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[Csnd] Csound on Windows

Date2014-04-09 09:32
FromLuis Antunes Pena
Subject[Csnd] Csound on Windows
Hello,

I will use csound to teach a new course and would like to gather some of your experience running csound on windows. I would like to ask how do you currently run csound on windows. Do you use CsoundQt, WinSound? Do you run csound from a terminal? Blue, Cabbage? What would you advise?

Thank you for your help.

Best,
Luis

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Date2014-04-09 09:42
FromAskwazzup
Subject[Csnd] Re: Csound on Windows
I found that while CsoundQt was a more convenient way to setup the options,
it often crashed on me for various reasons on windows and linux. Winsound i
only used briefly, so can't comment on it.

Now i use the terminal (in linux) and vim editor with the csound syntax
plugin, for the colored syntax. This i found to be the best route for me and
i also learned more about the CsOption flags this way.



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Date2014-04-09 10:25
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: Csound on Windows
We have four modules that use Csound. Students must take the first
two, after that they have a choice. WinXound/Csound6 is used in module
1. This is all score driven work(basic sound synthesis). In module 2 I
introduce the idea of using Csound with a sound editor, enter csLADSPA
and Audacity(basic signal modification/processing). Module 3 is
exclusively MIDI and Csound (more advanced synthesis techniques). The
final module introduces Cabbage. Students are expected to pull
together everything they have learned in the previous modules and
start developing Csound-based plugins(effects or synths).

A student asked me recently why they didn't have a play button on
their screen like the one they could see on my main teaching screen. I
told them to enable the toolbar in WinXound and showed them how to on
the projector. They said they didn't have that option. I made another
few suggestions, to which the students again replied 'it doesn't
work?'. So I made my way down to find that the student in question had
CsoundQT open instead of WinXound! I guess he must have been looking
so hard for the darned play button that he neglected to realise he was
using a completely different software to everyone else!


On 9 April 2014 09:42, Askwazzup  wrote:
> I found that while CsoundQt was a more convenient way to setup the options,
> it often crashed on me for various reasons on windows and linux. Winsound i
> only used briefly, so can't comment on it.
>
> Now i use the terminal (in linux) and vim editor with the csound syntax
> plugin, for the colored syntax. This i found to be the best route for me and
> i also learned more about the CsOption flags this way.
>
>
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Date2014-04-09 16:29
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound on Windows
Windows is my main platform for running Csound. I also run on Linux sometimes.

On Wiindows, in order of decreasing usage:

CsoundQt. It crashes for me sometimes, but I need those widgets.

SciTE, a text editor with customizable commands, it will automatically run csd files using Csound, or Lua files using LuaJIT. But no widgets.

The Windows command line. If things are crashing I run on the command line to see more information.

WinXSound, sometimes.

blue, occasionally.

Cabbage, occasionally.

None of these environments actually meets all of my needs!

Hope this helps,
Mike


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Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Luis Antunes Pena <k_o_m_p@yahoo.de> wrote:
Hello,

I will use csound to teach a new course and would like to gather some of your experience running csound on windows. I would like to ask how do you currently run csound on windows. Do you use CsoundQt, WinSound? Do you run csound from a terminal? Blue, Cabbage? What would you advise?

Thank you for your help.

Best,
Luis



Date2014-04-09 16:47
FromLuis Antunes Pena
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: Csound on Windows
Thanks for all the answers. It is very useful to me since I have very little experience with Windows.
Rory: this looks like a very serious course on csound. My ambitions are at this point quite modest when compared to what you describe here.
I'll try to report here the first approach to csound from the students.
Best,
Luis

Am 09.04.14 11:25, schrieb Rory Walsh:
We have four modules that use Csound. Students must take the first
two, after that they have a choice. WinXound/Csound6 is used in module
1. This is all score driven work(basic sound synthesis). In module 2 I
introduce the idea of using Csound with a sound editor, enter csLADSPA
and Audacity(basic signal modification/processing). Module 3 is
exclusively MIDI and Csound (more advanced synthesis techniques). The
final module introduces Cabbage. Students are expected to pull
together everything they have learned in the previous modules and
start developing Csound-based plugins(effects or synths).

A student asked me recently why they didn't have a play button on
their screen like the one they could see on my main teaching screen. I
told them to enable the toolbar in WinXound and showed them how to on
the projector. They said they didn't have that option. I made another
few suggestions, to which the students again replied 'it doesn't
work?'. So I made my way down to find that the student in question had
CsoundQT open instead of WinXound! I guess he must have been looking
so hard for the darned play button that he neglected to realise he was
using a completely different software to everyone else!


On 9 April 2014 09:42, Askwazzup <aistiskaikaris@mail.com> wrote:
I found that while CsoundQt was a more convenient way to setup the options,
it often crashed on me for various reasons on windows and linux. Winsound i
only used briefly, so can't comment on it.

Now i use the terminal (in linux) and vim editor with the csound syntax
plugin, for the colored syntax. This i found to be the best route for me and
i also learned more about the CsOption flags this way.



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Date2014-04-09 19:39
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound on Windows

We teach Csound for both Mac and Win students here at ntnu. I tend to think that the command line is the safest and simplest. We also teach cabbage from early on in the course as it is very convenient for the students to plug their custom modules into a daw workflow. I love qt too,  but the command line is more transparent for teaching.

9. apr. 2014 17:29 skrev "Michael Gogins" <michael.gogins@gmail.com> følgende:
Windows is my main platform for running Csound. I also run on Linux sometimes.

On Wiindows, in order of decreasing usage:

CsoundQt. It crashes for me sometimes, but I need those widgets.

SciTE, a text editor with customizable commands, it will automatically run csd files using Csound, or Lua files using LuaJIT. But no widgets.

The Windows command line. If things are crashing I run on the command line to see more information.

WinXSound, sometimes.

blue, occasionally.

Cabbage, occasionally.

None of these environments actually meets all of my needs!

Hope this helps,
Mike


-----------------------------------------------------
Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Luis Antunes Pena <k_o_m_p@yahoo.de> wrote:
Hello,

I will use csound to teach a new course and would like to gather some of your experience running csound on windows. I would like to ask how do you currently run csound on windows. Do you use CsoundQt, WinSound? Do you run csound from a terminal? Blue, Cabbage? What would you advise?

Thank you for your help.

Best,
Luis



Date2014-04-09 20:15
FromMichael Rhoades
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound on Windows
Lately I have been using commandline on my Windows 8 machine... using PowerShell, which actually allows one to use Linux commands and slashes.  No more confusion when switching between OSes!!

Then VIM for orc work.

For sco either Excel or simply Cmask/NotePad...

Good Luck!!


On 4/9/14 2:39 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:

We teach Csound for both Mac and Win students here at ntnu. I tend to think that the command line is the safest and simplest. We also teach cabbage from early on in the course as it is very convenient for the students to plug their custom modules into a daw workflow. I love qt too,  but the command line is more transparent for teaching.

9. apr. 2014 17:29 skrev "Michael Gogins" <michael.gogins@gmail.com> følgende:
Windows is my main platform for running Csound. I also run on Linux sometimes.

On Wiindows, in order of decreasing usage:

CsoundQt. It crashes for me sometimes, but I need those widgets.

SciTE, a text editor with customizable commands, it will automatically run csd files using Csound, or Lua files using LuaJIT. But no widgets.

The Windows command line. If things are crashing I run on the command line to see more information.

WinXSound, sometimes.

blue, occasionally.

Cabbage, occasionally.

None of these environments actually meets all of my needs!

Hope this helps,
Mike


-----------------------------------------------------
Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Luis Antunes Pena <k_o_m_p@yahoo.de> wrote:
Hello,

I will use csound to teach a new course and would like to gather some of your experience running csound on windows. I would like to ask how do you currently run csound on windows. Do you use CsoundQt, WinSound? Do you run csound from a terminal? Blue, Cabbage? What would you advise?

Thank you for your help.

Best,
Luis




Date2014-04-09 20:30
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: Csound on Windows
Not as serious as it looks! It's kept very simple throughout. In year
one they will do additive synthesis, and some simple AM and Ring
Modulation. They will also have built several simple time-domain
csLADSPA effect such as flangers, reverb, chorus, wah-wah etc., which
they can use for their EA composition modules. Year 3 is more about
controlling instruments, with MIDI introduced first and then VST
plugins. One or two more techniques such as FM and subtractive
synthesis are introduced within these modules too, but overall it's
quite basic stuff. I guess we might be unique in that all of our sound
synthesis/processing modules use Csound. I wonder why ;)