[Csnd] lowres and lowresx

[Csnd] lowres and lowresx

Date	2018-03-10 17:54
From	Richard
Subject	[Csnd] lowres and lowresx
	It says about lowres (and lowresx): kcutoff is not in Hz and kresonance is not in dB, so experiment for the finding best results. That's a bit hard. Are there any clues or guidelines? Also, for lowresx, does the scaling of these variables change when numlayers is changed? Richard

Date	2018-03-10 21:35
From	jpff
Subject	Re: [Csnd] lowres and lowresx
	Also ote that re manual for lowres is not the whole story. The cuto and resonance can be k-rate or a-rate according to the sources. Same for lowresx. On Sat, 10 Mar 2018, Richard wrote: > > It says about lowres (and lowresx): kcutoff is not in Hz and kresonance is not > in dB, so experiment for the finding best results. > That's a bit hard. Are there any clues or guidelines? > Also, for lowresx, does the scaling of these variables change when numlayers > is changed? > > Richard > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can > be posted here > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2018-03-10 21:44
From	Richard
Subject	Re: [Csnd] lowres and lowresx
	Actually what I need is a LP filter with resonance, that can be switched between 12, 18 and 24 dB/oct. I guess moogladder is 2nd order, so 12 db/oct. I could cascade another one, that would make it 24 dB. But then is there a 6dB/oct LP (with res) that I could use (with mooladder) for the 18 dB version? On 10/03/18 22:35, jpff wrote: > Also ote that re manual for lowres is not the whole story. The cuto > and resonance can be k-rate or a-rate according to the sources. Same > for lowresx. > > > On Sat, 10 Mar 2018, Richard wrote: > >> >> It says about lowres (and lowresx): kcutoff is not in Hz >> and kresonance is not >> in dB, so experiment for the finding best results. >> That's a bit hard. Are there any clues or guidelines? >> Also, for lowresx, does the scaling of these variables change when >> numlayers >> is changed? >> >> Richard >> >> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and >> features can >> be posted here >> > > Csound mailing list > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2018-03-10 21:57
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Csnd] lowres and lowresx
	Try Fons’ mvclpf filters. There is one with four outs, 6, 12, 18 and 24 db/oct Victor Lazzarini Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy Maynooth University Ireland > On 10 Mar 2018, at 21:44, Richard wrote: > > Actually what I need is a LP filter with resonance, that can be switched between 12, 18 and 24 dB/oct. > I guess moogladder is 2nd order, so 12 db/oct. I could cascade another one, that would make it 24 dB. > But then is there a 6dB/oct LP (with res) that I could use (with mooladder) for the 18 dB version? > > >> On 10/03/18 22:35, jpff wrote: >> Also ote that re manual for lowres is not the whole story. The cuto and resonance can be k-rate or a-rate according to the sources. Same for lowresx. >> >> >>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2018, Richard wrote: >>> >>> >>> It says about lowres (and lowresx): kcutoff is not in Hz and kresonance is not >>> in dB, so experiment for the finding best results. >>> That's a bit hard. Are there any clues or guidelines? >>> Also, for lowresx, does the scaling of these variables change when numlayers >>> is changed? >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can >>> be posted here >>> >> >> Csound mailing list >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >> Send bugs reports to >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > > Csound mailing list > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2018-03-10 21:57
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Csnd] lowres and lowresx
	Moogladder is 4th ordet Victor Lazzarini Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy Maynooth University Ireland > On 10 Mar 2018, at 21:44, Richard wrote: > > Actually what I need is a LP filter with resonance, that can be switched between 12, 18 and 24 dB/oct. > I guess moogladder is 2nd order, so 12 db/oct. I could cascade another one, that would make it 24 dB. > But then is there a 6dB/oct LP (with res) that I could use (with mooladder) for the 18 dB version? > > >> On 10/03/18 22:35, jpff wrote: >> Also ote that re manual for lowres is not the whole story. The cuto and resonance can be k-rate or a-rate according to the sources. Same for lowresx. >> >> >>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2018, Richard wrote: >>> >>> >>> It says about lowres (and lowresx): kcutoff is not in Hz and kresonance is not >>> in dB, so experiment for the finding best results. >>> That's a bit hard. Are there any clues or guidelines? >>> Also, for lowresx, does the scaling of these variables change when numlayers >>> is changed? >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can >>> be posted here >>> >> >> Csound mailing list >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >> Send bugs reports to >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > > Csound mailing list > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2018-03-10 22:46
From	Richard
Subject	Re: [Csnd] lowres and lowresx
	That's a LADSPA plugin, is it not? It would be nice if Csound has its own native multi-pole filters. It is a rather basic need... On 10/03/18 22:57, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > Try Fons’ mvclpf filters. There is one with four outs, 6, 12, 18 and 24 db/oct > > Victor Lazzarini > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy > Maynooth University > Ireland > >> On 10 Mar 2018, at 21:44, Richard wrote: >> >> Actually what I need is a LP filter with resonance, that can be switched between 12, 18 and 24 dB/oct. >> I guess moogladder is 2nd order, so 12 db/oct. I could cascade another one, that would make it 24 dB. >> But then is there a 6dB/oct LP (with res) that I could use (with mooladder) for the 18 dB version? >> >> >>> On 10/03/18 22:35, jpff wrote: >>> Also ote that re manual for lowres is not the whole story. The cuto and resonance can be k-rate or a-rate according to the sources. Same for lowresx. >>> >>> >>>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2018, Richard wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> It says about lowres (and lowresx): kcutoff is not in Hz and kresonance is not >>>> in dB, so experiment for the finding best results. >>>> That's a bit hard. Are there any clues or guidelines? >>>> Also, for lowresx, does the scaling of these variables change when numlayers >>>> is changed? >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to >>>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can >>>> be posted here >>>> >>> Csound mailing list >>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >>> Send bugs reports to >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> Csound mailing list >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >> Send bugs reports to >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > Csound mailing list > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2018-03-10 22:58
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Csnd] lowres and lowresx
	it’s an opcode http://csound.com/docs/manual/mvclpf4.html Victor Lazzarini Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy Maynooth University Ireland On 10 Mar 2018, at 22:46, Richard <zappfinger@GMAIL.COM> wrote: That's a LADSPA plugin, is it not? It would be nice if Csound has its own native multi-pole filters. It is a rather basic need... On 10/03/18 22:57, Victor Lazzarini wrote: Try Fons’ mvclpf filters. There is one with four outs, 6, 12, 18 and 24 db/oct Victor Lazzarini Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy Maynooth University Ireland On 10 Mar 2018, at 21:44, Richard <zappfinger@GMAIL.COM> wrote: Actually what I need is a LP filter with resonance, that can be switched between 12, 18 and 24 dB/oct. I guess moogladder is 2nd order, so 12 db/oct. I could cascade another one, that would make it 24 dB. But then is there a 6dB/oct LP (with res) that I could use (with mooladder) for the 18 dB version? On 10/03/18 22:35, jpff wrote: Also ote that re manual for lowres is not the whole story. The cuto and resonance can be k-rate or a-rate according to the sources. Same for lowresx. On Sat, 10 Mar 2018, Richard wrote: It says about lowres (and lowresx): kcutoff is not in Hz and kresonance is not in dB, so experiment for the finding best results. That's a bit hard. Are there any clues or guidelines? Also, for lowresx, does the scaling of these variables change when numlayers is changed? Richard Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2018-03-10 23:02
From	Richard
Subject	Re: [Csnd] lowres and lowresx
	Ah thanks! Could'nt find it.... On 10/03/18 23:58, Victor Lazzarini wrote: it’s an opcode http://csound.com/docs/manual/mvclpf4.html Victor Lazzarini Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy Maynooth University Ireland On 10 Mar 2018, at 22:46, Richard <zappfinger@GMAIL.COM> wrote: That's a LADSPA plugin, is it not? It would be nice if Csound has its own native multi-pole filters. It is a rather basic need... On 10/03/18 22:57, Victor Lazzarini wrote: Try Fons’ mvclpf filters. There is one with four outs, 6, 12, 18 and 24 db/oct Victor Lazzarini Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy Maynooth University Ireland On 10 Mar 2018, at 21:44, Richard <zappfinger@GMAIL.COM> wrote: Actually what I need is a LP filter with resonance, that can be switched between 12, 18 and 24 dB/oct. I guess moogladder is 2nd order, so 12 db/oct. I could cascade another one, that would make it 24 dB. But then is there a 6dB/oct LP (with res) that I could use (with mooladder) for the 18 dB version? On 10/03/18 22:35, jpff wrote: Also ote that re manual for lowres is not the whole story. The cuto and resonance can be k-rate or a-rate according to the sources. Same for lowresx. On Sat, 10 Mar 2018, Richard wrote: It says about lowres (and lowresx): kcutoff is not in Hz and kresonance is not in dB, so experiment for the finding best results. That's a bit hard. Are there any clues or guidelines? Also, for lowresx, does the scaling of these variables change when numlayers is changed? Richard Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here