on 2011-05-13 at 22:18 Iain McCurdy wrote:

>
>Thought I share some work in case anyone wants to have a listen.

great work, ian! i love the idea of "generative instruments", where the
score events are generated by the orchestra. very interesting sounds and
processes. and a real tour de force, since you say all the orchestras have
a limit of 70 lines of code. another aspect to admire of the series is
that the pieces are very varied, within a certain unity of style.
i don't think you'd be interested in sharing the code?

best,

lj


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yes, great sounds, interesting pieces.


On 13 May 2011, at 23:43, luis jure wrote:

>
> on 2011-05-13 at 22:18 Iain McCurdy wrote:
>
>>
>> Thought I share some work in case anyone wants to have a listen.
>
> great work, ian! i love the idea of "generative instruments", where  
> the
> score events are generated by the orchestra. very interesting sounds  
> and
> processes. and a real tour de force, since you say all the  
> orchestras have
> a limit of 70 lines of code. another aspect to admire of the series is
> that the pieces are very varied, within a certain unity of style.
> i don't think you'd be interested in sharing the code?
>
> best,
>
> lj
>
>
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wow, great idea, great pieces.
are the orchestras available somewhere, to look and learn?
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congrats iain - very interesting structures and fine sounds!
looking forward to seeing the csd files. if 60 of the 70 lines start
with "#include", then you will have a problem ...=)
all best -

	joachim

Am 14.05.2011 00:18, schrieb Iain McCurdy:
> Thought I share some work in case anyone wants to have a listen.
> There is some more information about the pieces on the containing page.
> Comments and criticisms welcome!
> http://www.iainmccurdy.org/csoundhaiku.html
> 


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on 2011-05-14 at 07:19 Iain McCurdy wrote:

> I have further plans in how the code might be presented with the pieces.

good, looking forward to it!


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hi

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Iain McCurdy  wrote:
> Comments and criticisms welcome!
> http://www.iainmccurdy.org/csoundhaiku.html

they are interesting sound samples, to be sure.

i wonder why you called them "haiku," they are not brief [having
indeterminate length], have little to do with the seasons or the
natural world, and do not feature a juxtaposition that needs to be
bridged in the listener's imagination [as far a i could tell]. can you
explain?

allow me to add my voice to those asking that you 'open source' the orchestras.

also, this note on your website generated some thoughts:
As each piece is continuously generative, piece durations are
arbitrary. It is not necessary to listen to any piece for its full
duration.

but it has a duration to me.
is it an excerpt?

it reminds me of what john cage said about his norton lectures. he had
a machine generate all these permutations of text. and then he threw
out what he didn't 'like'.

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on 2011-05-14 at 09:34 john saylor wrote:

>i wonder why you called them "haiku," they are not brief [having
>indeterminate length], have little to do with the seasons or the
>natural world, and do not feature a juxtaposition that needs to be
>bridged in the listener's imagination [as far a i could tell]. can you

i also wondered about that, indeed. i ended up guessing that it might
refer more to the nature of the code than the result... but i'd be very
interested in comments from the author.



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Thought I share some work in case anyone wants to have a listen.
There is some more information about the pieces on the containing page.
Comments and criticisms welcome!
http://www.iainmccurdy.org/csoundhaiku.html

I think most of us who are into AC would like to see this code! I look forward to seeing where you go with this.
Brian

________________________________
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 20:53:17 +0100
> From: michael.gogins@gmail.com
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: [Csnd] csound haiku
>
> I enjoyed these pieces and also the idea behind them. I think the
> discipline of concision is interesting with Csound, which has such a
> plethora of resources. I would really like to see the source code.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Iain McCurdy
> > wrote:
> Hi John,
> Some challenging questions here...
>
>
> > i wonder why you called them "haiku," they are not brief [having
> > indeterminate length], have little to do with the seasons or the
> > natural world, and do not feature a juxtaposition that needs to be
> > bridged in the listener's imagination [as far a i could tell]. can you
> > explain?
>
> 'Csound Haiku', which is just the working title for a work in progress,
> is a reference to the discipline of brevity and concision in writing
> the code for each orchestra and the resulting focus in their musical
> design. The haiku features of conceptual juxtaposition and seasonal
> reference are not drawn upon; I suppose I would defend this decision by
> saying they are 'Csound Haiku', not haiku. I am, however, sensitive to
> the fact that this could be interpreted as cultural pillaging and will
> consider its use carefully.
>
> >
> > allow me to add my voice to those asking that you 'open source' the
> orchestras.
> >
>
> I have intentions for how the code itself might be bound into a
> performance (don't want to say to much at this stage) - sorry to be
> vague, I guess after this is done I will publish the code.
>
>
> > also, this note on your website generated some thoughts:
> > As each piece is continuously generative, piece durations are
> > arbitrary. It is not necessary to listen to any piece for its full
> > duration.
> >
> > but it has a duration to me.
> > is it an excerpt?
>
> The pieces are ultimately intended to be performed from the csd file,
> the duration of which will be decided during that performance. I'm
> sharing these renderings with this list just as sketches of what I'm
> working on. It's not necessary to listen right through a file as there
> is nothing cadential at the end!
>
> I hope I've answered your questions here,
> Iain
>
>
> >
> > it reminds me of what john cage said about his norton lectures. he had
> > a machine generate all these permutations of text. and then he threw
> > out what he didn't 'like'.
> >
> > --
> > \js : "verbing weirds language." -calvin [http://or8.net/~johns/]
> >
> >
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Hi Iain!

... It is very pleasant and light your work with csound;
I have some questions:

• in the case of physical models?
• when the code?
•

compliments!

enrico

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