we will release very soon (planned for next week) a new version of the 
csound floss manual. in the current version, the chapter CSOUND IN PD 
still refers to csound 5:
http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/csound-in-pd

can anyone send me some words about the new ways of downloading and 
installing?

or is anyone from the csound floss manual editors able to do this?

thanks in advance -

	joachim

I think the major change is the name: it's called csound6~ instead of csoundapi~ (so they can both coexist if you still have csound 5 installation). 
Also there is a new message to compile an orc from a file. Otherwise, it works in the same way.


On 3 Apr 2014, at 19:38, joachim heintz wrote:

> we will release very soon (planned for next week) a new version of the csound floss manual. in the current version, the chapter CSOUND IN PD still refers to csound 5:
> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/csound-in-pd
> 
> can anyone send me some words about the new ways of downloading and installing?
> 
> or is anyone from the csound floss manual editors able to do this?
> 
> thanks in advance -
> 
> 	joachim
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to
>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
> 
> 
> 

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie

so it's not distributed like csound~ in the csound repo, but only 
available via the installers?


Am 03.04.2014 21:29, schrieb Victor Lazzarini:
> I think the major change is the name: it's called csound6~ instead of csoundapi~ (so they can both coexist if you still have csound 5 installation).
> Also there is a new message to compile an orc from a file. Otherwise, it works in the same way.
>
>
> On 3 Apr 2014, at 19:38, joachim heintz wrote:
>
>> we will release very soon (planned for next week) a new version of the csound floss manual. in the current version, the chapter CSOUND IN PD still refers to csound 5:
>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/csound-in-pd
>>
>> can anyone send me some words about the new ways of downloading and installing?
>>
>> or is anyone from the csound floss manual editors able to do this?
>>
>> thanks in advance -
>>
>> 	joachim
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to
>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>>
>>
>
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept. of Music
> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>
>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to
>          https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>
>
>
>

I don't know. It was never csound~, but csoundapi~.
On 3 Apr 2014, at 20:36, joachim heintz wrote:

> so it's not distributed like csound~ in the csound repo, but only available via the installers?
> 
> 
> Am 03.04.2014 21:29, schrieb Victor Lazzarini:
>> I think the major change is the name: it's called csound6~ instead of csoundapi~ (so they can both coexist if you still have csound 5 installation).
>> Also there is a new message to compile an orc from a file. Otherwise, it works in the same way.
>> 
>> 
>> On 3 Apr 2014, at 19:38, joachim heintz wrote:
>> 
>>> we will release very soon (planned for next week) a new version of the csound floss manual. in the current version, the chapter CSOUND IN PD still refers to csound 5:
>>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/csound-in-pd
>>> 
>>> can anyone send me some words about the new ways of downloading and installing?
>>> 
>>> or is anyone from the csound floss manual editors able to do this?
>>> 
>>> thanks in advance -
>>> 
>>> 	joachim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>> Senior Lecturer
>> Dept. of Music
>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Send bugs reports to
>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to
>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
> 
> 
> 

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie

no, sorry, i meant the csound~ object for maxmsp. this is distributed 
with csound itself.

but the csound6~ object for pd is only distributed via the installers, 
as described in the floss manual?


Am 03.04.2014 22:02, schrieb Victor Lazzarini:
> I don't know. It was never csound~, but csoundapi~.
> On 3 Apr 2014, at 20:36, joachim heintz wrote:
>
>> so it's not distributed like csound~ in the csound repo, but only available via the installers?
>>
>>
>> Am 03.04.2014 21:29, schrieb Victor Lazzarini:
>>> I think the major change is the name: it's called csound6~ instead of csoundapi~ (so they can both coexist if you still have csound 5 installation).
>>> Also there is a new message to compile an orc from a file. Otherwise, it works in the same way.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 Apr 2014, at 19:38, joachim heintz wrote:
>>>
>>>> we will release very soon (planned for next week) a new version of the csound floss manual. in the current version, the chapter CSOUND IN PD still refers to csound 5:
>>>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/csound-in-pd
>>>>
>>>> can anyone send me some words about the new ways of downloading and installing?
>>>>
>>>> or is anyone from the csound floss manual editors able to do this?
>>>>
>>>> thanks in advance -
>>>>
>>>> 	joachim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>> Senior Lecturer
>>> Dept. of Music
>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>          https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to
>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>>
>>
>
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept. of Music
> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>
>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to
>          https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>
>
>
>

Sorry I didn't read your question properly. The answer is: it gets built as before, just with a different name now.

On 3 Apr 2014, at 21:02, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

> I don't know. It was never csound~, but csoundapi~.
> On 3 Apr 2014, at 20:36, joachim heintz wrote:
> 
>> so it's not distributed like csound~ in the csound repo, but only available via the installers?
>> 
>> 
>> Am 03.04.2014 21:29, schrieb Victor Lazzarini:
>>> I think the major change is the name: it's called csound6~ instead of csoundapi~ (so they can both coexist if you still have csound 5 installation).
>>> Also there is a new message to compile an orc from a file. Otherwise, it works in the same way.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3 Apr 2014, at 19:38, joachim heintz wrote:
>>> 
>>>> we will release very soon (planned for next week) a new version of the csound floss manual. in the current version, the chapter CSOUND IN PD still refers to csound 5:
>>>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/csound-in-pd
>>>> 
>>>> can anyone send me some words about the new ways of downloading and installing?
>>>> 
>>>> or is anyone from the csound floss manual editors able to do this?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks in advance -
>>>> 
>>>> 	joachim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>      https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>> Senior Lecturer
>>> Dept. of Music
>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Send bugs reports to
>>      https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept. of Music
> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to
>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
> 
> 
> 

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie

thanks, i changed this. one final question: for csound5 on osx, the path 
of csoundapi~ was:
/Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib.framework/Versions/5.2/Resources/PD/csoundapi~.pd_darwin 


which is the path now?


Am 03.04.2014 22:30, schrieb Victor Lazzarini:
> Sorry I didn't read your question properly. The answer is: it gets built as before, just with a different name now.
>
> On 3 Apr 2014, at 21:02, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>
>> I don't know. It was never csound~, but csoundapi~.
>> On 3 Apr 2014, at 20:36, joachim heintz wrote:
>>
>>> so it's not distributed like csound~ in the csound repo, but only available via the installers?
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 03.04.2014 21:29, schrieb Victor Lazzarini:
>>>> I think the major change is the name: it's called csound6~ instead of csoundapi~ (so they can both coexist if you still have csound 5 installation).
>>>> Also there is a new message to compile an orc from a file. Otherwise, it works in the same way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3 Apr 2014, at 19:38, joachim heintz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> we will release very soon (planned for next week) a new version of the csound floss manual. in the current version, the chapter CSOUND IN PD still refers to csound 5:
>>>>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/csound-in-pd
>>>>>
>>>>> can anyone send me some words about the new ways of downloading and installing?
>>>>>
>>>>> or is anyone from the csound floss manual editors able to do this?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks in advance -
>>>>>
>>>>> 	joachim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>> Dept. of Music
>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>> Senior Lecturer
>> Dept. of Music
>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to
>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>>
>>
>
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept. of Music
> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>
>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to
>          https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>
>
>
>

/Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/Resources/PD/csound6~.pd_darwin 

The help file is

/Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/Resources/PD/csound6~-help.pd


On 3 Apr 2014, at 21:55, joachim heintz wrote:

> thanks, i changed this. one final question: for csound5 on osx, the path of csoundapi~ was:
> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib.framework/Versions/5.2/Resources/PD/csoundapi~.pd_darwin 
> 
> which is the path now?
> 
> 
> Am 03.04.2014 22:30, schrieb Victor Lazzarini:
>> Sorry I didn't read your question properly. The answer is: it gets built as before, just with a different name now.
>> 
>> On 3 Apr 2014, at 21:02, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't know. It was never csound~, but csoundapi~.
>>> On 3 Apr 2014, at 20:36, joachim heintz wrote:
>>> 
>>>> so it's not distributed like csound~ in the csound repo, but only available via the installers?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 03.04.2014 21:29, schrieb Victor Lazzarini:
>>>>> I think the major change is the name: it's called csound6~ instead of csoundapi~ (so they can both coexist if you still have csound 5 installation).
>>>>> Also there is a new message to compile an orc from a file. Otherwise, it works in the same way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3 Apr 2014, at 19:38, joachim heintz wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> we will release very soon (planned for next week) a new version of the csound floss manual. in the current version, the chapter CSOUND IN PD still refers to csound 5:
>>>>>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/csound-in-pd
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> can anyone send me some words about the new ways of downloading and installing?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> or is anyone from the csound floss manual editors able to do this?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks in advance -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 	joachim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>      https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>>> Dept. of Music
>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>      https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>> Senior Lecturer
>>> Dept. of Music
>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>> Senior Lecturer
>> Dept. of Music
>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Send bugs reports to
>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to
>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
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> 
> 

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie

thanks. i'll put this in.
	j


Am 03.04.2014 23:01, schrieb Victor Lazzarini:
> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/Resources/PD/csound6~.pd_darwin
>
> The help file is
>
> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/Resources/PD/csound6~-help.pd
>
>
> On 3 Apr 2014, at 21:55, joachim heintz wrote:
>
>> thanks, i changed this. one final question: for csound5 on osx, the path of csoundapi~ was:
>> /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib.framework/Versions/5.2/Resources/PD/csoundapi~.pd_darwin
>>
>> which is the path now?
>>
>>
>> Am 03.04.2014 22:30, schrieb Victor Lazzarini:
>>> Sorry I didn't read your question properly. The answer is: it gets built as before, just with a different name now.
>>>
>>> On 3 Apr 2014, at 21:02, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know. It was never csound~, but csoundapi~.
>>>> On 3 Apr 2014, at 20:36, joachim heintz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> so it's not distributed like csound~ in the csound repo, but only available via the installers?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 03.04.2014 21:29, schrieb Victor Lazzarini:
>>>>>> I think the major change is the name: it's called csound6~ instead of csoundapi~ (so they can both coexist if you still have csound 5 installation).
>>>>>> Also there is a new message to compile an orc from a file. Otherwise, it works in the same way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3 Apr 2014, at 19:38, joachim heintz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we will release very soon (planned for next week) a new version of the csound floss manual. in the current version, the chapter CSOUND IN PD still refers to csound 5:
>>>>>>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/csound-in-pd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> can anyone send me some words about the new ways of downloading and installing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or is anyone from the csound floss manual editors able to do this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks in advance -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 	joachim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>>>> Dept. of Music
>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>> Dept. of Music
>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>> Senior Lecturer
>>> Dept. of Music
>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>          https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to
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>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>
>>
>
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept. of Music
> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>
>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to
>          https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>
>