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[Csnd] Intonation helper

Date2014-03-13 18:44
FromTarmo Johannes
Subject[Csnd] Intonation helper
Hi,

I wrote a simple app for students to train intonation in chord according to 
natural intonation. There is a android app, web app (using cound native client 
technology) and of course you can run the csd in CsoundQt.

basically you choose a note from which the cord will be built, which notes the 
app will play and play yourself the missing notes. Using microphone, the app 
also shows how correct you are.

More information and links:
http://tarmo.uuu.ee/intonationhelper_eng.html


If you have singers, wind or string player friends or students, perpahs it 
turns useful!

greetings,
tarmo

Date2014-03-14 10:03
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Intonation helper
Nice work Tarmo. I'm going to try out the Android app later and see how it runs on my phone. I'll be sure to tell my students to check it out!


On 13 March 2014 18:44, Tarmo Johannes <tarmo.johannes@otsakool.edu.ee> wrote:
Hi,

I wrote a simple app for students to train intonation in chord according to
natural intonation. There is a android app, web app (using cound native client
technology) and of course you can run the csd in CsoundQt.

basically you choose a note from which the cord will be built, which notes the
app will play and play yourself the missing notes. Using microphone, the app
also shows how correct you are.

More information and links:
http://tarmo.uuu.ee/intonationhelper_eng.html


If you have singers, wind or string player friends or students, perpahs it
turns useful!

greetings,
tarmo


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Date2014-03-14 11:07
FromBernt Isak Wærstad
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Intonation helper
It seems like the link is broken?


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
Nice work Tarmo. I'm going to try out the Android app later and see how it runs on my phone. I'll be sure to tell my students to check it out!


On 13 March 2014 18:44, Tarmo Johannes <tarmo.johannes@otsakool.edu.ee> wrote:
Hi,

I wrote a simple app for students to train intonation in chord according to
natural intonation. There is a android app, web app (using cound native client
technology) and of course you can run the csd in CsoundQt.

basically you choose a note from which the cord will be built, which notes the
app will play and play yourself the missing notes. Using microphone, the app
also shows how correct you are.

More information and links:
http://tarmo.uuu.ee/intonationhelper_eng.html


If you have singers, wind or string player friends or students, perpahs it
turns useful!

greetings,
tarmo


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Bernt Isak Wærstad



Date2014-03-14 11:09
FromBernt Isak Wærstad
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Intonation helper
My mistake - something weird with my connection.


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Bernt Isak Wærstad <berntisak@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems like the link is broken?


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
Nice work Tarmo. I'm going to try out the Android app later and see how it runs on my phone. I'll be sure to tell my students to check it out!


On 13 March 2014 18:44, Tarmo Johannes <tarmo.johannes@otsakool.edu.ee> wrote:
Hi,

I wrote a simple app for students to train intonation in chord according to
natural intonation. There is a android app, web app (using cound native client
technology) and of course you can run the csd in CsoundQt.

basically you choose a note from which the cord will be built, which notes the
app will play and play yourself the missing notes. Using microphone, the app
also shows how correct you are.

More information and links:
http://tarmo.uuu.ee/intonationhelper_eng.html


If you have singers, wind or string player friends or students, perpahs it
turns useful!

greetings,
tarmo


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Mvh.

Bernt Isak Wærstad





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Mvh.

Bernt Isak Wærstad



Date2014-03-14 15:18
FromJim Aikin
Subject[Csnd] Re: Intonation helper
"according to natural intonation"? Do you mean just intonation? Because if
that's what you're doing, honestly I'm not sure how useful it would be for
music students. Conversely, 12-note-per-octave equal  temperament is
certainly not natural!



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Date2014-03-14 16:37
FromJustin Smith
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: Intonation helper
With true pitch instruments, adjusting to a just interval based on which chord is being formed is pretty common, no?


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Jim Aikin <midiguru23@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"according to natural intonation"? Do you mean just intonation? Because if
that's what you're doing, honestly I'm not sure how useful it would be for
music students. Conversely, 12-note-per-octave equal  temperament is
certainly not natural!



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Date2014-03-15 06:15
FromTarmo Johannes
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: Intonation helper
Hi,

Well, that's the idea of the app - "official" music theory and solfege live in 
the world of 12 tone ET under the dominance of piano. 
Wind and string players and at most the singers can control the intonation of 
every pitch and tune their intervals and chords "right", according to just 
intonation. The questions is how? How do they get models how a "clean" chord 
sounds? How do they know how low they have to intonate their major third?

I remember reading a research about tuning. There were three pairs of players 
(flutists, I think): amateurs, students and high professionals of a top 
orchestra. They played different intervals together and it was recorded. One 
of the most problematic intervals was the major third. The amateurs played it 
randomly as it happened, students showed  a tendence to intonate it lower than 
ET third, professionals clear tendence to lower the interval from ET but none 
was actually close to the natural ration 5:4.

In the real word it must be a compromise between habits, different 
instruments, melody line etc etc but what I want to raise a bit is being aware 
of the acoustic principles and listening more carefully.

thanks!
tarmo


On Friday 14 March 2014 09:37:05 Justin Smith wrote:
> With true pitch instruments, adjusting to a just interval based on which
> chord is being formed is pretty common, no?
> 
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Jim Aikin  wrote:
> > "according to natural intonation"? Do you mean just intonation? Because if
> > that's what you're doing, honestly I'm not sure how useful it would be for
> > music students. Conversely, 12-note-per-octave equal  temperament is
> > certainly not natural!
> > 
> > 
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