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Date2010-02-20 15:32
FromDave Seidel
Subject[Csnd] Linux distro for music/media
Hi all,

I'm getting a new laptop soon, and while I will preserve the Windows 7 
that comes with it, I will very quickly create second partition on which 
to install Linux as my main OS in a dual-boot setup.

I would like to use one of the distros that is intended for multimedia 
work and has features like a kernel tuned for realtime, low-latency 
sound output.  What you you recommend?  My leading candidate at the 
moment is puredyne, but I would love to hear about your experiences with 
this or other specialized distros.

Thanks,
Dave

Date2010-02-20 15:35
FromBrian Redfern
Subject[Csnd] Re: Linux distro for music/media
I would go with fedora core 12 and the planet ccrma rt kernel.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Dave Seidel  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm getting a new laptop soon, and while I will preserve the Windows 7 that
> comes with it, I will very quickly create second partition on which to
> install Linux as my main OS in a dual-boot setup.
>
> I would like to use one of the distros that is intended for multimedia work
> and has features like a kernel tuned for realtime, low-latency sound output.
>  What you you recommend?  My leading candidate at the moment is puredyne,
> but I would love to hear about your experiences with this or other
> specialized distros.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> --
> http://mysterybear.net
> http://twitter.com/DaveSeidel
> http://www.myspace.com/DaveSeidel
>
>
>
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Date2010-02-20 15:45
FromDave Seidel
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Linux distro for music/media
Thanks, Brian, that's definitely an option.  Also kind of cool in that 
I've started using Fedora 12 at work, so I'm learning a lot about it.

- Dave

On 2/20/2010 10:35 AM, Brian Redfern wrote:
> I would go with fedora core 12 and the planet ccrma rt kernel.
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Dave Seidel  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm getting a new laptop soon, and while I will preserve the Windows 7 that
>> comes with it, I will very quickly create second partition on which to
>> install Linux as my main OS in a dual-boot setup.
>>
>> I would like to use one of the distros that is intended for multimedia work
>> and has features like a kernel tuned for realtime, low-latency sound output.
>>   What you you recommend?  My leading candidate at the moment is puredyne,
>> but I would love to hear about your experiences with this or other
>> specialized distros.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>>
>> --
>> http://mysterybear.net
>> http://twitter.com/DaveSeidel
>> http://www.myspace.com/DaveSeidel



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Date2010-02-20 16:03
FromPeiman Khosravi
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Linux distro for music/media
I'm considering to set up a linux system. What are the advantages of  
fedora over, say, Ubuntu studio?

Best,

Peiman

On 20 Feb 2010, at 15:45, Dave Seidel wrote:

> Thanks, Brian, that's definitely an option.  Also kind of cool in  
> that I've started using Fedora 12 at work, so I'm learning a lot  
> about it.
>
> - Dave
>
> On 2/20/2010 10:35 AM, Brian Redfern wrote:
>> I would go with fedora core 12 and the planet ccrma rt kernel.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Dave  
>> Seidel  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm getting a new laptop soon, and while I will preserve the  
>>> Windows 7 that
>>> comes with it, I will very quickly create second partition on  
>>> which to
>>> install Linux as my main OS in a dual-boot setup.
>>>
>>> I would like to use one of the distros that is intended for  
>>> multimedia work
>>> and has features like a kernel tuned for realtime, low-latency  
>>> sound output.
>>>  What you you recommend?  My leading candidate at the moment is  
>>> puredyne,
>>> but I would love to hear about your experiences with this or other
>>> specialized distros.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://mysterybear.net
>>> http://twitter.com/DaveSeidel
>>> http://www.myspace.com/DaveSeidel
>
>
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Date2010-02-20 16:19
FromBrian Redfern
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Linux distro for music/media
Fedora and CCRMA are very stable and reliable. Red Hat employs the
developer who create the RT kernel patch. I've been using Indamixx
which is based on 64Studio and Ubuntu but I've found that Ubuntu
Studio and 64Studio are not as stable or mature as Fedora/CCRMA so I'm
in the process of switching over my machines. I've personally found
Fedora to be more "hackable" than Ubuntu and found that so far Ubuntu
Studio doesn't really work for me, the RT kernel for it seems to have
issues with Ubuntu while under Fedora the RT kernel works great and
Fedora itself comes with the latest Ardour with all the "bells and
whistles" such as lv2 working "out of the box."

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Peiman Khosravi
 wrote:
> I'm considering to set up a linux system. What are the advantages of fedora
> over, say, Ubuntu studio?
>
> Best,
>
> Peiman
>
> On 20 Feb 2010, at 15:45, Dave Seidel wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Brian, that's definitely an option.  Also kind of cool in that
>> I've started using Fedora 12 at work, so I'm learning a lot about it.
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>> On 2/20/2010 10:35 AM, Brian Redfern wrote:
>>>
>>> I would go with fedora core 12 and the planet ccrma rt kernel.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Dave Seidel
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm getting a new laptop soon, and while I will preserve the Windows 7
>>>> that
>>>> comes with it, I will very quickly create second partition on which to
>>>> install Linux as my main OS in a dual-boot setup.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to use one of the distros that is intended for multimedia
>>>> work
>>>> and has features like a kernel tuned for realtime, low-latency sound
>>>> output.
>>>>  What you you recommend?  My leading candidate at the moment is
>>>> puredyne,
>>>> but I would love to hear about your experiences with this or other
>>>> specialized distros.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://mysterybear.net
>>>> http://twitter.com/DaveSeidel
>>>> http://www.myspace.com/DaveSeidel
>>
>>
>>
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Date2010-02-20 16:56
FromBrian Redfern
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Linux distro for music/media
Although Ubuntu looks like they're coming out with their own RT solution soon:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/Hardy

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Brian Redfern  wrote:
> Fedora and CCRMA are very stable and reliable. Red Hat employs the
> developer who create the RT kernel patch. I've been using Indamixx
> which is based on 64Studio and Ubuntu but I've found that Ubuntu
> Studio and 64Studio are not as stable or mature as Fedora/CCRMA so I'm
> in the process of switching over my machines. I've personally found
> Fedora to be more "hackable" than Ubuntu and found that so far Ubuntu
> Studio doesn't really work for me, the RT kernel for it seems to have
> issues with Ubuntu while under Fedora the RT kernel works great and
> Fedora itself comes with the latest Ardour with all the "bells and
> whistles" such as lv2 working "out of the box."
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Peiman Khosravi
>  wrote:
>> I'm considering to set up a linux system. What are the advantages of fedora
>> over, say, Ubuntu studio?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Peiman
>>
>> On 20 Feb 2010, at 15:45, Dave Seidel wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Brian, that's definitely an option.  Also kind of cool in that
>>> I've started using Fedora 12 at work, so I'm learning a lot about it.
>>>
>>> - Dave
>>>
>>> On 2/20/2010 10:35 AM, Brian Redfern wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would go with fedora core 12 and the planet ccrma rt kernel.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Dave Seidel
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm getting a new laptop soon, and while I will preserve the Windows 7
>>>>> that
>>>>> comes with it, I will very quickly create second partition on which to
>>>>> install Linux as my main OS in a dual-boot setup.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to use one of the distros that is intended for multimedia
>>>>> work
>>>>> and has features like a kernel tuned for realtime, low-latency sound
>>>>> output.
>>>>>  What you you recommend?  My leading candidate at the moment is
>>>>> puredyne,
>>>>> but I would love to hear about your experiences with this or other
>>>>> specialized distros.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://mysterybear.net
>>>>> http://twitter.com/DaveSeidel
>>>>> http://www.myspace.com/DaveSeidel
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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Date2010-02-20 17:03
FromAndres Cabrera
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Linux distro for music/media
Hi,

The last change to that page was in 2008....

So it seems the project is somewhat stalled. Although there is already
an rt kernel in the Ubuntu repositories it's not as good as the CCRMA
kernels or a self built kernel.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Brian Redfern  wrote:
> Although Ubuntu looks like they're coming out with their own RT solution soon:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/Hardy
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Brian Redfern  wrote:
>> Fedora and CCRMA are very stable and reliable. Red Hat employs the
>> developer who create the RT kernel patch. I've been using Indamixx
>> which is based on 64Studio and Ubuntu but I've found that Ubuntu
>> Studio and 64Studio are not as stable or mature as Fedora/CCRMA so I'm
>> in the process of switching over my machines. I've personally found
>> Fedora to be more "hackable" than Ubuntu and found that so far Ubuntu
>> Studio doesn't really work for me, the RT kernel for it seems to have
>> issues with Ubuntu while under Fedora the RT kernel works great and
>> Fedora itself comes with the latest Ardour with all the "bells and
>> whistles" such as lv2 working "out of the box."
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Peiman Khosravi
>>  wrote:
>>> I'm considering to set up a linux system. What are the advantages of fedora
>>> over, say, Ubuntu studio?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Peiman
>>>
>>> On 20 Feb 2010, at 15:45, Dave Seidel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Brian, that's definitely an option.  Also kind of cool in that
>>>> I've started using Fedora 12 at work, so I'm learning a lot about it.
>>>>
>>>> - Dave
>>>>
>>>> On 2/20/2010 10:35 AM, Brian Redfern wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would go with fedora core 12 and the planet ccrma rt kernel.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Dave Seidel
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm getting a new laptop soon, and while I will preserve the Windows 7
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> comes with it, I will very quickly create second partition on which to
>>>>>> install Linux as my main OS in a dual-boot setup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to use one of the distros that is intended for multimedia
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> and has features like a kernel tuned for realtime, low-latency sound
>>>>>> output.
>>>>>>  What you you recommend?  My leading candidate at the moment is
>>>>>> puredyne,
>>>>>> but I would love to hear about your experiences with this or other
>>>>>> specialized distros.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> http://mysterybear.net
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/DaveSeidel
>>>>>> http://www.myspace.com/DaveSeidel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Date2010-02-20 17:06
FromBrian Redfern
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Linux distro for music/media
Yeah that's the issue I had with Ubuntu, I didn't check the date on
that page. Fedora is a lot more stable. I found Indamixx is low
latency, but its a commercial distro that costs money, while Fedora
and CCRMA do just as well and are free. The only reason I may have to
keep Indamixx on one machine is that it has a touch screen and so far
from the boards I've looked at Fedora may have some issues with touch
screen tablet pcs.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The last change to that page was in 2008....
>
> So it seems the project is somewhat stalled. Although there is already
> an rt kernel in the Ubuntu repositories it's not as good as the CCRMA
> kernels or a self built kernel.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Brian Redfern  wrote:
>> Although Ubuntu looks like they're coming out with their own RT solution soon:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/Hardy
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Brian Redfern  wrote:
>>> Fedora and CCRMA are very stable and reliable. Red Hat employs the
>>> developer who create the RT kernel patch. I've been using Indamixx
>>> which is based on 64Studio and Ubuntu but I've found that Ubuntu
>>> Studio and 64Studio are not as stable or mature as Fedora/CCRMA so I'm
>>> in the process of switching over my machines. I've personally found
>>> Fedora to be more "hackable" than Ubuntu and found that so far Ubuntu
>>> Studio doesn't really work for me, the RT kernel for it seems to have
>>> issues with Ubuntu while under Fedora the RT kernel works great and
>>> Fedora itself comes with the latest Ardour with all the "bells and
>>> whistles" such as lv2 working "out of the box."
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Peiman Khosravi
>>>  wrote:
>>>> I'm considering to set up a linux system. What are the advantages of fedora
>>>> over, say, Ubuntu studio?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Peiman
>>>>
>>>> On 20 Feb 2010, at 15:45, Dave Seidel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Brian, that's definitely an option.  Also kind of cool in that
>>>>> I've started using Fedora 12 at work, so I'm learning a lot about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/20/2010 10:35 AM, Brian Redfern wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would go with fedora core 12 and the planet ccrma rt kernel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Dave Seidel
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm getting a new laptop soon, and while I will preserve the Windows 7
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> comes with it, I will very quickly create second partition on which to
>>>>>>> install Linux as my main OS in a dual-boot setup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to use one of the distros that is intended for multimedia
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> and has features like a kernel tuned for realtime, low-latency sound
>>>>>>> output.
>>>>>>>  What you you recommend?  My leading candidate at the moment is
>>>>>>> puredyne,
>>>>>>> but I would love to hear about your experiences with this or other
>>>>>>> specialized distros.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> http://mysterybear.net
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/DaveSeidel
>>>>>>> http://www.myspace.com/DaveSeidel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>
>
> --
>
>
> Andrés
>
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Date2010-02-20 17:08
FromDave Phillips
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Linux distro for music/media
Brian Redfern wrote:
> Fedora and CCRMA are very stable and reliable. Red Hat employs the
> developer who create the RT kernel patch. I've been using Indamixx
> which is based on 64Studio and Ubuntu but I've found that Ubuntu
> Studio and 64Studio are not as stable or mature as Fedora/CCRMA so I'm
> in the process of switching over my machines. I've personally found
> Fedora to be more "hackable" than Ubuntu and found that so far Ubuntu
> Studio doesn't really work for me, the RT kernel for it seems to have
> issues with Ubuntu while under Fedora the RT kernel works great and
> Fedora itself comes with the latest Ardour with all the "bells and
> whistles" such as lv2 working "out of the box."
>   

I've been using the Debian-based 64 Studio 2.1 for a few years as my 
primary system (64-bit). It is a remarkably stable system, comparable to 
Planet C (which I used for years before trying 64 Studio). Alas, it's 
also rather old, and I agree that the beta versions of (now 
Ubuntu-based) 64 Studio 3.0 are likely to be not so stable. I've tested 
the 2nd beta but got diverted by other work.

I'm also using two Ubuntu systems, 9.04 Jaunty and 10.4 Karmic. Both are 
used as test platforms for new software. Configuring Jaunty for 
low-latency rt was a nightmare, but configuring Karmic was a comparative 
breeze. However, both require some manual tweaking, as does Planet C, IIRC.

Both Jaunty and Karmic have proven to be good systems for development 
here, if that's what you mean by hackable. I prefer to compile my music 
and sound software, I've had few or no troubles building Ardour, 
LinuxSampler, Csound, and so forth.

The boxes here include two machines based on AMD64 CPUs and a notebook 
with an AMD Turion. Audio hardware includes M-Audio Delta 66 interfaces, 
an Edirol UA-25 USB audio/MIDI interface, and a SoundBlaster Live with 
external MIDI hardware. All the audio hardware is fully supported by 
ALSA, the Linux kernel sound system.

HTH,

dp



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Date2010-02-20 18:54
FromPeiman Khosravi
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Linux distro for music/media
Thanks everyone for the replies. I reckon I'll give fedora a shot then  
(I actually have ubuntu installed on a different computer but have not  
really had time to explore it) but it was a total nightmare to install  
it :-)

As I use more and more of ardour and csound I should be able to  
eventually move to linux without missing my os x too much.

Thanks,

Peiman

On 20 Feb 2010, at 17:08, Dave Phillips wrote:

> Brian Redfern wrote:
>> Fedora and CCRMA are very stable and reliable. Red Hat employs the
>> developer who create the RT kernel patch. I've been using Indamixx
>> which is based on 64Studio and Ubuntu but I've found that Ubuntu
>> Studio and 64Studio are not as stable or mature as Fedora/CCRMA so  
>> I'm
>> in the process of switching over my machines. I've personally found
>> Fedora to be more "hackable" than Ubuntu and found that so far Ubuntu
>> Studio doesn't really work for me, the RT kernel for it seems to have
>> issues with Ubuntu while under Fedora the RT kernel works great and
>> Fedora itself comes with the latest Ardour with all the "bells and
>> whistles" such as lv2 working "out of the box."
>>
>
> I've been using the Debian-based 64 Studio 2.1 for a few years as my  
> primary system (64-bit). It is a remarkably stable system,  
> comparable to Planet C (which I used for years before trying 64  
> Studio). Alas, it's also rather old, and I agree that the beta  
> versions of (now Ubuntu-based) 64 Studio 3.0 are likely to be not so  
> stable. I've tested the 2nd beta but got diverted by other work.
>
> I'm also using two Ubuntu systems, 9.04 Jaunty and 10.4 Karmic. Both  
> are used as test platforms for new software. Configuring Jaunty for  
> low-latency rt was a nightmare, but configuring Karmic was a  
> comparative breeze. However, both require some manual tweaking, as  
> does Planet C, IIRC.
>
> Both Jaunty and Karmic have proven to be good systems for  
> development here, if that's what you mean by hackable. I prefer to  
> compile my music and sound software, I've had few or no troubles  
> building Ardour, LinuxSampler, Csound, and so forth.
>
> The boxes here include two machines based on AMD64 CPUs and a  
> notebook with an AMD Turion. Audio hardware includes M-Audio Delta  
> 66 interfaces, an Edirol UA-25 USB audio/MIDI interface, and a  
> SoundBlaster Live with external MIDI hardware. All the audio  
> hardware is fully supported by ALSA, the Linux kernel sound system.
>
> HTH,
>
> dp
>
>
>
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Date2010-02-21 01:05
FromDave Seidel
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Linux distro for music/media
Echoing Peiman, thanks everyone!  I'm still interested in puredyne, but 
now I'm seriously considering Fedora 12 with Planet CCRMA.  It's 
especially attractive since I am now using Fedora 12 full-time at work.

- Dave

On 2/20/2010 1:54 PM, Peiman Khosravi wrote:
> Thanks everyone for the replies. I reckon I'll give fedora a shot then
> (I actually have ubuntu installed on a different computer but have not
> really had time to explore it) but it was a total nightmare to install
> it :-)
>
> As I use more and more of ardour and csound I should be able to
> eventually move to linux without missing my os x too much.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peiman



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Date2010-02-22 02:47
FromTim Mortimer
Subject[Csnd] Re: Linux distro for music/media
Hi Everyone

I'm thinking of going down a similar route.

After a fair absence from all this (mixture of "real life" & attempting to
study & learn more about classical music armed with the internet & a copy of
Garritan...), I recently tried installing csound 5.11 on my windows SP1 /
cubase SX2 machine, but ran into conflicts.

I haven't raised it because the issue was basically if i installed csound,
cubase SX2 failed to run at all, & that's not really the csound's
community's problem as such, & my windows set up is otherwise functional &
useful despite being dated, has lots of plugins etc etc - so end of story. -
no more windows csound for me. (as i'll never buy another windows PC..) -
but if i leave the current windows set up alone, it's pretty useful to me
for another few years yet i imagine.

but i'm pretty keen to get back into doing some csound oriented stuff & so
spending a couple of hundred bucks on an old desktop machine to run a linux
distro (now that i am living somewhere where i can get ADSL2 access... my
previous "big issue" with trying to go Linux) probably seems like the way
forward...

My main concern however is useability & ease of set up in the first instance
- should i also try the Fedora / CCRMA mixture?

Running csound & ardour would also be my primary objectives - would probably
still do most of my DAW "mixdowns" & final arrangements on the old windows /
cubase setup (has good mastering effects etc etc..) - Oh, & python of course
for complex / repetitious .orc / .sco creation... (but that should be a
given really...)

Also some of you may recall i had various issues exploring resynthesis types
(esp loris & ATS) on windows at various times - so hopefully Linux would
also open up a lot of this area to me more sucessfully as well.

So just primarily fishing for a push & any advice or thoughts before going
out & blowing some cash on some hardware i guess. 

I still am yet to compile or manually install anything on Linux. Although I
am using ubuntu on a similar bargain basement PC to do all my net stuff
these days - but synaptic package manager handles all installation issues
there (hooray!)

also assumedly if i like the linux box enough & get a high grade soundcard
for it eventually, it's likely to be a USB / firewire rather than PCI slot
card these days? 

Will i be able to get low latency happening ok in the short term off a
standard motherboard soundcard?

My main realtime "activity" is using FLTK interfaces to set & write custom
PVOC mask settings out to txt file, for loading them back into a separate
rendering orc. Is there a better front end for doing this kind of real time
"parameter tweaking" these days - & on Linux? - again ease of setup & use is
my main criteria, as I've been nearly 2 years out of the loop here

thanks guys & gals. Yet another attempt at making a "csound comeback"....

Tim

Date2010-02-27 21:43
FromPeiman Khosravi
Subject[Csnd] csound64 and planet ccrma (was Linux distro for music/media)
Hello,

Following this thread I went ahead and installed fedora and planet ccrma. All is going rather smoothly I'm just not sure, how would I install csound64? I suppose typing "yum install csound csound-devel" installs csound float version not double?

Thanks in advance

Peiman


On 20 Feb 2010, at 17:06, Brian Redfern wrote:

Yeah that's the issue I had with Ubuntu, I didn't check the date on
that page. Fedora is a lot more stable. I found Indamixx is low
latency, but its a commercial distro that costs money, while Fedora
and CCRMA do just as well and are free. The only reason I may have to
keep Indamixx on one machine is that it has a touch screen and so far
from the boards I've looked at Fedora may have some issues with touch
screen tablet pcs.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

The last change to that page was in 2008....

So it seems the project is somewhat stalled. Although there is already
an rt kernel in the Ubuntu repositories it's not as good as the CCRMA
kernels or a self built kernel.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Brian Redfern <brianwredfern@gmail.com> wrote:
Although Ubuntu looks like they're coming out with their own RT solution soon:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/Hardy

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Brian Redfern <brianwredfern@gmail.com> wrote:
Fedora and CCRMA are very stable and reliable. Red Hat employs the
developer who create the RT kernel patch. I've been using Indamixx
which is based on 64Studio and Ubuntu but I've found that Ubuntu
Studio and 64Studio are not as stable or mature as Fedora/CCRMA so I'm
in the process of switching over my machines. I've personally found
Fedora to be more "hackable" than Ubuntu and found that so far Ubuntu
Studio doesn't really work for me, the RT kernel for it seems to have
issues with Ubuntu while under Fedora the RT kernel works great and
Fedora itself comes with the latest Ardour with all the "bells and
whistles" such as lv2 working "out of the box."

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Peiman Khosravi
<peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm considering to set up a linux system. What are the advantages of fedora
over, say, Ubuntu studio?

Best,

Peiman

On 20 Feb 2010, at 15:45, Dave Seidel wrote:

Thanks, Brian, that's definitely an option.  Also kind of cool in that
I've started using Fedora 12 at work, so I'm learning a lot about it.

- Dave

On 2/20/2010 10:35 AM, Brian Redfern wrote:

I would go with fedora core 12 and the planet ccrma rt kernel.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Dave Seidel<dave@superluminal.com>
 wrote:

Hi all,

I'm getting a new laptop soon, and while I will preserve the Windows 7
that
comes with it, I will very quickly create second partition on which to
install Linux as my main OS in a dual-boot setup.

I would like to use one of the distros that is intended for multimedia
work
and has features like a kernel tuned for realtime, low-latency sound
output.
 What you you recommend?  My leading candidate at the moment is
puredyne,
but I would love to hear about your experiences with this or other
specialized distros.

Thanks,
Dave

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Date2010-02-28 09:12
FromAndres Cabrera
Subject[Csnd] Re: csound64 and planet ccrma (was Linux distro for music/media)
Hi,

I haven't looked, but maybe the package available for ccrma is 32 bit
only? Can you see any other csound in synaptic (or the package
manager?). In debian it's the other way around, the package is 64-bit
only.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Peiman Khosravi
 wrote:
> Hello,
> Following this thread I went ahead and installed fedora and planet ccrma.
> All is going rather smoothly I'm just not sure, how would I install
> csound64? I suppose typing "yum install csound csound-devel" installs csound
> float version not double?
> Thanks in advance
> Peiman
>
>
> On 20 Feb 2010, at 17:06, Brian Redfern wrote:
>
> Yeah that's the issue I had with Ubuntu, I didn't check the date on
> that page. Fedora is a lot more stable. I found Indamixx is low
> latency, but its a commercial distro that costs money, while Fedora
> and CCRMA do just as well and are free. The only reason I may have to
> keep Indamixx on one machine is that it has a touch screen and so far
> from the boards I've looked at Fedora may have some issues with touch
> screen tablet pcs.
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Andres Cabrera 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> The last change to that page was in 2008....
>
> So it seems the project is somewhat stalled. Although there is already
>
> an rt kernel in the Ubuntu repositories it's not as good as the CCRMA
>
> kernels or a self built kernel.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrés
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Brian Redfern 
> wrote:
>
> Although Ubuntu looks like they're coming out with their own RT solution
> soon:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/Hardy
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Brian Redfern 
> wrote:
>
> Fedora and CCRMA are very stable and reliable. Red Hat employs the
>
> developer who create the RT kernel patch. I've been using Indamixx
>
> which is based on 64Studio and Ubuntu but I've found that Ubuntu
>
> Studio and 64Studio are not as stable or mature as Fedora/CCRMA so I'm
>
> in the process of switching over my machines. I've personally found
>
> Fedora to be more "hackable" than Ubuntu and found that so far Ubuntu
>
> Studio doesn't really work for me, the RT kernel for it seems to have
>
> issues with Ubuntu while under Fedora the RT kernel works great and
>
> Fedora itself comes with the latest Ardour with all the "bells and
>
> whistles" such as lv2 working "out of the box."
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Peiman Khosravi
>
>  wrote:
>
> I'm considering to set up a linux system. What are the advantages of fedora
>
> over, say, Ubuntu studio?
>
> Best,
>
> Peiman
>
> On 20 Feb 2010, at 15:45, Dave Seidel wrote:
>
> Thanks, Brian, that's definitely an option.  Also kind of cool in that
>
> I've started using Fedora 12 at work, so I'm learning a lot about it.
>
> - Dave
>
> On 2/20/2010 10:35 AM, Brian Redfern wrote:
>
> I would go with fedora core 12 and the planet ccrma rt kernel.
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Dave Seidel
>
>  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm getting a new laptop soon, and while I will preserve the Windows 7
>
> that
>
> comes with it, I will very quickly create second partition on which to
>
> install Linux as my main OS in a dual-boot setup.
>
> I would like to use one of the distros that is intended for multimedia
>
> work
>
> and has features like a kernel tuned for realtime, low-latency sound
>
> output.
>
>  What you you recommend?  My leading candidate at the moment is
>
> puredyne,
>
> but I would love to hear about your experiences with this or other
>
> specialized distros.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
>
> --
>
> http://mysterybear.net
>
> http://twitter.com/DaveSeidel
>
> http://www.myspace.com/DaveSeidel
>
>
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Date2010-02-28 09:21
FromPeiman Khosravi
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: csound64 and planet ccrma (was Linux distro for music/media)
Thanks for the reply Andrés. No I can't see another package :-(

Well that's no good! I'm gonna have to either built it myself (rather  
not have to go there) or think of a different distribution. I remember  
that on Ubuntu studio they had csound double but fedora is running  
much more smoothly on this machine than ubuntu was. I'll write a post  
to planet ccrma mailing list just in case.

Thanks

Peiman

On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:12, Andres Cabrera wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I haven't looked, but maybe the package available for ccrma is 32 bit
> only? Can you see any other csound in synaptic (or the package
> manager?). In debian it's the other way around, the package is 64-bit
> only.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Peiman Khosravi
>  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Following this thread I went ahead and installed fedora and planet  
>> ccrma.
>> All is going rather smoothly I'm just not sure, how would I install
>> csound64? I suppose typing "yum install csound csound-devel"  
>> installs csound
>> float version not double?
>> Thanks in advance
>> Peiman
>>
>>
>> On 20 Feb 2010, at 17:06, Brian Redfern wrote:
>>
>> Yeah that's the issue I had with Ubuntu, I didn't check the date on
>> that page. Fedora is a lot more stable. I found Indamixx is low
>> latency, but its a commercial distro that costs money, while Fedora
>> and CCRMA do just as well and are free. The only reason I may have to
>> keep Indamixx on one machine is that it has a touch screen and so far
>> from the boards I've looked at Fedora may have some issues with touch
>> screen tablet pcs.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Andres Cabrera > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The last change to that page was in 2008....
>>
>> So it seems the project is somewhat stalled. Although there is  
>> already
>>
>> an rt kernel in the Ubuntu repositories it's not as good as the CCRMA
>>
>> kernels or a self built kernel.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Andrés
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Brian Redfern > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Although Ubuntu looks like they're coming out with their own RT  
>> solution
>> soon:
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/Hardy
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Brian Redfern > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Fedora and CCRMA are very stable and reliable. Red Hat employs the
>>
>> developer who create the RT kernel patch. I've been using Indamixx
>>
>> which is based on 64Studio and Ubuntu but I've found that Ubuntu
>>
>> Studio and 64Studio are not as stable or mature as Fedora/CCRMA so  
>> I'm
>>
>> in the process of switching over my machines. I've personally found
>>
>> Fedora to be more "hackable" than Ubuntu and found that so far Ubuntu
>>
>> Studio doesn't really work for me, the RT kernel for it seems to have
>>
>> issues with Ubuntu while under Fedora the RT kernel works great and
>>
>> Fedora itself comes with the latest Ardour with all the "bells and
>>
>> whistles" such as lv2 working "out of the box."
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Peiman Khosravi
>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I'm considering to set up a linux system. What are the advantages  
>> of fedora
>>
>> over, say, Ubuntu studio?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Peiman
>>
>> On 20 Feb 2010, at 15:45, Dave Seidel wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Brian, that's definitely an option.  Also kind of cool in  
>> that
>>
>> I've started using Fedora 12 at work, so I'm learning a lot about it.
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>> On 2/20/2010 10:35 AM, Brian Redfern wrote:
>>
>> I would go with fedora core 12 and the planet ccrma rt kernel.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Dave Seidel
>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm getting a new laptop soon, and while I will preserve the  
>> Windows 7
>>
>> that
>>
>> comes with it, I will very quickly create second partition on which  
>> to
>>
>> install Linux as my main OS in a dual-boot setup.
>>
>> I would like to use one of the distros that is intended for  
>> multimedia
>>
>> work
>>
>> and has features like a kernel tuned for realtime, low-latency sound
>>
>> output.
>>
>>  What you you recommend?  My leading candidate at the moment is
>>
>> puredyne,
>>
>> but I would love to hear about your experiences with this or other
>>
>> specialized distros.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> --
>>
>> http://mysterybear.net
>>
>> http://twitter.com/DaveSeidel
>>
>> http://www.myspace.com/DaveSeidel
>>
>>
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Date2010-02-28 09:25
FromBrian Redfern
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: csound64 and planet ccrma (was Linux distro for music/media)

Pd and chuck are in there, I think the csound is from fedora, I always build mine from source, but scons makes it easy to build csound.

On Feb 28, 2010 1:22 AM, "Peiman Khosravi" <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for the reply Andrés. No I can't see another package :-(

Well that's no good! I'm gonna have to either built it myself (rather not have to go there) or think of a different distribution. I remember that on Ubuntu studio they had csound double but fedora is running much more smoothly on this machine than ubuntu was. I'll write a post to planet ccrma mailing list just in case.

Thanks

Peiman



On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:12, Andres Cabrera wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I haven't looked, but maybe the package...


Date2010-02-28 10:09
FromVictor Lazzarini
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: csound64 and planet ccrma (was Linux distro for music/media)
But what about the official Fedora package?
On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:21, Peiman Khosravi wrote:

> Thanks for the reply Andrés. No I can't see another package :-(
>
> Well that's no good! I'm gonna have to either built it myself  
> (rather not have to go there) or think of a different distribution.  
> I remember that on Ubuntu studio they had csound double but fedora  
> is running much more smoothly on this machine than ubuntu was. I'll  
> write a post to planet ccrma mailing list just in case.
>
> Thanks
>
> Peiman
>
> On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:12, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I haven't looked, but maybe the package available for ccrma is 32 bit
>> only? Can you see any other csound in synaptic (or the package
>> manager?). In debian it's the other way around, the package is 64-bit
>> only.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrés
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Peiman Khosravi
>>  wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> Following this thread I went ahead and installed fedora and planet  
>>> ccrma.
>>> All is going rather smoothly I'm just not sure, how would I install
>>> csound64? I suppose typing "yum install csound csound-devel"  
>>> installs csound
>>> float version not double?
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Peiman
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20 Feb 2010, at 17:06, Brian Redfern wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah that's the issue I had with Ubuntu, I didn't check the date on
>>> that page. Fedora is a lot more stable. I found Indamixx is low
>>> latency, but its a commercial distro that costs money, while Fedora
>>> and CCRMA do just as well and are free. The only reason I may have  
>>> to
>>> keep Indamixx on one machine is that it has a touch screen and so  
>>> far
>>> from the boards I've looked at Fedora may have some issues with  
>>> touch
>>> screen tablet pcs.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Andres Cabrera >> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The last change to that page was in 2008....
>>>
>>> So it seems the project is somewhat stalled. Although there is  
>>> already
>>>
>>> an rt kernel in the Ubuntu repositories it's not as good as the  
>>> CCRMA
>>>
>>> kernels or a self built kernel.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Brian Redfern >> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Although Ubuntu looks like they're coming out with their own RT  
>>> solution
>>> soon:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/Hardy
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Brian Redfern >> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Fedora and CCRMA are very stable and reliable. Red Hat employs the
>>>
>>> developer who create the RT kernel patch. I've been using Indamixx
>>>
>>> which is based on 64Studio and Ubuntu but I've found that Ubuntu
>>>
>>> Studio and 64Studio are not as stable or mature as Fedora/CCRMA so  
>>> I'm
>>>
>>> in the process of switching over my machines. I've personally found
>>>
>>> Fedora to be more "hackable" than Ubuntu and found that so far  
>>> Ubuntu
>>>
>>> Studio doesn't really work for me, the RT kernel for it seems to  
>>> have
>>>
>>> issues with Ubuntu while under Fedora the RT kernel works great and
>>>
>>> Fedora itself comes with the latest Ardour with all the "bells and
>>>
>>> whistles" such as lv2 working "out of the box."
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Peiman Khosravi
>>>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm considering to set up a linux system. What are the advantages  
>>> of fedora
>>>
>>> over, say, Ubuntu studio?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Peiman
>>>
>>> On 20 Feb 2010, at 15:45, Dave Seidel wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Brian, that's definitely an option.  Also kind of cool in  
>>> that
>>>
>>> I've started using Fedora 12 at work, so I'm learning a lot about  
>>> it.
>>>
>>> - Dave
>>>
>>> On 2/20/2010 10:35 AM, Brian Redfern wrote:
>>>
>>> I would go with fedora core 12 and the planet ccrma rt kernel.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Dave Seidel
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm getting a new laptop soon, and while I will preserve the  
>>> Windows 7
>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>> comes with it, I will very quickly create second partition on  
>>> which to
>>>
>>> install Linux as my main OS in a dual-boot setup.
>>>
>>> I would like to use one of the distros that is intended for  
>>> multimedia
>>>
>>> work
>>>
>>> and has features like a kernel tuned for realtime, low-latency sound
>>>
>>> output.
>>>
>>> What you you recommend?  My leading candidate at the moment is
>>>
>>> puredyne,
>>>
>>> but I would love to hear about your experiences with this or other
>>>
>>> specialized distros.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> http://mysterybear.net
>>>
>>> http://twitter.com/DaveSeidel
>>>
>>> http://www.myspace.com/DaveSeidel
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Date2010-02-28 10:17
FromPeiman Khosravi
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound64 and planet ccrma (was Linux distro for music/media)
Yes that would do. But I don't know if it's in the repository.

Thanks

Peiman

On 28 Feb 2010, at 10:09, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

> But what about the official Fedora package?
> On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:21, Peiman Khosravi wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the reply Andrés. No I can't see another package :-(
>>
>> Well that's no good! I'm gonna have to either built it myself  
>> (rather not have to go there) or think of a different distribution.  
>> I remember that on Ubuntu studio they had csound double but fedora  
>> is running much more smoothly on this machine than ubuntu was. I'll  
>> write a post to planet ccrma mailing list just in case.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Peiman
>>
>> On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:12, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I haven't looked, but maybe the package available for ccrma is 32  
>>> bit
>>> only? Can you see any other csound in synaptic (or the package
>>> manager?). In debian it's the other way around, the package is 64- 
>>> bit
>>> only.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Peiman Khosravi
>>>  wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> Following this thread I went ahead and installed fedora and  
>>>> planet ccrma.
>>>> All is going rather smoothly I'm just not sure, how would I install
>>>> csound64? I suppose typing "yum install csound csound-devel"  
>>>> installs csound
>>>> float version not double?
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>> Peiman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20 Feb 2010, at 17:06, Brian Redfern wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah that's the issue I had with Ubuntu, I didn't check the date on
>>>> that page. Fedora is a lot more stable. I found Indamixx is low
>>>> latency, but its a commercial distro that costs money, while Fedora
>>>> and CCRMA do just as well and are free. The only reason I may  
>>>> have to
>>>> keep Indamixx on one machine is that it has a touch screen and so  
>>>> far
>>>> from the boards I've looked at Fedora may have some issues with  
>>>> touch
>>>> screen tablet pcs.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Andres Cabrera >>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The last change to that page was in 2008....
>>>>
>>>> So it seems the project is somewhat stalled. Although there is  
>>>> already
>>>>
>>>> an rt kernel in the Ubuntu repositories it's not as good as the  
>>>> CCRMA
>>>>
>>>> kernels or a self built kernel.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Brian Redfern >>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Although Ubuntu looks like they're coming out with their own RT  
>>>> solution
>>>> soon:
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/Hardy
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Brian Redfern >>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Fedora and CCRMA are very stable and reliable. Red Hat employs the
>>>>
>>>> developer who create the RT kernel patch. I've been using Indamixx
>>>>
>>>> which is based on 64Studio and Ubuntu but I've found that Ubuntu
>>>>
>>>> Studio and 64Studio are not as stable or mature as Fedora/CCRMA  
>>>> so I'm
>>>>
>>>> in the process of switching over my machines. I've personally found
>>>>
>>>> Fedora to be more "hackable" than Ubuntu and found that so far  
>>>> Ubuntu
>>>>
>>>> Studio doesn't really work for me, the RT kernel for it seems to  
>>>> have
>>>>
>>>> issues with Ubuntu while under Fedora the RT kernel works great and
>>>>
>>>> Fedora itself comes with the latest Ardour with all the "bells and
>>>>
>>>> whistles" such as lv2 working "out of the box."
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Peiman Khosravi
>>>>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm considering to set up a linux system. What are the advantages  
>>>> of fedora
>>>>
>>>> over, say, Ubuntu studio?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Peiman
>>>>
>>>> On 20 Feb 2010, at 15:45, Dave Seidel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Brian, that's definitely an option.  Also kind of cool in  
>>>> that
>>>>
>>>> I've started using Fedora 12 at work, so I'm learning a lot about  
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> - Dave
>>>>
>>>> On 2/20/2010 10:35 AM, Brian Redfern wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would go with fedora core 12 and the planet ccrma rt kernel.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Dave Seidel
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm getting a new laptop soon, and while I will preserve the  
>>>> Windows 7
>>>>
>>>> that
>>>>
>>>> comes with it, I will very quickly create second partition on  
>>>> which to
>>>>
>>>> install Linux as my main OS in a dual-boot setup.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to use one of the distros that is intended for  
>>>> multimedia
>>>>
>>>> work
>>>>
>>>> and has features like a kernel tuned for realtime, low-latency  
>>>> sound
>>>>
>>>> output.
>>>>
>>>> What you you recommend?  My leading candidate at the moment is
>>>>
>>>> puredyne,
>>>>
>>>> but I would love to hear about your experiences with this or other
>>>>
>>>> specialized distros.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
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Date2010-02-28 14:18
FromPeiman Khosravi
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound64 and planet ccrma (was Linux distro for music/media)
I've tried at least 4 times to move to linux and I'm always disappointed with the lack of coherent documentation and dead links when it comes to installing the additional packages such as ccrma. It's a shame really as there is so much potential. I shall stick with the mac for now as I don't have time to maintain a linux studio :-(

Thanks for your suggestions

Peiman

On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:25, Brian Redfern wrote:

Pd and chuck are in there, I think the csound is from fedora, I always build mine from source, but scons makes it easy to build csound.


On Feb 28, 2010 1:22 AM, "Peiman Khosravi" <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for the reply Andrés. No I can't see another package :-(

Well that's no good! I'm gonna have to either built it myself (rather not have to go there) or think of a different distribution. I remember that on Ubuntu studio they had csound double but fedora is running much more smoothly on this machine than ubuntu was. I'll write a post to planet ccrma mailing list just in case.

Thanks

Peiman



On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:12, Andres Cabrera wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I haven't looked, but maybe the package...




Date2010-07-06 19:40
FromBernardo Barros
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: csound64 and planet ccrma (was Linux distro for music/media)
Hey Peiman,

I tried Puredyne and everything worked out of the box, including my
laptop macbookpro wifi. Installing software was pretty easy because of
the debian/ubuntu package system.

Fedora + PlanetCCRMA are just the same. Yes, maybe the documentation
is not the best, but it's all there and the community can help a lot.
Most of the time the solution is pretty simple.

Cheers!
Bernardo

2010/2/28 Peiman Khosravi :
> I've tried at least 4 times to move to linux and I'm always disappointed
> with the lack of coherent documentation and dead links when it comes to
> installing the additional packages such as ccrma. It's a shame really as
> there is so much potential. I shall stick with the mac for now as I don't
> have time to maintain a linux studio :-(
> Thanks for your suggestions
> Peiman
>
> On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:25, Brian Redfern wrote:
>
> Pd and chuck are in there, I think the csound is from fedora, I always build
> mine from source, but scons makes it easy to build csound.
>
> On Feb 28, 2010 1:22 AM, "Peiman Khosravi"  wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply Andrés. No I can't see another package :-(
>
> Well that's no good! I'm gonna have to either built it myself (rather not
> have to go there) or think of a different distribution. I remember that on
> Ubuntu studio they had csound double but fedora is running much more
> smoothly on this machine than ubuntu was. I'll write a post to planet ccrma
> mailing list just in case.
>
> Thanks
>
> Peiman
>
> On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:12, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I haven't looked, but maybe the package...
>
>


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Date2010-07-06 19:43
FromBernardo Barros
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: csound64 and planet ccrma (was Linux distro for music/media)
We need a LinuxAudio Book!!!

(or... something like "LinuxAudio for Dummies" )



2010/7/6 Bernardo Barros :
> Hey Peiman,
>
> I tried Puredyne and everything worked out of the box, including my
> laptop macbookpro wifi. Installing software was pretty easy because of
> the debian/ubuntu package system.
>
> Fedora + PlanetCCRMA are just the same. Yes, maybe the documentation
> is not the best, but it's all there and the community can help a lot.
> Most of the time the solution is pretty simple.
>
> Cheers!
> Bernardo
>
> 2010/2/28 Peiman Khosravi :
>> I've tried at least 4 times to move to linux and I'm always disappointed
>> with the lack of coherent documentation and dead links when it comes to
>> installing the additional packages such as ccrma. It's a shame really as
>> there is so much potential. I shall stick with the mac for now as I don't
>> have time to maintain a linux studio :-(
>> Thanks for your suggestions
>> Peiman
>>
>> On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:25, Brian Redfern wrote:
>>
>> Pd and chuck are in there, I think the csound is from fedora, I always build
>> mine from source, but scons makes it easy to build csound.
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2010 1:22 AM, "Peiman Khosravi"  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the reply Andrés. No I can't see another package :-(
>>
>> Well that's no good! I'm gonna have to either built it myself (rather not
>> have to go there) or think of a different distribution. I remember that on
>> Ubuntu studio they had csound double but fedora is running much more
>> smoothly on this machine than ubuntu was. I'll write a post to planet ccrma
>> mailing list just in case.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Peiman
>>
>> On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:12, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I haven't looked, but maybe the package...
>>
>>
>


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Date2010-07-06 19:45
FromAndres Cabrera
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: csound64 and planet ccrma (was Linux distro for music/media)
It will probably be obsolete when you start writing chapter 2....

Cheers,
Andrés

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Bernardo Barros
 wrote:
> We need a LinuxAudio Book!!!
>
> (or... something like "LinuxAudio for Dummies" )
>
>
>
> 2010/7/6 Bernardo Barros :
>> Hey Peiman,
>>
>> I tried Puredyne and everything worked out of the box, including my
>> laptop macbookpro wifi. Installing software was pretty easy because of
>> the debian/ubuntu package system.
>>
>> Fedora + PlanetCCRMA are just the same. Yes, maybe the documentation
>> is not the best, but it's all there and the community can help a lot.
>> Most of the time the solution is pretty simple.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Bernardo
>>
>> 2010/2/28 Peiman Khosravi :
>>> I've tried at least 4 times to move to linux and I'm always disappointed
>>> with the lack of coherent documentation and dead links when it comes to
>>> installing the additional packages such as ccrma. It's a shame really as
>>> there is so much potential. I shall stick with the mac for now as I don't
>>> have time to maintain a linux studio :-(
>>> Thanks for your suggestions
>>> Peiman
>>>
>>> On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:25, Brian Redfern wrote:
>>>
>>> Pd and chuck are in there, I think the csound is from fedora, I always build
>>> mine from source, but scons makes it easy to build csound.
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2010 1:22 AM, "Peiman Khosravi"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply Andrés. No I can't see another package :-(
>>>
>>> Well that's no good! I'm gonna have to either built it myself (rather not
>>> have to go there) or think of a different distribution. I remember that on
>>> Ubuntu studio they had csound double but fedora is running much more
>>> smoothly on this machine than ubuntu was. I'll write a post to planet ccrma
>>> mailing list just in case.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Peiman
>>>
>>> On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:12, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I haven't looked, but maybe the package...
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Date2010-07-06 20:03
FromBernardo Barros
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: csound64 and planet ccrma (was Linux distro for music/media)
:-)

2010/7/6 Andres Cabrera :
> It will probably be obsolete when you start writing chapter 2....
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Bernardo Barros
>  wrote:
>> We need a LinuxAudio Book!!!
>>
>> (or... something like "LinuxAudio for Dummies" )
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/7/6 Bernardo Barros :
>>> Hey Peiman,
>>>
>>> I tried Puredyne and everything worked out of the box, including my
>>> laptop macbookpro wifi. Installing software was pretty easy because of
>>> the debian/ubuntu package system.
>>>
>>> Fedora + PlanetCCRMA are just the same. Yes, maybe the documentation
>>> is not the best, but it's all there and the community can help a lot.
>>> Most of the time the solution is pretty simple.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Bernardo
>>>
>>> 2010/2/28 Peiman Khosravi :
>>>> I've tried at least 4 times to move to linux and I'm always disappointed
>>>> with the lack of coherent documentation and dead links when it comes to
>>>> installing the additional packages such as ccrma. It's a shame really as
>>>> there is so much potential. I shall stick with the mac for now as I don't
>>>> have time to maintain a linux studio :-(
>>>> Thanks for your suggestions
>>>> Peiman
>>>>
>>>> On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:25, Brian Redfern wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Pd and chuck are in there, I think the csound is from fedora, I always build
>>>> mine from source, but scons makes it easy to build csound.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 28, 2010 1:22 AM, "Peiman Khosravi"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the reply Andrés. No I can't see another package :-(
>>>>
>>>> Well that's no good! I'm gonna have to either built it myself (rather not
>>>> have to go there) or think of a different distribution. I remember that on
>>>> Ubuntu studio they had csound double but fedora is running much more
>>>> smoothly on this machine than ubuntu was. I'll write a post to planet ccrma
>>>> mailing list just in case.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Peiman
>>>>
>>>> On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:12, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't looked, but maybe the package...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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