hear Your work. You can also use the blog on Csounds.com to share things. Waiting ... Thank You, ciao, francesco. -- View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/guitar-prepared-with-modeling-clay-tp5521215p5521371.html Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2012-02-29 12:32
From	francesco
Subject	[Csnd] Re: guitar prepared with modeling clay
	Dear Mr. Stefan, can i ask how did You realize Your sound? Just curious. Thanks, ciao, francesco. -- View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/guitar-prepared-with-modeling-clay-tp5521215p5524835.html Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Date	2012-03-01 08:08
From	Stefan Thomas
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Re: guitar prepared with modeling clay
	Dear Francesco, I took a piece of modeling clay and put it around the low e-string of my guitar. The kind and quality of the sound depends on where You put the modeling clay, as Sigurd explained. Am 29. Februar 2012 13:32 schrieb francesco <ilterzouomo@fastwebnet.it>: Dear Mr. Stefan, can i ask how did You realize Your sound? Just curious. Thanks, ciao, francesco. -- View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/guitar-prepared-with-modeling-clay-tp5521215p5524835.html Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"